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Title: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Allestree andy on February 09, 2019, 10:26:03 PM
Look what man utd's did appointing ole gunner why not give scotty a go he has a good work ethic and knows how fulham work
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: hovewhite on February 09, 2019, 10:30:55 PM
I'm with you on that I know he's not very popular on this site,but I would trust Scotty personally far more than another off the manager merry go round!
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Dodger53 on February 09, 2019, 10:43:36 PM
God help us, we have gone backwards since he returned.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: HV71 on February 09, 2019, 10:46:47 PM
Let's give Scott Parker the heave ho would be a better title
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Milo on February 09, 2019, 10:49:08 PM
Quote from: HV71 on February 09, 2019, 10:46:47 PM
Let's give Scott Parker the heave ho would be a better title

Wondered when the first joke would come in. This was tamer than I was expecting!
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Sgt Fulham on February 09, 2019, 11:05:10 PM
Let's not.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: The Rock on February 09, 2019, 11:08:50 PM
This thread reeks of desperation. Desperate desperation. Just wow.

Parker is gonna be gaffer next week ain't he...
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Allestree andy on February 09, 2019, 11:15:42 PM
Why is it you lot don't like parker he always gave 110% so come on then who would you have
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: fulhamben on February 09, 2019, 11:38:28 PM
The php does not agree
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: The Rock on February 09, 2019, 11:40:46 PM
Quote from: Allestree andy on February 09, 2019, 11:15:42 PM
Why is it you lot don't like parker he always gave 110% so come on then who would you have

Love Parker, but he doesn't have the experience.

Then again we'll be in the Championship next year and Lampard has Derby in 7th or so.

I just had higher hopes. Sigh.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 09, 2019, 11:43:54 PM
I have no objection to Scott Parker, he couldn't do any worse, give him to the end of the season and see how he goes.
He may even give the youngsters a chance, he knows the players better than anyone else.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Statto on February 09, 2019, 11:49:09 PM
Being a hard-working player doesnt make him a good manager. May as well appoint some lad "who always gives 110%" working on the hot dog stand under the Hammersmith End. At least he won't be a jonah like Parker who turns everything he touches at FFC to crap.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on February 09, 2019, 11:51:05 PM
Sack Ranieri and take Parker with him. Arrogant twit ... FFC have been awful whenever he's been at the club
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: aaronmcguigan on February 09, 2019, 11:53:45 PM
Quote from: Allestree andy on February 09, 2019, 11:15:42 PM
Why is it you lot don't like parker he always gave 110% so come on then who would you have

If Scott Parker gave every effort , every blood , sweat and tear for the Fulham cause, busting a gut week in week out, inspiring a poor side to better results through determination , inspiration and motivation , he by definition would be only giving 100%... unless that extra 10% were the famous Parker Pirouettes

Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: ScalleysDad on February 10, 2019, 12:01:06 AM
We are lurching, at some speed, to the same scenario we had when the Magath regime came to an end. Club broken, team a mess, fans disillusioned and a saviour sought from the ranks. Crikey Mr Khan how on earth have you managed to oversee this scenario twice. Life lesson here. Learn from your mistakes or ask somebody who knows!
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 10, 2019, 12:13:23 AM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on February 10, 2019, 12:01:06 AM
We are lurching, at some speed, to the same scenario we had when the Magath regime came to an end. Club broken, team a mess, fans disillusioned and a saviour sought from the ranks. Crikey Mr Khan how on earth have you managed to oversee this scenario twice. Life lesson here. Learn from your mistakes or ask somebody who knows!
Yes I do feel I have been here before.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 10, 2019, 06:53:27 AM
Tom Cairney has stated that Parker is a terrific influence in the dressing room,what inspiring them to defeat?...Think Toms lost the plot now.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: sunburywhite on February 10, 2019, 08:25:40 AM
Quote from: Dodger53 on February 09, 2019, 10:43:36 PM
God help us, we have gone backwards since he returned.

I agree
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Sting of the North on February 10, 2019, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: Allestree andy on February 09, 2019, 10:26:03 PM
Look what man utd's did appointing ole gunner why not give scotty a go he has a good work ethic and knows how fulham work

If you try to think really hard on this, and maybe google around a bit (hint: he has manager experience), I think that you will find that Man United appointing Solskjaer is not at all very similar to us appointing Parker.

Us appointing Parker is much more similar to when we appointed Symons, only Parker is less experienced as a coach. Maybe he will be a great manager in the future, but so far the only thing we know of him as a coach is that he has been heavily involved with getting us into our current mess (maybe not his fault, but how would we know).
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Southcoastffc on February 10, 2019, 09:26:16 AM
There is absolutely no logic or sound reason for appointing Scott Parker as head coach at a PL soon to be Championship club.   What relevant experience has he had?
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: snarks on February 10, 2019, 09:50:22 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 10, 2019, 09:26:16 AM
There is absolutely no logic or sound reason for appointing Scott Parker as head coach at a PL soon to be Championship club.   What relevant experience has he had?

