and not choosing players who've necessarily done the best for us - who would be our best starting 11 (since Al Fayed bought the club) if you took each player we signed at the peak of their powers as a player and put them in the same team?
Finnan
Christanval?
Berbatov?
Litmanen?
Van Der Saar
Mahamadou Diarra
Murphy?
Saha?
Dembele (Belgian)
Karl Heinz Riedle gets in ahead of Berbatov and litmanen.
Andy Cole probably makes the second striker alongside Riedle as well
Duff
Clark
Quote from: fulhamben on May 24, 2020, 06:08:47 PM
Karl Heinz Riedle gets in ahead of Berbatov and litmanen.
If you are thinking strikers it is a straight choice between Saha and McBride joined by Boa surely.
VDS
Finnan
Goma
Hangeland
Wayne Bridge
Moussa Dembele the First
Murphy
Malbranque
Saha
Andrew Cole
Duff
All strictly at peak of powers, not necessarily for us.
Quote from: filham on May 24, 2020, 07:21:35 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on May 24, 2020, 06:08:47 PM
Karl Heinz Riedle gets in ahead of Berbatov and litmanen.
If you are thinking strikers it is a straight choice between Saha and McBride joined by Boa surely.
if I'm reading the thread correctly, it's the best players throughout their career and not on how they actually performed for us.
VDS
Wome
Christanval
Djetou
JA Riise
Diarra
Dembele I
Beardsley
Litmanen
Schurrle
Berbatov
Manager - Magath
Subs - Schwarzer, Smalling, Hangeland, Bridge, Parker, Riedle, Cole
2 left backs statto?
Quote from: fulhamben on May 24, 2020, 09:30:13 PM
2 left backs statto?
Magath is manager so there's bound to be a couple in odd positions
VDS
Steve Finnan
Alain Goma
Brede Hangerland
Carlos Salcido
John Collins
Mousa Dembele
Luis Boa Morte
Damian Duff
Louis Saha
Andrew Johnson
Subs : Mark Schwarzer, JA Riise, Phillipe Albert, Danny Murphy, Simon Davies, Andrew Cole, Dimitar Berbatov
Quote from: filham on May 24, 2020, 07:21:35 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on May 24, 2020, 06:08:47 PM
Karl Heinz Riedle gets in ahead of Berbatov and litmanen.
If you are thinking strikers it is a straight choice between Saha and McBride joined by Boa surely.
Not if you are them at the height of their powers regardless of which club they were playing for at the time. ( which is my understanding of the OP's question. In that case Cole and Riedle is a decent shout.
I'm shocked McBride and Dempsey aren't on the list for most...
Quote from: OhConnah on May 24, 2020, 11:37:40 PM
I'm shocked McBride and Dempsey aren't on the list for most...
because it's not what they did for us, but who was better at the height of their powers regardless of the club they were at. McBride isn't a patch on a Berbatov, Cole, Riedle or jari when they were all at their peak
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 24, 2020, 08:45:22 PM
VDS
Finnan
Goma
Hangeland
Wayne Bridge
Moussa Dembele the First
Murphy
Malbranque
Saha
Andrew Cole
Duff
All strictly at peak of powers, not necessarily for us.
I almost agree with that line up but in my view Rufus Brevett was just as good as Wayne Bridge and I can't allow the selection to go by without a mention of Brian McBride and Boa so I will bring those two on at half time to replace ColeĀ and Steed.
Quote from: fulhamben on May 25, 2020, 12:33:41 AM
Quote from: OhConnah on May 24, 2020, 11:37:40 PM
I'm shocked McBride and Dempsey aren't on the list for most...
because it's not what they did for us, but who was better at the height of their powers regardless of the club they were at. McBride isn't a patch on a Berbatov, Cole, Riedle or jari when they were all at their peak
Id say Montella has a shout too!
Quote from: fulhamben on May 25, 2020, 12:33:41 AM
Quote from: OhConnah on May 24, 2020, 11:37:40 PM
I'm shocked McBride and Dempsey aren't on the list for most...
because it's not what they did for us, but who was better at the height of their powers regardless of the club they were at. McBride isn't a patch on a Berbatov, Cole, Riedle or jari when they were all at their peak
Depends on the qualities you are using to judge players. I would say that Berbatov isn't even fit to clean McBrides boots.
Quote from: filham on May 25, 2020, 03:27:16 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 24, 2020, 08:45:22 PM
VDS
Finnan
Goma
Hangeland
Wayne Bridge
Moussa Dembele the First
Murphy
Malbranque
Saha
Andrew Cole
Duff
All strictly at peak of powers, not necessarily for us.
