I only caught last ten on telly, so how did he play. Does he look like an upgrade on ream, and did he go off injured
Looked decent. Good start in difficult circumstances.
Yup, looked competent, even against Citeh, so should do us proud for the remaining season. Pity we cannot play him against Huddersfield, but C'est la vie.
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 03:15:22 PM
Looked decent. Good start in difficult circumstances.
good to know. And it can only get easier from here on in, playing city away on debut would be a baptism of fire at any time, let alone after going a player down
Thougt he did very well some good tackles .Think him and hector can be huge for us .
Think he went off due to tiredness with lack of game time
Quite impressed. Huge upgrade on Ream even before his stupid red card. I expect he will partner Hector as our best 2 CB's. However he can't play vs Huddersfield so with ream out for 3 matches I expect Mawson to come in with Hector
Him and Hector to blame for 3rd and 4th goal.
Would have been more respectable 2-0 otherwise.
This messing about at the back is getting ridiculous.
Thought he was fairly solid today.
He was decent considering he hasn't played for a while and we were up against the Premier League champions. Too early to judge but really hope he can form a good partnership with Hector.
"This messing about at the back is getting ridiculous."
Not sure it was envisaged our tactics included getting pressed for the ball in our own six yard box!!
He put in a fantastic last ditch tackle when City broke free into the box, showed great pace to get back and get a tackle in
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 27, 2020, 08:43:23 AM
He put in a fantastic last ditch tackle when City broke free into the box, showed great pace to get back and get a tackle in
Yes a proper last ditch tackle that was. Danny Murphy was well impressed.
Yes, good pace, and desire, to get back, and good timing in the sliding tackle - using his long legs, to take the ball without touching the man and giving away a pen.
Reminded me of Eddie Lowe.
Quote from: RaySmith on January 27, 2020, 08:58:29 AM
Yes, good pace, and desire, to get back, and good timing in the sliding tackle - using his long legs, to take the ball without touching the man and giving away a pen.
Reminded me of Eddie Lowe.
Was there ever a more quiet very efficient player than steady Eddie? A great servant to the club. I recall on the eve of his last game for us he was interviewed on the BBC.
He was one of my favourite Fulham players back then, someone i tried to model my own play on as a wing-half, with his steady consistency, and those sliding tackles with his long legs.
I still have a mental image of him running back , skinny legs pumping, to foil an attack, a leg snaking out to win the ball with a perfectly timed tackle - that's why kongolo reminded me of him yesterday.
Quote from: bog on January 27, 2020, 09:26:47 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on January 27, 2020, 08:58:29 AM
Yes, good pace, and desire, to get back, and good timing in the sliding tackle - using his long legs, to take the ball without touching the man and giving away a pen.
Reminded me of Eddie Lowe.
Was there ever a more quiet very efficient player than steady Eddie? A great servant to the club. I recall on the eve of his last game for us he was interviewed on the BBC.
Ditto. Definitely one of my favorites, along with Jim Langley.
We have been crying out for a couple of strong centre backs for some seasons now, is it possible that at last we have two with Hector and Kongolo ?
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 03:15:22 PM
Looked decent. Good start in difficult circumstances.
Totally agree, considering it was his first game for a long time he did well and I think he only went off due to cramp, looks a good addition to the back 4.
PS. He's got a lot more hair than Eddie Lowe!
Quote from: filham on January 27, 2020, 05:18:37 PM
We have been crying out for a couple of strong centre backs for some seasons now, is it possible that at last we have two with Hector and Kongolo ?
I think we do. But don't ask them to suddenly acquire balls skills they do not possess; 'Big strong centre backs'. That's what they are. Let's use them properly.
Very encouraging. He put in one of the best timed tackles I've seen from a Fulham player for a very long time.
Quote from: bog on January 27, 2020, 09:26:47 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on January 27, 2020, 08:58:29 AM
Yes, good pace, and desire, to get back, and good timing in the sliding tackle - using his long legs, to take the ball without touching the man and giving away a pen.
Reminded me of Eddie Lowe.
Was there ever a more quiet very efficient player than steady Eddie? A great servant to the club. I recall on the eve of his last game for us he was interviewed on the BBC.
Reg Matthewson
John Dempsey
Aaron Hughes
Quote from: Dr Quinzel on January 27, 2020, 05:27:29 PM
Very encouraging. He put in one of the best timed tackles I've seen from a Fulham player for a very long time.
