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Title: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 23, 2019, 01:57:53 PM
According to reports Villa and Bournemouth interested.
If it happens do Rodak or Fabri step in,or do we
go after someone else?
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: hovewhite on July 23, 2019, 02:05:25 PM
Another keeper.
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: grandad on July 23, 2019, 02:11:29 PM
Not seen these "reports". Can you direct me to them please.
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: twang on July 23, 2019, 02:20:10 PM
Would be daft to sell Betts, unless we get a crazy offer. Solid Championship keeper at a good age who knows and has played with every defender at the club.
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 23, 2019, 02:50:43 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 23, 2019, 02:11:29 PM
Not seen these "reports". Can you direct me to them please.

Read White JC Fulham Stuff.
Also on net and recent radio.
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: Peabody on July 23, 2019, 02:52:14 PM
Saying that he wants Premiership. Football
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: OldBrownShoe on July 23, 2019, 03:00:47 PM
Preferably a dominating keeper with experience and positioning and who can catch the ball, rather than punch it in the continental manner.
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: Twig on July 23, 2019, 03:02:48 PM
Betts is a shoe in as a top three Championship keeper and has the potential to settle in at Premiership level.  I hope he stays with us as I am not sure Rodak is quite ready and as for Fabri........no way.
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: sarnian on July 23, 2019, 03:06:53 PM
Quote from: Peabody on July 23, 2019, 02:52:14 PM
Saying that he wants Premiership. Football

He wasn't playing premiership last season even before his injury. Not good on crosses and his distribution is pretty dire at times.

Looks like just a rumour started on another board saying he has not travelled to Oxford.

Only time will tell
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 23, 2019, 03:13:05 PM
Quote from: sarnian on July 23, 2019, 03:06:53 PM
Quote from: Peabody on July 23, 2019, 02:52:14 PM
Saying that he wants Premiership. Football

He wasn't playing premiership last season even before his injury. Not good on crosses and his distribution is pretty dire at times.

Looks like just a rumour started on another board saying he has not travelled to Oxford.

Only time will tell

Good luck to him. I don't buy it but he certainly replaceable. 
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: junior white on July 23, 2019, 03:34:34 PM
If that's what he thinks, i say if, then perhaps he thinks he needs to to get back in the England set up. Personally was surprised he got called up in the first place. He is an adequate championship keeper, easily ok for any team looking for a top 6 positions, only reason to sell is if we have a good replacement lined up and we get a good price.

Not many keepers come and command their box these days, most of the top keepers these days seem to stay inside the 6 yard box and react than come for crosses (only seem to come out for 1 on 1's even then maybe not to the edge of the area so to speak). Betts isn't built to do what a keeper like De Gea does, he is slightly bigger than those keepers, he has the size to dominate the area but doesn't sadly. It will be a cas elf how you want to play dictates the keeper you have.

For me keep him this season he will help us up and then review the situation
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: JimmyConway on July 23, 2019, 03:37:16 PM
I have always though Bettenelli was decent but no more. His close reactions were his strength but crosses into the area i always thought he was very poor for someone with good height.
Only ever came for a cross if unopposed.
Good luck to him if he moves on and retains England call ups but personally think there are better out there we could sign.
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: Statto on July 23, 2019, 04:08:21 PM
Quote from: Twig on July 23, 2019, 03:02:48 PM
Betts is a shoe in as a top three Championship keeper and has the potential to settle in at Premiership level.  I hope he stays with us as I am not sure Rodak is quite ready and as for Fabri........no way.

Can't agree with that, sorry. Championship top 6 but only just.
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: Riversider on July 23, 2019, 04:10:57 PM
Villa don't want him , Jack Butland is their main target but stoke won't lower their price, and Tom Heaton is their second choice.
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on July 23, 2019, 04:13:38 PM
Respect what he's done for the club, but he wouldn't be a major loss.

Rodak would comfortably step in IMO.
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: FFC1987 on July 23, 2019, 04:14:24 PM
Quote from: Statto on July 23, 2019, 04:08:21 PM
Quote from: Twig on July 23, 2019, 03:02:48 PM
Betts is a shoe in as a top three Championship keeper and has the potential to settle in at Premiership level.  I hope he stays with us as I am not sure Rodak is quite ready and as for Fabri........no way.

Can't agree with that, sorry. Championship top 6 but only just.

I'm not convinced by that statement either to be honest. With form and adding consistency to his game, maybe but I feel he can swing from top 6 to mid table during the course of a season. I like him though and think he's got more to give.
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: filham on July 23, 2019, 04:17:09 PM
Don't really believe it. I like Betts and think he will do a reasonable job in the championship for us this season but would have thought a premier league side would have been looking for someone a shade better.

Talk of anyone leaving at this late stage in the window is always a concern as it leaves little time to find a good replacement.
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 23, 2019, 04:50:14 PM
IMO Betts is a good shot stopper but his distribution is poor and he's not commanding around the six yard box.

I've not seen Rodak or Fabri play, but there are a lot of better keepers out there available - Begovic at AFCB or McCarthy at Saints to name but two.
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: SuffolkWhite on July 23, 2019, 05:30:14 PM
Did we have a trialist GK in one of the friendlies?
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: Nero on July 23, 2019, 05:32:22 PM
If he foes to Bournemouth we'll take Bergovic, but I dont see him as a 1st teamer for either side
Title: Re: Betts A Wanted Man.
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 24, 2019, 05:37:06 AM
According to FIFA 19, the skills levels of each goalkeeper one year ago

J.Hart: 78 Overall, 79 Diving, 74 Handing, 69 Kicking, 81 Reflexes, 56 Speed and 76 Positioning
Betts : 72 Overall, 74 Diving, 69 Handing, 68 Kicking, 76 Reflexes, 34 Speed and 78 Positioning 
Fabri  : 80 Overall, 77 Diving, 80 Handing, 79 Kicking, 81 Reflexes, 59 Speed and 78 Positioning 
Rico   : 80 Overall, 77 Diving, 79 Handing, 77 Kicking, 81 Reflexes, 50 Speed and 80 Positioning 
Rodak: 67 Overall, 68 Diving, 67 Handing, 66 Kicking, 69 Reflexes, 51 Speed and 66 Positioning 

Although, obviously some errors as Rico is fast and numbers change in a year but these are interesting.


Fulham's problem is Fabri resale value has fallen enormously since the Tottenham Game, a few games at the end of last season would have allowed us to sell him, now everyone wants Betts.