Cahill and Chelsea had agreed a deal but Fulham would not give Cahill a longer contract. So Cahill pulled out. According to Sky .
We are now relegated as we really need a centre half. Just look at our defending yesterday.
we may get another centre half just as good and half the price
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Quote from: Berserker on January 21, 2019, 05:37:16 PM
we may get another centre half just as good and half the price
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I won't hold my breath.
Half the price of free?
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Maybe it will never happen. Did our owner not see the hapless defending yesterday, Come on and sort it out because if we don't we are returning to the Championship at the end of this season.
Houdini couldn't help us escape relegation I don't think.
Quote from: The Swan on January 21, 2019, 06:12:33 PM
Maybe it will never happen. Did our owner not see the hapless defending yesterday, Come on and sort it out because if we don't we are returning to the Championship at the end of this season.
If we do go down it won't be the end of the world and the club won't pay the wages Cahill wants for good reason he isn't worth £120,000 a week
Look at the impact Babel had -a coupl of defenders with the same impact on the game........?
Policy.....nobody over 28 gets a contract I suspect. As Ricky Gervais would say, "throw the policy book out the window" ...10 days left to find a centre half. I know a lad I used to play with at Fulham Compton old boys, good centre half but he is a bit older now. We played back in the 70s so probably not quick enough.
Sensible decision. If we gave him 120k a week for 18 months and go down we are in trouble. Those kind of wages would pay for 3-5 top championship players.
Quote from: MJG on January 21, 2019, 06:39:07 PM
Sensible decision. If we gave him 120k a week for 18 months and go down we are in trouble. Those kind of wages would pay for 3-5 top championship players.
We could offset that amount elsewhere or loan him out if we go down (even if we paid a proportion of his wages) that would mitigate too much financial strain. So probably not a financial decision. Possibly more to do with upsetting any wage structure in place.
If Babel turns out good (and I think he will), I'd bite his hand off to sign him for the championship, doesn't matter how old he is.... isn't Ashley Cole going to derby
Quote from: MJG on January 21, 2019, 06:39:07 PM
Sensible decision. If we gave him 120k a week for 18 months and go down we are in trouble. Those kind of wages would pay for 3-5 top championship players.
Agree 100%
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on January 21, 2019, 07:23:29 PM
If Babel turns out good (and I think he will), I'd bite his hand off to sign him for the championship, doesn't matter how old he is.... isn't Ashley Cole going to derby
Agree as long as he's not on stupid wages
If he is not coming because we did not offer along enough contract, I wonder if we did try one where if we got relegated his money would be reviewed?
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Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on January 21, 2019, 08:50:10 PM
Quote from: MJG on January 21, 2019, 06:39:07 PM
Sensible decision. If we gave him 120k a week for 18 months and go down we are in trouble. Those kind of wages would pay for 3-5 top championship players.
Agree 100%
Fine but is it a sensible decision to have focussed on him for a month instead of a more realistic target?
It must have crossed our minds that someone on £120k at the moment might want pretty generous terms to come here
.... Because we are already down and he doesn't want to a) take a contract until the end of the season and then be looking for a final pay day with his stock reduced and tarnished by relegation, whist being another season older. And/or b). Take a longer contract with us with a relegation clause meaning reduced wages in what will probably be his final contract and earnings before retirement.
Sounds fair enough to me. Let's get someone in who can do a job, and is willing to do a job, for us in the championship, on wages which are sustainable in the aforementioned championship.
He could have watched the Spurs game and decided that if he has to work as hard as our players did in that game for the rest of the season he would be better taking it easy at Chelsea, especially with all that money stacking up in his bank account.
Quote from: MJG on January 21, 2019, 06:39:07 PM
Sensible decision. If we gave him 120k a week for 18 months and go down we are in trouble. Those kind of wages would pay for 3-5 top championship players.
we need a top class center half, he was available, do you have an alternative suggestion of a player that may make a similar impact?
Quote from: nose on January 21, 2019, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: MJG on January 21, 2019, 06:39:07 PM
Sensible decision. If we gave him 120k a week for 18 months and go down we are in trouble. Those kind of wages would pay for 3-5 top championship players.
we need a top class center half, he was available, do you have an alternative suggestion of a player that may make a similar impact?
you don't know what impact he will make. Last played a game in late November.
You will note I said sensible because of the 18 month possibility. Short term I'm still not sure he's right for us but maybe worth the gamble... But not longer because of the cost.
We went down last time with over 30's with no value on 40k plus a week, let's learn by our mistakes and not do that again.
