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Title: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: brightster on January 22, 2019, 09:19:02 AM
It seems that Emiliano Sala was on the plane that has gone missing over the channel last night. Terrible news.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Camel Club on January 22, 2019, 09:27:27 AM
Very sad and it's all over the media now. I hope that the appropriate authorities made his family aware that he might have been on the aircraft and that they don't learn about it through the TV or internet.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: brightster on January 22, 2019, 09:31:02 AM
I think they would have know last night, it happened just after 20:20 last night and it's only been reported this morning.
Such terrible news.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: JoelH5 on January 22, 2019, 09:37:48 AM
As said above, surely he would have called someone by now etc if he wasn't on board. Terrible news.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on January 22, 2019, 09:48:42 AM
Oh dear - puts our relegation fight into perspective - Cardiff's record purchase. What terrible news
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: filham on January 22, 2019, 09:55:48 AM
Is this genuine news , hard to believe.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: junior white on January 22, 2019, 10:01:31 AM
seems to have been confirmed he was on the flight
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Sgt Fulham on January 22, 2019, 10:20:47 AM
Oh dear, this world really is cruel at times. Just recently we had the Leicester helicopter disaster and now this.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: alfie on January 22, 2019, 11:35:08 AM
I have just read this on the Fulham foram on Facebook and I am ashamed to read some of the jokes coming from so called Fulham fans, one small example "15 million drop in the ocean".

There are some very twisted minded people around.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: grandad on January 22, 2019, 11:41:56 AM
Very sad that should happen to any one. Thoughts with his family.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: the nutflush on January 22, 2019, 11:42:51 AM
What tragic news.  Sick jokes.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: f321ffc on January 22, 2019, 11:49:48 AM
From Cardiff forum Very sad news
French Civil Aviation authority has confirmed Sala was on board.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Andy S on January 22, 2019, 11:52:00 AM
Tragic news but the shock of a sudden death sometimes brings out humour. It's not taking the Micky in its self it is a way of expressing emotion. It's a bit like the joke that goes "A tile fell off a roof today and missed a blokes shoulder by 6 inches.........It split his head open. It's like the old war time jokes from years ago it's a release
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on January 22, 2019, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Andy S on January 22, 2019, 11:52:00 AM
Tragic news but the shock of a sudden death sometimes brings out humour. It's not taking the Micky in its self it is a way of expressing emotion. It's a bit like the joke that goes "A tile fell off a roof today and missed a blokes shoulder by 6 inches.........It split his head open. It's like the old war time jokes from years ago it's a release

Are you serious ? 
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: grandad on January 22, 2019, 12:28:18 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 22, 2019, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Andy S on January 22, 2019, 11:52:00 AM
Tragic news but the shock of a sudden death sometimes brings out humour. It's not taking the Micky in its self it is a way of expressing emotion. It's a bit like the joke that goes "A tile fell off a roof today and missed a blokes shoulder by 6 inches.........It split his head open. It's like the old war time jokes from years ago it's a release

Are you serious ?

It only brings out humour in sick people. My youngest daughter died suddenly last November of Cardiac arrest & there was nothing funny about it.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Jamie88 on January 22, 2019, 12:33:18 PM
Quote from: Andy S on January 22, 2019, 11:52:00 AM
Tragic news but the shock of a sudden death sometimes brings out humour. It's not taking the Micky in its self it is a way of expressing emotion. It's a bit like the joke that goes "A tile fell off a roof today and missed a blokes shoulder by 6 inches.........It split his head open. It's like the old war time jokes from years ago it's a release

"Tragic news but.."
no, there is no but, a man has most likely lost his life and you are defending people who jump on the situation to crack shite jokes as soon as physically possible for no other reason than a complete lack of class.
You're seriously suggesting the people making these jokes are telling them as a form of release?!
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Holders on January 22, 2019, 12:40:32 PM
Not funny but I heard it said on the radio that the footballer was on board plus one other person, probably the pilot.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Statto on January 22, 2019, 12:50:21 PM
Quote from: grandad on January 22, 2019, 11:41:56 AM
Very sad that should happen to any one. Thoughts with his family.

+1
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on January 22, 2019, 01:54:37 PM
Shocking and so very sad, it can be a cruel world out there, and you never know what other tragedies are waiting round the corner for anyone. Life can be very hard to comprehend sometimes.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: The Swan on January 22, 2019, 02:08:47 PM
This is very sad news. What a shock for his friends and family. The young man was just going to play in the Premier League, so much to look forward to.

I feel sorry for his family. I also feel sorry for the Cardiff club and their supporters. May Mr Sala rest in peace.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Andy S on January 22, 2019, 03:06:50 PM
There is a funny side to death and it comes to us all. Do you really want people mopeing around when it is your turn? Somebody I know was in a bar after a match last weekend and his best mate dropped dead at age 45 still holding his pint of beer. It can happen any time and none of us are immune. I don't want anyone being miserable at my funeral havedrinks and tell as many jokes as they can
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Riversider on January 22, 2019, 03:27:44 PM
Quote from: Andy S on January 22, 2019, 03:06:50 PM
There is a funny side to death and it comes to us all. Do you really want people mopeing around when it is your turn? Somebody I know was in a bar after a match last weekend and his best mate dropped dead at age 45 still holding his pint of beer. It can happen any time and none of us are immune. I don't want anyone being miserable at my funeral havedrinks and tell as many jokes as they can

Agreed, if it had been a Fulham striker in the plane that we had just paid £18 million for, he would probably have missed the ocean.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: gezkc on January 22, 2019, 03:38:43 PM
I agree humour does have a place in helping people cope with all manner of things, but there is a time and a place.

