The more I see of him the less I am impressed, poor defending for all 3 goals yesterday, and generally weak and out of position continually. I really thought we had signed a top notch defender, lack of fitness and injuries can no longer be an excuse.
Agreed. Unfortunately, he is not alone is this drastic drop in form.
Agree, When we signed him for 15m I thought we were getting a premier league quality defender but Ream he's failing to look solid even in the Championship
Mawson was appalling for their second goal yesterday
I can't tell if Mawson is just a bad player, unfit still, or just can't be arsed to be playing in the championship....
Quote from: FFC1987 on November 03, 2019, 12:05:43 PM
I can't tell if Mawson is just a bad player, unfit still, or just can't be arsed to be playing in the championship....
I worryingly agree with this ....
It is beginning to look as if Mawson is following in the footsteps of Spearman and that Icelandic international. Big money signings who arrived with a good reputation and then failed us. Have we had a good centre back since Hughes and Hangeland, I think the best has been Dan Burns who we let go for a song.
Still think he's our best defender (defensively) but gets judged far more harshly because of his price tag.
Putting price to one side, Ream, Bryan and Odoi make significantly more errors, and opposition strikers invariably elect to stand near one of those three rather than Mawson, for good reason.
I agree he still hasn't been great but none of our players have. The answer is either that we have about 15 individuals all coincidentally and suddenly becoming worse than they've been in their careers to date for their own independent, personal reasons... or that we have a team-wide problem with the manager/tactics/morale
We look more secure with ream and odoi
Defenately at fault for first two goals. Needs to work on his decision making.
Quote from: Statto on November 03, 2019, 12:27:40 PM
The answer is either that we have about 15 individuals all coincidentally and suddenly becoming worse than they've been in their careers to date for their own independent, personal reasons... or that we have a team-wide problem with the manager/tactics/morale
Absolutely brilliantly put, i have long suggested we had the same problem last season; the only difference is "last seasons players" suddenly got worse when they changed "teams into a new league"; and "this seasons players" suddenly got worse when they changed "teams in the same league". In addition, it seems Norwood and Anguissa also suddenly got better moving into another team. Why is Motspur Park or the Fulham Jersey like Kryptonite? Why did players like Seri demand to leave etc?
He looks slow and unfit like much of our squad. They are all too big.
He was awful yesterday but perhaps our best player (IMO) against Boro. Very inconsistent but I still think he's better than Ream. At least at actual defending. But what has happened to his goal scoring record? He scored regularly for all his previous clubs, even in the PL. It feels like we're not taking full advantage of his strengths at set pieces.
The first goal yesterday was 100% down to Le Marchand who failed to deal with the cross. For the second both Mawson and Bettinelli could've done better and the third Ream could've done better. IMO Mawson is our best central defender. Sure, he's not perfect but he wasn't responsible for all 3 goals yesterday. Looking forward to him pairing up with Hector in January because we will continue to struggle at the back with Bettinelli, Ream, Odoi and Le Marchand.
Quote from: Robbie on November 03, 2019, 01:15:41 PM
He looks slow and unfit like much of our squad. They are all too big.
Is it time to try a youngster at centre back ? Looking at Leeds and PNE they have young fit squads and not over paid heavyweights !
Have we not got a kid better than LeMarchand ? I don't believe we don't ....
Quote from: Bill2 on November 03, 2019, 01:06:38 PM
Defenately at fault for first two goals. Needs to work on his decision making.
The player at fault for the 1st goal was Betts he could have gone for the cross but he once again bottled it🙄🙄🙄
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on November 03, 2019, 02:23:29 PM
Have we not got a kid better than LeMarchand ? I don't believe we don't ....
So we do then? Who is it?
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Quote from: KJS on November 03, 2019, 03:26:03 PM
Quote from: Bill2 on November 03, 2019, 01:06:38 PM
Defenately at fault for first two goals. Needs to work on his decision making.
The player at fault for the 1st goal was Betts he could have gone for the cross but he once again bottled it🙄🙄🙄
:) Disagree. Mawson dived in on the right, unnecessarily and poorly, leaving the Hull player free to hit a cross beyond the far post. MLM didn't react when the ball came off him and Bowler, the goal scorer. They, not Bettinelli, are culpable.
1st goal is down to Le Marchand.
