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Title: Twitter
Post by: Jimsbeerbelly on April 07, 2020, 02:47:14 AM
What a vile, and horrible social media platform it has become.

I thought Facebook was bad, but, with Twitter, you're completely and utterly exposed.

Looked on Twitter tonight, and there is completely no control, no filters, with people saying what the hell they like, and getting away with it.

The place used to be ok for a bit of information, news etc, but now, everyone just wants to mug you off, be damn right nasty, and the comments about wishing Boris dead, are completely unacceptable.

That, along with the persistent racist comments, has finally persuaded me to rest my Twitter account.

 

Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on April 07, 2020, 03:35:59 AM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on April 07, 2020, 02:47:14 AM
What a vile, and horrible social media platform it has become.

I thought Facebook was bad, but, with Twitter, you're completely and utterly exposed.

Looked on Twitter tonight, and there is completely no control, no filters, with people saying what the hell they like, and getting away with it.

The place used to be ok for a bit of information, news etc, but now, everyone just wants to mug you off, be damn right nasty, and the comments about wishing Boris dead, are completely unacceptable.

That, along with the persistent racist comments, has finally persuaded me to rest my Twitter account.

 



I'm entirely off social media except for LinkedIn, and even with that I don't read or write comments - I only look at business related articles and upcoming job postings.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Milo on April 07, 2020, 05:30:02 AM
It's an interesting point because people who use FoF could well be using Twitter alongside. This means that people may be used to that cut-throat, unregulated wilderness and then transfer some of that atmosphere to here. It's difficult to moderate sometimes because you want to allow people freedom to speak, but then you have to draw the line at abusive posts and also think of the bigger picture (which is more of a problem now) in that small things add up to an atmosphere that creates fear to post.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: MJG on April 07, 2020, 07:04:18 AM
Twitter and how you use it depends a lot on who you follow. I use it more than here and while you can still mute people on fof I find it easier to do that on twitter as well as keeping lists of people and subjects you can just dive into.
I know a few on here who's persona on Twitter is different and are much more shall we say controversial.
There are some low lifes on twitter for sure and some may have seen one fulham fan and his tweet about Boris last night being absolutely disgusting. But dont take too much of a high moral ground about FOF, some posts are very close to the line and the mods do a very good job of controlling it, but some stuff from certain individuals is just bubbling under the surface towards being unacceptable.

In the end room for all types of SM and forums and quality on all can range from great to rubbish.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 07, 2020, 07:18:18 AM
People know far too much about others business nowadays, they seem to want other folks to know all about them.
In the paper the other day certain female singers from this country and USA going on Instragram whatever it is and showing themselves in isolation parading about in their underwear and whatever,have they no pride in themselves.
The sad thing is that there are millions out there following them,they need get a life.Big Ass Kardashian has 89 million followers on there,you would think a lot of young women would have someone more important to look up to,other than a person who has millions due to having a huge butt.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Southcoastffc on April 07, 2020, 09:27:32 AM
Quote from: MJG on April 07, 2020, 07:04:18 AM
Twitter and how you use it depends a lot on who you follow. I use it more than here and while you can still mute people on fof I find it easier to do that on twitter as well as keeping lists of people and subjects you can just dive into.
I know a few on here who's persona on Twitter is different and are much more shall we say controversial.
There are some low lifes on twitter for sure and some may have seen one fulham fan and his tweet about Boris last night being absolutely disgusting. But dont take too much of a high moral ground about FOF, some posts are very close to the line and the mods do a very good job of controlling it, but some stuff from certain individuals is just bubbling under the surface towards being unacceptable.

