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Title: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Southcoastffc on February 16, 2019, 04:04:35 PM
Who, of currently unemployed candidates would be on your short list of, say, 3?  Assume Joka won't be. In no particular order I'd have David Moyes, Andre Villas-Boas and Giovanni van Bronckhorst .  (GVB not unemployed at the moment but has apparently said he's leaving Feyenoord this year)
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: grandad on February 16, 2019, 04:10:34 PM
Not Moyes in a million years.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Southcoastffc on February 16, 2019, 04:13:39 PM
Quote from: grandad on February 16, 2019, 04:10:34 PM
Not Moyes in a million years.

I love your positivity! 😉
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: grandad on February 16, 2019, 04:24:02 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 16, 2019, 04:13:39 PM
Quote from: grandad on February 16, 2019, 04:10:34 PM
Not Moyes in a million years.

I love your positivity! 😉
Positively one of the worst journey men managers.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: f321ffc on February 16, 2019, 04:27:25 PM
Former France and Paris St-Germain boss Laurent Blanc, 53, has hired a leading football agency to help find him a job in the Premier League.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Southcoastffc on February 16, 2019, 04:32:18 PM
Quote from: grandad on February 16, 2019, 04:24:02 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 16, 2019, 04:13:39 PM
Quote from: grandad on February 16, 2019, 04:10:34 PM
Not Moyes in a million years.

I love your positivity! 😉
Positively one of the worst journey men managers.
Oh terrible, with over 900 games as a manager and a win rate of 42%!
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 16, 2019, 04:45:55 PM
For me none of them, don't know enough about GVB to form an opinion.
AVB, would be out of his depth, his man management is poor.
As for Cods Eyes, amongst so many other reasons, he has an attitude problem and the last individual apart from Magath, I would not want to see striding through the gates of CC.
Plus he is currently occupying a fishmongers slab somewhere up in Fleetwood. He got transfered there after upsetting a Smoked Haddock in Grimsby.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Southcoastffc on February 16, 2019, 04:50:50 PM
Quote from: f321ffc on February 16, 2019, 04:27:25 PM
Former France and Paris St-Germain boss Laurent Blanc, 53, has hired a leading football agency to help find him a job in the Premier League.

Yes, I read that recently but that presupposes we will be in the Prem!
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: snarks on February 16, 2019, 05:07:35 PM
Conte
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Fulham 442 on February 16, 2019, 05:09:52 PM
Definitely not Moyes please.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 16, 2019, 05:12:15 PM
Mavis Blenkinthorpe,and her sssistant Ruby Tinkerbottom,currently have the Halifax Under 10's girls side unbeaten in 23 games.
Might be worth a shout.👱
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Nero on February 16, 2019, 06:11:05 PM
Montella is unemployed and available, why do they have to be unemployed by the way?
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: SuffolkWhite on February 16, 2019, 06:20:28 PM
I said ages ago Wagner, and the reason why is he knows the Championship and gets commitment and a good team spirit. But to be fair there is an element of luck for any manager in the Champ.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: bobby01 on February 16, 2019, 06:52:05 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on February 16, 2019, 06:20:28 PM
I said ages ago Wagner, and the reason why is he knows the Championship and gets commitment and a good team spirit. But to be fair there is an element of luck for any manager in the Champ.

I work with a terriers supporter who used to go up for every weekend game. He thinks very highly of Wagner and thinks with a club with a bit more money to spend he would do well.
I thought they played some good football in the championship, and last season did way beyond expectation but could not strengthen this summer.
So he may be a decent choice.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Jims Dentist on February 16, 2019, 07:10:01 PM
Wagner for me.
Has to be some one with a recent winning record in the champilnship.
He also needs to be able to select his own transfer targets.

To deviate from this would be to yet again repeat previous mistakes.

Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Milo on February 16, 2019, 07:43:59 PM
Mourinho
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Luka on February 16, 2019, 07:57:32 PM
Who in their right mind would risk having this shambles on their CV !!
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Fernhurst on February 16, 2019, 07:57:45 PM
Ok it's dream time.