Dreadful position. I think he thought he was playing CB instead of Left back.
Mawson shouts at him as he is getting back into the box to move back and cover the guy completely free on the back stick.
But he doesn't.
He is simply not a Championship, let alone EPL qualityy player.
On that performance he is also not good enough as a substitute.
I agree Mawson was rash in the center of the park diving in.
But he was back in the box way before the cross to the back stick.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on November 03, 2019, 06:35:26 PM
1st goal is down to Le Marchand.
Dreadful position. I think he thought he was playing CB instead of Left back.
Mawson shouts at him as he is getting back into the box to move back and cover the guy completely free on the back stick.
But he doesn't.
He is simply not a Championship, let alone EPL qualityy player.
On that performance he is also not good enough as a substitute.
I agree Mawson was rash in the center of the park diving in.
But he was back in the box way before the cross to the back stick.
Down to both imo. Poor initial decision from Mawson and then Le Marchand beaten too easily. Also not sure if Le Marchand wasn't given a discreet little shove just as the ball was being crossed. But he has to be stronger and as a centre half should have covered it.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on November 03, 2019, 06:35:26 PM
1st goal is down to Le Marchand.
Dreadful position. I think he thought he was playing CB instead of Left back.
Mawson shouts at him as he is getting back into the box to move back and cover the guy completely free on the back stick.
But he doesn't.
He is simply not a Championship, let alone EPL qualityy player.
On that performance he is also not good enough as a substitute.
I agree Mawson was rash in the center of the park diving in.
But he was back in the box way before the cross to the back stick.
So by that I am guessing Le Marchand is not one of the squad who would walk into any other Championship side? If I might expand on that point Christie has rarely been deemed good enough, Sess needed to develop and might take a while to nail down a role in our defence and Ream and Kmac have been deemed too slow at key moments. That leaves Odoi and Bryan who have their own jitters, although Bryan contributes going forward, and a keeper who many want to replace.
No wonder Mawson looks average. He is not blameless of course but the fact that he went for the challenge, attempted to rectify the situation and tried to command the area still puts him ahead of the rest of the defensive unit. I wonder if a new partner and a defensive midfielder in front of this new pairing will bring back the fine form he showed at Swansea and the flirtation with the England set up.
Rubbish result yesterday but contrary to the opinions of many on here this is not a great team Parker and co are working with.
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 03, 2019, 08:59:01 PM
So by that I am guessing Le Marchand is not one of the squad who would walk into any other Championship side?
Quite right.
But Le Marchand should be our 4th choice CB (5th when Hector arrives) and 3rd choice LB.
It would be quite something if even our 3rd and 4th string players would walk into any other Championship side.
But no doubt even then, some would defend Parker if we were mid-table.
Quote from: Statto on November 03, 2019, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 03, 2019, 08:59:01 PM
So by that I am guessing Le Marchand is not one of the squad who would walk into any other Championship side?
Quite right.
But Le Marchand should be our 4th choice CB (5th when Hector arrives) and 3rd choice LB.
It would be quite something if even our 3rd and 4th string players would walk into any other Championship side.
But no doubt even then, some would defend Parker if we were mid-table.
I'll not defend Parkers tactical naivety or his stubbornness if he fails to learn from his mistakes, same as I did'nt support JOka, but the materials he has to work with are not great if the third choice has to be used in this vital position.
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 03, 2019, 08:59:01 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on November 03, 2019, 06:35:26 PM
1st goal is down to Le Marchand.
Dreadful position. I think he thought he was playing CB instead of Left back.
Mawson shouts at him as he is getting back into the box to move back and cover the guy completely free on the back stick.
But he doesn't.
He is simply not a Championship, let alone EPL qualityy player.
On that performance he is also not good enough as a substitute.
I agree Mawson was rash in the center of the park diving in.
But he was back in the box way before the cross to the back stick.
So by that I am guessing Le Marchand is not one of the squad who would walk into any other Championship side? If I might expand on that point Christie has rarely been deemed good enough, Sess needed to develop and might take a while to nail down a role in our defence and Ream and Kmac have been deemed too slow at key moments. That leaves Odoi and Bryan who have their own jitters, although Bryan contributes going forward, and a keeper who many want to replace.
