Official Twitter just posted a video of him back in training.
Never thought I'd be so relieved!
Reid Kamara Cav
Onamah Cairney
KMac
Bryan Mawson Hector Odoi
Rodak
Bench: Betts, S.Sess, Christie, Arter, Stefjo, Torres, Stansfield
Plus any reinforcements
Wouldn't have Mawson anywhere near the starting eleven.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 29, 2020, 01:03:46 PM
Reid Kamara Cav
Onamah Cairney
KMac
Bryan Mawson Hector Odoi
Rodak
If Mawson is fit, agreed
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 29, 2020, 01:03:46 PM
Reid Kamara Cav
Onamah Cairney
KMac
Bryan Mawson Hector Odoi
Rodak
Bench: Betts, S.Sess, Christie, Arter, Stefjo, Torres, Stansfield
Plus any reinforcements
Under the circumstances and considering the injuries, that's about as good as we are going to get. Might be a small adjustment to the bench, but that's all.
Assuming of course the Mitrovic, Knockhaert and Johanson are all injured, I am wondering if Tim Reem deserves a spot on the bench.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 29, 2020, 01:17:57 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 29, 2020, 01:03:46 PM
Reid Kamara Cav
Onamah Cairney
KMac
Bryan Mawson Hector Odoi
Rodak
Bench: Betts, S.Sess, Christie, Arter, Stefjo, Torres, Stansfield
Plus any reinforcements
Under the circumstances and considering the injuries, that's about as good as we are going to get. Might be a small adjustment to the bench, but that's all.
Assuming of course the Mitrovic, Knockhaert and Johanson are all injured, I am wondering if Tim Reem deserves a spot on the bench.
Ream is suspended
Quote from: JEEVES on January 29, 2020, 01:27:34 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 29, 2020, 01:17:57 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 29, 2020, 01:03:46 PM
Reid Kamara Cav
Onamah Cairney
KMac
Bryan Mawson Hector Odoi
Rodak
Bench: Betts, S.Sess, Christie, Arter, Stefjo, Torres, Stansfield
Plus any reinforcements
Under the circumstances and considering the injuries, that's about as good as we are going to get. Might be a small adjustment to the bench, but that's all.
Assuming of course the Mitrovic, Knockhaert and Johanson are all injured, I am wondering if Tim Reem deserves a spot on the bench.
Ream is suspended
Good man thank you for your swift response. You are the first to notice, and very rapid to identify. But as you are probably aware, it is today's deliberate mistake. I was Just testing to see if you were alert, well done, and a Gold Fish is on its way by net.
Quote from: MaidenheadMick on January 29, 2020, 01:06:58 PM
Wouldn't have Mawson anywhere near the starting eleven.
Mawson, MLM and Bryan are only terrible defenders when in partnership with the never to be blamed "Tim Ream". Those players were all excellent defenders before they played with Ream and may still be excellent defenders when partnering someone else.
Thank god. I will feel a lot more confident going into the game with ak leading the line
No Mawson please!
I will take Kongolo and Hector CB and I think neither will lose their place for the rest of the season.
When is Knockaert back?
Not a big fan, but in the absence of Mitrovic, he's a real boost to the starting eleven (I hope!).
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 29, 2020, 01:03:46 PM
Reid Kamara Cav
Onamah Cairney
KMac
Bryan Mawson Hector Odoi
Rodak
Bench: Betts, S.Sess, Christie, Arter, Stefjo, Torres, Stansfield
Plus any reinforcements
Uhm...where is Kongolo?
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on January 29, 2020, 02:08:55 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 29, 2020, 01:03:46 PM
Reid Kamara Cav
Onamah Cairney
KMac
Bryan Mawson Hector Odoi
Rodak
Bench: Betts, S.Sess, Christie, Arter, Stefjo, Torres, Stansfield
Plus any reinforcements
Uhm...where is Kongolo?
Next game we are playing the side he belongs to?
