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Title: Seri loan deal
Post by: Hatch007 on July 18, 2019, 07:37:39 PM
Loan Deal For Seri

The Club can confirm that Jean Michaël Seri has joined Galatasaray on a season long loan deal.

The Turkish outfit also holds an option to make the transfer permanent.

We would like to wish Mika the best of luck during his time in Istanbul.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Sgt Fulham on July 18, 2019, 07:41:10 PM
Who?
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Maidstone Lee on July 18, 2019, 07:49:55 PM
Hopefully he plays well so we get a decent fee for him
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Hatch007 on July 18, 2019, 08:10:16 PM
I thought the club might just loan him with a view to returning to the squad for 2020/21 in the event we gain promotion this season but I guess they've made plain their feelings by incorporating an option to buy within the agreement.

Can't say I'll miss him. At times he showed flashes of why we paid the hefty fee we did but moving on in separate ways seems like the best course of action.

I believe there's better value for money out there in Seri's position.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Tabby on July 18, 2019, 08:14:34 PM
Galatasaray won't be paying that fee unless they win the CL, they have FFP troubles as it is. Hopefully he'll perform well so a club with money will cough up enough money though.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: The Swan on July 18, 2019, 08:21:38 PM
Lets hope that he signs for them at the end of the season
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Milo on July 18, 2019, 08:25:41 PM
Such a disappointment. Even more so because I always felt it was a lack of commitment rather than ability.

And yet, I was one of the group who kept thinking he would prove us wrong some day. Sigh! They let you down, don't they..
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Camel Club on July 18, 2019, 08:43:39 PM
Quote from: Milo on July 18, 2019, 08:25:41 PM
Such a disappointment. Even more so because I always felt it was a lack of commitment rather than ability.

And yet, I was one of the group who kept thinking he would prove us wrong some day. Sigh! They let you down, don't they..

Spot on Milo. Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: gang on July 18, 2019, 09:29:46 PM
I note that normally the club thank any departing player for their service to the club, not in the Seri case though.
Good bye and close the door behind you Seri.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Syd Cupp on July 18, 2019, 09:59:01 PM
Interesting club to join.
The way that Galatasaray supporters can react I feel that he needs to up his game.
He was poor for us and the Ivory Coast Media were not too happy with his African Nations performances.
He obviously has talent as a lot of big clubs wanted him but will Galatas get to see that the jury is out.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Penfold on July 18, 2019, 10:54:38 PM
Shame it's not a permanent deal. Huge disappointment, his early promise disappeared after the stuff about the fee etc. I suppose at least his attitude was honest as in being totally motivated by money.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Milo on July 18, 2019, 11:13:23 PM
Could his performance have been impacted by his financial disputes with his old club?

Or am I even now still trying to justify his performances when I should be facing facts.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Twig on July 19, 2019, 04:59:48 AM
Seri was a disappointment from the off. He never showed what his specific contribution to our midfield would be; defensive cover? Creative leader? Box to box? .....none of those, just a sort of bits and pieces contribution. Lack of commitment may have been part of his problem but so was a failure to focus and insufficient ability to deliver.
As others have said Galatasaray are unlikely to be able to afford him unless we take a big hit so let's hope he puts in some really decent performances in the shop window. Unlikely I fear.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 19, 2019, 05:04:18 AM
Quote from: Twig on July 19, 2019, 04:59:48 AM
Seri was a disappointment from the off. He never showed what his specific contribution to our midfield would be; defensive cover? Creative leader? Box to box? .....none of those, just a sort of bits and pieces contribution. Lack of commitment may have been part of his problem but so was a failure to focus and insufficient ability to deliver.
As others have said Galatasaray are unlikely to be able to afford him unless we take a big hit so let's hope he puts in some really decent performances in the shop window. Unlikely I fear.

If he proves to be a star, we will realise our problems were also in the dressing room and not just the recruitment office.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Classic94 on July 19, 2019, 07:42:46 AM
Surely one of the biggest flops in Fulham, and potentially, PL history. We move on.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: filham on July 19, 2019, 08:28:33 AM
Well that is Seri gone, who next Sess. or Anguissa. I am anxious to get this squad sorted without any further delay.

Does Seri leaving mean that Parker is free to bring in another loan player.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: I Ronic on July 19, 2019, 08:54:50 AM
I wonder how much the accusation levelled at his former club under-selling him to us has affected his mind set towards Fulham. If they did sell him on does that suggest he might have been a problem.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Holders on July 19, 2019, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: Milo on July 18, 2019, 08:25:41 PM
Such a disappointment. Even more so because I always felt it was a lack of commitment rather than ability.

And yet, I was one of the group who kept thinking he would prove us wrong some day. Sigh! They let you down, don't they..

I thought that he was committed at the outset but possibly became disillusioned by early results and the frailties of the team around him. Not that that's any excuse, of course, in any professional.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on July 19, 2019, 09:11:16 AM
I think it was clear from the start that Seri was here for the money. In his first interview he didn't even bother with the usual 'happy to be here, great club' cliches. He more or less just said we offered the most money. At least that's how I interpreted that interview at the time.

Who will be our backup for Cairney now? O'Reilly? None of the others have excelled in that role and we all know Cairney won't be fit for 46 matches + cups.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Statto on July 19, 2019, 09:17:36 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 19, 2019, 05:04:18 AM
Quote from: Twig on July 19, 2019, 04:59:48 AM
Seri was a disappointment from the off. He never showed what his specific contribution to our midfield would be; defensive cover? Creative leader? Box to box? .....none of those, just a sort of bits and pieces contribution. Lack of commitment may have been part of his problem but so was a failure to focus and insufficient ability to deliver.
As others have said Galatasaray are unlikely to be able to afford him unless we take a big hit so let's hope he puts in some really decent performances in the shop window. Unlikely I fear.