No wonder Mawson looks average. He is not blameless of course but the fact that he went for the challenge, attempted to rectify the situation and tried to command the area still puts him ahead of the rest of the defensive unit. I wonder if a new partner and a defensive midfielder in front of this new pairing will bring back the fine form he showed at Swansea and the flirtation with the England set up.
Rubbish result yesterday but contrary to the opinions of many on here this is not a great team Parker and co are working with.
Personally, I believe Mawson to be ok.
I tend to judge CB pairings rather than in the singular. As it is the way a CB pair work together that matters most imo.
The fact he made the decision to stop the attack early was good. But once it transpired he missed the interception, he still had the gumption to race back into position and try to correct LeMarchand's inadequacy shows promise.
Tbh, I don't agree with a lot of the criticism Mawson receives on here. He has leadership qualities imo.
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 03, 2019, 04:22:45 PM
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on November 03, 2019, 02:23:29 PM
Have we not got a kid better than LeMarchand ? I don't believe we don't ....
So we do then? Who is it?
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Which one of the u23 backs that conceded more than three goals each against West Ham, West Brom, Reading and Middlesbough do you recommend?
Just rewatched the Hull match. Agree Mawson has been having some really bad games. Didn't think Ream was that bad. MLM had no clue and was out of his depth which is a shame as I do like him. Betts....I still support him when he is in the starting X1 but he does look shaky and perhaps has lost some of his confidence.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 03, 2019, 10:37:33 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 03, 2019, 04:22:45 PM
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on November 03, 2019, 02:23:29 PM
Have we not got a kid better than LeMarchand ? I don't believe we don't ....
So we do then? Who is it?
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Which one of the u23 backs that conceded more than three goals each against West Ham, West Brom, Reading and Middlesbough do you recommend?
And there lies a further dilemma adding to the debate that we have some depth in some areas and absolutely b#gger all in others. Premier ready? Not really.
I am sure that Mawson, and indeed any other player heavily criticised on this forum, would perform better in a well balanced, side to side and back to front, team enjoying a successful two points per game average take. I look forward to seeing him play in such a side in the very near future ... in the meantime squabbling about his comparative worth or value gets us nowhere and what if Hector isn't the answer ...
I like Mawson. He has the tools and attitude to be a strong player for us. Football is a game of mistakes and inevitably he makes them from time to time. On Saturday he retreated far too far allowing Hull to get a shot off. Basic rule of thumb is that the penalty area line is where it's simply better to stand ground and show the attacker to outside. Much after that and the centre back is mostly just getting in the keepers way.
Not great, but frankly not nearly as bad as Tim Ream playing musical statues for Hulls third goal. Or Le Marchand failing to challenge for the first.
Even Joe Bryan made a horrible mess in his minute on the pitch. We might as well pick Sessegnon until the New Year. He will get better.
I like Mawson. He has the tools and attitude to be a strong player for us. Football is a game of mistakes and inevitably he makes them from time to time. On Saturday he retreated far too far allowing Hull to get a shot off. Basic rule of thumb is that the penalty area line is where it's simply better to stand ground and show the attacker to outside. Much after that and the centre back is mostly just getting in the keepers way.
Not great, but frankly not nearly as bad as Tim Ream playing musical statues for Hulls third goal. Or Le Marchand failing to challenge for the first.
Even Joe Bryan made a horrible mess in his minute on the pitch. We might as well pick Sessegnon until the New Year. He will get better.
+ 1 good post
Quote from: Statto on November 03, 2019, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 03, 2019, 08:59:01 PM
So by that I am guessing Le Marchand is not one of the squad who would walk into any other Championship side?
Quite right.
But Le Marchand should be our 4th choice CB (5th when Hector arrives) and 3rd choice LB.
It would be quite something if even our 3rd and 4th string players would walk into any other Championship side.
But no doubt even then, some would defend Parker if we were mid-table.
If TK recruits Van Dyke, De Bruyne, Raheem Sterling and Harry Kane for our Championship Promotion Campaign, then they all play poorly and we get relegated from the championship into League One would we consider TK has recruited poorly and Parker is hence blameless as "the table doesn't lie"?
If TK recruits a Champions League Goalkeeper, who was also voted the best goalkeeper in the Turkish Super Lig for both 16/17 and 17/18. Has TK really failed to recruit a decent keeper? If Betts is poor, but Parker considers Fabri to be worse. Does that prove that TK overrated Fabri and he is not a decent recruitment? Or could Parker be overating Betts and underated Fabri?