I almost agree with that line up but in my view Rufus Brevett was just as good as Wayne Bridge and I can't allow the selection to go by without a mention of Brian McBride and Boa so I will bring those two on at half time to replace ColeĀ and Steed.
As a favourite, I'd have Rufus every time but "peak of powers", not necessarily his time with us, has to be Bridge for me. Similarly, much as I'm a big fan of Boa and McBride, Steed was a truly great player and Cole's time at Newcastle and Man Utd make him a shoe in.
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 25, 2020, 07:23:11 PM
Quote from: filham on May 25, 2020, 03:27:16 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 24, 2020, 08:45:22 PM
VDS
Finnan
Goma
Hangeland
Wayne Bridge
Moussa Dembele the First
Murphy
Malbranque
Saha
Andrew Cole
Duff
All strictly at peak of powers, not necessarily for us.
I almost agree with that line up but in my view Rufus Brevett was just as good as Wayne Bridge and I can't allow the selection to go by without a mention of Brian McBride and Boa so I will bring those two on at half time to replace ColeĀ and Steed.
As a favourite, I'd have Rufus every time but "peak of powers", not necessarily his time with us, has to be Bridge for me. Similarly, much as I'm a big fan of Boa and McBride, Steed was a truly great player and Cole's time at Newcastle and Man Utd make him a shoe in.
paul Parker was much better than Finnan (I hate Parker by the way) and Philip Albert would possibly get in as a Center back too
Gk van der sar
Lb bridge
CB goma
CB Philip albert
Rb Paul Parker
Lm duff
Cm dembele
Cm Olivier daccourt
Rm steed
St Andy Cole
St Karl Heinz Riedle
Quote from: fulhamben on May 25, 2020, 07:59:23 PM
Gk van der sar
Lb bridge
CB goma
CB Philip albert
Rb Paul Parker
Lm duff
Cm dembele
Cm Olivier daccourt
Rm steed
St Andy Cole
St Karl Heinz Riedle
Paul Parker is pre-MAF though
Quote from: Statto on May 25, 2020, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on May 25, 2020, 07:59:23 PM
Gk van der sar
Lb bridge
CB goma
CB Philip albert
Rb Paul Parker
Lm duff
Cm dembele
Cm Olivier daccourt
Rm steed
St Andy Cole
St Karl Heinz Riedle
Paul Parker is pre-MAF though
you sure, thought we loaned him back cussing a bit of uproar after how he left the first time
Quote from: fulhamben on May 25, 2020, 08:30:57 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 25, 2020, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on May 25, 2020, 07:59:23 PM
Gk van der sar
Lb bridge
CB goma
CB Philip albert
Rb Paul Parker
Lm duff
Cm dembele
Cm Olivier daccourt
Rm steed
St Andy Cole
St Karl Heinz Riedle
Paul Parker is pre-MAF though
you sure, thought we loaned him back cussing a bit of uproar after how he left the first time
Yep that was Micky Adams promo season just before MAF
Eidur gudjohnson must deserve an honorable mention... just for sake of reminding that he played too stan collymoore
Actually, if we can have jari litmanem in the team through this criteria, then I want Keegan and Franco Baresi in my team too
Quote from: fulhamben on May 25, 2020, 11:35:59 PM
Actually, if we can have jari litmanem in the team through this criteria, then I want Keegan and Franco Baresi in my team too
The managers have actually been of a higher standard than the players. Not only those two but also Wilkins, Tigana...
Although not too popular with us, but Riise's Liverpool form at best could give him the left back spot??
Quote from: Statto on May 25, 2020, 11:41:28 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on May 25, 2020, 11:35:59 PM
Actually, if we can have jari litmanem in the team through this criteria, then I want Keegan and Franco Baresi in my team too
The managers have actually been of a higher standard than the players. Not only those two but also Wilkins, Tigana...
Surely not Wilkins.
A crab as a player
A crab as a manager.
(Although a decent bloke).
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 24, 2020, 08:45:22 PM
VDS
Finnan
Goma
Hangeland
Wayne Bridge
Moussa Dembele the First
Murphy
Malbranque
Saha
Andrew Cole
Duff
All strictly at peak of powers, not necessarily for us.
This looks good, but what about Schurrle and Babel too?
Should we make this the best 25 man squad?
Would Heitinga or Calum Chambers get into anyone's squad?