Eddie Howe is Mr Bournemouth........ but if we show him the plans and offer him one of the apartments along with an attractive salary and a much better playing budget he surely must leave the 10k ground that is the Vitality at some point. England job is too early for him and his signing of Brooks, Nat Clyne and Lewis Cook are just the sort we need.
I know, I know ..... why would he leave the Premier League????? .....Well it is dream time
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Sir Alec of good Stock on February 16, 2019, 09:18:13 PM
Lee Johnson
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Camel Club on February 17, 2019, 12:00:30 AM
I think David Wagner would be the ideal candidate and would appear to be a pretty good fit for us. He knows the Championship well and what is required to get out of it. What he has achieved in English football so far has been on a far more restricted budget than he would have at Fulham and he would likely attract the right sort of players to the club as well.

I'd be interested to see what the club would do in the increasingly unlikely event that we stay up. Should the miracle of miracles occur and we find ourselves in the PL next season Eddie Howe (as someone posted earlier) could be a viable shout. With all due respect to Bournemouth he will have taken them to a level this season that he won't be able to repeat ever again. Despite his achievements there I still cannot see one of the top PL clubs going for him until he has repeated his success at a 'bigger' club than Bournemouth. That could be Fulham IF we survive this season.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: snarks on February 17, 2019, 11:59:32 AM
Really don't get the Wagner thing, we beat his teams easily in the championship when they got promoted with s negative goal difference. I would rather have Slav back with more say in transfer dealings.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Steven Ageroad on February 17, 2019, 12:11:54 PM
Quote from: Sir Alec of good Stock on February 16, 2019, 09:18:13 PM
Lee Johnson

+1
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: MJG on February 17, 2019, 12:51:25 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on February 17, 2019, 12:11:54 PM
Quote from: Sir Alec of good Stock on February 16, 2019, 09:18:13 PM
Lee Johnson

+1
why?

Could you tell what kind of style he likes his teams to play?
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: FulhamStu on February 17, 2019, 03:31:21 PM
1. Wagner
2. Big Sam
3. Montella
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Holders on February 17, 2019, 04:07:54 PM
Tigana
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Steven Ageroad on February 17, 2019, 06:00:15 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 17, 2019, 12:51:25 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on February 17, 2019, 12:11:54 PM
Quote from: Sir Alec of good Stock on February 16, 2019, 09:18:13 PM
Lee Johnson

+1
why?

Could you tell what kind of style he likes his teams to play?

A winning style, at the moment.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: filham on February 17, 2019, 06:42:17 PM
A big, big, risk whoever we appoint.  Just look at the managers appointed by Khan, not that good were they.

I actually thought Ranieri was a good appointment so I am certainly not going to make any more suggestions.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: MJG on February 17, 2019, 07:27:12 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on February 17, 2019, 06:00:15 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 17, 2019, 12:51:25 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on February 17, 2019, 12:11:54 PM
Quote from: Sir Alec of good Stock on February 16, 2019, 09:18:13 PM
Lee Johnson

+1
why?

Could you tell what kind of style he likes his teams to play?

A winning style, at the moment.
so nothing beyond latest manager getting good results or press then?
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: One Martin Thomas on February 17, 2019, 07:56:28 PM
I really like the football Alex Neal plays with Preston. They're stylish but aggressive! With a few quid I think he would take us back up !
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Statto on February 17, 2019, 08:00:09 PM
As far as I can tell Wagner seems to be the most popular choice solely based on finishing 5th in the Championship the season before last. Well Lee Johnson's Bristol have been there or thereabouts for the last couple of seasons albeit falling away towards the end of the season. If he gets them into the play-offs this season then for me, his CV is just as strong as Wagner's. And that's with the added difficulty of Bristol having 3 key players, Bryan, Flint and Reid, poached by bigger clubs in the summer. He also has the added bonus of being English, and not having walked away from his last job because he can't handle "the rigours of football management" (which is surely a pretty massive red flag for Wagner, by the way).