We are still favorites @ sky sports transfer bets.
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on January 21, 2019, 08:50:10 PM
Quote from: MJG on January 21, 2019, 06:39:07 PM
Sensible decision. If we gave him 120k a week for 18 months and go down we are in trouble. Those kind of wages would pay for 3-5 top championship players.
Agree 100%
It is rumoured that Anguissa's contact lowers his current wage of £67,000 dramatically if we go down and Gary Cahill didn't want that clause. Gary Cahill will jump to Fulham if it's us or Huddersfield.
Gary Cahill would have been the ideal player we could have done with.
Wouldn't be a surprise to see a deal agreed.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 22, 2019, 06:53:31 AM
Gary Cahill would have been the ideal player we could have done with.
+1 absolutely
if the money is more important than him than playing football, OK that is his decision and move on. If this is his mindset, not too sure he would fight to keep us up ....
In a way all these negotiations have come down to throwing a dart whilst blindfolded into a spinning dart board with yes/no written on it. Cahill won't be here in time to offer 110 percent against Brighton and as has been said if we lose that it's virtually lights out so we will have a mercenary tagging along until May.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 22, 2019, 06:01:20 AM
It is rumoured that Anguissa's contact lowers his current wage of £67,000 dramatically if we go down
If true that would, for once, be a great bit of business from the club. All the big summer signings are on long contracts. It would be great if we could keep them here on lower wages next year. A year playing together in the Championship, to compensate for its failings this season and come back stronger in 20/21, would be just the tonic this group of players need.
Quote from: MJG on January 21, 2019, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: nose on January 21, 2019, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: MJG on January 21, 2019, 06:39:07 PM
Sensible decision. If we gave him 120k a week for 18 months and go down we are in trouble. Those kind of wages would pay for 3-5 top championship players.
we need a top class center half, he was available, do you have an alternative suggestion of a player that may make a similar impact?
you don't know what impact he will make. Last played a game in late November.
You will note I said sensible because of the 18 month possibility. Short term I'm still not sure he's right for us but maybe worth the gamble... But not longer because of the cost.
We went down last time with over 30's with no value on 40k plus a week, let's learn by our mistakes and not do that again.
I noted your comments and understand the rational but I was asking do you know of an alternative that presents such a good possibility to hit the ground running. Personally I don't know anyone else and I think at that salary he is taking the wattsit and agree is a non starter. However, with a little imagination I suspect he could have been tempted with a carrot such as be more reasonable now and if we stay up we will improve your salary, for all i know they tried that.
As it is he is an idiot sitting on the bench and he seemed such a good fit. Perhaps with that attitude he wasn't the right man, But we still need a center half.
I am not sure what he wants. He is 33 years old and he wants a long contract, not sure where he is going to get that but it won't be with a premier ship club. The best he can hope for is a year with a Championship club but not on 120k a week. So he comes to us or sits on his backside at Chelsea. He needs to come quick to take advantage of the free week so he can start training with the rest of the team and get match fit
£120 grand a week? Really? And people bulked at the idea of paying fredricks half that.
Quote from: Bill2 on January 23, 2019, 12:14:42 PM
I am not sure what he wants. He is 33 years old and he wants a long contract, not sure where he is going to get that but it won't be with a premier ship club. The best he can hope for is a year with a Championship club but not on 120k a week. So he comes to us or sits on his backside at Chelsea. He needs to come quick to take advantage of the free week so he can start training with the rest of the team and get match fit
He can go to China or the MLS. The MLS doesn't normally shell out big money for defenders though.
Quote from: BigbadBillyMcKinley on January 24, 2019, 12:01:40 AM
£120 grand a week? Really? And people bulked at the idea of paying fredricks half that.
yes, because at the time he wanted a new contract signed we were still in the championship with no guarantee we would get promoted.
Quote from: MJG on January 24, 2019, 05:59:17 AM
Quote from: BigbadBillyMcKinley on January 24, 2019, 12:01:40 AM
£120 grand a week? Really? And people bulked at the idea of paying fredricks half that.
yes, because at the time he wanted a new contract signed we were still in the championship with no guarantee we would get promoted.
Still a no from me. Cheaper options. Younger option. Better options.
Cahill to Fulham or Monaco who are bottom of French league is the word.
With Henry about to be sacked after just 15 games in charge,who will he choose?
a nice walk to the ground along Monaco beach front.
or a walk round butterwick and up the Fulham palace road
hmmm. let me think about that..
