I know both results have been fantastic this week, but I don't care about that. How did the team actually play. Did they look more like a team and have purpose or was it more of the same. Has Parker actually learnt something and is now commanding credit or was it individual talent getting him out of a hole again. Ps well done ak, still my favourite player
Like last week, some very nice fluid play and SO much more solid defensively. Missing the killer instinct in the penalty box, though, and our corners are generally dreadful. But overall, deserved both wins this week undoubtedly.
Two good performances. Team performances. If anything it is the "talented individuals ", that havent performed. Cairney is the onvious exception to this and has put in 2 fine displays. Quality on the ballwe expect , but hes added fight and determination. " TWo complete performances from him. We can do this.
It seems I've seen a different game to a few others today, even though I was at the match. So who knows. We won as others have mentioned and kept a clean sheet, preston could've scored and arguably should've but didn't.. maybe I'm too critical, but something just seems off/odd about the way we're playing at the moment.
If I was to change any two things from today? Swap Cavaleiro and knockaert back to their natural sides and put Kmac in instead of Arter.
Arter was excellent today. Cavalero and knockaert didnt live up to their billings again for me.Slow the play down too much and lose the ball too much for me. Also thought we looked much more solid when Christie came on. It gave us defensive balance.
Agreed, Arter was brilliant. He did what a DMF needs to do and break up plays left, right and centre. That's exactly what he did. His aggression was a good contrast to Cairney's subtle touches as well. I am not against Kmac either, but have to give credit where it's due.
Overall, we were out of sync in the defensive third. Mitro showing to the ball when we are on the sides to cross to him, forcing Christie to cut in and get into the box instead for example. We also tried to play the ball to Mitro's feet from the back as well, but the pressure on him was unreal.
Think we looked good overall, just a matter of the final ball. Have to give credit to Odoi who has really became quite solid as this season has gone along. He definitely redeemed himself from the reverse fixture.
Main thing for me is the team are fighting for the results. The last two performances have been more solid. Stand outs today for me were Christie and Hector. AK brings speed and he frightens opponents. A good week for Fulham.
Quote from: colinwhite on February 29, 2020, 07:11:44 PM
Arter was excellent today. Cavalero and knockaert didnt live up to their billings again for me.Slow the play down too much and lose the ball too much for me. Also thought we looked much more solid when Christie came on. It gave us defensive balance.
No mention of Reid. I thought he went missing most of the game and not the first time recently!
Noted just now that we played similarly to West Brom when they played Preston this week, although they scored two when Preston had a player sent off in the 64th minute.. Makes us look better when you put the fact that West Brom had the same scoreline but with an extra man advantage for 30 mins.
He ran his socks off( Reid) . Very important when we pressed them even though he didnt have that many touches of the ball. We didnt just surrender the secong ball either. He was vital in second phase.
I thought we were 2nd best first half today but made up for it second half.
I loathed to dig out individuals but I can't believe we've bought cav , for me he offers very little.
Give credit to Parker, 6 points from those last two games is great. The performances were OK, we are struggling to score but our defence is much improved. Just wish Cav, Knock and Reid could get on the list of goal scorers now and again.
Quote from: colinwhite on February 29, 2020, 08:21:22 PM
He ran his socks off( Reid) . Very important when we pressed them even though he didnt have that many touches of the ball. We didnt just surrender the secong ball either. He was vital in second phase.
:plus one:
Pretty dreadful game all round tbh.
Preston came for a draw and nearly got it.
Cav and Knock very poor.
Got a lucky goal and scored in injury time, so it looks better than it was. Desperatly dull game imo.
You didn't miss much Ben.
The win was needed tho.
You missed a rather fetching rainbow over the JH Stand.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on February 29, 2020, 08:37:03 PM
Pretty dreadful game all round tbh.
Preston came for a draw and nearly got it.
Cav and Knock very poor.
Got a lucky goal and scored in injury time, so it looks better than it was. Desperatly dull game imo.
You didn't miss much Ben.
Very enjoyable game all round tbh. We played the better football, PNE were a bit more physical. PNE huffed and puffed but didn't really look like ever getting on top. We are moving the ball more quickly and have cut down on the tippy tappy stuff.