To make jokes about someone dying in a plane crash just shows a lack of respect.
If this happened to someone you knew, I doubt any of us would appreciate strangers having a laugh about it.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on January 22, 2019, 03:53:32 PM
I echo the sentiments regarding hearts to the families etc and it's such a shame that something that strted with so much hope has ended so abruptly.

A question I do have (and forgive me as this will be viewed as insensitive by many) - more out of intrigue than anything else - but what happens to the money Cardiff have agreed to pay? Are they still liable for it? Written off in insurance etc?

If people feel this is too soon then do please feel free to delete. I just thought as this has never happened before that it was interesting (a wrong word perhaps) situation.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: FFC1987 on January 22, 2019, 04:06:57 PM
Do we have confirmation that its definitely a death scenario too? Maybe its me being naive, but isn't there still a chance he's alive and stranded?
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: sarnian on January 22, 2019, 04:17:20 PM
If he crashed into the sea off the Casquets which can be pretty rough there is little chance of survival. Radio contact was lost at just over 2000ft and there is nowhere near where a plane can land.  Heard or seen search helicopters last night and this morning but don't think there is much hope.

I have nothing against humour but some of the sick jokes going round is not acceptable. Would they say the same if it was one of their relatives.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Fulham 442 on January 22, 2019, 04:17:36 PM
Very doubtful he and the pilot are still alive. They made a request to land near the Channel Islands but then went off radar.  An expert has said that although extensive searches have been carried out the plane could drift up to 20 miles in the current. Also that the water is freezing.  He seemed to think there was no hope of survival. Terribly sad.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Riversider on January 22, 2019, 04:20:28 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on January 22, 2019, 03:53:32 PM
I echo the sentiments regarding hearts to the families etc and it's such a shame that something that strted with so much hope has ended so abruptly.

A question I do have (and forgive me as this will be viewed as insensitive by many) - more out of intrigue than anything else - but what happens to the money Cardiff have agreed to pay? Are they still liable for it? Written off in insurance etc?

If people feel this is too soon then do please feel free to delete. I just thought as this has never happened before that it was interesting (a wrong word perhaps) situation.
As soon as the money is transferred he is insured,
Cardiff are currently £18 million out of pocket, plus a signing on fee,
They will get the transfer fee back but too late to help them in this window
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: FFC1987 on January 22, 2019, 04:34:01 PM
Cheers for updating me, as I said, I assumed I was being naive but was holding out for some hope  :dft004:
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: nose returns on January 22, 2019, 04:35:44 PM
very sad, puts it back in perspective.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Steven Ageroad on January 22, 2019, 04:47:09 PM
Very sad news.

So make the most of today, because you just don't know what's going to happen tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: SG on January 22, 2019, 05:08:32 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on January 22, 2019, 04:47:09 PM
Very sad news.

So make the most of today, because you just don't know what's going to happen tomorrow.

So true, life can kick you in the teeth and is precisely why I'm in Barbados and going to the cricket tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Twig on January 22, 2019, 05:37:48 PM
Just wanted to add my condolences. Nothing funny about this at all and absolutely no place for jokes in very bad taste. Just very sad news that a young man in his prime should suffer such a dreadful demise. 
Similar sentiments regarding the pilot too.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: The Rock on January 22, 2019, 05:55:45 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on January 22, 2019, 03:53:32 PM
I echo the sentiments regarding hearts to the families etc and it's such a shame that something that strted with so much hope has ended so abruptly.

A question I do have (and forgive me as this will be viewed as insensitive by many) - more out of intrigue than anything else - but what happens to the money Cardiff have agreed to pay? Are they still liable for it? Written off in insurance etc?

If people feel this is too soon then do please feel free to delete. I just thought as this has never happened before that it was interesting (a wrong word perhaps) situation.

I had the same question and it is a valid one, emotions aside.

I am led to believe as long as the papers are signed and he is on Cardiff books, then Nantes should already have their check in the bank/money coming to them in payments regardless of the circumstances. I'd be interested to hear if there is any fine print in these situations; or if clubs take re-insurance on a player or situation or have any clauses of this nature. But on paper, Cardiff just lost however many million. Bitter pill.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: JoelH5 on January 22, 2019, 06:01:23 PM
Players are viewed by banks as assets and so they probably have their player insured. Nothing to do with Nantes though as he's a Cardiff player.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: Riversider on January 22, 2019, 06:09:38 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on January 22, 2019, 06:01:23 PM
Players are viewed by banks as assets and so they probably have their player insured. Nothing to do with Nantes though as he's a Cardiff player.

No probably about it , he was insured the second he became a Cardiff player.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: aster on January 22, 2019, 06:29:36 PM
He is a Cardiff player, and the president of Nantes wasted no time in emphasising it:

I had no idea that he was still in Nantes, he is no longer a Nantes player, the boy does what he wants. I'm saying does..because I still hope that he will be found alive.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: davew on January 22, 2019, 06:33:42 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on January 22, 2019, 11:42:51 AM
What tragic news.  Sick jokes.
Makes you wish those people should have been on the plane, not him!!!
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: davew on January 22, 2019, 06:36:14 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on January 22, 2019, 06:01:23 PM
Players are viewed by banks as assets and so they probably have their player insured. Nothing to do with Nantes though as he's a Cardiff player.
I would think that the last thing anybody is thinking about is an insurance claim or Cardiff's chances of staying up!! Some people on here are sad!!
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: filham on January 22, 2019, 06:39:36 PM
Really sad news, I just didn't believe it at first.
No joking matter.
Title: Re: Cardiff New Striker Missing Sky new Breaking
Post by: SP on January 22, 2019, 06:50:44 PM
Terrible news.  Our office has been in shock today as a guy who's taking a career break to care for his terminally ill fiancée had a heart attack & died.  He was due to drop by for a drink this week to celebrate his impending wedding in the Caribbean. It certainly puts football into perspective.