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Title: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on February 19, 2020, 08:42:25 PM
Allegri has been out of work a year almost. Offer him what he wants,  tactically anyone who's watched his teams know he's one of the best in the world. Offer him the FFC job now and I'm certain he'd get us up. Big wages offset by Premiership fortune.
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: alfie on February 19, 2020, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on February 19, 2020, 08:42:25 PM
Been out of work a year almost. Offer him what he wants,  tactically anyone who's watched his teams know he's one of the best in the world. Offer him the FFC job now and I'm certain he'd get us up. Big wages offset by Premiership fortune.
Why has he been out of work for almost a year?
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on February 19, 2020, 09:25:14 PM
Quote from: alfie on February 19, 2020, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on February 19, 2020, 08:42:25 PM
Been out of work a year almost. Offer him what he wants,  tactically anyone who's watched his teams know he's one of the best in the world. Offer him the FFC job now and I'm certain he'd get us up. Big wages offset by Premiership fortune.
Why has he been out of work for almost a year?

Not asked him,  maybe not fancied what he's been offered, was superb at Juventus... a challenge in England and good wages may appeal
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: filham on February 19, 2020, 10:07:51 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on February 19, 2020, 09:25:14 PM
Quote from: alfie on February 19, 2020, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on February 19, 2020, 08:42:25 PM
Been out of work a year almost. Offer him what he wants,  tactically anyone who's watched his teams know he's one of the best in the world. Offer him the FFC job now and I'm certain he'd get us up. Big wages offset by Premiership fortune.
Why has he been out of work for almost a year?

Not asked him,  maybe not fancied what he's been offered, was superb at Juventus... a challenge in England and good wages may appeal
What is his Championship experience.
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: ByTheRiver on February 19, 2020, 10:09:28 PM
Allegri is not coming to Fulham sadly. Though, obviously, I would support it wholeheartedly if it were to happen, if we flag down a cab and head to Reality Street, it's not.


I would imagine he will take over at Utd when they finally relieve Ole of a job that is too big for him. A similar situation there as with us really thinking about it. Always doing just enough to remain in the post, or make it difficult to be removed, whilst it being glaringly obvious that they are never going to be operating at the level required.
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on February 19, 2020, 10:52:42 PM

Tigana, Ranieri, even Jol & Magath were all big names in the scheme of things also who thought we could sign EVDS? If you don't ask, you dont get, Allegri has been out of work close to a year, so why not try? Apparently we tried for Wenger, what's to stop us showing  ambition & why settle for mediocrity and the dull & inexperienced (and tactically naive) Parker?? Try Allegri,  try Benitez (championship experienced) ... so no not daft.
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: Bassey the warrior on February 20, 2020, 12:48:31 PM

Allegri is out of work because he wants a big job. Same with Poch. You have to be at least vaguely realistic, this is just silly.
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: Neil D on February 20, 2020, 01:11:11 PM
It would be somewhat churlish to sack Parker after getting us back to the PL.  I would like to see Allegri here (in principle) but we paid for our hubris in the summer of 2018 and a lesson should be learnt.
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: Dr Quinzel on February 20, 2020, 01:27:12 PM
Wouldn't be surprised to see him end up at Barcelona or Man United. I like your gumption though!
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: ByTheRiver on February 20, 2020, 02:37:45 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on February 19, 2020, 10:52:42 PM

Tigana, Ranieri, even Jol & Magath were all big names in the scheme of things also who thought we could sign EVDS? If you don't ask, you dont get, Allegri has been out of work close to a year, so why not try? Apparently we tried for Wenger, what's to stop us showing  ambition & why settle for mediocrity and the dull & inexperienced (and tactically naive) Parker?? Try Allegri,  try Benitez (championship experienced) ... so no not daft.

I wasn't having a dig, fella. Just being realistic. The names you mentioned above, whilst, yeah okay, they were relatively big names, hadn't just won four back-to-back doubles in one of Europe's top leagues.

He has been out of work for a year, solely as he is waiting for a big job (on the back of aforementioned recent/current achievements). Bigger than any other Italian club could offer which, to my mind, means he is probably looking at 8-10 clubs tops. Of which, as much as I wish they were, Fulham are probably not yet one of those.