You missed a second consecutive great day at the Cottage.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on February 29, 2020, 08:37:03 PM
Pretty dreadful game all round tbh.
Preston came for a draw and nearly got it.
Cav and Knock very poor.
Got a lucky goal and scored in injury time, so it looks better than it was. Desperatly dull game imo.
You didn't miss much Ben.
The win was needed tho.
Clearly I watched a different game, thoroughly enjoyable and a good result
First time all season that, for the last two games, I've been generally happy with TC, he's made a big difference and is not just passing backwards.
Quote from: fulhamben on February 29, 2020, 06:43:45 PM
I know both results have been fantastic this week, but I don't care about that. How did the team actually play. Did they look more like a team and have purpose or was it more of the same. Has Parker actually learnt something and is now commanding credit or was it individual talent getting him out of a hole again. Ps well done ak, still my favourite player
Scott Parker was brilliant before the match with his team selection and team talk, he was superb first half with his tactics. He was marvellous with his game management and substitutions in the second half, and was sensational in his post match interview after the game.
A wonderful man and fantastic coach and a glorious manager.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on February 29, 2020, 08:37:03 PM
Pretty dreadful game all round tbh.
Preston came for a draw and nearly got it.
Cav and Knock very poor.
Got a lucky goal and scored in injury time, so it looks better than it was. Desperatly dull game imo.
You didn't miss much Ben.
The win was needed tho.
Have to disagree with every word here.
To the OP - for some the result is more important than the gameplay, specially in this stage of the season. For some (apparently you) it's the opposite.
Thought it was a good game - both teams fought really hard and the tempo was alright during the whole game.
Guess you would be happy if we lost every single game and sitting in 24th while creating at least twenty 100%-goal scoring chances per game, only the opponents' keepers to deny us.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on February 29, 2020, 08:37:03 PM
Pretty dreadful game all round tbh.
Preston came for a draw and nearly got it.
Cav and Knock very poor.
Got a lucky goal and scored in injury time, so it looks better than it was. Desperatly dull game imo.
You didn't miss much Ben.
The win was needed tho.
You should have asked for your money back if you were that disappointed. So what if we scored in injury time, it still counts and is just as important and decisive as if we had scored in the 5th minute. Scoring injury time whilst 1 0 up shows that we were not sitting on our lead and were looking for more.
How was that a lucky goal, we were on top and having a good spell and you must score when we were on top and we did because the cross put nugent under pressure and that is why he tried to head the ball away, pressure creates goals, just as important whether we had scored with a diving header or an overhead kick. That's football at any level, you just want to see the opponents net bulging like a French Trawlermans.
Why bother going if you don't want to see own goals, last minute goals or any goals. The first 96 minutes are the most important.
So Ben actually missed quite a lot, and he will never be able to enjoy the moments we scored because he did not see it at the moments it happened.
There are all sorts of ways to win, as there is all sorts of ways to lose and draw.
But 3 points is the object of the exercise and you either accept the way it is achieved or you do not.
I once threw a boomerang years ago, and now I live in constant fear.
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Quote from: colinwhite on February 29, 2020, 07:11:44 PM
Arter was excellent today. Cavalero and knockaert didnt live up to their billings again for me.Slow the play down too much and lose the ball too much for me. Also thought we looked much more solid when Christie came on. It gave us defensive balance.
No mention of Reid. I thought he went missing most of the game and not the first time recently!
You're right, he disappeared for most of the game.
Woolly Mammoth "I once threw a boomerang years ago, and now I live in constant fear", Quality 064.gif
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Quote from: Skatzoffc on February 29, 2020, 08:37:03 PM
Pretty dreadful game all round tbh.
Preston came for a draw and nearly got it.
Cav and Knock very poor.
Got a lucky goal and scored in injury time, so it looks better than it was. Desperatly dull game imo.
You didn't miss much Ben.
The win was needed tho.
Have to disagree with every word here.
To the OP - for some the result is more important than the gameplay, specially in this stage of the season. For some (apparently you) it's the opposite.
Thought it was a good game - both teams fought really hard and the tempo was alright during the whole game.
Guess you would be happy if we lost every single game and sitting in 24th while creating at least twenty 100%-goal scoring chances per game, only the opponents' keepers to deny us.
Don't "guess what I'd like".
