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Title: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Mince n Tatties on January 12, 2019, 09:22:01 PM
The Mail and Observer have jumped on board already with his "Go To Hell" remark..😯
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on January 12, 2019, 09:32:38 PM
What go to hell remark is this mince, have I missed something whilst I was in the bath.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: davew on January 12, 2019, 09:37:57 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 12, 2019, 09:32:38 PM
What go to hell remark is this mince, have I missed something whilst I was in the bath.
Have a look at my thread advice to the Khans, more info on there Woolly!
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Robbie on January 12, 2019, 09:42:41 PM
Whatever you think of our predicament, the third club to get promoted has about 30% chance of staying up. The cards were always staked against us.
The Khans have put a shedload of cash into FFC, we were forced buyers in the market over the summer.

The abuse is misplaced !
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: nose returns on January 12, 2019, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: Robbie on January 12, 2019, 09:42:41 PM
Whatever you think of our predicament, the third club to get promoted has about 30% chance of staying up. The cards were always staked against us.
The Khans have put a shedload of cash into FFC, we were forced buyers in the market over the summer.

The abuse is misplaced !

the abuse is uncalled for but not misplaced. with that cash injenction we should have brought quality not the dross we got, we all know that. there is no excuse for TK's purchases...when slava said of the players he didn't know them when they arrived it spoke volumes.

TK would be sacked but for his familly connections, none of us could serially fail on such a spectacular basis and remain in place.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: davew on January 12, 2019, 09:51:29 PM
Quote from: Robbie on January 12, 2019, 09:42:41 PM
Whatever you think of our predicament, the third club to get promoted has about 30% chance of staying up. The cards were always staked against us.
The Khans have put a shedload of cash into FFC, we were forced buyers in the market over the summer.

The abuse is misplaced !

Who are the abusers, not me I hope? The Khans have invested a lot of money into the club, but a lot of it has or will be covered by the rewards from being promoted and hopefully they will not be too much out of pocket from the penalties of being relegated which again will be partially compensated by the parachute payments! They have made mistakes and no doubt will continue to do so. nothing is guaranteed in any sport or business as I am sure they are discovering. Hopefully lessons have been learned and from now on they will be working on a plan to firstly secure our position in the Championship next season or better still build us a squad that can challenge for promotion again!
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on January 12, 2019, 10:28:02 PM
Just read the issue surrounding that Newspaper report. If he loves the club as much as he says he does.
I feel it would be in everyone's best interest, especially Fulham FC, if he steps down from the recruitment department, and let a professional who is qualified to do the job, replace him ASAP, before he inflicts more damage, and our ship sinks altogether.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: john dempsey on January 12, 2019, 10:37:44 PM
ridiculous statement , without the khans we don't have a ship.
probably not even the proverbial pot to p%%s in.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on January 12, 2019, 10:45:10 PM
Quote from: john dempsey on January 12, 2019, 10:37:44 PM
ridiculous statement , without the khans we don't have a ship.
probably not even the proverbial pot to p%%s in.

Not as ridiculous as your pathetic statement. I was referring to the incompetent Khan Junior
You give him far too much credit.
Fulham FC were here before he came, and will be there long after he has sailed back from whence he  came.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: David I on January 12, 2019, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: john dempsey on January 12, 2019, 10:37:44 PM
ridiculous statement , without the khans we don't have a ship.
probably not even the proverbial pot to p%%s in.
What a ridiculous comment .. year on year TK wastes his daddy's money and ruining our club. What business EVER puts an apprentice in charge of transfers (something TK knows fu££ all about)
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: elgreenio on January 12, 2019, 10:59:16 PM
Let's try to keep things civil chaps, everybody has differing opinions.

It's clearly a very heated subject and personally feel TK has overstepped the mark with his comment. However, the grass is always greener isn't it........
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: elgreenio on January 12, 2019, 11:00:23 PM
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Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Nero on January 12, 2019, 11:47:15 PM
Quote from: David I on January 12, 2019, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: john dempsey on January 12, 2019, 10:37:44 PM
ridiculous statement , without the khans we don't have a ship.
probably not even the proverbial pot to p%%s in.
What a ridiculous comment .. year on year TK wastes his daddy's money and ruining our club. What business EVER puts an apprentice in charge of transfers (something TK knows fu££ all about)

If you want to know about ruining the club just look up David Bulstrode
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Berserker on January 12, 2019, 11:56:08 PM
Look I know it was an unfortunate comment to make on Twitter, but has anybody thought that Tony Khan is a human being like the rest of us, and maybe , just maybe he is getting as upset and stressed out about the situation at Fulham. Especially as he is probably the one carrying the can to his father if it all goes wrong.

