The 3 has players that have the ability to change our season; Mitrovoc, Cairney and Sessegnon.
He waits until 76th minute to bring on Cairney.
He waits until 80th minute to bring on Sessegnon.
I've had enough of his poor judgement.
Tony Kahn!? 1 new (injured) defender during the transfer window!?!!
Quote from: simplyfulham on February 09, 2019, 02:10:51 PM
The 3 has players that have the ability to change our season; Mitrovoc, Cairney and Sessegnon.
He waits until 76th minute to bring on Cairney.
He waits until 80th minute to bring on Sessegnon.
I've had enough of his poor judgement.
:plus one:
Fulham seems to have a habit of signing injured players. Well done son of 051
Whatever anyone thinks of managers, players, owners, officials etc., no one is a "cancer". That is a silly and unnecessary word to use.
As someone that has incurable cancer I do not believe it is appropriate to use the word in a flippant manner.
Nor do I. Totally unacceptable.
No point in axing Ranieri now. The club was holed below the waterline in the summer with a totally inept transfer strategy. Neither Joka or Ranieri could have dug us out of a hole of the Club's making.
not a fan of that expression but i think he has made the situation at the club worse.
Quote from: Plodder on February 09, 2019, 02:45:24 PM
Whatever anyone thinks of managers, players, owners, officials etc., no one is a "cancer". That is a silly and unnecessary word to use.
Yes you're right Plodder.
It was just in the moments after the final whistle.
I apologise.
Trouble is one has no faith that Raneiri can change in the Championship - Fulham have nothing to lose by ditching him now and bringing in Big Sam.
Quote from: simplyfulham on February 09, 2019, 03:48:08 PM
Quote from: Plodder on February 09, 2019, 02:45:24 PM
Whatever anyone thinks of managers, players, owners, officials etc., no one is a "cancer". That is a silly and unnecessary word to use.
Yes you're right Plodder.
It was just in the moments after the final whistle.
I apologise.
Let me work out how to change it the title of the thread and I will do so.
Quote from: Plodder on February 09, 2019, 02:45:24 PM
Whatever anyone thinks of managers, players, owners, officials etc., no one is a "cancer". That is a silly and unnecessary word to use.
you are correct it is nowhere near savage enough
the man said he watched fulham often and knew how to fix it
he then does not make us anything but worse
yes you are right the post you are offended by is nowhere near cutting enough!
with no offence intended to anyone in an unfortunate position with regard to the horrible ailment.
i have my own life threatening condition so do appreciate the delicacy BUT it is difficult to find appropriate words to describe the appaulingness of this man.
Quote from: Nick Bateman on February 09, 2019, 03:50:05 PM
Trouble is one has no faith that Raneiri can change in the Championship - Fulham have nothing to lose by ditching him now and bringing in Big Sam.
The players we have do not suit Ranieri's tactics, they would be totally lost with Big Sam.
Quote from: filham on February 09, 2019, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on February 09, 2019, 03:50:05 PM
Trouble is one has no faith that Raneiri can change in the Championship - Fulham have nothing to lose by ditching him now and bringing in Big Sam.
The players we have do not suit Ranieri's tactics, they would be totally lost with Big Sam.
This ridiculous big Sam nonsense is just that. But the sooner Ranieri is gone the better.
Quote from: Plodder on February 09, 2019, 02:45:24 PM
Whatever anyone thinks of managers, players, owners, officials etc., no one is a "cancer". That is a silly and unnecessary word to use.
I disagree. I think cancer is an appropriate word here. He is killing the future prospects of the club day by day
Quote from: simplyfulham on February 09, 2019, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on February 09, 2019, 03:48:08 PM
Quote from: Plodder on February 09, 2019, 02:45:24 PM
Whatever anyone thinks of managers, players, owners, officials etc., no one is a "cancer". That is a silly and unnecessary word to use.
Yes you're right Plodder.
It was just in the moments after the final whistle.
I apologise.
Let me work out how to change it the title of the thread and I will do so.
That's a decent apology, fair play to you, and no ill will from my part. I too have posted rash words in the aftermath of a defeat, which I later regretted.
Quote from: nose on February 09, 2019, 03:51:34 PM
Quote from: Plodder on February 09, 2019, 02:45:24 PM
Whatever anyone thinks of managers, players, owners, officials etc., no one is a "cancer". That is a silly and unnecessary word to use.
you are correct it is nowhere near savage enough
the man said he watched fulham often and knew how to fix it
he then does not make us anything but worse
yes you are right the post you are offended by is nowhere near cutting enough!
with no offence intended to anyone in an unfortunate position with regard to the horrible ailment.
i have my own life threatening condition so do appreciate the delicacy BUT it is difficult to find appropriate words to describe the appaulingness of this man.