Yes Kamara can make a big difference on Saturday as Cav. and Reid have clearly demonstrated that they are not suitable for the strikers role. However the fact that he is training does not mean that he will be fit to play against Huddersfield, are there any other reports about his condition.
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 29, 2020, 02:10:58 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on January 29, 2020, 02:08:55 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 29, 2020, 01:03:46 PM
Reid Kamara Cav
Onamah Cairney
KMac
Bryan Mawson Hector Odoi
Rodak
Bench: Betts, S.Sess, Christie, Arter, Stefjo, Torres, Stansfield
Plus any reinforcements
Uhm...where is Kongolo?
Next game we are playing the side he belongs to?
Oh yeah!
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 29, 2020, 01:37:29 PM
Quote from: MaidenheadMick on January 29, 2020, 01:06:58 PM
Wouldn't have Mawson anywhere near the starting eleven.
Mawson, MLM and Bryan are only terrible defenders when in partnership with the never to be blamed "Tim Ream". Those players were all excellent defenders before they played with Ream and may still be excellent defenders when partnering someone else.
MLM and Ream play in the same position, Mawson was always a Left sided centre back who was playing on the Right side as we didn't have another RHS centre back (Denis is good temporarily but not permanently).
Bryan gets caught out of position but that comes from not being a natural full back but being converted, I don't think any of the issues with those players are down to Ream, who is by no means perfect in his positioning or skills himself
If we'd signed Mawson for £3m everyone on here would be saying he's been fantastic, a revelation, and should be one of the first names on the team sheet
Quote from: Statto on January 29, 2020, 04:21:08 PM
If we'd signed Mawson for £3m everyone on here would be saying he's been fantastic, a revelation, and should be one of the first names on the team sheet
If ifs were ands and ands were buts, but unfortunately he was not cheap.
Hector and Mawson could form a good partnership. Mawson might finally get to play in his best position and we might actually get to see the best of him.
Quote from: gang on January 29, 2020, 04:26:44 PM
Quote from: Statto on January 29, 2020, 04:21:08 PM
If we'd signed Mawson for £3m everyone on here would be saying he's been fantastic, a revelation, and should be one of the first names on the team sheet
If ifs were ands and ands were buts, but unfortunately he was not cheap.
But the fee we paid for him shouldn't be a factor in judgments and comments about how good he is as a player
For example, it seems to be agreed on here that Odoi is our best right back but I suspect if he'd cost £25m, many would be saying he's crap and not as good as Christie
Quote from: Statto on January 29, 2020, 04:21:08 PM
If we'd signed Mawson for £3m everyone on here would be saying he's been fantastic, a revelation, and should be one of the first names on the team sheet
I'm afraid I disagree here, not matter his price I for one could not see myself saying that. The fee is not his fault, but from what I have seen of his time here I think he has been poor.
Afraid I feel that Mawson makes a set of three failed recent centre back signings along with Spearman and Sigurdsson. Hopeful that Hector will break the mould.
Regardless of price tag, if we can get Mawson back to prior levels of match fitness and confidence levels, he gets into this team. But his performances particularly this year have been mostly poor, more poor than good i'd say so I'd be reluctant to bring him back in in front of other players. I still think he's not the same player after his injury but time will tell.
Whether he cost £30m, £3m or £30k is, to me, irrelevant. IMO he has played poorly too often in his time with us.
Quote from: Statto on January 29, 2020, 04:21:08 PM
If we'd signed Mawson for £3m everyone on here would be saying he's been fantastic, a revelation, and should be one of the first names on the team sheet
Statto ... look at the replies above. Many on the forum disagree with your perception of Mawson. I don't expect you to change your views, just to respect those of others.
Quote from: Whitesideup on January 29, 2020, 09:12:19 PM
Quote from: Statto on January 29, 2020, 04:21:08 PM
If we'd signed Mawson for £3m everyone on here would be saying he's been fantastic, a revelation, and should be one of the first names on the team sheet
Statto ... look at the replies above. Many on the forum disagree with your perception of Mawson. I don't expect you to change your views, just to respect those of others.