If he proves to be a star, we will realise our problems were also in the dressing room and not just the recruitment office.

I would treat it as evidence that he isn't up to the standard or suited to the style of the PL

He's effectively just dropped down to League One
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Statto on July 19, 2019, 09:20:22 AM
Quote from: gang on July 18, 2019, 09:29:46 PM
I note that normally the club thank any departing player for their service to the club, not in the Seri case though.
Good bye and close the door behind you Seri.

They have wished him luck on the website and social media. It's a loan, ie temporary, so I'm not sure "thank you" would be appropriate
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Maidstone Lee on July 19, 2019, 09:27:02 AM
Quote from: Holders on July 19, 2019, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: Milo on July 18, 2019, 08:25:41 PM
Such a disappointment. Even more so because I always felt it was a lack of commitment rather than ability.

And yet, I was one of the group who kept thinking he would prove us wrong some day. Sigh! They let you down, don't they..

I thought that he was committed at the outset but possibly became disillusioned by early results and the frailties of the team around him. Not that that's any excuse, of course, in any professional.

I also think the fact that the deal we negotiated with Nice meant he lost out on his sell-on bonus may have affected his desire to play for us. Results couldn't have helped either. Hopefully he does well out there so we can recoup as much as possible.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on July 19, 2019, 09:32:02 AM
Quote from: Twig on July 19, 2019, 04:59:48 AM
Seri was a disappointment from the off. He never showed what his specific contribution to our midfield would be; defensive cover? Creative leader? Box to box? .....none of those, just a sort of bits and pieces contribution. Lack of commitment may have been part of his problem but so was a failure to focus and insufficient ability to deliver.
As others have said Galatasaray are unlikely to be able to afford him unless we take a big hit so let's hope he puts in some really decent performances in the shop window. Unlikely I fear.


Agree!
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: HV71 on July 19, 2019, 09:55:12 AM
Who will be our backup for Cairney now? O'Reilly? None of the others have excelled in that role and we all know Cairney won't be fit for 46 matches + cups.

This is a very good point - there is very little chance he will be fit for all the campaign
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on July 19, 2019, 11:06:49 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on July 19, 2019, 09:11:16 AM
I think it was clear from the start that Seri was here for the money. In his first interview he didn't even bother with the usual 'happy to be here, great club' cliches. He more or less just said we offered the most money. At least that's how I interpreted that interview at the time.

Who will be our backup for Cairney now? O'Reilly? None of the others have excelled in that role and we all know Cairney won't be fit for 46 matches + cups.

You make it sound as though Cairney is crocked. Why, with the average amount of luck, should he not play 40+ games?

And what is wrong with O'Reilly or de la Torre as backup to come on when the game is won or play the odd game? How else are they to progress?
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Sting of the North on July 19, 2019, 11:08:23 AM
Quote from: HV71 on July 19, 2019, 09:55:12 AM
Who will be our backup for Cairney now? O'Reilly? None of the others have excelled in that role and we all know Cairney won't be fit for 46 matches + cups.

This is a very good point - there is very little chance he will be fit for all the campaign

Or De la Torre. Or StefJo. Or they alter the formation slightly if Cairney goes down for a significant amount of time. Ayite, Kamara or Ivan could play with Mitro for example in a 4-4-2. I just assume that Seri is too expensive and would be too unhappy if his role was to be understudy to Tom (which was never the position he was brought in for anyway).
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Lighthouse on July 19, 2019, 11:29:47 AM
We all wish him well and hope we can get some big money for him. But the truth is he never came near to the understanding the pace of the Prem, his passing was iffy at best. That has much to do with the players around him not creating space or not being clever enough. If he is allowed time on the ball and space then he is good. But most leagues don't offer that luxury. Too often caught with the ball and too often hurried into mistakes. He wouldn't make it is the Championship either. He never looked as if he was one of those players who could work and create for himself.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on July 19, 2019, 12:56:05 PM
Bye JMS. You and your awful attitude, lack of physicality, pace, drive etc wont be missed. Hope he does well so we can get our ££ back
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: ffcne on July 20, 2019, 08:43:32 AM
Quote from: Twig on July 19, 2019, 04:59:48 AM
Seri was a disappointment from the off. He never showed what his specific contribution to our midfield would be; defensive cover? Creative leader? Box to box? .....none of those, just a sort of bits and pieces contribution. Lack of commitment may have been part of his problem but so was a failure to focus and insufficient ability to deliver.
As others have said Galatasaray are unlikely to be able to afford him unless we take a big hit so let's hope he puts in some really decent performances in the shop window. Unlikely I fear.

Good analysis.Bits and pieces contribution.
Title: Re: Seri loan deal
Post by: ffcne on July 20, 2019, 08:47:15 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on July 19, 2019, 05:04:18 AM
Quote from: Twig on July 19, 2019, 04:59:48 AM
Seri was a disappointment from the off. He never showed what his specific contribution to our midfield would be; defensive cover? Creative leader? Box to box? .....none of those, just a sort of bits and pieces contribution. Lack of commitment may have been part of his problem but so was a failure to focus and insufficient ability to deliver.
As others have said Galatasaray are unlikely to be able to afford him unless we take a big hit so let's hope he puts in some really decent performances in the shop window. Unlikely I fear.

If he proves to be a star, we will realise our problems were also in the dressing room and not just the recruitment office.

Stop making excuses for him.Problems in the dressing room?