In the end room for all types of SM and forums and quality on all can range from great to rubbish.
:plus one: Very well put.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: grandad on April 07, 2020, 09:34:30 AM
I don´t use it a lot. I only follow a select few. Jamie Reid, MJG, Fulham players. I do like the banter between Lord Sugar & Piers Morgan.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Statto on April 07, 2020, 09:37:49 AM
I read Twitter but don't have an account. It's a good concept with the potential to enable or improve free speech, transparency, education, democracy etc, and for those reasons I support its existence. But I agree with the OP that the real thing is actually a horrible place. And the results of the last few elections and referendum have shown that the Twitter community is actually a peculiar minority and totally out of sync with the general population.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: FFC1987 on April 07, 2020, 10:03:22 AM
I've come to realise that actually Reddit is by far the most toxic social media platform now. Twitter is by no means a place I'd recommend for civil discussion but Reddit is a whole new sh*tshow. I don't use anything bar facebook anymore and that's mainly for the messenger groups I have with friends and strictly keep it apolitical. Maybe its an age thing, but I can't recall a more divisive time where very simple concepts in say, politics can't be discussed without accusations of some sort of bigotry unless you follow someone elses zealous doctrine.

As much as I hate it, I'm sure you can make a productive use of it like MJG says, but for me, it just wasn't worth the hassle. To try and prove that point, I strictly followed only football, Ice Hockey, Fulham, Gaming, Comics and a small amount of authors like Stephen King, and everyday, my timeline was still full of political grandstanding and shouting of 'isms' levied at people. Particularly, and I must say, as a liberal, a lot of talking down about 'white cis males' which seems to be normalised and fashionable to hurl insults at.

Each to their own but it wasn't for me.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Holders on April 07, 2020, 10:11:35 AM
I use Twitter, started a year or so back and finding it very useful for information on matters of interest and more up to date and unbiased than the MSM. I scarcely use it for Fulham-related stuff, although I follow a couple of people, As MJG says, you can always mute or block the most irritating or rude.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Statto on April 07, 2020, 10:25:36 AM
Quote from: Holders on April 07, 2020, 10:11:35 AM
more up to date and unbiased than the MSM

I don't mean to be patronising and maybe this doesn't apply to you but a lot of stuff on Twitter is, naturally, fake news. I agree about the bias in MSN but personally negate that by getting my news from a number of MSM sources across the spectrum. I also read Twitter but can't recall ever reading anything on Twitter (that I believed) that wasn't also reported in at least one MSM source (albeit probably not all of them).
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: FFC1987 on April 07, 2020, 10:40:59 AM
I would also never recommend Twitter for news. Its hugely weighted to the left and is very much full of false information. I'd argue more false than true by a sizeable margin.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Twig on April 07, 2020, 11:01:41 AM
Quote from: Statto on April 07, 2020, 09:37:49 AM
I read Twitter but don't have an account. It's a good concept with the potential to enable or improve free speech, transparency, education, democracy etc, and for those reasons I support its existence. But I agree with the OP that the real thing is actually a horrible place. And the results of the last few elections and referendum have shown that the Twitter community is actually a peculiar minority and totally out of sync with the general population.

Totally sums it up in my view.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Southcoastffc on April 07, 2020, 12:37:05 PM
I don't take Twitter very seriously - for information, it's a bit like Wikipedia in that anyone can pretty much say what they like - but mainly use it for a source of entertainment, Fulham-related stuff, various comedians and a couple of economists.   It's harmless and damaging, nice and nasty, depending on how you use it.

Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Holders on April 07, 2020, 12:47:32 PM
Quote from: Statto on April 07, 2020, 10:25:36 AM
Quote from: Holders on April 07, 2020, 10:11:35 AM
more up to date and unbiased than the MSM

I don't mean to be patronising and maybe this doesn't apply to you but a lot of stuff on Twitter is, naturally, fake news. I agree about the bias in MSN but personally negate that by getting my news from a number of MSM sources across the spectrum. I also read Twitter but can't recall ever reading anything on Twitter (that I believed) that wasn't also reported in at least one MSM source (albeit probably not all of them).