Would 100% make a call/drop an email (however these things are initially started) to Benitez though. That would fall into the 'unlikely, but worth a pop' category. Allegri, at this current time, not.
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on February 20, 2020, 04:15:58 PM
Well there you go ... Benitez then!
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: Southcoastffc on February 20, 2020, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on February 20, 2020, 04:15:58 PM
Well there you go ... Benitez then!
If only........
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: Forever Fulham on February 20, 2020, 08:40:15 PM
 "You don't ask, you don't get."   
Is there another league as exciting and with as many quality clubs as the Premier right now?
He'd be managing a club owned by a multi-billionaire.  A club that had been in that league for years and got back in it last season. 
A team that might be playing Liverpool next season.  (God, help us.)  In my mind, we have positional story to tell and sell. 
Why not Fulham, I say.  How's his English?
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: ByTheRiver on February 20, 2020, 09:00:13 PM
Quote from: Forever Fulham on February 20, 2020, 08:40:15 PM
"You don't ask, you don't get."   
Is there another league as exciting and with as many quality clubs as the Premier right now?
He'd be managing a club owned by a multi-billionaire.  A club that had been in that league for years and got back in it last season. 
A team that might be playing Liverpool next season.  (God, help us.)  In my mind, we have positional story to tell and sell. 
Why not Fulham, I say.  How's his English?

I think Tony Khan should give Klopp a call. Try and tempt him. Maybe even with Pep as his assistant. The dream team.
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on February 21, 2020, 07:48:56 AM
If people think Allegri or Benitez unrealistic then elsewhere I've suggested others who I genuinely believe to be upgrades on Parker. Sanchez Flores, Montella, Pellegrini, Hughton, Ainsworth, Gracia, Kovac. Its not as though alternatives aren't out there.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: MikeTheCubed on February 21, 2020, 09:09:35 AM
Read his name as Allergi for a second.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Jim© on February 21, 2020, 11:08:29 AM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on February 21, 2020, 07:48:56 AM
If people think Allegri or Benitez unrealistic then elsewhere I've suggested others who I genuinely believe to be upgrades on Parker. Sanchez Flores, Montella, Pellegrini, Hughton, Ainsworth, Gracia, Kovac. Its not as though alternatives aren't out there.

I genuinely believe that it would be de-stabilising and detrimental to our season to change manager now. We are in the mix, we have a chance and despite a horror show last saturday (mainly from Rodak), we are in third position. Changing now would be counter-productive IMO.
Sounds like Ranieri all over again, and those same people 6 months on wanting Slavisa back. 
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 21, 2020, 11:20:00 AM
Quote from: Jim© on February 21, 2020, 11:08:29 AM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on February 21, 2020, 07:48:56 AM
If people think Allegri or Benitez unrealistic then elsewhere I've suggested others who I genuinely believe to be upgrades on Parker. Sanchez Flores, Montella, Pellegrini, Hughton, Ainsworth, Gracia, Kovac. Its not as though alternatives aren't out there.


I genuinely believe that it would be de-stabilising and detrimental to our season to change manager now. We are in the mix, we have a chance and despite a horror show last saturday (mainly from Rodak), we are in third position. Changing now would be counter-productive IMO.
Sounds like Ranieri all over again, and those same people 6 months on wanting Slavisa back. 

Jim c The voice of reason and sanity on a forum
full of panic merchants and fickle people. I suppose it's Parker's fault Rodak had a poor game v Barnsley.  :doh:
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: ByTheRiver on February 21, 2020, 11:41:59 AM
Quote from: Jim© on February 21, 2020, 11:08:29 AM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on February 21, 2020, 07:48:56 AM
If people think Allegri or Benitez unrealistic then elsewhere I've suggested others who I genuinely believe to be upgrades on Parker. Sanchez Flores, Montella, Pellegrini, Hughton, Ainsworth, Gracia, Kovac. Its not as though alternatives aren't out there.

I genuinely believe that it would be de-stabilising and detrimental to our season to change manager now. We are in the mix, we have a chance and despite a horror show last saturday (mainly from Rodak), we are in third position. Changing now would be counter-productive IMO.
Sounds like Ranieri all over again, and those same people 6 months on wanting Slavisa back. 

