But I'll take it. Coyws. Some great saves from rodak, two good finishes from mitro. Odoi has more tekkers than joe Cole ever had. Swansea are a decent team but lack the class up top.
Doesn't have to be pretty. Three points on the road is always sweet.
I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty well done boys enjoy the weekend I know I will🍻
Well done lads, they dug it out.
Some serious work carried out by Johansen and Mitro who both led by example. Sadly we are a very unbalanced team. I'm afraid we have some seriously weak links
Onomah - does he know what urgency is. Partly to blame for Swansea equaliser as he made very little attempt to block cross.
Mawson - just can't play passing game
Bryan - is very poor defensively
Kamara - at least he tried but very wasteful in possession.
I commend the fact that we hung on but it should have been easier then that.
Don't understand the Onomah obsession Parker has at all!
Quote from: Milo on November 29, 2019, 09:57:20 PM
Don't understand the Onomah obsession Parker has at all!
yes I agree. I'll be amazed if he isn't loaned out in January
Quote from: Milo on November 29, 2019, 09:57:20 PM
Don't understand the Onomah obsession Parker has at all!
He is the weakest link and offers nothing, please watch all the games he has played in this season, they are all on FFCTV!
I thought the substitutions were odd. Kamara should have been the first due to his card and a bit of a knock. Onamah second because he really didn't seem up to it, either in talent or effort. Much as I love Kmac, I think the game has passed him by.
Quote from: fulhamben on November 29, 2019, 09:59:41 PM
Quote from: Milo on November 29, 2019, 09:57:20 PM
Don't understand the Onomah obsession Parker has at all!
yes I agree. I'll be amazed if he isn't loaned out in January
Isn't he on loan to us? Maybe we can trade him to Spuds for Sess.
Quote from: howitis on November 29, 2019, 09:54:03 PM
Some serious work carried out by Johansen and Mitro who both led by example. Sadly we are a very unbalanced team. I'm afraid we have some seriously weak links
Onomah - does he know what urgency is. Partly to blame for Swansea equaliser as he made very little attempt to block cross.
Mawson - just can't play passing game
Bryan - is very poor defensively
Kamara - at least he tried but very wasteful in possession.
I commend the fact that we hung on but it should have been easier then that.
What game were you watching? Mawson was comfortable on the ball all game, and I don't remember anyone getting round Bryan in a 1v1, and there were possibly only 1/2 occasions where they passed it round him, but that's as much as Ream and whichever midfielder was providing him covers fault as well. Kamara was fine in the ball, why do we expect players to have 100% pass completion, or are you trying to take a cheap shot because it's Kamara?
Quote from: howitis on November 29, 2019, 09:54:03 PM
Some serious work carried out by Johansen and Mitro who both led by example. Sadly we are a very unbalanced team. I'm afraid we have some seriously weak links
Onomah - does he know what urgency is. Partly to blame for Swansea equaliser as he made very little attempt to block cross.
Mawson - just can't play passing game
Bryan - is very poor defensively
Kamara - at least he tried but very wasteful in possession.
I commend the fact that we hung on but it should have been easier then that.
Onomah - without Reed, Arter & Reid thete was not really anyone else
Mawson - Who would have him replaced by for the next few games
Bryan - Same as above
Kamara - Rather have him start than Knockaert.
The only serious work is on the treatment table.
Quote from: Deeping_white on November 29, 2019, 10:05:20 PM
Quote from: howitis on November 29, 2019, 09:54:03 PM
Some serious work carried out by Johansen and Mitro who both led by example. Sadly we are a very unbalanced team. I'm afraid we have some seriously weak links
Onomah - does he know what urgency is. Partly to blame for Swansea equaliser as he made very little attempt to block cross.
Mawson - just can't play passing game
Bryan - is very poor defensively
Kamara - at least he tried but very wasteful in possession.
I commend the fact that we hung on but it should have been easier then that.
What game were you watching? Mawson was comfortable on the ball all game, and I don't remember anyone getting round Bryan in a 1v1, and there were possibly only 1/2 occasions where they passed it round him, but that's as much as Ream and whichever midfielder was providing him covers fault as well. Kamara was fine in the ball, why do we expect players to have 100% pass completion, or are you trying to take a cheap shot because it's Kamara?