Yes, in being brief I laid myself open there. Of course one has to be selective and there is a lot of fake news but there is also very useful information that MSM fail to cover and links to articles etc that are outwith their remit anyway. Choose whom you follow - most of mine are scientists.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Sgt Fulham on April 07, 2020, 01:19:28 PM
Twitter is just an extension of the famous Milgram study. People are willing to spout abhorrent nonsense because they're so far removed from any consequence. That's to say that people spouting about how they hope Boris dies would immediately choose the button allowing him to live if presented with a choice by his hospital bedside.

These people just want attention, probably because they felt an absence of it growing up. I would say the actual percentage that mean their words are very low. That is why I avoid twitter apart from when I want instant updates (e.g. Fulham games that I cant attend).
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 07, 2020, 01:53:54 PM
The Internet with all its wonderful technology and knowledge and all the great way it allows everyone to communicate wherever you are, has at the same time created a social monster to create hostility that never existed in that way before.
  For me and for some reason it has never appealed to me and I have never had the desire to participate thank goodness, due to what I have been informed as it has been well documented that Twitter is frequented by Twits.
What I have been told by many an upstanding member of society. It is clearly a platform for the evil loony left as well as other self appointed nutters to rear their ugly heads and spout their usual bile behind their shield called a computer.
So for me what I do not read will not inflame my natural desire to put them over my knee and tan their backsides until they couldn't sit down for a fortnight, that would really give them something to moan about.
Instead I choose to stay away rather than get wound up by Cretins, and mental afflictions.
They are a Stench under the noses of decent human beings.
I am off into my garden to read a book on the life of Attila The Hun who coincidentally had the same middle name as Rupert The Bear.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: alfie on April 07, 2020, 02:54:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 07, 2020, 01:53:54 PM
The Internet with all its wonderful technology and knowledge and all the great way it allows everyone to communicate wherever you are, has at the same time created a social monster to create hostility that never existed in that way before.
  For me and for some reason it has never appealed to me and I have never had the desire to participate thank goodness, due to what I have been informed as it has been well documented that Twitter is frequented by Twits.
What I have been told by many an upstanding member of society. It is clearly a platform for the evil loony left as well as other self appointed nutters to rear their ugly heads and spout their usual bile behind their shield called a computer.
So for me what I do not read will not inflame my natural desire to put them over my knee and tan their backsides until they couldn't sit down for a fortnight, that would really give them something to moan about.
Instead I choose to stay away rather than get wound up by Cretins, and mental afflictions.
They are a Stench under the noses of decent human beings.
I am off into my garden to read a book on the life of Attila The Hun who coincidentally had the same middle name as Rupert The Bear.
That last sentence made me chuckle.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: ffcne on April 07, 2020, 03:30:31 PM
Problem i find .
Is no one has any respect ,morals ,principles or decency these days .
The use of  the worst swear words is the norm along with personal insults.
All caused by social media ,people think they can say what they like.
People cannot communicate properly  as never have conversations .
Headphones on and eyes looking at phones etc.
Horrible world .
Glad i enjoyed 60's 70' 80' and some of the 90's  .
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 07, 2020, 03:36:35 PM
Quote from: ffcne on April 07, 2020, 03:30:31 PM
Problem i find .
Is no one has any respect ,morals ,principles or decency these days .
The use of  the worst swear words is the norm along with personal insults.
All caused by social media ,people think they can say what they like.
People cannot communicate properly  as never have conversations .
Headphones on and eyes looking at phones etc.
Horrible world .
Glad i enjoyed 60's 70' 80' and some of the 90's  .


Same here, how lucky we were.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 07, 2020, 04:51:51 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 07, 2020, 07:18:18 AM
People know far too much about others business nowadays, they seem to want other folks to know all about them.
In the paper the other day certain female singers from this country and USA going on Instragram whatever it is and showing themselves in isolation parading about in their underwear and whatever,have they no pride in themselves.
The sad thing is that there are millions out there following them,they need get a life.Big Ass Kardashian has 89 million followers on there,you would think a lot of young women would have someone more important to look up to,other than a person who has millions due to having a huge butt.


