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Title: First away win but
Post by: The Swan on August 16, 2019, 09:46:04 PM
First away win against a very poor Huddersfield side. We won't play against a team as bad as them.

Why do we keep passing the ball back to our keeper. Its going to bite us in the bum soon.

Arter was poor tonight.

A win is a win. Shame we could not score a few more as we could have gone top of the table for a few hours,
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on August 16, 2019, 10:10:16 PM
I must have watched a different game cos arter wasn't poor tonight yes he gave the ball away but when you show for the vall in difficult positions to help your team mates you are goin to give it away but i thought his positional sense and commitment were top class also showed great leadership which we missed last season
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: WolverineFFC on August 16, 2019, 10:37:16 PM
Quote from: Finnans Right Peg on August 16, 2019, 10:10:16 PM
I must have watched a different game cos arter wasn't poor tonight yes he gave the ball away but when you show for the vall in difficult positions to help your team mates you are goin to give it away but i thought his positional sense and commitment were top class also showed great leadership which we missed last season

No doubt. Nobody completes 100% of their passes and he did well with some very difficult situations in the middle of the park.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 16, 2019, 10:44:21 PM
and Harry Arters work rate is second to none. Even when he may not be having his best game, he keeps  working and continues to be busy. He takes responsibility for his actions, and will bite back, as opposed to players who hide under a blade of grass.
We have won an away game tonight which was a potential banana skin, and we won it well, and in style, and when we needed it, we won it ugly. The first 90 minutes is the most important.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: grandad on August 16, 2019, 10:48:56 PM
No but´s from me.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Robbie on August 16, 2019, 10:49:06 PM
Watched the whole game. I think we were good and made Hudds look poor. Good signs for FFC.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: bigalffc on August 16, 2019, 10:53:47 PM
Definitely no buts from me, we won away  049:gif :yay: :clap_hands:
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Baszab on August 16, 2019, 10:54:08 PM
No but from me

We made them look poor

Totally dominated even tho gave away a stupid goal

Mitro took a lot of punishment without much protection
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: JoelH5 on August 16, 2019, 11:00:21 PM
We outplayed them. They had one shot on goal. Getting better each game.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Jeroen on August 16, 2019, 11:03:31 PM
Regardless if we were good or bad, regardless if they were bad...
We won against another team that got relegated last season!

7 points out of 3 games is a good tally - I can Only imagine what Huddersfield fans must be thinking!
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Ordar on August 16, 2019, 11:08:17 PM
We didn't look like conceding at all. They got a lucky goal. We dominated the game. Our forward options are much better than the vast majority of this division
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: ByTheRiver on August 16, 2019, 11:10:12 PM
Saw similar comments after Blackburn. Good teams make teams look poor and, guess what? We are a very good team.

We'll keep 'not coming up against anyone as poor' all the way to the title. Watch.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: grandad on August 16, 2019, 11:10:16 PM
Last 2 games the opponents had only 1 shot on target between them.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Statto on August 16, 2019, 11:21:51 PM
Huddersfield are at least a top half team and really needed a win. Plus it was at their place. This was an above-average difficulty fixture.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: MaidenheadMick on August 17, 2019, 01:40:00 AM
Quote from: Jeroen on August 16, 2019, 11:03:31 PM
Regardless if we were good or bad, regardless if they were bad...
We won against another team that got relegated last season!

7 points out of 3 games is a good tally - I can Only imagine what Huddersfield fans must be thinking!
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I'd be delighted with 7pts from 3 games. Unfortunately, we've only got 6]
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Brawn on August 17, 2019, 01:52:31 AM
We're not quite where we need to be yet but we (should) be rewarded if we are patient. We have to accept Parker is not going to be the finished article in August and he'll get better with experience. It is a relatively new team and very few of them played in the same XI last season. Ream and Mawson, for example, keep tripping over each other when dealing with balls coming into the box; that's something that will organically improve over time as they form a better on-field relationship and understanding.

