A couple of wins will draw another 2 teams into the mix and give
us the 'will' to survive.
We've done this sort of things several times (promotion and beating the drop) recently
Just one more please.
Pretty Please
I agree, I am still standing!
This is head and heart stuff.
The heart is mildly optimistic and we will live or die by the manager's ability to be pragmatic.
The head says the squad is far too dysfunctional. No proper full backs or center half and despite the fiction writen by my cult band of critics, some of whom i doubt go to the game, for whatever reason, and do not see the whole picture on the pitch, i feel the man Tk And his dad raised expectations of top class signings this window and that hasn't happened.
Further, the head read the TCinterview in the standard and reading between the lines he and the manager do not see eye to eye on how we should be playing. TC advocates second half v brighton style, as any sane person would, CR believes in 5 at the back and the aimless lump. So head says, not room for much optimism unless CR, not my favourite manager at all, shows pragmatism and listens to the players.
And when are those wins coming?
Quote from: Twig on February 01, 2019, 11:49:06 PM
And when are those wins coming?
Well we got one against Brighton this week and we've got an out of form Zahaless Palace to play later today.
Quote from: nose on February 01, 2019, 10:45:31 PM
This is head and heart stuff.
The heart is mildly optimistic and we will live or die by the manager's ability to be pragmatic.
The head says the squad is far too dysfunctional. No proper full backs or center half and despite the fiction writen by my cult band of critics, some of whom i doubt go to the game, for whatever reason, and do not see the whole picture on the pitch, i feel the man Tk And his dad raised expectations of top class signings this window and that hasn't happened.
Further, the head read the TCinterview in the standard and reading between the lines he and the manager do not see eye to eye on how we should be playing. TC advocates second half v brighton style, as any sane person would, CR believes in 5 at the back and the aimless lump. So head says, not room for much optimism unless CR, not my favourite manager at all, shows pragmatism and listens to the players.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't. You're right.
I give it a 40% chance. That is not even Great escape territory.
In Life
Some are born to be kings, some to be paupers,
Some to be cleaners, Some to be Internet Mega Corps Leaders
Some to be Premier, Some to be Championship.
All One can do is be the best version of that position you were given in Life, or in Football.
Just do your best Lads.
Today's game will go some way to determining if we have a chance. The home run of matches means that we have to pick up points away from home. This is one of those opportunities.
I haven't given up. We were often like this back in the long gone '60's'. 1961/62 was one of the best escapes. During this we had a run of 15 games where we won 1 and lost 14, eleven in a row. However, we finished 20th out of 22 and survived. 049:gif
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Quote from: bog on February 02, 2019, 09:01:49 AM
I haven't given up. We were often like this back in the long gone '60's'. 1961/62 was one of the best escapes. During this we had a run of 15 games where we won 1 and lost 14, eleven in a row. However, we finished 20th out of 22 and survived. 049:gif
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Me too, bog, and I will never give up in my heart until it is mathematically impossible. But, as nose writes too often to be ignored. some things are just not right at this Club and haven't been right for quite a long time by all accounts, even during the magical run and play off success. I fancy FFC to survive again if the players and their manager can work out a formation and style that will suit everyone selected for duty because many of the players clearly do not see CR's preferred (or only style) working the oracle. We need to double our points tally in what remains of the season to be seriously safe - 19 points from 14 games and that means winning almost half those games. Failing that it will go to the wire and be an issue of fortune and all that that entails.
My head said we had gone, but the fight the team have demonstrated more recently gives me hope. So it's doable but it does also mean beating some tops teams I feel, especially if we don't get results against teams like Hudd,Cardiff,Burnly etc.
Quote from: Matt10 on February 02, 2019, 01:28:25 AM
Quote from: nose on February 01, 2019, 10:45:31 PM
This is head and heart stuff.
The heart is mildly optimistic and we will live or die by the manager's ability to be pragmatic.
The head says the squad is far too dysfunctional. No proper full backs or center half and despite the fiction writen by my cult band of critics, some of whom i doubt go to the game, for whatever reason, and do not see the whole picture on the pitch, i feel the man Tk And his dad raised expectations of top class signings this window and that hasn't happened.
