Yes Yes Yes blah blah,you all think he's rubbish,well I don't.
Even if he's just on bench,he can fill in at fullback,centre back and midfield.
Would have been better than Odoi yesterday and the bloke who replaced Bryan.
To be fair to him he is a championship standard right back so could be contributing this season, for one reason or another not being considered which is a shame. I think he would have a point to prove if given a chance, same with Kebano, at this level not a bad option to have
The reason we lost yesterday was Parker took a defender off playing three at the back. He cluttered up the midfield. Mitro was still up front on his own.
Cyrus should definitely have been on the bench, yesterday. He is a very experienced championship defender and would have stepped straight in to the full back role.
In fact, he should be a starter.
Surely, there was a plan that if we were behind, to make one of the full-backs more attacking. It seemed clear to me, that our left-back would be marking Jarrod Bowen making it difficult for him to attack, so surely an attacking right-back was part of the plan. Why did we go into that game without an attacking right-back on the field or on the bench, especially as we have one? What was Parker's plan if we went 1-0 down in the first 15 minutes? Cyrus Christie is better than many of the right-backs in teams ahead of us.
Have to say he would have been better than MLM who not bad at centre half does not have the going forward ability, which was sadly lacking yesterday.
I do agree Christie is underrated by our fans and before joining us was one of the best RBs in the Championship - however he is extremely low on confidence and this has shown the last couple of times he has played - sadly I think his Fulham career is probably over
As for him playing at CB and Midfield? I have never seen him play in either position. Both Le March and Odoi are more versatile than him
Quote from: @jolslover on November 03, 2019, 11:50:22 AM
I do agree Christie is underrated by our fans and before joining us was one of the best RBs in the Championship - however he is extremely low on confidence and this has shown the last couple of times he has played - sadly I think his Fulham career is probably over
As for him playing at CB and Midfield? I have never seen him play in either position. Both Le March and Odoi are more versatile than him
Has played in midfield for Ireland.
For all we know, he's low on confidence and training badly compared to say MLM so Parker should be the best person to ask on whose more prepared to take to the field.
Agree, any team ending a game with; MLM, SJ and AK 47 on the pitch is going nowhere, is there nothing coming through the U23`s. Christie would have given more options going forward,
Never seen Christie play at right back, the only cover at left back was in fact Le Marchand, You can be sure that when injury strikes at the Cottage it is going to be at a place that really hurts.
Quote from: @jolslover on November 03, 2019, 11:50:22 AM
I do agree Christie is underrated by our fans and before joining us was one of the best RBs in the Championship - however he is extremely low on confidence and this has shown the last couple of times he has played - sadly I think his Fulham career is probably over
Not a big fan of him on a personal level but I have a lot of sympathy for this view in terms of his ability.
Written off by most of you on here for whatever reasons on this site,but is better than people think.
Quote from: hovewhite on November 03, 2019, 03:21:20 PM
Written off by most of you on here for whatever reasons on this site,but is better than people think.
Everyone here seems to think we need a player similar to Fredericks, when Fredericks left for more money. Christie is surely as close as you can come to a cheap mans Fredericks. Christie is the kind of right back, if he plays well then our season could change dramatically (Big IF).
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 03, 2019, 11:58:05 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on November 03, 2019, 11:50:22 AM
I do agree Christie is underrated by our fans and before joining us was one of the best RBs in the Championship - however he is extremely low on confidence and this has shown the last couple of times he has played - sadly I think his Fulham career is probably over
As for him playing at CB and Midfield? I have never seen him play in either position. Both Le March and Odoi are more versatile than him
Has played in midfield for Ireland.
MOTM in his last international game, as Central Mid...
Quote from: mlangstrom on November 05, 2019, 12:34:13 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 03, 2019, 11:58:05 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on November 03, 2019, 11:50:22 AM
I do agree Christie is underrated by our fans and before joining us was one of the best RBs in the Championship - however he is extremely low on confidence and this has shown the last couple of times he has played - sadly I think his Fulham career is probably over
As for him playing at CB and Midfield? I have never seen him play in either position. Both Le March and Odoi are more versatile than him
Has played in midfield for Ireland.
MOTM in his last international game, as Central Mid...