Yes there are plenty of good and gracious women to look up to, especially when you are laying down. Maria Sharapova is 6 feet 2 inches, and as I am 6ft 8 inches I would have to lay down to look up to her.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: fcfulham55 on April 07, 2020, 08:13:41 PM
Depends who you follow,  I limit mine to  following some firms/ people for market info + follow Fulham related content.   99% of the said content is then relevant to me.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: love4ffc on April 08, 2020, 12:52:54 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 07, 2020, 01:53:54 PM
The Internet with all its wonderful technology and knowledge and all the great way it allows everyone to communicate wherever you are, has at the same time created a social monster to create hostility that never existed in that way before.
  For me and for some reason it has never appealed to me and I have never had the desire to participate thank goodness, due to what I have been informed as it has been well documented that Twitter is frequented by Twits.
What I have been told by many an upstanding member of society. It is clearly a platform for the evil loony left as well as other self appointed nutters to rear their ugly heads and spout their usual bile behind their shield called a computer.
So for me what I do not read will not inflame my natural desire to put them over my knee and tan their backsides until they couldn't sit down for a fortnight, that would really give them something to moan about.
Instead I choose to stay away rather than get wound up by Cretins, and mental afflictions.
They are a Stench under the noses of decent human beings.
I am off into my garden to read a book on the life of Attila The Hun who coincidentally had the same middle name as Rupert The Bear.

You were doing so well until you belittled the "left". 

As a reminder to all, even in these troubling times please leave your political views as best you can out of your postings.

*** Note for the record I think the extremes that people take their beliefs and politics to is the root cause of so much discord today.  Social media platforms is what you make of them and in general are used to exchange information, ideas and views.  They can also be used to stir the pot.  I think it's up to the individual users of those platforms to decide how they will use them.       
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: john dempsey on April 08, 2020, 07:14:17 AM
Twitter Boss pledges 1 billion$ to help fight virus.
out of the dark comes light
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: FFC1987 on April 08, 2020, 09:01:17 AM
Quote from: john dempsey on April 08, 2020, 07:14:17 AM
Twitter Boss pledges 1 billion$ to help fight virus.
out of the dark comes light

Yeh, I mentioned him when he went on  Joe Rogan. He seems such a down to earth guy and just wants what best for everyone. If he/twitter interests, give that podcast a listen.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on April 08, 2020, 10:00:39 AM
I don't see the need for the majority to use this product, at least not as often as a lot of people do.
Before any individual criticises or lists endless positive uses, of course its a useful tool in some instances but many people are fixated by it and should be talking to their family, reading a book, playing a sport or doing a hobby.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Logicalman on April 08, 2020, 11:04:18 AM
If there is anything that SM has taught us, it's that it is both a representation of a cross-section of society, and that it beings out the worst in people (aka keyboard warriors). I have accounts to almost all the different platforms though I post rarely in comparison to others.
The one thing I have learned is that it is all opinion, and so everything can be taken with a pinch of salt. I have not found one or another particular SM outlet to be politically biased one way or the other as there is such a wide selection of opinions, so I guess it's just the people/groups that one follows that influences that (and dare I say one's own biases play a part).
I avoid the obvious big hitters (Politicians and music celebrities) and, like was mentioned on here prior, I do follow people like AMS, Branson, for example, simply because they are people I have respect for.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: ByTheRiver on April 08, 2020, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: Logicalman on April 08, 2020, 11:04:18 AM
If there is anything that SM has taught us, it's that it is both a representation of a cross-section of society, and that it beings out the worst in people (aka keyboard warriors). I have accounts to almost all the different platforms though I post rarely in comparison to others.
The one thing I have learned is that it is all opinion, and so everything can be taken with a pinch of salt. I have not found one or another particular SM outlet to be politically biased one way or the other as there is such a wide selection of opinions, so I guess it's just the people/groups that one follows that influences that (and dare I say one's own biases play a part).
I avoid the obvious big hitters (Politicians and music celebrities) and, like was mentioned on here prior, I do follow people like AMS, Branson, for example, simply because they are people I have respect for.