It's by the by, but some of us never wanted Slavisa gone in the first place and made this quite clear at the time.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: filham on February 21, 2020, 11:45:36 AM
Consult MAF to see how he found Roy.
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: grandad on February 21, 2020, 01:04:15 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on February 20, 2020, 04:15:58 PM
Well there you go ... Benitez then!
He has a history of heart problems. Coming to us would kill him.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: ByTheRiver on February 21, 2020, 01:30:06 PM
Quote from: grandad on February 21, 2020, 01:04:15 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on February 20, 2020, 04:15:58 PM
Well there you go ... Benitez then!
He has a history of heart problems. Coming to us would kill him.

There is an old Chinese proverb I feel is relevant here: He who can survive Newcastle and Mike Ashley, can survive anything.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on February 21, 2020, 02:42:28 PM
Quote from: grandad on February 21, 2020, 01:04:15 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on February 20, 2020, 04:15:58 PM
Well there you go ... Benitez then!
He has a history of heart problems. Coming to us would kill him.

Er, so do most Fulham fans Grandad - have heart problems that is!
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Statto on February 22, 2020, 02:03:21 PM
Tony Mowbray
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: 70sPimlico on February 22, 2020, 03:44:39 PM
King Kevin
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: SP on February 22, 2020, 03:47:02 PM
Keit Andrews? - he thinks he's a master tactician.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: grandad on February 22, 2020, 03:57:29 PM
Not many feasible alternatives then, in fact none.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: sarnian on February 22, 2020, 03:59:36 PM
Quote from: SP on February 22, 2020, 03:47:02 PM
Keit Andrews? - he thinks he's a master tactician.

So do most website posters :hook:
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Ronnief on February 22, 2020, 04:13:10 PM
Jose Mourinho will be knocking on Khans door when he is sacked by Spurs.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: grandad on February 22, 2020, 04:38:25 PM
Quote from: Ronnief on February 22, 2020, 04:13:10 PM
Jose Mourinho will be knocking on Khans door when he is sacked by Spurs.

Hope they keep the door locked & bolted.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 22, 2020, 04:43:28 PM
Mourihnio is a one trick pony, and an expensive one at that, a busted flush.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Steeeeeeeeeed on February 22, 2020, 05:06:21 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on February 22, 2020, 03:44:39 PM
King Kevin

Absolutely, would be great to have him back in football for a start, and I think he just brings great passion and a feel good feeling to his work. In his autobiography he says he loved his time at Fulham and felt regret at leaving for England... I think he would do a great job, again.

Once he knows he has the backing of his chairman he can really enjoy his work, which always seems paramount to him... Would be great for him to have one last    challenge in football.

Also, he almost guarantees exciting , entertaining footbball,.

If not Keegan then I would still.like to see Wenger
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: ByTheRiver on February 22, 2020, 05:22:11 PM
Quote from: Statto on February 22, 2020, 02:03:21 PM
Tony Mowbray

That is actually a very good shout.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: The Old Count on February 22, 2020, 05:38:18 PM
Quote from: filham on February 21, 2020, 11:45:36 AM
Consult MAF to see how he found Roy.

Roy was recommended To Mr Al Fayed by Franco Baresi. 
Title: Re: Massimiliano Allegri
Post by: AnOldBrownie on February 22, 2020, 05:50:48 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on February 21, 2020, 07:48:56 AM
If people think Allegri or Benitez unrealistic then elsewhere I've suggested others who I genuinely believe to be upgrades on Parker. Sanchez Flores, Montella, Pellegrini, Hughton, Ainsworth, Gracia, Kovac. Its not as though alternatives aren't out there.

This list would make a good topic for the end of the season. (Parker isn't going anywhere before then...unless the Khan's sell the club)

I'd personally take Slav back but discussing impossibles seems pointless imo.

I'm going to read up on your suggestions though. See if I can find game clips.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on February 22, 2020, 07:19:24 PM
Quote from: grandad on February 22, 2020, 03:57:29 PM
Not many feasible alternatives then, in fact none.

Beg to differ, a bunch of available managers all better than Parker and surely none more boring in their chosen style.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Asotosyios on February 22, 2020, 08:23:13 PM
Gus Poyet
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2020, 08:28:04 PM
Kylie Minogue.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: SP on February 22, 2020, 08:37:57 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2020, 08:28:04 PM
Kylie Minogue.