Anyone thinks Christie career is over, should realise that we cannot afford to have players better than him from May 2021.
I just can't fathom why he isn't in the matchday squad,has there been a fallout with the club over the so called incident with his sister?(Please no more comments on if or not it happened,we've been all thorough that).
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 05, 2019, 07:15:48 AM
I just can't fathom why he isn't in the matchday squad,has there been a fallout with the club over the so called incident with his sister?(Please no more comments on if or not it happened,we've been all thorough that).
a bit of clarity would be good from SP
I like him as a player, and thought he was great attacking up the wing in that home win v Brighton.
It's probably because he's not mentally up for it.
On the debate about Cyrus Christie, I do not think the the position of right back should be the only consideration. He is strong, quick, and given this I really believe he should be given a try as the right sided centre back.
Look how Chambers season was transformed by moving his position. For all those ex footballers out there I know how I enjoyed playing in different positions to gain a better insight on how best to play that position. Its worth a try.
As someone who was critical of Christie as 'a replacement for Ryan Fredericks' and can see why there is a sense of unfairness in him forever being labelled not good enough. I've watched him in all the games he has played for the Republic of Ireland (mostly midfield) and he is a reasonably good footballer although nothing special at that level. I still believe he was a silly TK purchase when news was out that Fredericks was PL bound with a.n.other, regardless how FFC concluded the season. He is not a Ryan Fredericks but he is most certainly a Cyrus Christie and seemingly cannot be any worse than some of the dross being served up in his absence. But he has had his chances in the past and passed them up. If nobody else can be bothered to make the RB position their own (and Denis Odoi is Mr Utility) and he knows what it takes to catch Mr Parker's eye then it is down to Mr Christie isn't it? ...
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 05, 2019, 07:15:48 AM
I just can't fathom why he isn't in the matchday squad,has there been a fallout with the club over the so called incident with his sister?(Please no more comments on if or not it happened,we've been all thorough that).
I'd be astounded if he wasn't being fully-backed by the club.
However, without going into "comments on if or not it happened", the fact is a lot of people are sceptical about that incident and it has adversely affected his connection with fans. He even came out and said the other day, "I know they don't like me".
I suspect his head is just in the wrong place, confidence is shot and/or he's being left out to insulate him from further verbal abuse.
All things considered, it would be good if all parties could just move on because he's clearly a solid Championship right back when on form.
Quote from: Statto on November 05, 2019, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 05, 2019, 07:15:48 AM
I just can't fathom why he isn't in the matchday squad,has there been a fallout with the club over the so called incident with his sister?(Please no more comments on if or not it happened,we've been all thorough that).
I'd be astounded if he wasn't being fully-backed by the club.
However, without going into "comments on if or not it happened", the fact is a lot of people are sceptical about that incident and it has adversely affected his connection with fans. He even came out and said the other day, "I know they don't like me".
I suspect his head is just in the wrong place, confidence is shot and/or he's being left out to insulate him from further verbal abuse.
All things considered, it would be good if all parties could just move on because he's clearly a solid Championship right back when on form.
I wouldn't be surprised if he's said he doesn't want to play as head isn't right and atmosphere toxic. I believe he has similar problems in the past.
After two goaless games our priority against Birmingham must be a goal or two.
Christie with his pace down the right flank could help our cause.
I think it is widely accepted on this forum that we haven't found a solution at right back this season. I have seen it mentioned in a number of posts that Cyrus Christie is considered a decent Championship defender to which I agree.
Our entire defence struggled last season yet the likes of Odoi, Ream, and Bettinelli have been getting consistent game time this season. Le Marchand less so and not really a surprise. For some reason Christie is being left out of match day squads on a regular basis. He hasn't started a match this season and has only had two substitute appearances totalling 60 minutes. I'd like to know why he isn't being selected because he's exactly what we need at the moment. He's got a bit of pace and likes to get forward.
I'd like to see Christie at right back and Rodak reinstated in goal against Birmingham.
Going back to saturday the easy thing to do was put odoi at left ful and nring on sess or failing that put harrision right full and bring on kev (just going by the bench we had ).
I do agree that cyrus should have been on the bench has he can cover a few postions and is a better option then mlm