Following AMS and Branson will certainly bias your feed to a particular side, in the way you mention though... ;)

But I do agree. They are platforms. They are not biased one way or another. How you fill them - who you follow, who the people you follow follow themselves determine, what you see.

Shouts to MJG and White Noise and so on whilst we are on the subject of Twitter. They run sterling accounts for Fulham bits. If anyone has Twitter and doesn't follow them then I would recommend they do.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Milo on April 08, 2020, 12:36:49 PM
28% of his wealth! Fair play
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Cambridge Pete on April 08, 2020, 01:10:27 PM
I think it was an American Poet/Songwriter named Moondog who came up with the line " It begins with and blessing but ends with a curse, making life better whilst making life worse"  It seems to sum up much of the SM/Internet. Apart from this forum I don't participate in any social media. I have occasionally looked at some platforms and have found the content not to my liking. The latest being the Mayor in Nottingham tweeting about the PM. I would never wish such a thing on another human being. It appears that people give vent to their ire and offer very little constructive criticism. Or maybe I'm just a grumpy old man!
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Twig on April 08, 2020, 01:19:12 PM
Quote from: Logicalman on April 08, 2020, 11:04:18 AM
If there is anything that SM has taught us, it's that it is both a representation of a cross-section of society, and that it beings out the worst in people (aka keyboard warriors). I have accounts to almost all the different platforms though I post rarely in comparison to others.
The one thing I have learned is that it is all opinion, and so everything can be taken with a pinch of salt. I have not found one or another particular SM outlet to be politically biased one way or the other as there is such a wide selection of opinions, so I guess it's just the people/groups that one follows that influences that (and dare I say one's own biases play a part).
I avoid the obvious big hitters (Politicians and music celebrities) and, like was mentioned on here prior, I do follow people like AMS, Branson, for example, simply because they are people I have respect for.

I think that's very fair.  I used to use Linked In until I retired and I found Facebook useful whilst living abroad, my experience of Twitter is a bit limited.  I haven't really noticed a political bias on any of these platforms, seems to me it depends who you follow.  And anyway, one person's left/right wing rant is another's staple diet.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Twig on April 08, 2020, 01:20:21 PM
Quote from: Cambridge Pete on April 08, 2020, 01:10:27 PM
I think it was an American Poet/Songwriter named Moondog who came up with the line " It begins with and blessing but ends with a curse, making life better whilst making life worse"  It seems to sum up much of the SM/Internet. Apart from this forum I don't participate in any social media. I have occasionally looked at some platforms and have found the content not to my liking. The latest being the Mayor in Nottingham tweeting about the PM. I would never wish such a thing on another human being. It appears that people give vent to their ire and offer very little constructive criticism. Or maybe I'm just a grumpy old man!

I remember Moondog but certainly couldn't have quoted him. Respect for that!
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: FFC1987 on April 08, 2020, 02:39:31 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on April 08, 2020, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: Logicalman on April 08, 2020, 11:04:18 AM
If there is anything that SM has taught us, it's that it is both a representation of a cross-section of society, and that it beings out the worst in people (aka keyboard warriors). I have accounts to almost all the different platforms though I post rarely in comparison to others.
The one thing I have learned is that it is all opinion, and so everything can be taken with a pinch of salt. I have not found one or another particular SM outlet to be politically biased one way or the other as there is such a wide selection of opinions, so I guess it's just the people/groups that one follows that influences that (and dare I say one's own biases play a part).
I avoid the obvious big hitters (Politicians and music celebrities) and, like was mentioned on here prior, I do follow people like AMS, Branson, for example, simply because they are people I have respect for.

Following AMS and Branson will certainly bias your feed to a particular side, in the way you mention though... ;)

But I do agree. They are platforms. They are not biased one way or another. How you fill them - who you follow, who the people you follow follow themselves determine, what you see.

Shouts to MJG and White Noise and so on whilst we are on the subject of Twitter. They run sterling accounts for Fulham bits. If anyone has Twitter and doesn't follow them then I would recommend they do.