I actually felt we struggled to create chances (only two clear-cut opportunities; remember, both goals came out of nothing) and lacked a final product. Cavaleiro's goal was redemption for what was up until then a rather dodgy performance. I feel that we would be better off if we made a slight change and Cairney played as a 10 in a 4-2-3-1, not as one of 3 8s in a 4-3-3. We know he can't defend, so why he was playing half back at one point really reminded me of one of the main bugbears with Slavball.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: the nutflush on August 17, 2019, 07:01:30 AM
Our defence looked great apart from the goal we conceded which wasn't a shocker like every week last season. That back four looks good to me. Hope Mawson stays fit and S Sess will only get better with game time. He was terrific. We bossed their midfield and made numerous opportunities. Not sure what else you can ask for. If we have a good run with injuries I think we can go back up.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: the nutflush on August 17, 2019, 07:03:38 AM
Quote from: Brawn on August 17, 2019, 01:52:31 AM
We're not quite where we need to be yet but we (should) be rewarded if we are patient. We have to accept Parker is not going to be the finished article in August and he'll get better with experience. It is a relatively new team and very few of them played in the same XI last season. Ream and Mawson, for example, keep tripping over each other when dealing with balls coming into the box; that's something that will organically improve over time as they form a better on-field relationship and understanding.

I actually felt we struggled to create chances (only two clear-cut opportunities; remember, both goals came out of nothing) and lacked a final product. Cavaleiro's goal was redemption for what was up until then a rather dodgy performance. I feel that we would be better off if we made a slight change and Cairney played as a 10 in a 4-2-3-1, not as one of 3 8s in a 4-3-3. We know he can't defend, so why he was playing half back at one point really reminded me of one of the main bugbears with Slavball.

Cavs goal lacked a final product? I must have watched a different game. Gee whiz...
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Deuce on August 17, 2019, 07:16:15 AM
Quote from: Brawn on August 17, 2019, 01:52:31 AM


I actually felt we struggled to create chances (only two clear-cut opportunities; remember, both goals came out of nothing) and lacked a final product. Cavaleiro's goal was redemption for what was up until then a rather dodgy performance. I feel that we would be better off if we made a slight change and Cairney played as a 10 in a 4-2-3-1, not as one of 3 8s in a 4-3-3. We know he can't defend, so why he was playing half back at one point really reminded me of one of the main bugbears with Slavball.
Disagree completly about Cav, he gave Huddersfield defence headache throughout the entire game. Made a lovely pass to Mitrovic only for Gabara to make a really good save in what should have been a goal. And his goal, in that little space, at that point in the game, was absolutley superb. Terrific technique and touch. To have players stepping up at crucial parts of a game is vital.

Regarding Cairney. I think - and this is me guessing - he was deeper mainly because of the lack of pressing Huddersfield did. They didnt press us as much as Blackburn or Barnsley did, instead making things tighter further down their own half thus leaving more space further upp the pitch for Cairney to operate in.
When playing against a team that presses higher (and more) leaves more space between the blocks of the opposition, closer to their own goal, which is where Cairney finds space and Arter tries to break the press by playing passes vertically instead. Now this wasnt necessary, so Cairney could control the tempo in that area instead.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: RaySmith on August 17, 2019, 07:18:39 AM
From the away stand,the first half seemed pretty even to me, Hudds a threat, home fans very loud, though our away support, though quite a few gaps with the travel difficulties on a Friday night, was brilliant as usual, but the team stayed solid, playing it out from the back, even though it gave us near heart attacks at times, and upped it in the second half, and imposed themselves with real quality and determination.

But Hudds were definitely no pushovers.

What a difference in every way from last year's performance in this  game.
A brilliant away day evening for Fulham fans.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 17, 2019, 07:58:50 AM
Quote from: Jeroen on August 16, 2019, 11:03:31 PM
Regardless if we were good or bad, regardless if they were bad...
We won against another team that got relegated last season!

7 points out of 3 games is a good tally - I can Only imagine what Huddersfield fans must be thinking!

Huddersfield Town are no mugs, it was a credible and important away win. Nevertheless, An interesting 7 points, that should put us top of the table, did we get the extra point for winning games back to back.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Jeroen on August 17, 2019, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 17, 2019, 07:58:50 AM
Quote from: Jeroen on August 16, 2019, 11:03:31 PM
Regardless if we were good or bad, regardless if they were bad...
We won against another team that got relegated last season!

7 points out of 3 games is a good tally - I can Only imagine what Huddersfield fans must be thinking!

Huddersfield Town are no mugs, it was a credible and important away win. Nevertheless, An interesting 7 points, that should put us top of the table, did we get the extra point for winning games back to back.

Haha poo, yeah maths was never my thing - drunken posting is not the way to go!