It's my opinion and I'm allowed it on this forum.
Butt out!
3 points. I thought Arter was loads better. Feel frustrated when Mitro has to come back to get the ball. Rodak great. Hector great. Kamara was delighted to score but surprised that he got the opportunity as he'd passed the ball in front of the goal & was surprised to get it back. Team better at gelling but wish we had a better ratio of hitting the target. We need to practice taking corners. Mitro needs & deserves better attacking support.
Fulham much better v Preston than on Wednesday.
Cav pretty useless, so why not AK47 earlier ?
Also Kev Mac has to play.Feed Cairney more and strength !
Cairney excellent Saturday, lovely to watch and after first 20 mins when we could have lost it, we were really good and solid.Anthony much better than Cav who with Bobby was well out of touch. Start AK47 and leave Cav on bench.Obviously.
Also small word in favour of Cyrus, up till now I rated him not at all, yesterday best game for FFC, great going forward and good crosses. Bryan not missed one bit. C'mon you whites !!!
Quote from: clarkey on March 01, 2020, 01:31:33 PM
Fulham much better v Preston than on Wednesday.
Cav pretty useless, so why not AK47 earlier ?
Also Kev Mac has to play.Feed Cairney more and strength !
Cairney excellent Saturday, lovely to watch and after first 20 mins when we could have lost it, we were really good and solid.Anthony much better than Cav who with Bobby was well out of touch. Start AK47 and leave Cav on bench.Obviously.
Also small word in favour of Cyrus, up till now I rated him not at all, yesterday best game for FFC, great going forward and good crosses. Bryan not missed one bit. C'mon you whites !!!
Feel sorry for BDR, he works his socks off and drives us forward more playing where he does. He's not getting the credit he deserves. Everyone is saying we are playing quicker over the last 2 games which coincides with him being part of the 3 with TC and Arter.
Quote from: SP on February 29, 2020, 08:40:44 PM
You missed a rather fetching rainbow over the JH Stand.
Yes my granddaughter appreciated that!
So it seems like there's been some improvement. Not gonna lie though staying away from the last two home games has really made me appreciate our league position a lot more. Hell I even think we can catch Brom now.
Cav does deserve credit for his part in our 2nd goal. When AK latched on to a perfect pass from BDR & sprinted forward Cav was bursting his lungs to keep pace through the middle. When he got fed by AK he saw that AK was in a better position to score.. If Cav had not done so their GK & a couple of defenders would have smothered any goal attempt. Credit where credit is due.
Quote from: grandad on March 01, 2020, 02:18:54 PM
Cav does deserve credit for his part in our 2nd goal. When AK latched on to a perfect pass from BDR & sprinted forward Cav was bursting his lungs to keep pace through the middle. When he got fed by AK he saw that AK was in a better position to score.. If Cav had not done so their GK & a couple of defenders would have smothered any goal attempt. Credit where credit is due.
as I said in the other post on this topic, both players were unselfish and picked out a player in a better position for the sake of the team. Kamara or cav would have been lambasted if they had taken it on and missed with players in better positions. It was unselfish football that ended up in a goal from a well worked counter
Quote from: snarks on March 01, 2020, 01:48:25 PM
Quote from: clarkey on March 01, 2020, 01:31:33 PM
Fulham much better v Preston than on Wednesday.
Cav pretty useless, so why not AK47 earlier ?
Also Kev Mac has to play.Feed Cairney more and strength !
Cairney excellent Saturday, lovely to watch and after first 20 mins when we could have lost it, we were really good and solid.Anthony much better than Cav who with Bobby was well out of touch. Start AK47 and leave Cav on bench.Obviously.
Also small word in favour of Cyrus, up till now I rated him not at all, yesterday best game for FFC, great going forward and good crosses. Bryan not missed one bit. C'mon you whites !!!
Feel sorry for BDR, he works his socks off and drives us forward more playing where he does. He's not getting the credit he deserves. Everyone is saying we are playing quicker over the last 2 games which coincides with him being part of the 3 with TC and Arter.
Well said, and I completely agree. Not only is he working as a point in that triangle, he's also dragging players out of position to open up our space. Do people think that we can move the ball as easily as we do without any movement off the ball? It's BDR's free movement that sets up the space to build into.