He's just stressed out and snapped back when being attacked on Twitter.

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Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Fulham Tup North on January 12, 2019, 11:58:03 PM
Quote from: Nero on January 12, 2019, 11:47:15 PM
Quote from: David I on January 12, 2019, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: john dempsey on January 12, 2019, 10:37:44 PM
ridiculous statement , without the khans we don't have a ship.
probably not even the proverbial pot to p%%s in.
What a ridiculous comment .. year on year TK wastes his daddy's money and ruining our club. What business EVER puts an apprentice in charge of transfers (something TK knows fu££ all about)

If you want to know about ruining the club just look up David Bulstrode
The difference with Bulstrode was that he did it on purpose, to sell the ground, built flats and make money. 
I do not believe TK wants to destroy the club, he is just not very good at his job(s).  Unable to see what is wrong, slow to react to sort it out and surrounding himself with people who either know less than him or who are to scared to open their mouths and say "Er, Tony, your doing it wrong". He  does not learn from his mistakes and just keeps doing the same thing but expects different results and we all know what that says about someone.  Maybe his Dad needs to get a grip of the situation?    092.gif
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: hopper on January 13, 2019, 12:00:16 AM
Hardly ruining the club when he was part of the process in getting us promoted! There's been some good buys and bad buys like at most clubs over the years. If we fell just short last year and were in higher championship spots this year he wouldn't be getting this abuse.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: KingofCheese on January 13, 2019, 12:06:36 AM
Quote from: David I on January 12, 2019, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: john dempsey on January 12, 2019, 10:37:44 PM
ridiculous statement , without the khans we don't have a ship.
probably not even the proverbial pot to p%%s in.
What a ridiculous comment .. year on year TK wastes his daddy's money and ruining our club. What business EVER puts an apprentice in charge of transfers (something TK knows fu££ all about)

"year on year" "ruining our club" umm...ruined it into the Premiership from the Championship...I thought the Premiership is above the Championship. I am not keen on his transfers but spare us the hyperbole if you don't mind?
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Statto on January 13, 2019, 12:34:14 AM
Quote from: KingofCheese on January 13, 2019, 12:06:36 AM
Quote from: David I on January 12, 2019, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: john dempsey on January 12, 2019, 10:37:44 PM
ridiculous statement , without the khans we don't have a ship.
probably not even the proverbial pot to p%%s in.
What a ridiculous comment .. year on year TK wastes his daddy's money and ruining our club. What business EVER puts an apprentice in charge of transfers (something TK knows fu££ all about)

"year on year" "ruining our club" umm...ruined it into the Premiership from the Championship...I thought the Premiership is above the Championship. I am not keen on his transfers but spare us the hyperbole if you don't mind?
not sure if you supported Fulham pre-2016 but FYI the Khans relegated us into the Championship place in the first place, and we've been one of the basket cases of English football ever since they took over. As it happens I was prepared to treat last season as an end to that until the K affair, but in any case the circus is well and truly back in town now.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: The Rock on January 13, 2019, 01:07:35 AM
Really enjoying this, Khan Junior has snapped and blasting the fans to go to hell. Amazing the head of recruitment would tweet something like this. And it's Fact!!! Volatility brings change.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Andy S on January 13, 2019, 01:46:57 AM
Totally unfair. The khans are happy to invest in Fulham. Yes they have made mistakes but they have my full support and if we go down then we have to fight to come back up again. I think a lot of people on here under estimate the task of staying in the prem once you get there. We will see
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Ara's bacon crisps on January 13, 2019, 01:56:55 AM
Quote from: Berserker on January 12, 2019, 11:56:08 PM
Look I know it was an unfortunate comment to make on Twitter, but has anybody thought that Tony Khan is a human being like the rest of us, and maybe , just maybe he is getting as upset and stressed out about the situation at Fulham. Especially as he is probably the one carrying the can to his father if it all goes wrong.

He's just stressed out and snapped back when being attacked on Twitter.

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And in the rest of the exchange, he made it clear that he was tweeting between making calls chasing new players, new players will be on the way and that the herbert who elicited the 'Go to hell' response trolls him regularly and started having a go at him again within 2 weeks of the play-off final.