Fabri made 16 saves last season in his first two games and Betts has only made 21 saves this season so far, and who really has made the worse mistakes.
Maybe we should be blamed Tony Khan for recruiting players with great statistics when playing for very good managers (Houghton, Nuno Espírito Santo and Warnock), then finding that the same players have very bad statistics when playing for another manager like Slavisa, Raneri and Parker. Tony Khan's recruitment problem is not "he is using statistics to recruit players", it's that as soon as his recruits join Fulham their statistics nosedive. Whose fault is that?
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 04, 2019, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: Statto on November 03, 2019, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 03, 2019, 08:59:01 PM
So by that I am guessing Le Marchand is not one of the squad who would walk into any other Championship side?
Quite right.
But Le Marchand should be our 4th choice CB (5th when Hector arrives) and 3rd choice LB.
It would be quite something if even our 3rd and 4th string players would walk into any other Championship side.
But no doubt even then, some would defend Parker if we were mid-table.
If TK recruits Van Dyke, De Bruyne, Raheem Sterling and Harry Kane for our Championship Promotion Campaign, then they all play poorly and we get relegated from the championship into League One would we consider TK has recruited poorly and Parker is hence blameless as "the table doesn't lie"?
If TK recruits a Champions League Goalkeeper, who was also voted the best goalkeeper in the Turkish Super Lig for both 16/17 and 17/18. Has TK really failed to recruit a decent keeper? If Betts is poor, but Parker considers Fabri to be worse. Does that prove that TK overrated Fabri and he is not a decent recruitment? Or could Parker be overating Betts and underated Fabri?
Fabri made 16 saves last season in his first two games and Betts has only made 21 saves this season so far, and who really has made the worse mistakes.
Maybe we should be blamed Tony Khan for recruiting players with great statistics when playing for very good managers (Houghton, Nuno Espírito Santo and Warnock), then finding that the same players have very bad statistics when playing for another manager like Slavisa, Raneri and Parker. Tony Khan's recruitment problem is not "he is using statistics to recruit players", it's that as soon as his recruits join Fulham their statistics nosedive. Whose fault is that?
Hi, Tony! :)
I jest. I actually agree with a lot of the above (other than including SJ, I think he got the promotion squad playing above the sum of their parts or at least equal to) which surely means its time to pull the trigger on Parker whilst the season is still young enough to give a 'very good' manager a proper shot at promotion.
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 03, 2019, 04:22:45 PM
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on November 03, 2019, 02:23:29 PM
Have we not got a kid better than LeMarchand ? I don't believe we don't ....
So we do then? Who is it?
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We must have a good left back coming through ???
Why not put Reed at right back on Saturday, Odoi as left back and replace Reed with KMac ! It did not have to be a kid, but there must be something better out there than LeMarchand.
Without Bryan, i would go for a back 3.
Cava Mitro
Onomah Johansen Reed Cairney Knockert
Mawson Ream Odoi
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 04, 2019, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: Statto on November 03, 2019, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 03, 2019, 08:59:01 PM
So by that I am guessing Le Marchand is not one of the squad who would walk into any other Championship side?
Quite right.
But Le Marchand should be our 4th choice CB (5th when Hector arrives) and 3rd choice LB.
It would be quite something if even our 3rd and 4th string players would walk into any other Championship side.
But no doubt even then, some would defend Parker if we were mid-table.
If TK recruits Van Dyke, De Bruyne, Raheem Sterling and Harry Kane for our Championship Promotion Campaign, then they all play poorly and we get relegated from the championship into League One would we consider TK has recruited poorly and Parker is hence blameless as "the table doesn't lie"?
If TK recruits a Champions League Goalkeeper, who was also voted the best goalkeeper in the Turkish Super Lig for both 16/17 and 17/18. Has TK really failed to recruit a decent keeper? If Betts is poor, but Parker considers Fabri to be worse. Does that prove that TK overrated Fabri and he is not a decent recruitment? Or could Parker be overating Betts and underated Fabri?
Fabri made 16 saves last season in his first two games and Betts has only made 21 saves this season so far, and who really has made the worse mistakes.