Further, the head read the TCinterview in the standard and reading between the lines he and the manager do not see eye to eye on how we should be playing. TC advocates second half v brighton style, as any sane person would, CR believes in 5 at the back and the aimless lump. So head says, not room for much optimism unless CR, not my favourite manager at all, shows pragmatism and listens to the players.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't. You're right.
Matt, my go to quote.
I drum it into my kids.
Henry Ford.
I like you more and more
Here is another Ford quote, this time Henry, who had a lot of parallels with the Khan Kingdom's 'success' story although in markedly different direction. He said "The short successes that can be gained in a brief time and without difficulty, are not worth much."
Quote from: toshes mate on February 02, 2019, 09:54:05 AM
Here is another Ford quote, this time Henry, who had a lot of parallels with the Khan Kingdom's 'success' story although in markedly different direction. He said "The short successes that can be gained in a brief time and without difficulty, are not worth much."
Not so keen on that one, if I'm being honest
still hoping that we stay up .... a win today is another a massive boost and we are in midst of the fight for 17th spot. A loss will mean the opposite ... But scary enough that can be decided in 1 moment in 94th minute at either end ....
Using the traditional 6 recent games, Fulham are currently 12th in the Form Table, and Crystal Palace 17th...
https://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/formtabelle/wettbewerb/GB1?saison_id=2018&min=19&max=25
Palace are on a poor run of form
Quote from: rogerpnowinFlorida on February 01, 2019, 10:29:45 PM
A couple of wins will draw another 2 teams into the mix and give
us the 'will' to survive.
We've done this sort of things several times (promotion and beating the drop) recently
Just one more please.
Pretty Please
We have done all the head scratching on this and we need those two wins whilst those immediatly above us lose and then we need to match them point for point for the rest of the season. Throw in our atrocious goal difference and we could do with being the only winner from the bottom five in another weekend of fixtures.
It's a massive undertaking and ideally we have parity by the end of February so those forty minutes against Brighton have to be repeated today, at home to Leicester and Southampton away otherwise the gap will be too big as we enter those horrible fixtures in March. Ten to five today could be interesting.
NFR
Henry Ford - great quotes
But did you know he was a Nazi - tried to introduce ethnic cleansing into his early factories
Don't take my word - check it out
Oh dear, we have problems and it really is difficult to see how we can avoid the drop. Just that one positive of the second half performance against Brighton, if only we could continue this afternoon where we left off on Tuesday night then we could all be more confident.
The negatives are_;-
1. Six points adrift in the relegation zone
2. A poor winter window
3. Main centre back Mawson injured and out for a long time.
4. A defense with the worst record in the league
5. A manager with a quest for clean sheets with players regularly leaking goals.
6. The manager's tactics not suited to make the best use of available talents.
COYW lets have a good win today so that I can forget all those negatives.
Quote from: Baszab on February 02, 2019, 11:39:47 AM
NFR
Henry Ford - great quotes
But did you know he was a Nazi - tried to introduce ethnic cleansing into his early factories
Don't take my word - check it out
Absolutely aware of his anti-semitism since my father refused to buy a Ford car on principle. However, his care for his workers and his production line techniques were much admired universally (including Germany) and would teach many (if not all) modern day corporate owners a lot about how you can have both happy workers and very healthy profit. The sad thing is we still have rampant anti-semitism with very poorly run factories and very poorly treated workers too. There is good and bad in everyone and everything, unfortunately.
Quote from: filham on February 02, 2019, 12:04:32 PM
Oh dear, we have problems and it really is difficult to see how we can avoid the drop. Just that one positive of the second half performance against Brighton, if only we could continue this afternoon where we left off on Tuesday night then we could all be more confident.
The negatives are_;-
1. Six points adrift in the relegation zone
2. A poor winter window
3. Main centre back Mawson injured and out for a long time.
4. A defense with the worst record in the league
5. A manager with a quest for clean sheets with players regularly leaking goals.
6. The manager's tactics not suited to make the best use of available talents.
COYW lets have a good win today so that I can forget all those negatives.
If the belief shown in the second half of Tuesday's game carries through we may be only three points adrift and our gd (as apposed to goals conceded) not the worst in the league. I doubt CR's game plan is fixed in stone. I also think he's a canny bugger that knows how to get the best from his squad.
I'd prefer to be chasing someone down rather than looking over my shoulder. I think k we can do it :)