Agree - tackle for anyone who didn't see
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/eddie-lowe-aston-villa-and-fulham-wing-half-inexplicably-overlooked-by-england-after-winning-three-1656072.html
Quote from: bog on January 27, 2020, 09:26:47 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on January 27, 2020, 08:58:29 AM
Yes, good pace, and desire, to get back, and good timing in the sliding tackle - using his long legs, to take the ball without touching the man and giving away a pen.
Reminded me of Eddie Lowe.
Was there ever a more quiet very efficient player than steady Eddie? A great servant to the club. I recall on the eve of his last game for us he was interviewed on the BBC.
It has been a long wait for "Sticks 11" to appear.
Telescopic legs, very useful.
Look forward to seeing him perform for us again.
Looked much better as a unit at the back when he and Hector were playing without Ream. Both seem to cover a lot of ground and have to cover for other players. But when Ream is playing he just no longer seems to read the game so well. Hasn't for the last couple of seasons.
Looking forward to a settled back 4, assuming no full backs are signed of:
Odoi—Hector—Kongolo—Bryan
Front 3 of:
Knockers—Mitro—Cav
Midfield:
Cairney—Reed—Reid
Midfieldis the hardest to pick as would be happy for Arter or StefJo to slot in and KMac has done really well
Personally I still think Onomah is slightly behind the rest, but only just !
With Rodak in goal, Parker has an 11 that has to seriously challenge for top 2.
Our bench is without doubt extremely strong as well. Kongolo and Hector are s huge upgrade in a vital area.
Our defence has been a weak point for so long, but now we seem to be getting somewhere.
Well done all concerned in getting these players in.
Quote from: FulhamStu on January 28, 2020, 01:23:03 PM
Looking forward to a settled back 4, assuming no full backs are signed of:
Odoi—Hector—Kongolo—Bryan
Front 3 of:
Knockers—Mitro—Cav
Midfield:
Cairney—Reed—Reid
Midfieldis the hardest to pick as would be happy for Arter or StefJo to slot in and KMac has done really well
Personally I still think Onomah is slightly behind the rest, but only just !
With Rodak in goal, Parker has an 11 that has to seriously challenge for top 2.
Our bench is without doubt extremely strong as well. Kongolo and Hector are s huge upgrade in a vital area.
Agree with most of this, but I have a worry about the front three. Each is a fine player, but do they gel together? Neither Knockaert nor Cav make a habit of putting in crosses, low or at head height, which limits Mitro's potential threat. He becomes a hold-up man which is a criminal waste of his ability to put the ball in the net. I don't know what the answer is but I have a feeling that Mitro would do better if we had a traditional winger putting crosses in.
Quote from: LittleErn on January 28, 2020, 03:51:22 PM
Quote from: FulhamStu on January 28, 2020, 01:23:03 PM
Looking forward to a settled back 4, assuming no full backs are signed of:
Odoi—Hector—Kongolo—Bryan
Front 3 of:
Knockers—Mitro—Cav
Midfield:
Cairney—Reed—Reid
Midfieldis the hardest to pick as would be happy for Arter or StefJo to slot in and KMac has done really well
Personally I still think Onomah is slightly behind the rest, but only just !
With Rodak in goal, Parker has an 11 that has to seriously challenge for top 2.
Our bench is without doubt extremely strong as well. Kongolo and Hector are s huge upgrade in a vital area.
Agree with most of this, but I have a worry about the front three. Each is a fine player, but do they gel together? Neither Knockaert nor Cav make a habit of putting in crosses, low or at head height, which limits Mitro's potential threat. He becomes a hold-up man which is a criminal waste of his ability to put the ball in the net. I don't know what the answer is but I have a feeling that Mitro would do better if we had a traditional winger putting crosses in.
You make a good point, one thing you could do is play Knockers on the left and Cav on the right and encourage them to go outside their fullback, this encourages more dangerous crosses. For me, I would just mix it up more. They nearly always cut inside and this is becoming very predictable. All that said, Mitro has 18 goals playing mostly with them so something must be working.
Is there an agreement in place for us to sign him at the end of the loan or is it a straight forward loan ?
Quote from: Riversider on January 28, 2020, 04:42:18 PM
Is there an agreement in place for us to sign him at the end of the loan or is it a straight forward loan ?
Has been no indication that there is any clauses in the loan from either the Huddersfield or Fulham statements, so I don't think so.
