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Title: NFR 1917
Post by: Peabody on January 28, 2020, 04:25:46 PM
Just been to see the film 1917. In my opinion, it is brilliant, it ranks in one of my top ten films. The recreation of the trenches and the surrounding countryside matches my imagination of what it must have like. There are one or two moments that stretch the imagination but all films have those moments. Highly recommended.
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: HV71 on January 28, 2020, 04:34:18 PM
Yes Peabody - truly brilliant film - watching it couldn't relax for a second . Great drama.
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on January 28, 2020, 04:36:20 PM
I liked it. All filmed as one shot.
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: Whitestone on January 28, 2020, 04:36:52 PM
Saw it last Friday. Amazing piece of filmmaking. Quite breathtaking. Sure to be a contender at the awards ceremonies coming up.
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Post by: Southcoastffc on January 28, 2020, 05:13:59 PM
Yep.  Harrowing and brilliant in equal measure. Has already garnered a sheaf of awards and nominations. Sam Mendes (who directed, produced and co-wrote it) is a phenomenal talent.
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: Fernhurst on January 28, 2020, 05:18:01 PM
I would like to recommend it also as my son was in it!
He played a Sergeant leading his squad over the top.
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: Baszab on January 28, 2020, 05:28:14 PM
Brilliant movie - but without spoiling it for anyone - too many plot holes to beat "Once upon a time in Hollywood"
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: Robbie on January 28, 2020, 05:46:20 PM
Thought is was a bit thin plot wise ... and too clean ... They Shall Not Grow Old ... was far, far better (I know not quite the same thing).
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: Logicalman on January 28, 2020, 06:08:18 PM
## spoiler alert ##

I thought the effects were excellent, the landscape when they initially enter nml is amazing. The only drawback I found was the actual story-line was somewhat bereft of real content, and whereas I could understand a reason for the woman and child part, it seemed either too brief or not well woven into the fabric to have any impact on the story itself.

Overall, it's a movie worth seeing, but it is no Platoon, Private Ryan or Battle of Britain, though it might also be fair to conclude that very few conflict movies do live up to that kind of comparison I guess.
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: Peabody on January 28, 2020, 06:30:43 PM
What struck me was immediate change from mud, holes and barbed wire to meadows and bird song. Amazing
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: elgreenio on January 28, 2020, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: Baszab on January 28, 2020, 05:28:14 PM
Brilliant movie - but without spoiling it for anyone - too many plot holes to beat "Once upon a time in Hollywood"

Didn't enjoy once upon a time.... zero going on bar the final scene.

Saw 1917 last week and whilst it's good, as above it doesn't have a patch on things like saving private Ryan (can I say band of brothers as well?).

I'd imagine if you suffer from motion sickness you'll struggle with this film as well
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: Mr K.Dilkington on January 28, 2020, 09:05:35 PM
I haven't seen 1917 yet,but looks good. Has anybody seen Westfront? An excellent WW1 film from 1930. Would highly recommend.
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: Andy S on January 29, 2020, 05:48:37 PM
I have also been to see this film and agree it was excellent with not too much over the top stuff you see in a lot of American films.
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: Steeeeeeeeeed on January 30, 2020, 01:05:05 AM
Technically Amazing, one of those real 'Cinematic Experiences' like Gravity in 3D because of its one shottedness

But like that movie also felt a bit lacking in the actual story and a bit contrived.

Felt more like an Indiana Jones adventure style movie rather than a war movie.

Still enjoyed it, but it just felt a bit hollow.
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Post by: MJG on January 30, 2020, 05:55:19 AM
Have to say I thought it was brilliant piece of filmmaking and a bloody good film as well.
Of course the plot is contrived but very much like Apocalypse Now is a collection of set pieces meaning to showing the Vietnam war and all its madness, 1917 does similar. The contrast from the muddy trenches to the chalk ones at the end and lush green grass is a deliberate attempt to give it a mystical feeling.
It doesn't have that electric start that Ryan has, but not many films do, and ww1 is always a tricky subject to film in my opinion. I hope it wins big at the Oscar's.
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: bog on January 30, 2020, 09:36:41 AM
Incredible film. Some critics have chosen to criticise it. For me near the end, when the chap is running flat out across all the gunfire determined to get his instructions delivered really got to me. 

Also when a commander tells him to 'have witnesses' if he makes it and gets to inform of the instructions as some officers 'enjoy the battle'. Makes you wonder if there were times when orders were ignored and men died because of the gun ho attitude of the officer in charge.     
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: Fulham1959 on January 30, 2020, 12:05:47 PM
Quote from: Andy S on January 29, 2020, 05:48:37 PM
I have also been to see this film and agree it was excellent with not too much over the top stuff you see in a lot of American films.

Would have thought that necessary in a film about the trenches !
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: Jim© on January 30, 2020, 12:33:59 PM
Quote from: elgreenio on January 28, 2020, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: Baszab on January 28, 2020, 05:28:14 PM
Brilliant movie - but without spoiling it for anyone - too many plot holes to beat "Once upon a time in Hollywood"

Didn't enjoy once upon a time.... zero going on bar the final scene.

Saw 1917 last week and whilst it's good, as above it doesn't have a patch on things like saving private Ryan (can I say band of brothers as well?).

I'd imagine if you suffer from motion sickness you'll struggle with this film as well

Band of Brothers is to my mind the best, by some distance, of the war "films" ever produced. It's an incredible piece of work that I've watched at least 20 times over. Made even better by it's realism and meeting the real life characters at the start of each episode.
Off to see 1917 tonight, expecting big things as there's few good WW1 films around- Paths of Glory only really good one I can think of.
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on January 30, 2020, 12:43:22 PM
Quote from: Baszab on January 28, 2020, 05:28:14 PM
Brilliant movie - but without spoiling it for anyone - too many plot holes to beat "Once upon a time in Hollywood"
.

Once upon a time in Hollywood was one of the worst films I've ever seen, sorry
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on January 30, 2020, 01:13:50 PM
Once upon a time was awful - should never make light of the Manson murders
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on January 30, 2020, 01:16:34 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 30, 2020, 01:13:50 PM
Once upon a time was awful - should never make light of the Manson murders

Ridiculous ending.
The Irishman however was excellent
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: mrmicawbers on January 30, 2020, 01:35:11 PM
On holiday in India and reading fall of giants by Ken Follet.Which is set in that era.Very good book and will watch the film on my return.
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: cookieg on January 30, 2020, 11:54:12 PM
Why didn't they just drop a note out of a plane?
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: Andy S on January 31, 2020, 12:02:38 AM
The clue is in the title 1917
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: cookieg on January 31, 2020, 11:24:59 AM
Quote from: Andy S on January 31, 2020, 12:02:38 AM
The clue is in the title 1917

?. If you are referring to aeroplanes then the Royal Flying Corps was in existance during WW1 becoming the RAF on 1st April 1918. So aeroplanes were very much involved in WW1.
Title: Re: NFR 1917
Post by: Neil D on January 31, 2020, 03:22:55 PM
It was a decent enough film but if you're going to make a film about the First World War in a specified place (the Somme) at a specified time (April,1917) then some effort at verisimilitude should be made.  The Somme has no raging torrents, still less waterfalls.  The landscape is gently undulating at most.  How did the two battalions set to attack get across the newly-vacated No Mans Land so quickly and then fail to inform HQ that the Germans had indeed pulled back?  This is where films like Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers  excelled - both gripping and plausible whereas 1917 was [mostly] just gripping.