So Johnson wouldn't be my choice but I can't see why he should be behind Wagner on the list. 
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: jarv on February 17, 2019, 08:07:05 PM
I dont understand the aggression towards Moyes.  If he could turn Fulham into Everton everyone on here would be happy. Not sure if he can though, to be honest.  I have not seen any names mentioned which could do better than Moyes. 
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: jarv on February 17, 2019, 08:07:34 PM
Mark Hughes is available.... :005:
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: BigbadBillyMcKinley on February 17, 2019, 08:19:54 PM
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer cos, lets be honest, he won't get the united job.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Allestree andy on February 17, 2019, 09:20:05 PM
Quote from: MJG on Today at 12:51:25 PM

    Quote from: Steven Ageroad on Today at 12:11:54 PM

        Quote from: Sir Alec of good Stock on February 16, 2019, 09:18:13 PM

            Lee Johnson


        +1

    why?

    Could you tell what kind of style he likes his teams to play?


A winning style, at the moment.
Plus the fact that his dad and all his family support fulham as well as him so would give everything.
however i think wagner would be a great appointment
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Southcoastffc on February 17, 2019, 10:08:29 PM
I think that Johnson, Wagner, Moyes (Allardyce, though I can barely bring myself to type his name), all come into the unadventurous 'worthy but dull' category of appointments. I'd prefer a more imaginative far-seeing move, hence my suggestion for AVB or GVB (initals are entirely coincidental!). That said, we're probably all completely wrong.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: One Martin Thomas on February 17, 2019, 10:37:00 PM
Quote from: jarv on February 17, 2019, 08:07:05 PM
I dont understand the aggression towards Moyes.  If he could turn Fulham into Everton everyone on here would be happy. Not sure if he can though, to be honest.  I have not seen any names mentioned which could do better than Moyes. 

Everton were already Everton before Moyes arrived ! No one can turn a club of Fulham's size into Everton !

Moyes like Mourinho is old hat ! He won't get us up !
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: hovewhite on February 18, 2019, 05:32:43 PM
Slavisa.(don't think he'd come back however)
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: YankeeJim on February 18, 2019, 06:18:31 PM
There is a chap that is semi-retired up north. Perhaps he's up for a swan song. Some call him Old Red Nose.
Well, makes as much sense as others on here.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: @jolslover on February 18, 2019, 06:25:47 PM
Yh AVB would be unreal but he rejected us in Prem so why would he join us in champ?

Wagner would be good as would Karanka, Carvalhal would be good. Oscar Garcia would be good and I remember seeing CK say it was between him and Slavisa as the club wanted someone who could implement a possession based style. That's just managers off my head with Champ experience.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: HillingdonFFC on February 18, 2019, 06:44:36 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on February 17, 2019, 06:00:15 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 17, 2019, 12:51:25 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on February 17, 2019, 12:11:54 PM
Quote from: Sir Alec of good Stock on February 16, 2019, 09:18:13 PM
Lee Johnson

+1
why?

Could you tell what kind of style he likes his teams to play?

A winning style, at the moment.




Heard a Bristol City supporting sports journalist on the radio last week, his name escapes me. He said theyre playing some great football & Johnson has done a brilliant job after losing their 3 best players
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 18, 2019, 06:50:01 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on February 18, 2019, 06:44:36 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on February 17, 2019, 06:00:15 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 17, 2019, 12:51:25 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on February 17, 2019, 12:11:54 PM
Quote from: Sir Alec of good Stock on February 16, 2019, 09:18:13 PM
Lee Johnson

+1
why?

Could you tell what kind of style he likes his teams to play?

A winning style, at the moment.




Heard a Bristol City supporting sports journalist on the radio last week, his name escapes me. He said theyre playing some great football & Johnson has done a brilliant job after losing their 3 best players

Lee Johnson for me, I wouldn't touch AVB with a barge pole, the mans toxic.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: BestOfBrede on February 18, 2019, 06:53:27 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on February 18, 2019, 05:32:43 PM
Slavisa.(don't think he'd come back however)
Beg his forgiveness and get him in on a long, lucrative deal!
The owners would need to lett him have a bigger say in player ins and outs as they will trying to attract anyone.
Other than that get back the other best footballing manager we have seen (as someone has suggested)....
Jean Tigana!
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Luka on February 18, 2019, 09:32:15 PM
If OGS doesn't get the United gigg, he might fancy a stint in the capital.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: AnOldBrownie on February 18, 2019, 09:44:06 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 16, 2019, 04:04:35 PM
Who, of currently unemployed candidates would be on your short list of, say, 3?  Assume Joka won't be. In no particular order I'd have David Moyes, Andre Villas-Boas and Giovanni van Bronckhorst .  (GVB not unemployed at the moment but has apparently said he's leaving Feyenoord this year)

Please explain what management/tactical characteristics of David Moyes would make you want him as Fulham's manager.