With all due respect guys, when the owner of said social media company, comes forward and says they have made mistakes and internal politics have created leanings towards on side of the political spectrum, I think he's probably more equipped to say so.

Twitter can be great for sure, but it has it's issues. Like most things.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Cambridge Pete on April 08, 2020, 08:19:55 PM
Sitting down for dinner with my wife I stated thinking of the tune I referenced above. Apologies I then realised the lyrics were from Kevin Ayers not Moondog
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Mr K.Dilkington on April 08, 2020, 10:36:13 PM
Twitter is very nearly the worst of the internet. It's the only website I feel like I have to take a break from periodically.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: bog on April 09, 2020, 08:38:19 AM
Generally every method of communication has been used for cowardly nastiness. With post there were anonymous poison pen letters, with the telephone nasty calls and now all these modern methods are full of them.  I am not on any of them. My dinosaur view of life I am happy with. 

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Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Holders on April 09, 2020, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: bog on April 09, 2020, 08:38:19 AM
Generally every method of communication has been used for cowardly nastiness. With post there were anonymous poison pen letters, with the telephone nasty calls and now all these modern methods are full of them.  I am not on any of them. My dinosaur view of life I am happy with. 

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Mr Bog, I've been doing Twitter for about a year now and found it a useful source of information on events I might otherwise have missed and records of the natural world (an interest of mine). There is some occasional nastiness on there which can be readily avoided in my experience but I find a higher level of animosity on this board (where we're meant to be friends of Fulham) - and this is without doubt a "social medium" itself.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: FFC1987 on April 09, 2020, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: Holders on April 09, 2020, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: bog on April 09, 2020, 08:38:19 AM
Generally every method of communication has been used for cowardly nastiness. With post there were anonymous poison pen letters, with the telephone nasty calls and now all these modern methods are full of them.  I am not on any of them. My dinosaur view of life I am happy with. 

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Mr Bog, I've been doing Twitter for about a year now and found it a useful source of information on events I might otherwise have missed and records of the natural world (an interest of mine). There is some occasional nastiness on there which can be readily avoided in my experience but I find a higher level of animosity on this board (where we're meant to be friends of Fulham) - and this is without doubt a "social medium" itself.

Yeh, the animosity on the friends of Fulham forum can be compared to twitter....blimey dude, that's a very silly comment.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on April 09, 2020, 02:07:03 PM
Quote from: bog on April 09, 2020, 08:38:19 AM
Generally every method of communication has been used for cowardly nastiness. With post there were anonymous poison pen letters, with the telephone nasty calls and now all these modern methods are full of them.  I am not on any of them. My dinosaur view of life I am happy with. 

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Don't forget the white feather via the post as well Cap'n!
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Holders on April 09, 2020, 02:12:34 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 09, 2020, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: Holders on April 09, 2020, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: bog on April 09, 2020, 08:38:19 AM
Generally every method of communication has been used for cowardly nastiness. With post there were anonymous poison pen letters, with the telephone nasty calls and now all these modern methods are full of them.  I am not on any of them. My dinosaur view of life I am happy with. 

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Mr Bog, I've been doing Twitter for about a year now and found it a useful source of information on events I might otherwise have missed and records of the natural world (an interest of mine). There is some occasional nastiness on there which can be readily avoided in my experience but I find a higher level of animosity on this board (where we're meant to be friends of Fulham) - and this is without doubt a "social medium" itself.

Yeh, the animosity on the friends of Fulham forum can be compared to twitter....blimey dude, that's a very silly comment.

You think I understated it? I was trying to be tactful.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: FFC1987 on April 09, 2020, 05:17:54 PM
Quote from: Holders on April 09, 2020, 02:12:34 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 09, 2020, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: Holders on April 09, 2020, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: bog on April 09, 2020, 08:38:19 AM
Generally every method of communication has been used for cowardly nastiness. With post there were anonymous poison pen letters, with the telephone nasty calls and now all these modern methods are full of them.  I am not on any of them. My dinosaur view of life I am happy with. 