Yes quite right, lampard had no experience nor did Bruce when he got his first job, neither did Southgate at Middlesbrough or Robson. Pochechino at Espanyol, All Guardiola and Zidane had was managing reserve teams at best. The experience argument is nonsense but I don't think it's the right time to give him a managers job.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: fulhamben on February 10, 2019, 10:11:38 AM
Quote from: snarks on February 10, 2019, 09:50:22 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 10, 2019, 09:26:16 AM
There is absolutely no logic or sound reason for appointing Scott Parker as head coach at a PL soon to be Championship club.   What relevant experience has he had?

Yes quite right, lampard had no experience nor did Bruce when he got his first job, neither did Southgate at Middlesbrough or Robson. Pochechino at Espanyol, All Guardiola and Zidane had was managing reserve teams at best. The experience argument is nonsense but I don't think it's the right time to give him a managers job.
Southgate got borro relegated didn't he, and did such a bad job that no one would touch him for years until the fa gave him a job with the kids.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Andy S on February 10, 2019, 10:19:28 AM
O' I understand man united but they have a good team of coaches.we would be throwing a rookie in on his own. A caretaker yes but Parker no.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: davew on February 10, 2019, 10:19:59 AM
Quote from: Dodger53 on February 09, 2019, 10:43:36 PM
God help us, we have gone backwards since he returned.
+1, hasn't he been operating as a defence coach or advisor (lol)? Now we suggest appointing him to mess up our attack as well, sounds like a good plan (not)!
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 10, 2019, 11:42:12 AM
I have no objection to Scott Parker, he couldn't do any worse, give him to the end of the season and see how he goes.
He may even give the youngsters a chance as he probably knows the players better than anyone.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: filham on February 10, 2019, 11:45:44 AM
Yes, Parker is well worth a try until the end of the season, what have we to lose.
We have appointed ex Fulham players as managers before and the only real disaster was the great Bobby Robson, not sure that was entirely his fault. At the other end of the scale was McDonald and what a success that was.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Southcoastffc on February 10, 2019, 11:50:37 AM
Quote from: snarks on February 10, 2019, 09:50:22 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 10, 2019, 09:26:16 AM
There is absolutely no logic or sound reason for appointing Scott Parker as head coach at a PL soon to be Championship club.   What relevant experience has he had?

Yes quite right, lampard had no experience nor did Bruce when he got his first job, neither did Southgate at Middlesbrough or Robson. Pochechino at Espanyol, All Guardiola and Zidane had was managing reserve teams at best. The experience argument is nonsense but I don't think it's the right time to give him a managers job.
The experience argument is nonsense? That has given me a laugh on this gloomy morning!  I should perhaps apply to be the next James Bond, or an astronaut, I've no experience of acting or aeronautics but clearly that doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: The Rational Fan on February 10, 2019, 11:57:25 AM
Quote from: filham on February 10, 2019, 11:45:44 AM
Yes, Parker is well worth a try until the end of the season, what have we to lose.
We have appointed ex Fulham players as managers before and the only real disaster was the great Bobby Robson, not sure that was entirely his fault. At the other end of the scale was McDonald and what a success that was.

Malcolm McDonald created a great team (Peyton, Hopkins, Lock, Odosicoll, Brown, Gale, Davies, Wilson, Coney, Houghton, Lewington, Paul Parker, Leroy Ronsenior), but our owners had no money to hold on to them. It Broke my Heart, but now we can hold on to players.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 10, 2019, 12:05:49 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 10, 2019, 11:50:37 AM
Quote from: snarks on February 10, 2019, 09:50:22 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 10, 2019, 09:26:16 AM
There is absolutely no logic or sound reason for appointing Scott Parker as head coach at a PL soon to be Championship club.   What relevant experience has he had?

Yes quite right, lampard had no experience nor did Bruce when he got his first job, neither did Southgate at Middlesbrough or Robson. Pochechino at Espanyol, All Guardiola and Zidane had was managing reserve teams at best. The experience argument is nonsense but I don't think it's the right time to give him a managers job.
The experience argument is nonsense? That has given me a laugh on this gloomy morning!  I should perhaps apply to be the next James Bond, or an astronaut, I've no experience of acting or aeronautics but clearly that doesn't matter.

093.gif Please cease laughing Mr Southcoastffc, at least for one moment whilst you read my post sir. 093.gif
Going by your logic surrounding experience, then your first and foremost target should be TK, a classic example of how inexperience coupled with buffoonery riddled with errors of judgement, how does that grab you, because at least Scott Parker is a football person who knows what it's like to eat dirt on a cold December evening up at Turf Moor, does TK, do you know what's its like.
So for me Scott Parker should at least be considered, even just until the end of the season for damage limitations, and it buys time for the club to deliberate and consider their next moves when the season is completed.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: davew on February 10, 2019, 12:18:20 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 10, 2019, 11:42:12 AM
I have no objection to Scott Parker, he couldn't do any worse, give him to the end of the season and see how he goes.
He may even give the youngsters a chance as he probably knows the players better than anyone.
Oh alright then, you win!!
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Nero on February 10, 2019, 12:22:33 PM
If Mr Parker is such a good coach why are the team playing so badly, rather get Stuart Grey back to try and sort out the back line
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: filham on February 10, 2019, 12:27:08 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on February 10, 2019, 11:57:25 AM
Quote from: filham on February 10, 2019, 11:45:44 AM
Yes, Parker is well worth a try until the end of the season, what have we to lose.
We have appointed ex Fulham players as managers before and the only real disaster was the great Bobby Robson, not sure that was entirely his fault. At the other end of the scale was McDonald and what a success that was.

