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Guess Claudio missed how much better we were with 4 at the back trying to attack teams.
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Our manager is an absolute idiot, that or he is being paid to get us relegated
Completely ignored the 4-3-3 with cairney which scored 4 without reply.
5 at the back again. We could put 10 at the back and still concede when you've got bang average championship defenders.
He doesn't have a clue. He really doesnt
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well they did OK for the 2nd half against Brighton, surprised the 2 new boys aren't on the bench
5 at the back, Cairney on the wing and why not Vietto ffs. Bad choices imo. Nordtveit and Markovic not even on the bench because of the lack of training with the teammates I believe.
Was hoping he would start with the same line up as that that began the second half in the week. :doh: Is Shurrle injured?
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CR is insane, he needs to be examined by a doctor... to extreme, I do not think so.
5 at the back against place? ridiculous unnecesary gamble from an arrogant, doesn't know how to learn a lesson second rate joke of a manager. i suspect TC will not play 90 and be blamed for not working hard enough.... vietto just had to start.
I really hate the manager's team selection today.
I assume that it'll be Mitro and Babel up top with three in the middle. Otherwise he really has lost the plot
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i had been really looking forward to this and that just shattered now I am scarred stff. if palace score first we are in mega trouble this is Roy not houghton we are up against.
Benteke starts, Batshuayi on the bench for Palace
If cairney is playing on the right, I'm gonna call my mate at the home office and try and get raneri deported
Also Fosu-Mensah on the bench. Why???
Why the hell is TFM on the bench?
This makes me excruciatingly nervous.... but we live in hope.
Everyone wanted Cariney to start. He's starting. Let's see
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on February 02, 2019, 02:12:44 PM
Also Fosu-Mensah on the bench. Why???
Again. Everyone moaned we never have a defender on the bench. There you go.
Quote from: JoelH5 on February 02, 2019, 02:13:41 PM
Everyone wanted Cariney to start. He's starting. Let's see
not on the bloody right though, that hasn't worked every single time he has tried it.
Maybe he'll push Le Marchard further forward into the defensive midfield slot, there aren't
many other options apart from Cisse
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Also Fosu-Mensah on the bench. Why???
Again. Everyone moaned we never have a defender on the bench. There you go.
a bit miss leading to call him a defender.
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Also Fosu-Mensah on the bench. Why???
Again. Everyone moaned we never have a defender on the bench. There you go.
If we started with four at the back then Ream could have been on the bench. Also Steve Sess is better than Fosu-Mensah atm.
CR is spoiling it
he is spoiling my enjoyment because he is so stupid
all he had to do was start the 11 that finished, or the 11 that started the second half
they were brilliant, they showed what we can do, and he reverts to his useless, boring, losing 5 at the back methods that we are hopeless at.
he is ranking with the branfoot's in my crystal clear eyes.
the result is irrelevant today to the fact he has made a massive error of judgement.....
Possible that Ranieri is hoping to keep it tight in the first half and then surprise palace by a switch to 4-4-2 in the second half, which worked so well against Brighton.
Roy is unlikely to fall for such a plan.
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well they did OK for the 2nd half against Brighton, surprised the 2 new boys aren't on the bench
The 2 new boys are not match fit... Markovic hasn't played this season and Nordvelt is returning from injury..
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Quote from: bornafulhamfan on February 02, 2019, 02:12:44 PM
Also Fosu-Mensah on the bench. Why???
Again. Everyone moaned we never have a defender on the bench. There you go.
If we started with four at the back then Ream could have been on the bench. Also Steve Sess is better than Fosu-Mensah atm.
What is Sess being better than TFM based on by the way?
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Quote from: bornafulhamfan on February 02, 2019, 02:12:44 PM
Also Fosu-Mensah on the bench. Why???
Again. Everyone moaned we never have a defender on the bench. There you go.
If we started with four at the back then Ream could have been on the bench. Also Steve Sess is better than Fosu-Mensah atm.
What is Sess being better than TFM based on by the way?
