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Title: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: Baszab on February 22, 2019, 09:06:08 PM
We need a goalie that commands his area
This  Rico is useless
Occasionally makes a good save - er... that's it
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: fulhamfever on February 22, 2019, 09:18:32 PM
Fabri was not given a fair chance
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 22, 2019, 09:29:30 PM
Fabri is no better, neither of them are good enough.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: john dempsey on February 22, 2019, 09:36:35 PM
rico makes kirally look world class ..
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: Nick Bateman on February 22, 2019, 09:36:58 PM
Rico is hopeless - I would put Betts back in.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: john dempsey on February 22, 2019, 09:38:57 PM
betts should never of been dropped
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: cottage expat on February 22, 2019, 09:44:39 PM
Quote from: john dempsey on February 22, 2019, 09:36:35 PM
rico makes kirally look world class ..



With or without pajamas ?
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: bobby01 on February 22, 2019, 09:45:29 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on February 22, 2019, 09:36:58 PM
Rico is hopeless - I would put Betts back in.

He has had a knee op, nick, out for the season unfortunately.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: MikeW on February 22, 2019, 09:59:49 PM
At one point we Bryan marking Diop and the keeper being clearly distracted (and fouling) Hernandez.  Why didn't we put a defender between keeper and Hernandez to relieve the pressure? Sunday League stuff!
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: The Rational Fan on February 22, 2019, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 22, 2019, 09:29:30 PM
Fabri is no better, neither of them are good enough.

Rico is better overall, but Fabri has different weaknesses. FFC needs a goalkeeper that handle a corner and come off his line, that's not Rico.

I'm bored with FFC making the same mistakes. Go Fabri 049:gif at least the kind of goalkeeping mistakes that leads to goals will change.

FFC own Fabri, so we either need to integrate him in to the team for next year or get him on the field so when we sell him we get a good price.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: Nero on February 22, 2019, 10:11:25 PM
We need a keeper that can help organize the back 3 4 5 or 6 or whatever formation we choose next week
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: ALG01 on February 22, 2019, 10:15:13 PM
Quote from: Baszab on February 22, 2019, 09:06:08 PM
We need a goalie that commands his area
This  Rico is useless
Occasionally makes a good save - er... that's it

From his very first game I said he  was not good enough because of a total inability to deal with crosses. I said it would cost us dear and it has.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: Nick Bateman on February 22, 2019, 10:23:45 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on February 22, 2019, 09:45:29 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on February 22, 2019, 09:36:58 PM
Rico is hopeless - I would put Betts back in.

He has had a knee op, nick, out for the season unfortunately.

Ah, a pity!  We would have done better with Joe Hart signed in January, unfortunately short-sighted transfer policy is costing Fulham it's PL survival.

Even the third goal he dived immediately rather than taking a step or two first. failing to reach a slow moving ball.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on February 22, 2019, 11:18:00 PM
Quote from: john dempsey on February 22, 2019, 09:38:57 PM
betts should never of been dropped

Give up. He is a mediocre Championship Gk at best. Was majorly found out in the PL.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: JoelH5 on February 22, 2019, 11:25:15 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on February 22, 2019, 11:18:00 PM
Quote from: john dempsey on February 22, 2019, 09:38:57 PM
betts should never of been dropped

Give up. He is a mediocre Championship Gk at best. Was majorly found out in the PL.

Correct. I think he's good in the Championship but not quite there for prem. I do really like him though. He's a great character and we need players like that.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: Nick Bateman on February 22, 2019, 11:28:50 PM
I would convince Joe Hart to join Fulham in our challenge to bounce back next season.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: Twig on February 23, 2019, 10:36:35 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on February 22, 2019, 11:18:00 PM
Quote from: john dempsey on February 22, 2019, 09:38:57 PM
betts should never of been dropped

Give up. He is a mediocre Championship Gk at best. Was majorly found out in the PL.