Hell...I'd triple Joka's salary and beg him to come back before I'd even consider Moyes.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: jarv on February 18, 2019, 10:04:03 PM
 :Get Coat gif: 064.gif 049:gif  ok, forgive me for being a Moyes promoter. I agree with the rest of you now.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Southcoastffc on February 18, 2019, 10:09:57 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on February 18, 2019, 09:44:06 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 16, 2019, 04:04:35 PM
Who, of currently unemployed candidates would be on your short list of, say, 3?  Assume Joka won't be. In no particular order I'd have David Moyes, Andre Villas-Boas and Giovanni van Bronckhorst .  (GVB not unemployed at the moment but has apparently said he's leaving Feyenoord this year)

Please explain what management/tactical characteristics of David Moyes would make you want him as Fulham's manager.

Hell...I'd triple Joka's salary and beg him to come back before I'd even consider Moyes.
As said above, IMO he'd be a worthy but uninspiring appointment. But with over 900 games as a manager and a win rate of 42%, he'd be in with a shout.    Perhaps you'd please explain what management/tactical characteristics of David Moyes would not make you consider as Fulham's manager?
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: AnOldBrownie on February 18, 2019, 11:10:44 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 18, 2019, 10:09:57 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on February 18, 2019, 09:44:06 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 16, 2019, 04:04:35 PM
Who, of currently unemployed candidates would be on your short list of, say, 3?  Assume Joka won't be. In no particular order I'd have David Moyes, Andre Villas-Boas and Giovanni van Bronckhorst .  (GVB not unemployed at the moment but has apparently said he's leaving Feyenoord this year)

Please explain what management/tactical characteristics of David Moyes would make you want him as Fulham's manager.

Hell...I'd triple Joka's salary and beg him to come back before I'd even consider Moyes.
As said above, IMO he'd be a worthy but uninspiring appointment. But with over 900 games as a manager and a win rate of 42%, he'd be in with a shout.    Perhaps you'd please explain what management/tactical characteristics of David Moyes would not make you consider as Fulham's manager?

He's a reactive manager.   He reacts to the strengths of the opposition instead of developing a team identity and running with it.


Slav, on the other hand...even though he lacks Moyes experience, he has an identity.   His teams have a style of play that Slav wants to implement.


Whomever comes into fill Claudio's shoes in the Championship, I hope will have a distinct identity for the teams style of play and will make the other teams adjust to playing us.  Not the other way around.

imo.
Title: Re: Dream time - new manager
Post by: Milo on February 18, 2019, 11:19:26 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on February 18, 2019, 11:10:44 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 18, 2019, 10:09:57 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on February 18, 2019, 09:44:06 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on February 16, 2019, 04:04:35 PM
Who, of currently unemployed candidates would be on your short list of, say, 3?  Assume Joka won't be. In no particular order I'd have David Moyes, Andre Villas-Boas and Giovanni van Bronckhorst .  (GVB not unemployed at the moment but has apparently said he's leaving Feyenoord this year)

Please explain what management/tactical characteristics of David Moyes would make you want him as Fulham's manager.

Hell...I'd triple Joka's salary and beg him to come back before I'd even consider Moyes.
As said above, IMO he'd be a worthy but uninspiring appointment. But with over 900 games as a manager and a win rate of 42%, he'd be in with a shout.    Perhaps you'd please explain what management/tactical characteristics of David Moyes would not make you consider as Fulham's manager?

He's a reactive manager.   He reacts to the strengths of the opposition instead of developing a team identity and running with it.


Slav, on the other hand...even though he lacks Moyes experience, he has an identity.   His teams have a style of play that Slav wants to implement.


Whomever comes into fill Claudio's shoes in the Championship, I hope will have a distinct identity for the teams style of play and will make the other teams adjust to playing us.  Not the other way around.

imo.

Loved the game V QPR last year when they worked out the high press got us in an almighty mess!

Just remember Betts passing to Ream and Odoi who were practically pegged back into their own corner flags!