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Title: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: Steeeeeeeeeed on February 22, 2019, 05:45:17 PM
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/fulham/fulham-manager-claudio-ranieri-will-not-resign-if-relegated-to-championship-a4074161.html
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: grandad on February 22, 2019, 05:49:40 PM
Not his decision to make.
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: Twig on February 22, 2019, 05:51:53 PM
Then sack him.
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: jarv on February 22, 2019, 05:54:02 PM
Wonder how Tom and Ryan fit into his plans. Could be goodbye to them. The 2 best players last year.
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 06:01:01 PM
Quote from: jarv on February 22, 2019, 05:54:02 PM
Wonder how Tom and Ryan fit into his plans. Could be goodbye to them. The 2 best players last year.

And two of the better ones this year as well when given thew proper chance.
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: fulhamben on February 22, 2019, 06:06:24 PM
Of course he won't, he must know that no one else will be stupid enough to hire him after us, so he will be desperate for a pay out
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: davew on February 22, 2019, 06:14:22 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on February 22, 2019, 06:06:24 PM
Of course he won't, he must know that no one else will be stupid enough to hire him after us, so he will be desperate for a pay out
Let's start a whip round!!
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: hovewhite on February 22, 2019, 06:32:58 PM
With Khan's track record he will be given the bullet as can't see him being retained.
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: davew on February 22, 2019, 06:41:53 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on February 22, 2019, 06:32:58 PM
With Khan's track record he will be given the bullet as can't see him being retained.
In a straight jacket maybe?
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: hovewhite on February 22, 2019, 06:45:28 PM
Quote from: davew on February 22, 2019, 06:41:53 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on February 22, 2019, 06:32:58 PM
With Khan's track record he will be given the bullet as can't see him being retained.
In a straight jacket maybe?
he will still have his house in Fulham irrespective.
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: Robbie on February 22, 2019, 09:53:52 PM
Dreadful, get rid as soon as we can. The best song of the night was Ranieri is a Wnker.
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: the nutflush on February 22, 2019, 09:57:07 PM
Then we need to start preparing for life in League 1.
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: the nutflush on February 22, 2019, 10:03:05 PM
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/02/22/do-report-fulham-could-replace-claudio-ranieri-with-victor-sanch/

This just in.... Victor Sanchez anyone?  Hell I would take Lawrie Sanchez back at this point.
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 22, 2019, 11:59:32 PM
Quote from: davew on February 22, 2019, 06:14:22 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on February 22, 2019, 06:06:24 PM
Of course he won't, he must know that no one else will be stupid enough to hire him after us, so he will be desperate for a pay out
Let's start a whip round!!

Who has got a Whip handy.
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: bog on February 23, 2019, 09:01:39 AM
Just clear off now.

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Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: filham on February 23, 2019, 10:17:22 AM
That is bad news, seems as if it will get worser and worser then.
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: snarks on February 23, 2019, 10:26:48 AM
Raneri is not a bad manager, so far he hasn't got the best out of a poor Fulham team. However, given a transfer window with more of his input (as seemed to be the case given the reported targets in the jan window) if he's allowed to shore up the defence that will be a great start. His teams are built on Defence, SJ's team was built on possession, the 2 are incompatible
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: Statto on February 23, 2019, 12:33:41 PM
Quote from: snarks on February 23, 2019, 10:26:48 AM
Raneri is not a bad manager, so far he hasn't got the best out of a poor Fulham team. However, given a transfer window with more of his input (as seemed to be the case given the reported targets in the jan window) if he's allowed to shore up the defence that will be a great start. His teams are built on Defence, SJ's team was built on possession, the 2 are incompatible

You may well be correct but personally I don't want a team built on defence anyway, so he can still do one
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: Chutney on February 23, 2019, 12:45:32 PM
He is tactically awful, the fans despise him, the players seem to despise him. Why would he stay? Yet again shows how simple minded and out of touch with everything he is.
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: snarks on February 23, 2019, 12:46:39 PM
Quote from: Statto on February 23, 2019, 12:33:41 PM
Quote from: snarks on February 23, 2019, 10:26:48 AM
Raneri is not a bad manager, so far he hasn't got the best out of a poor Fulham team. However, given a transfer window with more of his input (as seemed to be the case given the reported targets in the jan window) if he's allowed to shore up the defence that will be a great start. His teams are built on Defence, SJ's team was built on possession, the 2 are incompatible

You may well be correct but personally I don't want a team built on defence anyway, so he can still do one

Neither do I but a stronger defence is essential regardless of where we are
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: MikeW on February 23, 2019, 12:57:47 PM
Chutney - I think despise is a bit harsh.