Maybe we should be blamed Tony Khan for recruiting players with great statistics when playing for very good managers (Houghton, Nuno Espírito Santo and Warnock), then finding that the same players have very bad statistics when playing for another manager like Slavisa, Raneri and Parker. Tony Khan's recruitment problem is not "he is using statistics to recruit players", it's that as soon as his recruits join Fulham their statistics nosedive. Whose fault is that?
If Fabri is so great why can't he get in the RCD Mallorca starting line up?
Quote from: Penfold on November 05, 2019, 11:41:51 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 04, 2019, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: Statto on November 03, 2019, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 03, 2019, 08:59:01 PM
So by that I am guessing Le Marchand is not one of the squad who would walk into any other Championship side?
Quite right.
But Le Marchand should be our 4th choice CB (5th when Hector arrives) and 3rd choice LB.
It would be quite something if even our 3rd and 4th string players would walk into any other Championship side.
But no doubt even then, some would defend Parker if we were mid-table.
If TK recruits Van Dyke, De Bruyne, Raheem Sterling and Harry Kane for our Championship Promotion Campaign, then they all play poorly and we get relegated from the championship into League One would we consider TK has recruited poorly and Parker is hence blameless as "the table doesn't lie"?
If TK recruits a Champions League Goalkeeper, who was also voted the best goalkeeper in the Turkish Super Lig for both 16/17 and 17/18. Has TK really failed to recruit a decent keeper? If Betts is poor, but Parker considers Fabri to be worse. Does that prove that TK overrated Fabri and he is not a decent recruitment? Or could Parker be overating Betts and underated Fabri?
Fabri made 16 saves last season in his first two games and Betts has only made 21 saves this season so far, and who really has made the worse mistakes.
Maybe we should be blamed Tony Khan for recruiting players with great statistics when playing for very good managers (Houghton, Nuno Espírito Santo and Warnock), then finding that the same players have very bad statistics when playing for another manager like Slavisa, Raneri and Parker. Tony Khan's recruitment problem is not "he is using statistics to recruit players", it's that as soon as his recruits join Fulham their statistics nosedive. Whose fault is that?
If Fabri is so great why can't he get in the RCD Mallorca starting line up?
Because he isn't, Being decent in the Turkish league doesn't make you a good player. He was clearly out of his depth, in fairness, most of our defenders were/are also.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 04, 2019, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: Statto on November 03, 2019, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 03, 2019, 08:59:01 PM
So by that I am guessing Le Marchand is not one of the squad who would walk into any other Championship side?
Quite right.
But Le Marchand should be our 4th choice CB (5th when Hector arrives) and 3rd choice LB.
It would be quite something if even our 3rd and 4th string players would walk into any other Championship side.
But no doubt even then, some would defend Parker if we were mid-table.
If TK recruits Van Dyke, De Bruyne, Raheem Sterling and Harry Kane for our Championship Promotion Campaign, then they all play poorly and we get relegated from the championship into League One would we consider TK has recruited poorly and Parker is hence blameless as "the table doesn't lie"?
If TK recruits a Champions League Goalkeeper, who was also voted the best goalkeeper in the Turkish Super Lig for both 16/17 and 17/18. Has TK really failed to recruit a decent keeper? If Betts is poor, but Parker considers Fabri to be worse. Does that prove that TK overrated Fabri and he is not a decent recruitment? Or could Parker be overating Betts and underated Fabri?
Fabri made 16 saves last season in his first two games and Betts has only made 21 saves this season so far, and who really has made the worse mistakes.
Maybe we should be blamed Tony Khan for recruiting players with great statistics when playing for very good managers (Houghton, Nuno Espírito Santo and Warnock), then finding that the same players have very bad statistics when playing for another manager like Slavisa, Raneri and Parker. Tony Khan's recruitment problem is not "he is using statistics to recruit players", it's that as soon as his recruits join Fulham their statistics nosedive. Whose fault is that?
His.
We've needed defenders since January, we brought in one, Havard Nordveit, he was awful. That is 100% on the recruitment team. No manager can be fairly asked to achieve promotion without being given a team capable of promotion. 5-10th is probably about right for this squad, and probably over achieving when considering our defence.
Quote from: Chutney on November 05, 2019, 11:44:50 AM
Quote from: Penfold on November 05, 2019, 11:41:51 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 04, 2019, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: Statto on November 03, 2019, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 03, 2019, 08:59:01 PM
So by that I am guessing Le Marchand is not one of the squad who would walk into any other Championship side?