Sorry but I really do not agree with that.  He played behind a similarly dodgy defence that Rico has and both have struggled pretty much equally.  They have different strengths and weaknesses but overall their records are not dissimilar.  Personally I would go with Betts (ignoring the injury) because he deals with crosses far better, actually catching the ball. Given that we defend poorly on both flanks the current squad will always be at risk from crosses and corners so Betts would get my vote. Just my opinion but I would love to know why "he is a mediocre Championship GK at best"? Especially since he was a mainstay in a promoted club.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: The Old Count on February 23, 2019, 11:39:57 AM
Quote from: Twig on February 23, 2019, 10:36:35 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on February 22, 2019, 11:18:00 PM
Quote from: john dempsey on February 22, 2019, 09:38:57 PM
betts should never of been dropped

Give up. He is a mediocre Championship Gk at best. Was majorly found out in the PL.

Sorry but I really do not agree with that.  He played behind a similarly dodgy defence that Rico has and both have struggled pretty much equally.  They have different strengths and weaknesses but overall their records are not dissimilar.  Personally I would go with Betts (ignoring the injury) because he deals with crosses far better, actually catching the ball. Given that we defend poorly on both flanks the current squad will always be at risk from crosses and corners so Betts would get my vote. Just my opinion but I would love to know why "he is a mediocre Championship GK at best"? Especially since he was a mainstay in a promoted club.
The England manager seems to rate him as being better than a mediocre Championship player.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: Bassey the warrior on February 23, 2019, 01:03:09 PM
None of our keepers are good enough. If I was to drop Rico it would be for Fabri.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 23, 2019, 02:05:53 PM
I can understand the different reasons people are comparing all three Goalkeepers, for me Fabri is mediocre and too short to be the answer. I would prefer Betts when he is fit, but in the meantime I would like to see Marik Rodak play, at least we know he will get plenty of practice.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: Mitch on February 23, 2019, 02:11:20 PM
Quote from: fulhamfever on February 22, 2019, 09:18:32 PM
Fabri was not given a fair chance

Steady on.

Rico is a good shot stopper, but lacks in command of his area. Fabri wasn't really good at anything. Betts more commanding, but not as good a stopper as Rico.

Of the three Rico is the best, but he's also in poor form. We will always notice that more from a keeper than another position.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: Mitch on February 23, 2019, 02:12:05 PM
Quote from: MikeW on February 22, 2019, 09:59:49 PM
At one point we Bryan marking Diop and the keeper being clearly distracted (and fouling) Hernandez.  Why didn't we put a defender between keeper and Hernandez to relieve the pressure? Sunday League stuff!

+1 We don't react do we? If we're badly set up from the start, we're done.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on February 23, 2019, 02:34:41 PM
Quote from: Mitch on February 23, 2019, 02:11:20 PM
Quote from: fulhamfever on February 22, 2019, 09:18:32 PM
Fabri was not given a fair chance

Steady on.

Rico is a good shot stopper, but lacks in command of his area. Fabri wasn't really good at anything. Betts more commanding, but not as good a stopper as Rico.

Of the three Rico is the best, but he's also in poor form. We will always notice that more from a keeper than another position.

Great analysis on Fabri from 2 games 🙄
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: RaySmith on February 23, 2019, 04:09:58 PM
Earlier in the game I'd turned to the bloke next to me, and said he should have caught it, when he flapped and weakly punched at a cross, and nearly cost us.

His errors have cost us crucial goals, though his shot stopping and reflexes have also saved us at times. Unconvinced that he's better than Betts though.

Another very frustrating game, again - when we looked as if we could and should have got something,  but wre undone  by defensive errors, and failing to take the few chances we created.

I noticed, and wondered if it was significant, that the players all came over to clap the fans, though we were already heading down the steps to the exits - those who still remained at the end -- I've never seen so many Fulham fans leave early at an away game.
Title: Re: The more I watch Rico the more I see why we are so poor at the back
Post by: Mitch on February 23, 2019, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on February 23, 2019, 02:34:41 PM
Quote from: Mitch on February 23, 2019, 02:11:20 PM
Quote from: fulhamfever on February 22, 2019, 09:18:32 PM
Fabri was not given a fair chance

Steady on.

Rico is a good shot stopper, but lacks in command of his area. Fabri wasn't really good at anything. Betts more commanding, but not as good a stopper as Rico.

Of the three Rico is the best, but he's also in poor form. We will always notice that more from a keeper than another position.

Great analysis on Fabri from 2 games [emoji849]
He was poor pre season too. It wasn't just 2 games.

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