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well he can't be worse can he. No point persisting with someone who you know is crap, over somome who might be good
Quote from: filham on February 02, 2019, 02:23:38 PM
Possible that Ranieri is hoping to keep it tight in the first half and then surprise palace by a switch to 4-4-2 in the second half, which worked so well against Brighton.
Roy is unlikely to fall for such a plan.
So go 2 or 3 nil down and try to turn it around in the second half?
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Quote from: bornafulhamfan on February 02, 2019, 02:12:44 PM
Also Fosu-Mensah on the bench. Why???
Again. Everyone moaned we never have a defender on the bench. There you go.
If we started with four at the back then Ream could have been on the bench. Also Steve Sess is better than Fosu-Mensah atm.
What is Sess being better than TFM based on by the way?
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Because he basically can't be worse than TFM. I think he was given many chances and he didn't use any of them. I was the first one that said he deserves another chance during the Arsenal match chat, and when he was given the chance he didn't take it again.
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Quote from: bornafulhamfan on February 02, 2019, 02:12:44 PM
Also Fosu-Mensah on the bench. Why???
Again. Everyone moaned we never have a defender on the bench. There you go.
If we started with four at the back then Ream could have been on the bench. Also Steve Sess is better than Fosu-Mensah atm.
What is Sess being better than TFM based on by the way?
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well he can't be worse can he. No point persisting with someone who you know is crap, over somome who might be good
Nothing then, thought so [emoji16].
Much rather have TFM who has at least proven himself capable at this level at times.
We're not in a position to be blooding youngsters.
Bet we win 3-0 now he's picked that team
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This is a must win game. We'll invite pressure more so if we score first and we'll concede without a shadow of a doubt.
He's playing players out of position in Cairney who doesn't work on the wing. Stupid formation.
Steady,some of you might have egg on faces by 4-45.
Coyw.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on February 02, 2019, 02:12:44 PM
Also Fosu-Mensah on the bench. Why???
Why the #uck, hasn't been considered since early Jan we been trying to get rid all January and now he's on the bench 093.gif
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 02, 2019, 02:33:34 PM
Steady,some of you might have egg on faces by 4-45.
Coyw.
totally agree some people have nothing better then to moan
I hope Claudio proves us wrong but his team selection looks wrong to me.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 02, 2019, 02:33:34 PM
Steady,some of you might have egg on faces by 4-45.
Coyw.
i hope i do, but history tells me i wont. how can anyone want to go back to the same crap that destroyed us for 45 mins against brighton. just when you think you have turned the corner, raneri goes and takes two steps backwards. how will a formation that failed spectacularly against brighton all of a sudden work against a far more talented team
Agree with the above & astounded that after the 4-3-3 worked so well, we've gone back to the old system which didn't. Take note of the awful TFM on the bench but Fabri ... why? Sub-standard 'keeper not in the same league as Bettinelli. Can only think the latter is injured, if not ... I just despair.
Quote from: Bracken White on February 02, 2019, 02:43:54 PM
Agree with the above & astounded that after the 4-3-3 worked so well, we've gone back to the old system which didn't. Take note of the awful TFM on the bench but Fabri ... why? Sub-standard 'keeper not in the same league as Bettinelli. Can only think the latter is injured, if not ... I just despair.
Betts confirmed injured on the official twitter
So not 1 person on here in favour of Ranieri's team selection, add me to the list!!
Interested to see the formation here and if we sit back or press high. A bit worried about the CB to Benteke matchups though. We'll see. Excited as always.
Quote from: Matt10 on February 02, 2019, 02:48:58 PM
Interested to see the formation here and if we sit back or press high. A bit worried about the CB to Benteke matchups though. We'll see. Excited as always.
Always the optimist on here Matt, I wouldn't use the word excited to describe how I am feeling, thirsty maybe!
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Quote from: bornafulhamfan on February 02, 2019, 02:12:44 PM
Also Fosu-Mensah on the bench. Why???
Again. Everyone moaned we never have a defender on the bench. There you go.
If we started with four at the back then Ream could have been on the bench. Also Steve Sess is better than Fosu-Mensah atm.
What is Sess being better than TFM based on by the way?