The trouble is that the younger end of our fan base has mostly only known us in the Premier League and expects events such as Europa League finals to be regular occurrences. Those of us with a few more grey hairs know that, actually, even becalmed in mid-table in the Championship is pretty good compared to some of what we've experienced over the past 40 years or so.

Unfortunately, Twitter now also gives these pimply youths direct access to call senior club officials a C U Next Tuesday virtually to their face, as happened to TK this evening, so it doesn't surprise me that occasionally he fancies giving a bit back. The rest of us wouldn't take it lying down, so why should he?

He could easily block them on Twitter, but doesn't, so fair play to him for at least trying to stay engaged with fans, despite some of the dog's abuse he gets.

The teenage troll then had the temerity to suggest that TK is embarrassing the club by responding when, actually, he's the one embarrassing most real fans by haranguing the one man holding the cheque book that just might get us out of this mess if we're lucky.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Fulham1959 on January 13, 2019, 06:00:21 AM
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on January 13, 2019, 01:56:55 AM
Quote from: Berserker on January 12, 2019, 11:56:08 PM
Look I know it was an unfortunate comment to make on Twitter, but has anybody thought that Tony Khan is a human being like the rest of us, and maybe , just maybe he is getting as upset and stressed out about the situation at Fulham. Especially as he is probably the one carrying the can to his father if it all goes wrong.

He's just stressed out and snapped back when being attacked on Twitter.

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And in the rest of the exchange, he made it clear that he was tweeting between making calls chasing new players, new players will be on the way and that the herbert who elicited the 'Go to hell' response trolls him regularly and started having a go at him again within 2 weeks of the play-off final.

The trouble is that the younger end of our fan base has mostly only known us in the Premier League and expects events such as Europa League finals to be regular occurrences. Those of us with a few more grey hairs know that, actually, even becalmed in mid-table in the Championship is pretty good compared to some of what we've experienced over the past 40 years or so.

Unfortunately, Twitter now also gives these pimply youths direct access to call senior club officials a C U Next Tuesday virtually to their face, as happened to TK this evening, so it doesn't surprise me that occasionally he fancies giving a bit back. The rest of us wouldn't take it lying down, so why should he?

He could easily block them on Twitter, but doesn't, so fair play to him for at least trying to stay engaged with fans, despite some of the dog's abuse he gets.

The teenage troll then had the temerity to suggest that TK is embarrassing the club by responding when, actually, he's the one embarrassing most real fans by haranguing the one man holding the cheque book that just might get us out of this mess if we're lucky.

Very well said !!
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: BernieBoy on January 13, 2019, 06:43:03 AM
Whilst we a lot of us may not agree with the way we do our recruitment, the abuse TK gets is completely uncalled for! The owners have shelled out over £100m this season and supported getting us back to the PL!

They recruited Slav, who in turn bought Mitro. They purchased TC (which until this year everyone loved him... especially for the playoff final goal). Seri was rated highly across Europe and we were all raving about that signing in the summer. They bought Mitro in permanently, bought Mawson (bar injuries is another good signing) and got Rico who is also turning out to be a good addition. I might be in a minority, but Schurrle isn't a bad signing and has chipped in with his fair share of goals so far. The only real error was the Anguissa signing, relatively unknown and £30m - all clubs f*ck up at some stage and he might be ours! He is a beast and young enough to turn it around.

Get behind the owners and team, a couple of new recruits and we may turn it around... if not, was the Championship that bad? The last 2 years have given us some great memories along the way and some fantastic football to watch!
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: the nutflush on January 13, 2019, 06:45:57 AM
Quote from: BernieBoy on January 13, 2019, 06:43:03 AM
Whilst we a lot of us may not agree with the way we do our recruitment, the abuse TK gets is completely uncalled for! The owners have shelled out over £100m this season and supported getting us back to the PL!

They recruited Slav, who in turn bought Mitro. They purchased TC (which until this year everyone loved him... especially for the playoff final goal). Seri was rated highly across Europe and we were all raving about that signing in the summer. They bought Mitro in permanently, bought Mawson (bar injuries is another good signing) and got Rico who is also turning out to be a good addition. I might be in a minority, but Schurrle isn't a bad signing and has chipped in with his fair share of goals so far. The only real error was the Anguissa signing, relatively unknown and £30m - all clubs f*ck up at some stage and he might be ours! He is a beast and young enough to turn it around.

