Stoke Jones sacked win 4-2
Hearts Levien sacked Win 5-2
Hibs sack Heckingbottom win 4-1.
All sacked last 7 days.
I think plays a role, but how much I couldn't say. I think it has more to do with what the owner THINKS the problem is.
Up in Edinburgh for a few days so went to the Hearts game. Fantastic for a neutral with a 5-2 scoreline. Really poor quality game though. Doubt either team would survive in the Championship.
Yes. Absolutely. Each of these results is a disgrace really and an insult to all their fans. Shows all the players are plenty good enough and just downed tools for the previous managers. Now that they're worried the new managers may not fancy them, they put in a shift. Says pretty much everything you need to know about the morality and mentality of modern footballers.
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on November 09, 2019, 05:51:38 PM
Yes. Absolutely. Each of these results is a disgrace really and an insult to all their fans. Shows all the players are plenty good enough and just downed tools for the previous managers. Now that they're worried the new managers may not fancy them, they put in a shift. Says pretty much everything you need to know about the morality and mentality of modern footballers.
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on November 09, 2019, 05:51:38 PM
Yes. Absolutely. Each of these results is a disgrace really and an insult to all their fans. Shows all the players are plenty good enough and just downed tools for the previous managers. Now that they're worried the new managers may not fancy them, they put in a shift. Says pretty much everything you need to know about the morality and mentality of modern footballers.
Hibs and Hearts haven't appointed anyone yet,so makes you wonder.
It's obvious players deliberately underperform to get a manager the sack, it's been going on for years. One of the many reasons football is eating itself from within.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 09, 2019, 05:13:06 PM
Stoke Jones sacked win 4-2
Hearts Levien sacked Win 5-2
Hibs sack Heckingbottom win 4-1.
All sacked last 7 days.
Why did Stoke beat us then if they wanted rid of the manager, I know where you are coming from, player power has an influence, Chelsea are a great example!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 09, 2019, 05:55:24 PM
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on November 09, 2019, 05:51:38 PM
Yes. Absolutely. Each of these results is a disgrace really and an insult to all their fans. Shows all the players are plenty good enough and just downed tools for the previous managers. Now that they're worried the new managers may not fancy them, they put in a shift. Says pretty much everything you need to know about the morality and mentality of modern footballers.
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on November 09, 2019, 05:51:38 PM
Yes. Absolutely. Each of these results is a disgrace really and an insult to all their fans. Shows all the players are plenty good enough and just downed tools for the previous managers. Now that they're worried the new managers may not fancy them, they put in a shift. Says pretty much everything you need to know about the morality and mentality of modern footballers.
Hibs and Hearts haven't appointed anyone yet,so makes you wonder.
True, but they might prefer the caretaker and want him to get the job, rather than some new bloke they don't know who might bin them.
Quote from: davew on November 09, 2019, 07:18:56 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 09, 2019, 05:13:06 PM
Stoke Jones sacked win 4-2
Hearts Levien sacked Win 5-2
Hibs sack Heckingbottom win 4-1.
All sacked last 7 days.
Why did Stoke beat us then if they wanted rid of the manager, I know where you are coming from, player power has an influence, Chelsea are a great example!
We beat ourselves at Stoke.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 09, 2019, 06:50:08 PM
It's obvious players deliberately underperform to get a manager the sack, it's been going on for years. One of the many reasons football is eating itself from within.
Brian Clough denied players ever deliberately underperform in a match, at least all his ex-players.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 10, 2019, 04:49:12 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 09, 2019, 06:50:08 PM
It's obvious players deliberately underperform to get a manager the sack, it's been going on for years. One of the many reasons football is eating itself from within.
Brian Clough denied players ever deliberately underperform in a match, at least all his ex-players.
John McGovern the little workhorse in midfield once said,"there is no way you don't give 110 pc for the guvoner,because no matter who you are you will be out on your arse next game if you don't".
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 10, 2019, 04:49:12 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 09, 2019, 06:50:08 PM
It's obvious players deliberately underperform to get a manager the sack, it's been going on for years. One of the many reasons football is eating itself from within.
Brian Clough denied players ever deliberately underperform in a match, at least all his ex-players.
I think Leeds players definitely underperformed to get rid of Clough after he accused them of winning only by cheating.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 10, 2019, 04:49:12 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 09, 2019, 06:50:08 PM
It's obvious players deliberately underperform to get a manager the sack, it's been going on for years. One of the many reasons football is eating itself from within.
Brian Clough denied players ever deliberately underperform in a match, at least all his ex-players.
Apart from the Leeds players who had a hidden agenda.
Nobody dared underperform under Brian Clough, he was a proper manager, a man manager, and he managed very well indeed.