092.gif 

Mr Bog, I've been doing Twitter for about a year now and found it a useful source of information on events I might otherwise have missed and records of the natural world (an interest of mine). There is some occasional nastiness on there which can be readily avoided in my experience but I find a higher level of animosity on this board (where we're meant to be friends of Fulham) - and this is without doubt a "social medium" itself.

Yeh, the animosity on the friends of Fulham forum can be compared to twitter....blimey dude, that's a very silly comment.

You think I understated it? I was trying to be tactful.

Haha You must know the toxicity of twitter is almost unrivalled? Maybe only Reddit compares.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Holders on April 10, 2020, 09:59:54 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 09, 2020, 05:17:54 PM
Quote from: Holders on April 09, 2020, 02:12:34 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 09, 2020, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: Holders on April 09, 2020, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: bog on April 09, 2020, 08:38:19 AM
Generally every method of communication has been used for cowardly nastiness. With post there were anonymous poison pen letters, with the telephone nasty calls and now all these modern methods are full of them.  I am not on any of them. My dinosaur view of life I am happy with. 

092.gif 

Mr Bog, I've been doing Twitter for about a year now and found it a useful source of information on events I might otherwise have missed and records of the natural world (an interest of mine). There is some occasional nastiness on there which can be readily avoided in my experience but I find a higher level of animosity on this board (where we're meant to be friends of Fulham) - and this is without doubt a "social medium" itself.

Yeh, the animosity on the friends of Fulham forum can be compared to twitter....blimey dude, that's a very silly comment.

You think I understated it? I was trying to be tactful.

Haha You must know the toxicity of twitter is almost unrivalled? Maybe only Reddit compares.

Then your experience has been totally different to mine which is overwhelmingly favourable. No doubt it depends on whom you follow and the topics discussed but, as well as useful links and very up to date information,  I've had interesting and educative exchanges with prominent people and experts in their fields and I know of no other vehicle where that could so easily be achieved. I'm pretty much a dinosaur and not into this "social media" stuff in general, had never heard of Reddit till your mention above and have heard bad stories of Faecesbook so I can only compare twitter and FoF.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: FFC1987 on April 10, 2020, 10:28:46 AM
Quote from: Holders on April 10, 2020, 09:59:54 AM
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Quote from: bog on April 09, 2020, 08:38:19 AM
Generally every method of communication has been used for cowardly nastiness. With post there were anonymous poison pen letters, with the telephone nasty calls and now all these modern methods are full of them.  I am not on any of them. My dinosaur view of life I am happy with. 

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Mr Bog, I've been doing Twitter for about a year now and found it a useful source of information on events I might otherwise have missed and records of the natural world (an interest of mine). There is some occasional nastiness on there which can be readily avoided in my experience but I find a higher level of animosity on this board (where we're meant to be friends of Fulham) - and this is without doubt a "social medium" itself.

Yeh, the animosity on the friends of Fulham forum can be compared to twitter....blimey dude, that's a very silly comment.

You think I understated it? I was trying to be tactful.

Haha You must know the toxicity of twitter is almost unrivalled? Maybe only Reddit compares.

Then your experience has been totally different to mine which is overwhelmingly favourable. No doubt it depends on whom you follow and the topics discussed but, as well as useful links and very up to date information,  I've had interesting and educative exchanges with prominent people and experts in their fields and I know of no other vehicle where that could so easily be achieved. I'm pretty much a dinosaur and not into this "social media" stuff in general, had never heard of Reddit till your mention above and have heard bad stories of Faecesbook so I can only compare twitter and FoF.

Ok, I mean, I've had the experiences you speak of too but I can't deny that Twitter has a extremely dark side to it. I don't think FoF ever had issues with Isis recruitment, blatent anti-semitism and as much as I've seen some borderline racist/misogynist comments on this board, twitter is unrivalled. I appreciate it is absolutely the experience you make it in terms of blocking and ignoring, but you just don't get the extremes you do on twitter here.