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well he can't be worse can he. No point persisting with someone who you know is crap, over somome who might be good
Nothing then, thought so [emoji16].
Much rather have TFM who has at least proven himself capable at this level at times.
We're not in a position to be blooding youngsters.
Bet we win 3-0 now he's picked that team
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proven himself capable? is that a joke. we tried everything we could to return him
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Quote from: Matt10 on February 02, 2019, 02:48:58 PM
Interested to see the formation here and if we sit back or press high. A bit worried about the CB to Benteke matchups though. We'll see. Excited as always.
Always the optimist on here Matt, I wouldn't use the word excited to describe how I am feeling, thirsty maybe!
It's all about balance, mate.
Brighton and Crystal Palace are completley different teams with different strategies. People think we can just copy and paste a template are kidding themselves. The key with lineup isn't just lineup, but how we approach it. A 5 at the back with deep line, or 5 at the back with a high line and a libero? Who knows. That's what I get excited about, unless we concede as early as Brighton though - yikes, the wrong kind of excitement!
So five at the back, Cairney out of position, precious little width and the lessons against Brighton ignored. You couldn't make this up.
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Quote from: Matt10 on February 02, 2019, 02:48:58 PM
Interested to see the formation here and if we sit back or press high. A bit worried about the CB to Benteke matchups though. We'll see. Excited as always.
Always the optimist on here Matt, I wouldn't use the word excited to describe how I am feeling, thirsty maybe!
It's all about balance, mate.
Brighton and Crystal Palace are completley different teams with different strategies. People think we can just copy and paste a template are kidding themselves. The key with lineup isn't just lineup, but how we approach it. A 5 at the back with deep line, or 5 at the back with a high line and a libero? Who knows. That's what I get excited about, unless we concede as early as Brighton though - yikes, the wrong kind of excitement!
At last some reason. It is a different opposition and a different style. We cannot simply play the same formation and players automatically as we are not that good. Cairney is playing and it is quite possible that he switches positions during the course of play as he and Babel did to good effect on Tuesday evening. I seem to remember both strikes against the bar came from him coming in from the right wing.
In 90 minutes we shall see but the usual complainants are out in force before a ball is kicked
8 minutes in and im already cringing at Christie....
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8 minutes in and im already cringing at Christie....
Yep, I'll quote myself. This comment aged well. Hes a absolute joke.
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Quote from: filham on February 02, 2019, 02:23:38 PM
Possible that Ranieri is hoping to keep it tight in the first half and then surprise palace by a switch to 4-4-2 in the second half, which worked so well against Brighton.
Roy is unlikely to fall for such a plan.
So go 2 or 3 nil down and try to turn it around in the second half?
looks like you will be getting your wish
Fans of this forum all correct, Ranieri wrong (again)!! Team selection, what team selection, might as well have thrown in the white towel at the kick off.
I don't care what formation we could have used today, we still don't have sufficiently talented players to perform at the Prem level. You can blame the defence, but there was no cutting edge in attack so the ball kept coming back.
Very true LE. We gave them more of a game when blooding all our new signings at the Cottage.
For what it is worth
I note there are a few of the usual suspects who will always, sort of, back the club and try to belittle the very reasonable concerns the rest of us have.
For instance, anyone with any experience of managing people, especially young men, would know that changing the line up from a winning formation, after such a long string of defeats, was likely to be a dreadful error with inevitable consequences. Worse it demotivates and confuses.
Any defence of what CR did is simply defending the totally indefensible. When i looked back at old posts i noted, unbeliveably, similar defence of magath, not the same but similar.
Before the game we pretty much all agreed same team, same tactics and in actality we got neither, and lost without a shot on target or a corner till it was almost over.
When slav stumbbled by accident on steph, kmac and TC as the way to go he had the sense to stick with it, not bu**er about with the line up.
I am stunned there are still people defending the totally indefensible. It does not help our team/club progress.
That turned out to be a terrible Fulham performance, hard to remember anything worse.
Can't see how Ranieri will now pick the players up for the Man. U. game. A change of players and tactics now becomes essential.