Pint I was trying to make was what you said 'Huddersfield are no mugs' they just got relegated as well, so we're in a similar position. As us at the beginning of the season, but we now have 6 points (yeah I know) and 2 good performances to kick us forward this season - they on the other hand....
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: I Ronic on August 17, 2019, 08:53:32 AM
No "buts" from me either. There were very strong signs that players are begining to click together and work for each other. There were some great passes into space for players to run onto, which they did perfectly and clever running off the ball by Bryan gave Cav the space to loop that ball into the far corner.
Away from home, wet Friday night, against a physical team with good home support and we still stuck to the plan and played good passing football.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 17, 2019, 09:19:09 AM
Quote from: Jeroen on August 16, 2019, 11:03:31 PM
Regardless if we were good or bad, regardless if they were bad...
We won against another team that got relegated last season!

7 points out of 3 games is a good tally - I can Only imagine what Huddersfield fans must be thinking!

6 points.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: hovewhite on August 17, 2019, 09:57:52 AM
As usual fans have conflicting views on here,you can't please everyone,but 3pionts is 3 points.coyw
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: SP on August 17, 2019, 12:01:54 PM
Quote from: RaySmith on August 17, 2019, 07:18:39 AM
From the away stand,the first half seemed pretty even to me, Hudds a threat, home fans very loud, though our away support, though quite a few gaps with the travel difficulties on a Friday night, was brilliant as usual, but the team stayed solid, playing it out from the back, even though it gave us near heart attacks at times, and upped it in the second half, and imposed themselves with real quality and determination.

But Hudds were definitely no pushovers.


Always better to hear from someone who actually attended the match. As usual, I thought the FFC fans were great throughout. Fair play to anyone that travels to Huddersfield on a Friday night.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: filham on August 17, 2019, 03:22:35 PM
Huddersfield are not going to be a top six team and there is room for improvement in our team but we took three points from an away game which is an achievement and keeps us in the top half of the table.

A result like that in the remaining 21 away games and we will be thinking about promotion .
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: WindyCity on August 17, 2019, 04:12:44 PM
Quote from: Robbie on August 16, 2019, 10:49:06 PM
Watched the whole game. I think we were good and made Hudds look poor. Good signs for FFC.

Agreed FFC looked much better this game, particularly second half, but Hudd is a very poor team.  Agree with OP, this game shouldn't have been so close, and we could have walked away with only one point against a weak side if not for that great shot be Cav.  FFC still needs to do better on offense, and even though allowing only one shot on target (a goal) the whole game, I still think the defense needs improving.  Team does seem to be heading in the right direction though!

COYW!!!
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Matt10 on August 17, 2019, 04:31:27 PM
Our winner was scored from playing out the back FYI. Hudds didn't even touch the ball in that sequence.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Twig on August 17, 2019, 07:55:07 PM
Completely disagree with the OP and yes, we will play considerably worse teams than Huddersfield this season.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: MrFFC on August 17, 2019, 08:08:14 PM
Huddersfield are no mugs they have some good players they will be mid table.
We played well there is no need to be negative we showed our quality & deserved the 3 points
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Luka on August 17, 2019, 10:22:29 PM
I actually thought we made had work of finishing off an internally troubled Huddersfield side.
While I support  our perseverance of playing from the back, it will bite in the arse and very soon.
I'm happy that the back four that played last night are up to the task but Betts scares the Daylights out of me. He's slow in his decision making and his ball skills are very questionable.He is always just a moment away from disaster. A faster pressing side than Huddersfield will force errors from our keeper.
He needs to up his game big time or he will cost us dear in the end!!
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Denver Fulham on August 17, 2019, 11:22:00 PM
We caught Huddersfield at a great time. There's a reason their manager was sacked moments after the final whistle. That said, we also deserve credit for grinding them down and dominating the second half.

Arter had a number of bad giveaways and also got bypassed in the buildup to their goal, but I have no complaints about him. The workrate and care factor is what we needed in that role. He seems to have KMac's mentality but is younger, more mobile, better, etc.

I do want to see more of Harrison Reid, though. He's a very solid player. StefJo's going to have to do more for me to stay in the XI.
Title: Re: First away win but
Post by: Matt10 on August 18, 2019, 07:08:42 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on August 17, 2019, 11:22:00 PM
We caught Huddersfield at a great time. There's a reason their manager was sacked moments after the final whistle. That said, we also deserve credit for grinding them down and dominating the second half.

Arter had a number of bad giveaways and also got bypassed in the buildup to their goal, but I have no complaints about him. The workrate and care factor is what we needed in that role. He seems to have KMac's mentality but is younger, more mobile, better, etc.

I do want to see more of Harrison Reid, though. He's a very solid player. StefJo's going to have to do more for me to stay in the XI.

StefJo does a lot of the little things that we need. He also should've gotten an assist if Knock had finished his chance. Stef just hasn't got that freedom in Parker's system yet, but I do feel he is getting more comfortable.