Can I be the first to say: 'You should be so lucky!'
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Asotosyios on February 22, 2020, 08:47:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2020, 08:28:04 PM
Kylie Minogue.

But does she play possession-based football?  :dft011:

I don't expect Parker to go now, but it might be a different story in the summer. Poyet can be a bit difficult, but his teams have always played good football. He reminds me of Jokanovic, for some reason.

A couple of articles for anyone who is not doing anything on this Saturday night.

https://www.coachesvoice.com/gus-poyet-brighton-sunderland/

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sunderland-verdict-gus-poyet-swansea-16381180
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Fulham76 on February 22, 2020, 08:56:48 PM
Quote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on February 22, 2020, 05:06:21 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on February 22, 2020, 03:44:39 PM
King Kevin

Absolutely, would be great to have him back in football for a start, and I think he just brings great passion and a feel good feeling to his work. In his autobiography he says he loved his time at Fulham and felt regret at leaving for England... I think he would do a great job, again.

Once he knows he has the backing of his chairman he can really enjoy his work, which always seems paramount to him... Would be great for him to have one last    challenge in football.

Also, he almost guarantees exciting , entertaining footbball,.

If not Keegan then I would still.like to see Wenger

This would be brilliant IMO.

Although, just Googled him & he's 69! How did that happen??!!
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: SP on February 22, 2020, 09:13:48 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2020, 08:28:04 PM
Kylie Minogue.

Just checked her recording history & she recorded a song titled: 'Black and White' - spooky.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Fulham Tup North on February 22, 2020, 11:36:58 PM
Quote from: SP on February 22, 2020, 08:37:57 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2020, 08:28:04 PM
Kylie Minogue.

Can I be the first to say: 'You should be so lucky!'

Probably 'better the devil you know' !!!:)
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: MikeCdawg on February 23, 2020, 04:42:56 AM
We have 0% chance of getting allegri. Quit dreaming.

The best I can think of is Chris hughton or Nigel Pearson when he inevitably gets sacked by Watford. Just being realistic, these aren't my ideal managers
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: alfie on February 23, 2020, 10:30:10 AM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on February 22, 2020, 07:19:24 PM
Quote from: grandad on February 22, 2020, 03:57:29 PM
Not many feasible alternatives then, in fact none.

Beg to differ, a bunch of available managers all better than Parker and surely none more boring in their chosen style.
They may all be considered better than Parker, but that is no guarantee they will be.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Mr K.Dilkington on February 23, 2020, 08:23:05 PM
POCHETTINO! He's a ffc fan because of Sava,snap that mother up!
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Dixie on February 24, 2020, 12:23:16 PM
Quote from: MikeCdawg on February 23, 2020, 04:42:56 AM
We have 0% chance of getting allegri. Quit dreaming.

The best I can think of is Chris hughton or Nigel Pearson when he inevitably gets sacked by Watford. Just being realistic, these aren't my ideal managers

If you think that the football Fulham plays is boring, try speaking to a Brighton fan about how they were performing under Hughton!

It wasn't so long ago that many people were keen to get Danny Murphy in as coach/manager, but he has even less managerial experience than Parker... so i don't get the constant references to lack of experience

Under Ranieri, we had a squad of players who clearly weren't playing for the manager. Parker completely turned that round and restored at least a bit of pride and he still has credit in the bank for me.

Someone earlier in this thread mentioned that a lot of us wanted Slav to stay, i was definitely one of those. His teams never came good until after November! the khans should have known that...
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: H4usuallysitting on February 24, 2020, 07:56:31 PM
Has big Sam been mentioned
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: Nero on February 24, 2020, 08:13:09 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on February 24, 2020, 07:56:31 PM
Has big Sam been mentioned

Get Warnock in for the last 12 games he'll get the ball up to Mitro
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: SP on February 24, 2020, 09:08:36 PM
Quote from: Nero on February 24, 2020, 08:13:09 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on February 24, 2020, 07:56:31 PM
Has big Sam been mentioned

Get Warnock in for the last 12 games he'll get the ball up to Mitro

As much as this suggestion turns my stomach, I really can't disagree with the sentiment.
Title: Re: Possible alternatives to Parker
Post by: H4usuallysitting on February 24, 2020, 10:07:39 PM
Big Sam, Pulis & Warnock..... we've had 2 manager's in the past - why not 3