Quite right.
But Le Marchand should be our 4th choice CB (5th when Hector arrives) and 3rd choice LB.
It would be quite something if even our 3rd and 4th string players would walk into any other Championship side.
But no doubt even then, some would defend Parker if we were mid-table.
If TK recruits Van Dyke, De Bruyne, Raheem Sterling and Harry Kane for our Championship Promotion Campaign, then they all play poorly and we get relegated from the championship into League One would we consider TK has recruited poorly and Parker is hence blameless as "the table doesn't lie"?
If TK recruits a Champions League Goalkeeper, who was also voted the best goalkeeper in the Turkish Super Lig for both 16/17 and 17/18. Has TK really failed to recruit a decent keeper? If Betts is poor, but Parker considers Fabri to be worse. Does that prove that TK overrated Fabri and he is not a decent recruitment? Or could Parker be overating Betts and underated Fabri?
Fabri made 16 saves last season in his first two games and Betts has only made 21 saves this season so far, and who really has made the worse mistakes.
Maybe we should be blamed Tony Khan for recruiting players with great statistics when playing for very good managers (Houghton, Nuno Espírito Santo and Warnock), then finding that the same players have very bad statistics when playing for another manager like Slavisa, Raneri and Parker. Tony Khan's recruitment problem is not "he is using statistics to recruit players", it's that as soon as his recruits join Fulham their statistics nosedive. Whose fault is that?
If Fabri is so great why can't he get in the RCD Mallorca starting line up?
Because he isn't, Being decent in the Turkish league doesn't make you a good player. He was clearly out of his depth, in fairness, most of our defenders were/are also.
I also had a quick look at the Besitkas squad in 2016/17 and 2017/18. Lots of experience in the defence. Must have made him feel comfortable. I would also reckon that majority of teams in the league are not that strong. Big three in Istanbul and another club from there with money behind them. Can't recall any of the provincial teams being much cop.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 04, 2019, 12:42:09 PM
Tony Khan's recruitment problem is not "he is using statistics to recruit players", it's that as soon as his recruits join Fulham their statistics nosedive. Whose fault is that?
I am guessing, of course, but perhaps the currently available statistics are not without major fault. Therefore by extrapolation TK may also be at fault if he has an over reliance upon them. As Mark Twain reflected upon "Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are pliable." .
Quote from: toshes mate on November 05, 2019, 12:06:35 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 04, 2019, 12:42:09 PM
Tony Khan's recruitment problem is not "he is using statistics to recruit players", it's that as soon as his recruits join Fulham their statistics nosedive. Whose fault is that?
I am guessing, of course, but perhaps the currently available statistics are not without major fault. Therefore by extrapolation TK may also be at fault if he has an over reliance upon them. As Mark Twain reflected upon "Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are pliable." .
I have the opposite view that, while there are a few statistical errors, most of the time statistics accurately reflex what they are intended to measure, which is how the player played.
For example, statistics say "Knockaert was awesome for Brighton in the Championship and poor for Fulham", statistics say "Bobby Reid was a goal scoring machine for Bristol and not for Fulham", statistics say "KMac and Stefjo were awesome in the Championship and poor in the Premier League" and statistics say "Betts was one of the best keepers in the championship 17/18 but not in 19/20".
Whether you are watching a game or seeing the game statistics, you often cone to the same conclusion that the player is good, then you watch another game and the player is rubbish doesn't mean the statistics are wrong for the previous game.
In nearly all cases i consider the statistics are correct, so i strongly think the statistics about Seri are also correct "a top ligue 1 player, good player for the first four games for Fulham and then he suddenly becomes rubbish".
I am sure if you watched Seri, you would come to same conclusion that we bought a top player that quickly became rubbish around the Man City game and never recovered costing Fulham around £22 millon. A similar thing happened to Fabri, Schullre, Anguissa and Bryan, with later two according to statistics returning to form.
FFCs are buying good players, our problem is they aren't so good in a Fulham shirt. I frankly don't know why these players turned rubbish, but i assume the coach should know and fix it. You can blame Tony Khan for paying £10 million too much, but if his value falls any more we will be selling Mitro to our recover our losses.