Everyone knew the focus on January was on defence.  We needed some resolve, some hard nosed, seasoned pro's and some bloody height.  We effectively got a bloke who hadn't made the grade at the hammers and arrived unfit and/or injured.

I cannot believe this was CR's fault.  We know where the fault lies - TK's bizarre criteria and - how many times have I said this - the scouting dept under Talbot.  I can only assume they are accountable to TK so effectively the blind leading the blind.

"Tony, I need a dominant centre half with lot's of Prem experience.

"But Claudio, Brian's sons best mate has found this Liverpool reject who plays mid field and he's cheap.  Mitro said when he was 14 he looked good.

"Great, sign him.  The answer to our prayers. Belissimo!

Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: The Rational Fan on February 23, 2019, 09:57:58 PM
Great News, we don't know next years budget if we go down, but Ranieri does. And, we know Ranieri wants the job and he wouldnt want the job if we were clearing out. Rumours are Schullre and Chambers are going plus Sessegnon will be sold but possibly loaned back. If we keep everything else with minor additions we should be solid.
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: bobby01 on February 23, 2019, 10:05:28 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on February 23, 2019, 09:57:58 PM
Great News, we don't know next years budget if we go down, but Ranieri does. And, we know Ranieri wants the job and he wouldnt want the job if we were clearing out. Rumours are Schullre and Chambers are going plus Sessegnon will be sold but possibly loaned back. If we keep everything else with minor additions we should be solid.


Wow, a lot of assumptions there.
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: Twig on February 24, 2019, 08:15:30 AM
Quote from: snarks on February 23, 2019, 12:46:39 PM
Quote from: Statto on February 23, 2019, 12:33:41 PM
Quote from: snarks on February 23, 2019, 10:26:48 AM
Raneri is not a bad manager, so far he hasn't got the best out of a poor Fulham team. However, given a transfer window with more of his input (as seemed to be the case given the reported targets in the jan window) if he's allowed to shore up the defence that will be a great start. His teams are built on Defence, SJ's team was built on possession, the 2 are incompatible

You may well be correct but personally I don't want a team built on defence anyway, so he can still do one

Neither do I but a stronger defence is essential regardless of where we are

Well thus far he has completely failed to improve our defence whilst tearing apart the more attacking side of our game.
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: toshes mate on February 24, 2019, 10:02:39 AM
Quote from: Twig on February 24, 2019, 08:15:30 AM
Quote from: snarks on February 23, 2019, 12:46:39 PM
Quote from: Statto on February 23, 2019, 12:33:41 PM
Quote from: snarks on February 23, 2019, 10:26:48 AM
Raneri is not a bad manager, so far he hasn't got the best out of a poor Fulham team. However, given a transfer window with more of his input (as seemed to be the case given the reported targets in the jan window) if he's allowed to shore up the defence that will be a great start. His teams are built on Defence, SJ's team was built on possession, the 2 are incompatible

You may well be correct but personally I don't want a team built on defence anyway, so he can still do one

Neither do I but a stronger defence is essential regardless of where we are

Well thus far he has completely failed to improve our defence whilst tearing apart the more attacking side of our game.
I would suggest possession and defensive resilience and solidity are important features regardless of formation and how a team is set up to play to that formation.  The sight of TC being chased down by three or four opponents suggests a number of our players were left unmarked because WHU were confident we had no working system, formation or tactics in place.  Ranieri was out of his depth the moment he arrived.  If we are going to turn this around then the required answers have to come from the players telling the manager what they think might work for them and putting in a bit of extra time in training working through a few ideas e.g. defence set piece marking regimes; making runs into space from midfield and crossing early and dangerously (which is where our goal came from on Friday). 

Ranieri appears to be going nowhere because the Khans do not have a plan C, for which we should be very thankful given what plan B has delivered.  Team power might just work in the remaining eleven games but it is all in the lap of the gods. 
Title: Re: Ranieri says He Will Not Resign if Relegated
Post by: Statto on February 24, 2019, 10:07:31 AM
If our owners and senior managers show ambition, leadership and sense, then next year the defenders available to a manager will be Mawson, Odoi, MLM, Nordvelt, Ream, Bryan, Christie and potentially S Sessegnon and/or even someone like Kalas back on loan. With Bettinelli behind them and a proper preseason to get to know each other.

It won't take a defensive expert to fashion a good Championship back 4 out of that lot.

The far bigger challenge will be unpicking teams that park the bus and play for a 0-0 draw.