Agree
Starting Onomah with Cairney deeper was better than Cairney higher with McDonald trying to play 90 minutes.
I don't rate Onomah at all so far, but Parker made a sensible choice given his limited options.
Good on Rodak to continue to seize the opportunity once given the chance. Didn't love the goal conceded, but the huge early save really changed the game for us. Several other decent stops and he's looking better coming off his line, too. Hopeful he will be the starter the rest of the way.
My understanding is we beat a team vying for the playoffs at their place. Both teams had players missing. But somehow we need to look for the imperfections. Trying to put part of the blame on Onomah for their goal is fair enough as long as we blame the whole team because we did concede after all and it is always somebody not doing his job or making a mistake that leads to a goal.
I do understand the need to pick on players faults. But having just won again. It seems some of us have forgotten how to praise players and enjoy the wins. If we get promoted or even in the play offs it will be the ugly wins that will get us there.
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 29, 2019, 11:36:19 PM
My understanding is we beat a team vying for the playoffs at their place. Both teams had players missing. But somehow we need to look for the imperfections. Trying to put part of the blame on Onomah for their goal is fair enough as long as we blame the whole team because we did concede after all and it is always somebody not doing his job or making a mistake that leads to a goal.
I do understand the need to pick on players faults. But having just won again. It seems some of us have forgotten how to praise players and enjoy the wins. If we get promoted or even in the play offs it will be the ugly wins that will get us there.
:plus one:
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 29, 2019, 11:36:19 PM
My understanding is we beat a team vying for the playoffs at their place. Both teams had players missing. But somehow we need to look for the imperfections. Trying to put part of the blame on Onomah for their goal is fair enough as long as we blame the whole team because we did concede after all and it is always somebody not doing his job or making a mistake that leads to a goal.
I do understand the need to pick on players faults. But having just won again. It seems some of us have forgotten how to praise players and enjoy the wins. If we get promoted or even in the play offs it will be the ugly wins that will get us there.
I don't understand the need to pick on players faults...none of us are part of the Fulham team so nothing we say will change anything, nor will we encourage a better performance as we have no idea what is the root cause of issues...apart from pretending we know better than Parker I am at a loss to understand what this achieves?
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 29, 2019, 11:36:19 PM
My understanding is we beat a team vying for the playoffs at their place. Both teams had players missing. But somehow we need to look for the imperfections. Trying to put part of the blame on Onomah for their goal is fair enough as long as we blame the whole team because we did concede after all and it is always somebody not doing his job or making a mistake that leads to a goal.
I do understand the need to pick on players faults. But having just won again. It seems some of us have forgotten how to praise players and enjoy the wins. If we get promoted or even in the play offs it will be the ugly wins that will get us there.
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Quote from: YankeeJim on November 29, 2019, 10:02:39 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on November 29, 2019, 09:59:41 PM
Quote from: Milo on November 29, 2019, 09:57:20 PM
Don't understand the Onomah obsession Parker has at all!
yes I agree. I'll be amazed if he isn't loaned out in January
Isn't he on loan to us? Maybe we can trade him to Spuds for Sess.
Onomah was part of the deal when Sess went to Spurs and is not a loan unfortunately.
For my money's worth I thought this was a game we would have lost a few weeks back had it played out much the way it did last night. This was an altogether grittier FFC team who played like leaders; sucked up the pressure and hit opponents on the counter. We also dominated much of the second half and only a poor decisions from the referee gave our opponents a sniff of a chance and Rodak's one flap of the night in a game he had hardly put a foot wrong up till then.
Parker and his team are making impressions where they need to be made and while there is still a long way to go, much of the progress is being made in the right places e.g. players' minds, attitudes, confidence, and team spirit. Mitro, meanwhile, continues to show why he is the player he is.
I read on FoF that a) there is no point keeping Seri if he doesn't want to play for us better to write him off at a big loss and use whatsever left to get some else; b) there is no point keeping Ayite and Fonte because we have got better juniors coming through. Well, with the money for Seri £4m (loan fee and wages reduction) we couldn't buy much more than Onamah for £2.7m+wages, and as for good juniors Onamah played u23 and was clearly better than them.