Get behind the owners and team, a couple of new recruits and we may turn it around... if not, was the Championship that bad? The last 2 years have given us some great memories along the way and some fantastic football to watch!

Anguissa  is not a beast.  He's a pussy cat at best.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: BernieBoy on January 13, 2019, 06:53:54 AM
Quote from: the nutflush on January 13, 2019, 06:45:57 AM
Quote from: BernieBoy on January 13, 2019, 06:43:03 AM
Whilst we a lot of us may not agree with the way we do our recruitment, the abuse TK gets is completely uncalled for! The owners have shelled out over £100m this season and supported getting us back to the PL!

They recruited Slav, who in turn bought Mitro. They purchased TC (which until this year everyone loved him... especially for the playoff final goal). Seri was rated highly across Europe and we were all raving about that signing in the summer. They bought Mitro in permanently, bought Mawson (bar injuries is another good signing) and got Rico who is also turning out to be a good addition. I might be in a minority, but Schurrle isn't a bad signing and has chipped in with his fair share of goals so far. The only real error was the Anguissa signing, relatively unknown and £30m - all clubs f*ck up at some stage and he might be ours! He is a beast and young enough to turn it around.

Get behind the owners and team, a couple of new recruits and we may turn it around... if not, was the Championship that bad? The last 2 years have given us some great memories along the way and some fantastic football to watch!

Anguissa  is not a beast.  He's a pussy cat at best.

I mean in physical appearance, he's a big lad.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Oakeshott on January 13, 2019, 07:36:06 AM
"TK would be sacked but for his familly connections"

He wouldn't have the job without the family connections. No other owner would have considered him for that role, lacking any relevant experience/track record.

It is difficult for outsiders, for despite being life long fans that is what 99.9% of us are when it comes to the inner workings of the Club's management, to know who is responsible for what, and clearly his father intervenes from time to time. But taking the last few years as a whole Nose is surely right, and we've got in place a chap palpably out of his depth, whatever his enthusiasm for the Club. (Indeed, in unkind moments I wonder whether his father knows that and would rather have him involved in a peripheral part of the family empire thousands of miles away from the States rather than being involved in something more central to it.)
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: hovewhite on January 13, 2019, 07:36:20 AM
Quote from: Berserker on January 12, 2019, 11:56:08 PM
Look I know it was an unfortunate comment to make on Twitter, but has anybody thought that Tony Khan is a human being like the rest of us, and maybe , just maybe he is getting as upset and stressed out about the situation at Fulham. Especially as he is probably the one carrying the can to his father if it all goes wrong.

He's just stressed out and snapped back when being attacked on Twitter.

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it's one comment, misplaced from a man under pressure,I don't rate him myself as he's not good at what he does in my opinion but it's 1 comment.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2019, 08:36:10 AM
You gotta laugh how journalism makes mountains out of mole hills,its gone world wide now on Fox sports Australia and over the sports pages of the New Zealand Herald.😁
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: nose returns on January 13, 2019, 09:11:10 AM
Quote from: Andy S on January 13, 2019, 01:46:57 AM
Totally unfair. The khans are happy to invest in Fulham. Yes they have made mistakes but they have my full support and if we go down then we have to fight to come back up again. I think a lot of people on here under estimate the task of staying in the prem once you get there. We will see

We understand everything you say. But the problem remains TK should not be in charge of recruitment or any football matters. If his father was not who he is TK would not have lasted a season. IMO,  i like the khans but this obvious error has to be corrected or we will never progress. Next season, if asit looks likely, we go down,  fills me with alarm because of what happened last time, we nearly slipped through twice.....   the khans do not learn from their errors, so it is likely to happpen again but we have lost a proper manager and imo got a less good one.

TK's words about closing the points gap are ridiculous, they sound like the childish nonsense of a john wayne western. He is not accepting his squad is third rate and is relying on the cavalry,, except he will be leading that and it is down to him we are where we are. He should move into a more strateguc role where he can do us some good, and leave the football to professionals.

