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Title: Heading to be banned for U 18´s in training
Post by: grandad on February 06, 2020, 12:44:11 PM
Bit hard for any budding CB´s & Centre forwards. How will they be able to learn the skills required to head a ball correctly?
Title: Re: Heading to be banned for U 18´s in training
Post by: WhiteJC on February 06, 2020, 12:53:47 PM
perhaps they'll be forced to use something like this?

(https://www.prodirectrugby.com/productimages/V3_1_Main/101237_Main_Thumb_0605985.jpg?imwidth=768)

Title: Re: Heading to be banned for U 18´s in training
Post by: Carborundum on February 06, 2020, 05:58:54 PM
The refreshingly forthright view of a young centreback I know questioned how it can be banned for training but not matches. And offered the view that no-one was going to stop him heading the ball.  Centrebacks are like that.

I think maybe the real story here is that they aren't banning it for matches and thats being dressed up to keep people happy.
Title: Re: Heading to be banned for U 18´s in training
Post by: MikeTheCubed on February 06, 2020, 06:44:39 PM
Practising corners will be interesting...
Title: Re: Heading to be banned for U 18´s in training
Post by: WolverineFFC on February 06, 2020, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: grandad on February 06, 2020, 12:44:11 PM
Bit hard for any budding CB´s & Centre forwards. How will they be able to learn the skills required to head a ball correctly?

The fan in me agrees, but then I remind myself the goal is also for the younger people to remember the other things they learned as well. It is helpful not to hit their head against an object repetitively to achieve this.

I think the real argument is at what age it starts, not whether it should or should not happen with youth players.
Title: Re: Heading to be banned for U 18´s in training
Post by: General on February 06, 2020, 08:28:27 PM
I agree for it being U12s but 15/16 above.. whilst there may be statistics and cases of kids having adverse affects I'd be curious to know if that it a selected group or a majority. Having played rugby and football and a martial art and having lots of contemporaries doing the same and having gone on to do well and be more than smart enough I can't help but think this is over blowing it just a bit.
Title: Re: Heading to be banned for U 18´s in training
Post by: The Rational Fan on February 07, 2020, 01:07:24 AM
Quote from: grandad on February 06, 2020, 12:44:11 PM
Bit hard for any budding CB´s & Centre forwards. How will they be able to learn the skills required to head a ball correctly?

Simple, most of the budding under 18 CB´s & CF's are unaffected by these laws, as they live outside the UK until they are at least 16-17 years old.
Title: Re: Heading to be banned for U 18´s in training
Post by: RaySmith on February 07, 2020, 01:24:03 AM
I think most studies are related to players who  used to regularly head the old leather balls, which absorbed water and became  even  heavier, not the  current lightweight ball.

I suppose it's hard to find conclusive evidence anyway, but not surprising this ban has happened in the current climate.

I think boxing must be more of risk for brain damage, and not just for the very young , though i know they, and all amateurs wear protective headgear.
Title: Re: Heading to be banned for U 18´s in training
Post by: The Rational Fan on February 07, 2020, 02:51:19 AM
Quote from: MikeTheCubed on February 06, 2020, 06:44:39 PM
Practising corners will be interesting...

Goals from corners are going down every season and corners in the top divisions are getting boring.
Maybe a rule change that punishes the defending team more for kicking it out may be an improvement.

If a rule change that makes corners safer, more interesting and more likely to score. FA DO IT  :wine:

One proposed rule change is to reduce the number of defenders in the box for corner kicks, so some players don't participate (e.g. ex-injured players)
Another proposed rule change is to allow players to dribble the ball out of corner kicks, so someone will have to mark the corner taker.
Another proposed rule change is to make the corner circle bigger by 3 yards and change the rules so the run-up starts within the field of play.
There could be many more.
Title: Re: Heading to be banned for U 18´s in training
Post by: grandad on February 07, 2020, 08:47:24 AM
If players get possible brain damage from heading the beach balls they use these days they must have egg shell heads.
Title: Re: Heading to be banned for U 18´s in training
Post by: MJG on February 07, 2020, 11:21:53 AM
Quote from: MikeTheCubed on February 06, 2020, 06:44:39 PM
Practising corners will be interesting...
Waste of everyones time and effort anyway, less than 3% of corners result in a goal.
Title: Re: Heading to be banned for U 18´s in training
Post by: MikeTheCubed on February 07, 2020, 11:43:08 AM
Quote from: MJG on February 07, 2020, 11:21:53 AM
Quote from: MikeTheCubed on February 06, 2020, 06:44:39 PM
Practising corners will be interesting...
Waste of everyones time and effort anyway, less than 3% of corners result in a goal.

That's because of Fulham bringing down the average  :dft012:.
Title: Re: Heading to be banned for U 18´s in training
Post by: grandad on February 07, 2020, 12:16:43 PM
I recently looked at the 1975 FA Cup Final. Hardly a ball was played in the air by either side. So refreshing & better to watch than hoof ball.
Title: Re: Heading to be banned for U 18´s in training
Post by: filham on February 07, 2020, 12:51:34 PM
We need more information on the risks involved especially with the modern game where a lighter ball is used and more and more football is played on the ground.
At the same time perhaps some trial games could take place where heading is not allowed. I remember Zamora generally managed to bring high balls from goal kicks under control with his chest, this lead to a better game.

Boxing just has to result in damage to the body and the problem here has to be addressed before football.
Title: Re: Heading to be banned for U 18´s in training
Post by: jarv on February 07, 2020, 02:16:11 PM
Playing at school, I dont recall heading the ball. No need when you play every day, usually 3v3 or 5v5 depending who was in the playground, down the park etc. The ball was always on the ground. At 16, I started playing in a men's league, very little heading but I was the skinny kid crossing balls in from the wing.