As much as I talk down about Reddit, i'd actually recommend. There's some terrific subs ranging from scientific futurology to Fulham FC, lots of optimism within a lot of subs. I think I came off twitter at the height of Trump/Brexit where it was probably at its most toxic with even basic football pundits to authors spamming their feed with politics so maybe I'm bias and out of the loop here. I'd still recommend the Jack Dorsey, Joe Rogan podcast though as they really did highlight some of the internal issues they face. 

Each to their own I suppose, I'm glad people find social media platforms helpful, I guess I'd always just recommend airing on the side of caution though.
Title: Re: Twitter
Post by: Holders on April 10, 2020, 11:04:02 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 10, 2020, 10:28:46 AM
Quote from: Holders on April 10, 2020, 09:59:54 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 09, 2020, 05:17:54 PM
Quote from: Holders on April 09, 2020, 02:12:34 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 09, 2020, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: Holders on April 09, 2020, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: bog on April 09, 2020, 08:38:19 AM
Generally every method of communication has been used for cowardly nastiness. With post there were anonymous poison pen letters, with the telephone nasty calls and now all these modern methods are full of them.  I am not on any of them. My dinosaur view of life I am happy with. 

092.gif 

Mr Bog, I've been doing Twitter for about a year now and found it a useful source of information on events I might otherwise have missed and records of the natural world (an interest of mine). There is some occasional nastiness on there which can be readily avoided in my experience but I find a higher level of animosity on this board (where we're meant to be friends of Fulham) - and this is without doubt a "social medium" itself.

Yeh, the animosity on the friends of Fulham forum can be compared to twitter....blimey dude, that's a very silly comment.

You think I understated it? I was trying to be tactful.

Haha You must know the toxicity of twitter is almost unrivalled? Maybe only Reddit compares.

Then your experience has been totally different to mine which is overwhelmingly favourable. No doubt it depends on whom you follow and the topics discussed but, as well as useful links and very up to date information,  I've had interesting and educative exchanges with prominent people and experts in their fields and I know of no other vehicle where that could so easily be achieved. I'm pretty much a dinosaur and not into this "social media" stuff in general, had never heard of Reddit till your mention above and have heard bad stories of Faecesbook so I can only compare twitter and FoF.

Ok, I mean, I've had the experiences you speak of too but I can't deny that Twitter has a extremely dark side to it. I don't think FoF ever had issues with Isis recruitment, blatent anti-semitism and as much as I've seen some borderline racist/misogynist comments on this board, twitter is unrivalled. I appreciate it is absolutely the experience you make it in terms of blocking and ignoring, but you just don't get the extremes you do on twitter here.

As much as I talk down about Reddit, i'd actually recommend. There's some terrific subs ranging from scientific futurology to Fulham FC, lots of optimism within a lot of subs. I think I came off twitter at the height of Trump/Brexit where it was probably at its most toxic with even basic football pundits to authors spamming their feed with politics so maybe I'm bias and out of the loop here. I'd still recommend the Jack Dorsey, Joe Rogan podcast though as they really did highlight some of the internal issues they face. 

Each to their own I suppose, I'm glad people find social media platforms helpful, I guess I'd always just recommend airing on the side of caution though.

Having avoided facebook like the plague because of what I'd heard about it, I joined twitter almost by accident and was pleasantly surprised, though there is also a lot of rubbish on it. The matters you mention are certainly a very dark side and I've experienced nothing like that. People must be aware of legalities and libel when they post. I did experience a few extremist and nasty people during the Brexit debate but it was so easy to mute them. Plainly, one must be careful of being in a bubble of like-minded opinions but as a source of information not otherwise generally available, I've found it excellent.

I spend too much time on there, like I do on here. The Fulham fora used to be good sources of information (and misinformation) in the past but that seems to have largely gone by the by and not just down to the hiatus in the season.