Brian clough would have walked under this leadership.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: west kowloon white on January 13, 2019, 09:11:18 AM
Well done TK- one or two regulars on here must qualify?
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: davew on January 13, 2019, 09:33:23 AM
Quote from: Andy S on January 13, 2019, 01:46:57 AM
Totally unfair. The khans are happy to invest in Fulham. Yes they have made mistakes but they have my full support and if we go down then we have to fight to come back up again. I think a lot of people on here under estimate the task of staying in the prem once you get there. We will see
Cardiff are doing ok, how much did they spend in the last window? Won't mention Wolves as they were prepared for promotion!
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: davew on January 13, 2019, 09:37:15 AM
Quote from: BernieBoy on January 13, 2019, 06:43:03 AM


Get behind the owners and team, a couple of new recruits and we may turn it around... if not, was the Championship that bad? The last 2 years have given us some great memories along the way and some fantastic football to watch!
Agreed, bring back the Championship, far better league to compete in as the Premier League has become like Scotland's top league (though more sides competing these days instead of just the 2) uncompetitive and boring!
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: sarnian on January 13, 2019, 09:38:21 AM
Don't have Twitter, Facebook or any other like social media. I do read this site which seems to be well regulated and also the voy site.

You constantly read in the papers or hear on the TV news about people being abused and insulted leading to severe consequences like mental breakdown or suicide.

I can well imagine TK snapping after being abused constantly. I'm surprised he hasn't responded to some of the personal abuse he gets on voy.

I have no sympathy for anybody like TK or his abuser as if you if you are on these sites and can't stand the heat in the kitchen the simple answer is get out.

Yes I'm probably an old fart but I'm a happy old fart. 049:gif

Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2019, 09:42:59 AM
Quote from: davew on January 13, 2019, 09:37:15 AM
Quote from: BernieBoy on January 13, 2019, 06:43:03 AM


Get behind the owners and team, a couple of new recruits and we may turn it around... if not, was the Championship that bad? The last 2 years have given us some great memories along the way and some fantastic football to watch!
Agreed, bring back the Championship, far better league to compete in as the Premier League has become like Scotland's top league (though more sides competing these days instead of just the 2) uncompetitive and boring!

You forgot France PSG
Italy Juventus
Spain. Barca and Real
Germany.Bayern and Dortmund
Much the same everywhere Dave.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Statto on January 13, 2019, 10:10:20 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2019, 08:36:10 AM
You gotta laugh how journalism makes mountains out of mole hills,its gone world wide now on Fox sports Australia and over the sports pages of the New Zealand Herald.😁

To some extent I agree but everyone in the public eye knows that's what will happen these days and that's why anyone with 3 brain cells doesn't react to it.

Tony Khan is actually almost anonymous compared to most celebs but he has exposed himself by choosing to post on social media, choosing to allow comments/replies, and then choosing to read them. Why bother if it upsets you so much? (And it clearly does because he reacts like this regularly)
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Statto on January 13, 2019, 10:10:30 AM
Another point not mentioned yet is what example does this set for the players? They get far more abuse, eg AK47 at the Huddersfield game then online after, and don't react. And of course the context of all this is them watching K get escorted away by police last year. How's the manager meant to discipline the players when they can all see the DoF and his cronies behaving far worse?
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: HV71 on January 13, 2019, 10:26:12 AM
Any club tries to control and manage its image - which is perfectly reasonable. Where does senior executives spouting off ( from the hip) fit into that strategy. Just because  a certain President does it doesn't make it right . Of course TK should not be abused - whilst the Kahn's motives are not in question in my opinion ( their execution are worthy of criticism) but responding to a fan in this manner is both futile and foolish
All of this discord - Kamara alleged dispute - players openly talking about a lack of effort etc just demonstrates what a Pitiful state we are in . The Chairman's son throwing mud doesn't help
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: gang on January 13, 2019, 10:27:54 AM
I remember Al Faid saying once after criticism "If you don't like it there's another football club up the road go there".
Nobody likes to be criticised.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Holders on January 13, 2019, 11:30:40 AM
In my view, TK was perfectly within his rights. He'd had a pleasant and useful exchange with a fan earlier (reported on here) but if I were working as hard as I believe that he is to achieve something I wouldn't take kindly to a call to walk away from something that my family owns! I don't believe the comment aimed at him does the cause any good at all.