It was clearly Statto's view, not a claim of absolute truth, so I don't really see the problem and I certainly see no disrespect. Also, all those comments from others are made after the fact, so not really relevant to the point he's making, is it? Just like he can't prove his claim, no one here can really disprove it either.
Michael Hector and Alfie Mawson together in the centre would be awesome.
Quote from: Whitesideup on January 29, 2020, 09:12:19 PM
Quote from: Statto on January 29, 2020, 04:21:08 PM
If we'd signed Mawson for £3m everyone on here would be saying he's been fantastic, a revelation, and should be one of the first names on the team sheet
Statto ... look at the replies above. Many on the forum disagree with your perception of Mawson. I don't expect you to change your views, just to respect those of others.
Many on the forum also think Tim Ream is having a good season. So, you know...
Mawson has been a huge disappointment considering what we thought we were getting. He is competent enough for this division but I have seen nothing to suggest he would or should get anywhere near the first team if we were to get back up and recent selections indicates that Parker is thinking along those lines as well. Ream has performed better alongside Hector than with Mawson but his challenge and sending off on Sunday was a disgrace. Time will be needed for the new defenders to bed in but for now, with Ream out Mawson has to play if fit.
Quote from: Motspur Park on January 29, 2020, 11:24:53 PM
Mawson has been a huge disappointment considering what we thought we were getting.
What about if you disregard what you "thought we were getting"?
I thought he was terrible at first. When he was being outpaced, he resorted to shoving, fouling and bullying attackers, often giving away cheap free kicks. He has been okay this season but has done nothing to set the world alight. Like I say, he is fine for this division but I have seen nothing to suggest he can play at the next level. I didn't see him play for Swansea but he arrived with a big reputation and I was expecting better. Regardless, my opinion is on what I have seen, not his value, which I totally get what you are saying.
And getting back to the original thread topic ....... credit to Scott for a) having faith in AK when just about nobody else did b) screwing AK's head back on his shoulders, this time the right way round c) turning him into a striker we now see as a more than competent Championship player
Quote from: Statto on January 29, 2020, 11:29:18 PM
Quote from: Motspur Park on January 29, 2020, 11:24:53 PM
Mawson has been a huge disappointment considering what we thought we were getting.
What about if you disregard what you "thought we were getting"?
I think most people think for £15m you get a player as good as Harry Maguire only younger. Even though Alfie Mawson cost less than 1/5th the price of Harry Maguire before he hurt himself tiring his shoelaces. Even Lewis Dunk, whose not young, might be £40m these days and we couldn't afford that upon promotion.
Mawson was good value at the time, injuries haven't been kind to him so his value dropped and he still improves the squad even if he is not always a certain starter going forward, but equally Mawson could turn out to be a top defender when not partnering Ream. Frankly, while Ream often looks good, everyone around Ream on the field has looked pretty rubbish for a while, I am looking forward to seeing these players (especially Bryan, Mawson and Reed) without Ream next to them.
Quote from: Snibbo on January 30, 2020, 02:13:40 AM
And getting back to the original thread topic ....... credit to Scott for a) having faith in AK when just about nobody else did b) screwing AK's head back on his shoulders, this time the right way round c) turning him into a striker we now see as a more than competent Championship player
Agreed. We have certainly missed him. How long has AK been back in training? Could he make the starting line up Saturday? Hopefully at least the bench. Any news on Kebano?