At the risk of not following my own advice (think before writing), I shall make an immediate reply. If you really think after careful consideration that using the word "cancer" in the context of the performance of a football club manager is justifiable or sensible, then you need to question whether your "support" for Fulham has become so important that it has made you lose sight of what it means to be a decent human being.
Quote from: ffcthereligion on February 09, 2019, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: Plodder on February 09, 2019, 02:45:24 PM
Whatever anyone thinks of managers, players, owners, officials etc., no one is a "cancer". That is a silly and unnecessary word to use.
I disagree. I think cancer is an appropriate word here. He is killing the future prospects of the club day by day
Please see reply above to nose.
Quote from: Plodder on February 09, 2019, 04:26:27 PM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on February 09, 2019, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: Plodder on February 09, 2019, 02:45:24 PM
Whatever anyone thinks of managers, players, owners, officials etc., no one is a "cancer". That is a silly and unnecessary word to use.
I disagree. I think cancer is an appropriate word here. He is killing the future prospects of the club day by day
Please see reply above to nose. Take a look in the mirror and feel proud of yourself for likening someone to a cancer.
i looked at myself in the mirror
i thought about what mr ranieri is doing and the falsehoods he told to get the job
i think most people on the MB know I almost never, itf ever have used bad language or am offensive to anyone
i do not have the language to express my outrage at what is happening and actually the word is ugly and unpleasant and unfirtunately what the manage r has done and continues to do is ugley and unpleasant.
so as it upsets anyone this time i am off for good.
enjoy your PC world
Acknowledgement and thanks to simplyfulham for changing the title of the thread.
Firstly, Plodder is right.
If the January transfer window taught us nothing else, it was a reminder that there are far more important things then football to worry about. Cardiff, Nantes and Emilianio Sala's family can all attest to that.
Secondly, how appropriate the language used is shouldn't detract from the genuine discussion we should be having at what short term and long term effects Ranieri is having on this team. We should be concerned about the future of players like Sessegnon but also what message that sends out to the other young talented players we have on our books and should hope to hang on to.
Rainieri is not destroying the club. The first team squad and staff are simply failing in the Premier League. It's hard work surviving the Premier League especially for a club like Fulham FC.
Calm down folks. You seem to have the same problems every week. If it isn't the owners son it is the owner. If it isn't the owner it is the coach. If it isn't the coach it is a the players. If it isn't the players it is one of us who is to blame. This overreaction every week is no good for our hearts or blood pressure.
The point is that the mistakes are there for all to see and it isn't one persons fault but all of them.
The best thing the club can do now is build for next season in the Championship. We don't want to struggle as we did last time we were relegated. So lets just keep calm and make sure that we have the manager and system to offer us all some hope. Is it time to start building now? Yes I think it is. But let's try and remember that while we are frustrated this isn't a life threatening illness that many have seen relatives and friends suffer. This isn't a good excuse to attack each other or to ridicule one another or the club. It is a time to build for next season and debate what needs to be done. We continue to support the same side.
Quote from: simplyfulham on February 09, 2019, 02:10:51 PM
The 3 has players that have the ability to change our season; Mitrovoc, Cairney and Sessegnon.
He waits until 76th minute to bring on Cairney.
He waits until 80th minute to bring on Sessegnon.
I've had enough of his poor judgement.
If you look at the passing stats of any of our players and TC's is by far the best. He needs to start and in his favoured position, not wide right. Our passing today and in previous games was awful. Some of the best passes Man U got today was by a Fulham player.
I think this complete thread should be deleted. It's football people. Doesn't really matter.
I really thought CR was going to be our saviour. It was always going to be a big ask after Slav but he just isn't doing anything to even look like we are capable of staying up.
I can understand the starting line up today but those that started just looked like boys against men. Ream and Odoi are Championship players at best. The defenders we did bring in just haven't worked out. The signings we made did have a wow factor to most of them but unfortunately this must be the one occasion when throwing as much mud as we could and non of it sticking has resulted in an unbalanced under performing team.
In all my years I don't think I have ever felt such apathy towards Fulham and really can't be bothered to get as vexed as some of your guys and gals do.
I have no idea as to which manager who will come in and start to build us as a team. I am hating this season and can't wait for it to finish so we can move on.
Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on February 09, 2019, 04:37:29 PM
Rainieri is not destroying the club. The first team squad and staff are simply failing in the Premier League. It's hard work surviving the Premier League especially for a club like Fulham FC.
You may want to think again when the transfer requests come in from our better players like TC, both Sessegnon twins, Mitro etc.
CR has lost the plot, the dressing room and the fans. Were you there today?
Ray Lewington's name was mentioned earlier...we could do far worse than him by appointing another flashy big name failure.....
Quote from: nose on February 09, 2019, 04:30:19 PM
Quote from: Plodder on February 09, 2019, 04:26:27 PM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on February 09, 2019, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: Plodder on February 09, 2019, 02:45:24 PM
Whatever anyone thinks of managers, players, owners, officials etc., no one is a "cancer". That is a silly and unnecessary word to use.
I disagree. I think cancer is an appropriate word here. He is killing the future prospects of the club day by day
Please see reply above to nose. Take a look in the mirror and feel proud of yourself for likening someone to a cancer.
i looked at myself in the mirror
i thought about what mr ranieri is doing and the falsehoods he told to get the job
i think most people on the MB know I almost never, itf ever have used bad language or am offensive to anyone
i do not have the language to express my outrage at what is happening and actually the word is ugly and unpleasant and unfirtunately what the manage r has done and continues to do is ugley and unpleasant.
so as it upsets anyone this time i am off for good.
enjoy your PC world
:yay:
Quote from: ron on February 09, 2019, 06:20:07 PM
Ray Lewington's name was mentioned earlier...we could do far worse than him by appointing another flashy big name failure.....
Lew is a solid coach but he's no manager.
...then call him "Head Coach" and have a pen pusher do the other bits .... the important thing here is to have someone who relates to the players and understands the Ethos of Fulham FC.
That sums up Lew in my book..Fulham through and through.
OP - you are spot on !!!!
I don't care about relegation anymore but I do care about
The short term and long term future of FFC. The sooner this manager goes the better !!!
Quote from: Twig on February 09, 2019, 06:12:39 PM
Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on February 09, 2019, 04:37:29 PM
Rainieri is not destroying the club. The first team squad and staff are simply failing in the Premier League. It's hard work surviving the Premier League especially for a club like Fulham FC.
You may want to think again when the transfer requests come in from our better players like TC, both Sessegnon twins, Mitro etc.
CR has lost the plot, the dressing room and the fans. Were you there today?
Oh, I think we have some great players. They just don't go together well. That's one reason the PL is so tough... you just can't throw cash on any group players and think it will work.
Kit Symonds anyone? Fulham through and through. Knows the players etc. That didn't end well, did it?
Tom cairney has to start every match, he and Mitrovich should be the first two names on the team sheet, the reason I'm getting pissed off with Ranieri is because of his failure to start Cairney, who looks to be our only player who wants to create something. I also want Sessegnon to play a far bigger role.
Quote from: Fulham Joe on February 10, 2019, 03:57:13 PM
Tom cairney has to start every match, he and Mitrovich should be the first two names on the team sheet, the reason I'm getting pissed off with Ranieri is because of his failure to start Cairney, who looks to be our only player who wants to create something. I also want Sessegnon to play a far bigger role.
100-flipping-percent.
At this point, he's just being stubborn to try and prove some sort of point.
I don't want to sound like some sort of ITK, because I very much am not. But some friends and family do mix in circles with people or work for and play for the club. Ranieri does not sound like he is overly encouraging on a day to day basis and that's what's worrying.
If you are Tom Cairney, Kevin McDonald or even Stefan Johansen and you're sitting there watching Ranieri play 6 defenders and watching Calum Chambers play a pass out of touch for be 7th time in the game, you must be wondering what the hell is going on.
Quote from: New Kid on the Block on February 09, 2019, 11:14:10 PM
Kit Symonds anyone? Fulham through and through. Knows the players etc. That didn't end well, did it?
No way the absolute opposite to someone like Big Sam . Kit is a first class human being but not a good manager . Sad but true
Can anyone understand why Ranieri persists in playing the left-footed, central midfielder Cairney at right mid/right wing all the time?
Sarri now favourite for next PL manager to be sacked 11/10, Ranieri gone from 8/1 to 14/1 which means it probably won't be him next! (Damn it)!
Ranieri plays Tom there because his first name is Richard. :dft012:
Quote from: Hoppus on February 09, 2019, 02:26:00 PM
Tony Kahn!? 1 new (injured) defender during the transfer window!?!!
I think his first choice position is midfield but he can play in the back four, not that it matters a lot as he is injured.