I don't think I'd have put it in quite those terms but Americans are, by nature, more open in expressing their feelings and less subtle
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: sunburywhite on January 13, 2019, 11:32:49 AM
Lets not forget the Khans are not in this because they love the club, they are in it for the money
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: alfie on January 13, 2019, 11:57:25 AM
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 13, 2019, 11:32:49 AM
Lets not forget the Khans are not in this because they love the club, they are in it for the money
Really what money, and how do you know this?
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Luka on January 13, 2019, 12:26:14 PM
If TK is being trolled then he's entitled to a bit of slack.
His response could have been much stronger. He's had a privileged upbringing and he's lucky to be where he is, but he's under no obligation to just suck it up.
The troll has won this battle but maybe not the war.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Holders on January 13, 2019, 12:31:44 PM
Quote from: Luka on January 13, 2019, 12:26:14 PM
If TK is being trolled then he's entitled to a bit of slack.
His response could have been much stronger. He's had a privileged upbringing and he's lucky to be where he is, but he's under no obligation to just suck it up.
The troll has won this battle but maybe not the war.

I'm not sure he has, tbh. I think most people would think that TK was entitled to his comment.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: toshes mate on January 13, 2019, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: Holders on January 13, 2019, 12:31:44 PM
Quote from: Luka on January 13, 2019, 12:26:14 PM
If TK is being trolled then he's entitled to a bit of slack.
His response could have been much stronger. He's had a privileged upbringing and he's lucky to be where he is, but he's under no obligation to just suck it up.
The troll has won this battle but maybe not the war.

I'm not sure he has, tbh. I think most people would think that TK was entitled to his comment.
He has the right to make a comment, for sure, but I think his choice of comment showed up his naive lack of understanding about football support in England and he was under no duress.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: filham on January 13, 2019, 01:23:29 PM
None of us know the inner workings of our club but Tony Khan is the man who should be controlling things and an enormous sum of £100 million has be wasted over one transfer window , he has to take the can back.

However his football experience is limited and he must have relied on advisers, some of those should stand up to be counted. One of the advisers had to be Jocanovic and he has now paid the price with his job. Lets just hope that Ranieri can offer better advice and that others will now keep quiet to ensure that the new manager gets his way without opposition.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Steven Ageroad on January 13, 2019, 01:46:29 PM
Just picture the scene, TK has just received a text from an agent of his top 2 transfer targets saying that they will not be joining FFC but going to a rival, he'd spent a lot of time and effort on the deal. At that moment he receive a comment on social media,from some little oik, telling him "to leave our club". I think I may have used something stronger than "Go to hell".
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on January 13, 2019, 04:51:44 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2019, 08:36:10 AM
You gotta laugh how journalism makes mountains out of mole hills,its gone world wide now on Fox sports Australia and over the sports pages of the New Zealand Herald.😁

Mole hills are their golden ticket!
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on January 13, 2019, 04:52:35 PM
A lot of fans deserve a good cussing. Fair play to Tony Khan.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: ..FOF.. on January 14, 2019, 02:49:28 AM
The fire have been lit.

Will it cook us a good meal or burn down the house?
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on January 14, 2019, 02:56:31 AM
Quote from: ..FOF.. on January 14, 2019, 02:49:28 AM
The fire have been lit.

Will it cook us a good meal or burn down the house?

It will turn out to be just a salad.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: General on January 14, 2019, 07:55:58 AM
Quote from: john dempsey on January 12, 2019, 10:37:44 PM
ridiculous statement , without the khans we don't have a ship.
probably not even the proverbial pot to p%%s in.

What an absurd statement. Fulham has been around long before the khan's and will be around long after them.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: RaySmith on January 14, 2019, 08:10:36 AM
The abusive fan was out of order - feel sympathy for Khan, who is, after all, making himself open to personal  communication with fans.

I believe Khan is a genuine bloke in his management at Fulham, even if  he hasn't always made the right decisions.
The truth is, is that we just  don't really know  much about the details of Fulham's transfer dealings, apart from the fact that they haven't worked out very well considering the money spent, which I'm sure he is well aware of. and desperate to rectify - do you really think the khans aren't bothered if we go down? especially with work on the new stand about to commence.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: The Rational Fan on January 14, 2019, 08:46:33 AM
Quote from: nose on January 13, 2019, 09:11:10 AM
Quote from: Andy S on January 13, 2019, 01:46:57 AM
Totally unfair. The khans are happy to invest in Fulham. Yes they have made mistakes but they have my full support and if we go down then we have to fight to come back up again. I think a lot of people on here under estimate the task of staying in the prem once you get there. We will see

We understand everything you say. But the problem remains TK should not be in charge of recruitment or any football matters. If his father was not who he is TK would not have lasted a season. IMO,  i like the khans but this obvious error has to be corrected or we will never progress. Next season, if asit looks likely, we go down,  fills me with alarm because of what happened last time, we nearly slipped through twice.....   the khans do not learn from their errors, so it is likely to happpen again but we have lost a proper manager and imo got a less good one.