Quote from: Snibbo on January 30, 2020, 02:13:40 AM
And getting back to the original thread topic ....... credit to Scott for a) having faith in AK when just about nobody else did b) screwing AK's head back on his shoulders, this time the right way round c) turning him into a striker we now see as a more than competent Championship player
Think you need to replace "just about nobody else" with "everybody else except Ranieri and a few posters on here"
Quote from: Statto on January 30, 2020, 08:15:48 AM
Quote from: Snibbo on January 30, 2020, 02:13:40 AM
And getting back to the original thread topic ....... credit to Scott for a) having faith in AK when just about nobody else did b) screwing AK's head back on his shoulders, this time the right way round c) turning him into a striker we now see as a more than competent Championship player
Think you need to replace "just about nobody else" with "everybody else except Ranieri and a few posters on here"
Statto, I think you need to replace "just about nobody else" with "everybody else except a few posters on here and Ranieri after Huddersfield penalty incident". Raneri played Kamara in every single one of the game upto Huddersfield often as a super-sub and even McDonald said that Mawson and Kamara fitted Raneri's style but not many others.
I think Parker deserves some praise for i) having faith in AK when just about everyone else did too, ii) doing obvious things correct like playing Mitrovic at centre forward and not at right-back and iii) getting the most expensive squad in the league to fourth, which much better than Stoke taking the 2nd most expensive squad in the league into a relegation battle with three teams higher than you that spent less than £10m on their entire squad.
Parker is not a useless manager, but he is too inexperienced to be the best option to manage us now and once he gains that experience, if we don't get promoted, we will be too smaller club for him to stay with us. I doubt he will repay the loyalty we have shown in him when premier league teams come begging.
Quote from: Statto on January 30, 2020, 08:15:48 AM
Quote from: Snibbo on January 30, 2020, 02:13:40 AM
And getting back to the original thread topic ....... credit to Scott for a) having faith in AK when just about nobody else did b) screwing AK's head back on his shoulders, this time the right way round c) turning him into a striker we now see as a more than competent Championship player
Think you need to replace "just about nobody else" with "everybody else except Ranieri and a few posters on here"
Reminds me of why I've stayed off this board for a long time.
Is Knock still hurt?
Quote from: Snibbo on January 30, 2020, 09:52:35 AM
Quote from: Statto on January 30, 2020, 08:15:48 AM
Quote from: Snibbo on January 30, 2020, 02:13:40 AM
And getting back to the original thread topic ....... credit to Scott for a) having faith in AK when just about nobody else did b) screwing AK's head back on his shoulders, this time the right way round c) turning him into a striker we now see as a more than competent Championship player
Think you need to replace "just about nobody else" with "everybody else except Ranieri and a few posters on here"
Reminds me of why I've stayed off this board for a long time.
Lol, really?!
If you're that thin-skinned I strongly advise against using the internet or TV or leaving the house.
I think it simply comes down to a few things. Writing players off is a mistake. In the same way as praising them as a great player for the future. Fact is Mawson has looked decidedly iffy. But then he hasn't been comfortable in the position he is playing in. He doesn't seem to find playing with the other defenders we have that easy. If he plays in his right position and alongside a decent player than we will see.
As for Kamara, his speed and bulldozer approach has always outweighed his poor touch and temperament. Players are like any human being. They like to feel they belong. I have a feeling that the players seem to feel that under Parker. Hence why we have signed so many loan players on permanent contracts already. Yes it helps us give space for more loans but players wouldn't sign if they felt unhappy. Kamara just seems to play with a little bit less tension. He still will have his problems with touch etc. But he will and always has scared defenders with his approach.
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 30, 2020, 01:37:12 PM
Writing players off is a mistake. In the same way as praising them as a great player for the future.
Before FFP writing players off means, the owner pulled out the checkbook to fix the quality hole on the team.
After FFP writing players off means, if they stay at the club, then they won't be motivated to fight for us.
After FFP writing players off means, if they leave the club, then they can only be replaced with money raised from the sale.
The result of "writing players off" is often that players are sold for almost nothing and so the squad gets smaller by one.
Understand the relief that AK is back to fill a (short term) hole but cannot understand why he's so highly rated by some on this board. Personally, once others are back, I would ignore him. He brings nothing to the game and is a liability. Much rather see a youngster get a chance.
He has only had two days training and it must be doubtful if he will play on Saturday and certainly not for 90 minutes.it may be that only Kebano will be back.