That people are looking to criticise the team after that performance is unbelievable.They are a decent team who tried to press us high and at times couldnt get near the ball. This wasnt our best starting eleven but the team performance was impressive. The performance of the team outweighed that of any individuals ,Mitro and Rodak included. The players are working for each other ,believe in the way they are playing and are right behind Parker. Id say that was very `pretty `!!!
Quote from: Deeping_white on November 29, 2019, 10:05:20 PM
Quote from: howitis on November 29, 2019, 09:54:03 PM
Some serious work carried out by Johansen and Mitro who both led by example. Sadly we are a very unbalanced team. I'm afraid we have some seriously weak links
Onomah - does he know what urgency is. Partly to blame for Swansea equaliser as he made very little attempt to block cross.
Mawson - just can't play passing game
Bryan - is very poor defensively
Kamara - at least he tried but very wasteful in possession.
I commend the fact that we hung on but it should have been easier then that.
What game were you watching? Mawson was comfortable on the ball all game, and I don't remember anyone getting round Bryan in a 1v1, and there were possibly only 1/2 occasions where they passed it round him, but that's as much as Ream and whichever midfielder was providing him covers fault as well. Kamara was fine in the ball, why do we expect players to have 100% pass completion, or are you trying to take a cheap shot because it's Kamara?
Not the same one as you. " Mawson comfortable on the ball" - what before he passes it into the stands or the opppsition. Don't make me laugh ...
Can't believe there are posters pulling players to pieces!
We are on a four match winning streak, won away again, this time to Swansea of all teams who are in the top six, and still there are unsatisfied customers, that's fair enough, everyone's entitled too their own opinion, and I know i can sometimes be hard to please, but I just fail to comprehend the logic.
Quote from: toshes mate on November 30, 2019, 08:25:33 AM
For my money's worth I thought this was a game we would have lost a few weeks back had it played out much the way it did last night. This was an altogether grittier FFC team who played like leaders; sucked up the pressure and hit opponents on the counter.
Agreed. Four wins in a row...wow! Earlier this season, it looked like FFC wouldn't win four games all season. Nice, gritty, road win. Team is coming on, though still far from perfect and much work to do yet. If anything, confidence has to be getting very strong within the clubhouse. Nice to have what seems like an established keeper, able to keep the team in games when there were slip ups. Rodak has been solid since taking over the starting role.
COYW!!!
Quote from: howitis on November 29, 2019, 09:54:03 PM
Some serious work carried out by Johansen and Mitro who both led by example. Sadly we are a very unbalanced team. I'm afraid we have some seriously weak links
Onomah - does he know what urgency is. Partly to blame for Swansea equaliser as he made very little attempt to block cross.
Mawson - just can't play passing game
Bryan - is very poor defensively
Kamara - at least he tried but very wasteful in possession.
I commend the fact that we hung on but it should have been easier then that.
Can't agree with the Bryan criticism.
He did very well against the attacks of the cheating, whining Ayew.
Don't think anyone's commented, but surely the Swansea goal was offside ?
Swansea equaliser? Did I miss something?
Quote from: Enfield on November 30, 2019, 10:05:56 PM
Don't think anyone's commented, but surely the Swansea goal was offside ?
Pretty sure Mawson played him onside, and Ream and Mitro lost track of their guys. But it happens, those situations are very difficult to defend when you first try to push up your defensive line and then have to track back in case to opponents managed to keep onside.
Quote from: howitis on November 29, 2019, 09:54:03 PM
Some serious work carried out by Johansen and Mitro who both led by example. Sadly we are a very unbalanced team. I'm afraid we have some seriously weak links
Onomah - does he know what urgency is. Partly to blame for Swansea equaliser as he made very little attempt to block cross.
Mawson - just can't play passing game
Bryan - is very poor defensively
Kamara - at least he tried but very wasteful in possession.
I commend the fact that we hung on but it should have been easier then that.
I completely disagree with your criticism of Bryan who got back and tackled effectively on several occasions.
I have been a past critic of Kamara but since his reintegration into the team he's been excellent.
Mawson may not look as comfortable as Ream on the ball but he didn't keep hoofing it out as you suggest on your second post.
Onomah wasn't great I'd agree but he is cover not a first choice starter and has had limited game time. Giv e him a chance.