TK's words about closing the points gap are ridiculous, they sound like the childish nonsense of a john wayne western. He is not accepting his squad is third rate and is relying on the cavalry,, except he will be leading that and it is down to him we are where we are. He should move into a more strateguc role where he can do us some good, and leave the football to professionals.

Brian clough would have walked under this leadership.

Brian Clough was one of the greatest managers to grace the English Game, but no Manager (not even Brian Clough) should be able to sign a player (like David Nish) on "British-Record transfer fees' without even notifying the owners of the club (in that case Derby County). If anyone behaves like Brian Clough in any job, then they deserve to be sacked no matter how good they are at their job.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: toshes mate on January 14, 2019, 08:56:33 AM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on January 13, 2019, 01:46:29 PM
Just picture the scene, TK has just received a text from an agent of his top 2 transfer targets saying that they will not be joining FFC but going to a rival, he'd spent a lot of time and effort on the deal. At that moment he receive a comment on social media,from some little oik, telling him "to leave our club". I think I may have used something stronger than "Go to hell".
Folklore has it that that particular scenario has happened time and time before this window and, in any event, is not an excuse for abusing a supporter who asked, very politely, for TK to leave Fulham.  I know paying customers do not count for very much in contemporary society, indeed they couldn't count for much less, but that doesn't mean it is the right way for owners to be.  Much of professional entertainment is skewed in this way, and, again, that doesn't make any of it right.  Without the influx of undemocratic media and sponsorship money where would professional football be? 
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on January 14, 2019, 09:03:14 AM
Quote from: filham on January 13, 2019, 01:23:29 PM
None of us know the inner workings of our club but Tony Khan is the man who should be controlling things and an enormous sum of £100 million has be wasted over one transfer window , he has to take the can back.

However his football experience is limited and he must have relied on advisers, some of those should stand up to be counted. One of the advisers had to be Jocanovic and he has now paid the price with his job. Lets just hope that Ranieri can offer better advice and that others will now keep quiet to ensure that the new manager gets his way without opposition.


When will you get into your head that TK not only has the final decision on players but the previous manager had no say in recruitment if any player he wanted didn't fulfill the stats 

There's enough evidence out there in comments from all the protagonists, all you have to do is read them carefully.

Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: toshes mate on January 14, 2019, 10:11:54 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on January 14, 2019, 08:10:36 AM
The abusive fan was out of order - feel sympathy for Khan, who is, after all, making himself open to personal  communication with fans.

I believe Khan is a genuine bloke in his management at Fulham, even if  he hasn't always made the right decisions.
The truth is, is that we just  don't really know  much about the details of Fulham's transfer dealings, apart from the fact that they haven't worked out very well considering the money spent, which I'm sure he is well aware of. and desperate to rectify - do you really think the khans aren't bothered if we go down? especially with work on the new stand about to commence.
With respect, Ray, it really is irrelevant whether or not you or anybody else 'believes' TK is 'genuine' in respect of any of his actions and activities.  He holds a position of seniority at FFC and is therefore responsible for being, at the very least, a voice of FFC.  Do you believe it is right for FFC to tell any of its supporters to 'go to hell' simply because they hold a view the owners do not like?  How did the Khan Snr behave when the media found out that SJ was on the way out in favour of Ranieri ahead of his plan?  Who, other than the Khans and their chums could possibly know enough for the press to get hold of the truth?  The Khans dropped down my league of respectful and decent owners over the SJ sacking debacle simply because of their clumsiness and amateurism.  Much better to be honest, in my humble opinion.

TK has chosen to interact on social media and I don't 'believe' anybody forced him to do so.  He must therefore practice what he preaches unless he wants to feel as abused as the 'genuine' supporter who politely asked him to leave may feel.   He has let himself and everybody else at FFC down simply by losing his rag.     
Title: Re: Tomorrow's Papers Tony Khan
Post by: john dempsey on January 14, 2019, 01:45:13 PM
of course tony khan is to blame and should leave the club immediately,
he cant head a ball and I have yet to see him put a decent tackle in
and his goalscoring record is even worse lets blame him for everything.