Malcolm McDonald created a great team (Peyton, Hopkins, Lock, Odosicoll, Brown, Gale, Davies, Wilson, Coney, Houghton, Lewington, Paul Parker, Leroy Ronsenior), but our owners had no money to hold on to them. It Broke my Heart, but now we can hold on to players.

Yes that was a very good Fulham team.  If only we could rejuvinate Gale and Brown from that team and put them in our current team our troubles may disappear.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Robbie on February 10, 2019, 01:04:48 PM
The usual mistake ... a good player makes a good manager.
I don't disagree with giving Parker a bigger role to the end of the season BUT to me this could just be another Muellersteen/Magath blooper
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: SG on February 10, 2019, 01:07:41 PM
Quote from: davew on February 10, 2019, 12:18:20 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 10, 2019, 11:42:12 AM
I have no objection to Scott Parker, he couldn't do any worse, give him to the end of the season and see how he goes.
He may even give the youngsters a chance as he probably knows the players better than anyone.
Oh alright then, you win!!

None of really know whether Parker is up to the task, but at the moment quite frankly anybody would be an improvement. There is no doubt that Parker battled as a player and if he could instill those qualities in this team for the remainder of the season it would at least be a little more acceptable. I cannot get over how weak and spineless we were yesterday
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 10, 2019, 01:14:03 PM
Quote from: Nero on February 10, 2019, 12:22:33 PM
If Mr Parker is such a good coach why are the team playing so badly, rather get Stuart Grey back to try and sort out the back line

By all means get Stuart Grey back, but in his absence I am suggesting Scott Parker who is already on site
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: snarks on February 10, 2019, 01:16:34 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 10, 2019, 11:50:37 AM
Quote from: snarks on February 10, 2019, 09:50:22 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 10, 2019, 09:26:16 AM
There is absolutely no logic or sound reason for appointing Scott Parker as head coach at a PL soon to be Championship club.   What relevant experience has he had?

Yes quite right, lampard had no experience nor did Bruce when he got his first job, neither did Southgate at Middlesbrough or Robson. Pochechino at Espanyol, All Guardiola and Zidane had was managing reserve teams at best. The experience argument is nonsense but I don't think it's the right time to give him a managers job.
The experience argument is nonsense? That has given me a laugh on this gloomy morning!  I should perhaps apply to be the next James Bond, or an astronaut, I've no experience of acting or aeronautics but clearly that doesn't matter.

He's got the coaching badges, I also said it's not the right thing to do, football management is different than being an astronaut, but for James Bond there is nothing to stop you trying. So the first time a manager is appointed to a club anywhere in the world where have they had previous management experience? The experience argument for not appointing someone is nonsense. CR has loads and hasn't covered himself in glory. Fergie got sacked from his first job why would anyone reappoint him as he was a failure? Yet he turned out OK. Bob paisley had never managed before he replaced Shankley.

Your statement has no basis in fact at all, but you are entitled to it. For the avoidance of doubt I don't think we should give Parker the job.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: Sting of the North on February 10, 2019, 01:36:21 PM
Sure, everyone has to start somewhere. However, it is strange in football that so many start out close to the top. Some make it however, although I assume that it is important that you start in a club where the upper management support and infrastructure is in a good place. That is not really the case with Fulham at the moment is it?

In any case, even if you do believe that experience is not important (which I disagree with, as it is generally one of the most important factors, although not necessarily needed), the most ridiculous argument has to be the "he was a very hard working player" argument. What on earth has that got to do with being a successful coach/manager? 
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: BigbadBillyMcKinley on February 10, 2019, 01:47:36 PM
Quote from: The Rock on February 09, 2019, 11:40:46 PM
Quote from: Allestree andy on February 09, 2019, 11:15:42 PM
Why is it you lot don't like parker he always gave 110% so come on then who would you have

Love Parker, but he doesn't have the experience.

Then again we'll be in the Championship next year and Lampard has Derby in 7th or so.

I just had higher hopes. Sigh.

Higher hopes? Such a a premiership winning manager? Who's managed some of the biggest clubs in the world? Those kinda high hopes?

I'd rather get Slav back. We should never have sacked him. At least we played sexy football. We don't now and still lose. So we've gone backwards.
Title: Re: Let's give Scott parker a ho
Post by: MikeTheCubed on February 10, 2019, 03:45:48 PM
Isn't Parker a married man? Not sure he needs a ho.

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