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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: fcfulham55 on May 30, 2020, 12:00:07 AM

Title: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: fcfulham55 on May 30, 2020, 12:00:07 AM
Title: Re: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: Andy S on May 30, 2020, 01:48:38 AM
Some nice shots of the whole stadium it looks good
Title: Re: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: JimOG on May 30, 2020, 08:19:57 AM
Does anyone know if this is the start of a complete 'makeover' or just the one stand? An earlier video a few months back that included FFC in many new ground developments showed the finished project which was so impressive but begged the question ; what about the rest?
Title: Re: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: gang on May 30, 2020, 09:56:21 AM
Just one stand.
Title: Re: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: filham on May 30, 2020, 10:18:17 AM
Looking as if most of the foundation and specialist river work is complete and that soon the superstructure will begin to take shape.
Always the fear now that because of Coronavirus projects will be postponed so it is good to see that progress is still being made.
Title: Re: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: bobby01 on May 30, 2020, 10:42:39 AM
Are we attaching the new riverside to the hammy end as it appears we are doing at the Putney end?
Title: Re: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: SP on May 30, 2020, 10:51:13 AM
Looks good & the pitch is perfect.
Title: Re: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: sunburywhite on May 30, 2020, 03:53:40 PM
So, they bought a drone during lockdown and coudnt wait to use it

Looks like the social distancing is not working in a couple of places
Title: Re: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: Nero on June 02, 2020, 11:39:58 AM
Quote from: sunburywhite on May 30, 2020, 03:53:40 PM
So, they bought a drone during lockdown and coudnt wait to use it

Looks like the social distancing is not working in a couple of places

Yes England and America
Title: Re: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: General on June 02, 2020, 12:43:04 PM
Quote from: JimOG on May 30, 2020, 08:19:57 AM
Does anyone know if this is the start of a complete 'makeover' or just the one stand? An earlier video a few months back that included FFC in many new ground developments showed the finished project which was so impressive but begged the question ; what about the rest?

I imagine it'll have been considered and the Hammersmith and putney stands could be done.. whilst the stevenage is a protected grade listed site I believe, or perhaps I'm just making that up, and would be harder to get permissions.

I imagine the club sees the extra value in the riverside going first as it's on the river and opening it up with the views can bring a year round income, whilst we can slowly start building demand for the extra seats.
Title: Re: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: PhilEsh on June 02, 2020, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: General on June 02, 2020, 12:43:04 PM
Quote from: JimOG on May 30, 2020, 08:19:57 AM
Does anyone know if this is the start of a complete 'makeover' or just the one stand? An earlier video a few months back that included FFC in many new ground developments showed the finished project which was so impressive but begged the question ; what about the rest?

I imagine it'll have been considered and the Hammersmith and putney stands could be done.. whilst the stevenage is a protected grade listed site I believe, or perhaps I'm just making that up, and would be harder to get permissions.

I imagine the club sees the extra value in the riverside going first as it's on the river and opening it up with the views can bring a year round income, whilst we can slowly start building demand for the extra seats.

I believe the Sir Archibald Leitch facade is listed, and not the roof and stand structure. Could be wrong but I heard this a few years ago when the first MAF proposals were released.
Title: Re: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: Penfold on June 02, 2020, 01:42:23 PM
Quote from: PhilEsh on June 02, 2020, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: General on June 02, 2020, 12:43:04 PM
Quote from: JimOG on May 30, 2020, 08:19:57 AM
Does anyone know if this is the start of a complete 'makeover' or just the one stand? An earlier video a few months back that included FFC in many new ground developments showed the finished project which was so impressive but begged the question ; what about the rest?

As I understand it, the entire stand was listed on a Grade II listing. However, as part of the 1995 proposals, permission was given to make substantial changes (reduction in number of pillars and pitch side executive boxes in place of the enclosure for example) and in the 2001 plans, the entire stand with the exception of the facade was to go.

Therefore, changes to that side are possible in the future. However, I would imagine that such substantial reconstruction would be difficult whilst remaining and playing at the Cottage (positioning of cranes etc). The 2001 plans required moving out for a minimum of one year.

I imagine it'll have been considered and the Hammersmith and putney stands could be done.. whilst the stevenage is a protected grade listed site I believe, or perhaps I'm just making that up, and would be harder to get permissions.

I imagine the club sees the extra value in the riverside going first as it's on the river and opening it up with the views can bring a year round income, whilst we can slowly start building demand for the extra seats.

I believe the Sir Archibald Leitch facade is listed, and not the roof and stand structure. Could be wrong but I heard this a few years ago when the first MAF proposals were released.
Title: Re: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: Penfold on June 02, 2020, 01:44:59 PM
Quote from: Penfold on June 02, 2020, 01:42:23 PM
Quote from: PhilEsh on June 02, 2020, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: General on June 02, 2020, 12:43:04 PM
Quote from: JimOG on May 30, 2020, 08:19:57 AM
Does anyone know if this is the start of a complete 'makeover' or just the one stand? An earlier video a few months back that included FFC in many new ground developments showed the finished project which was so impressive but begged the question ; what about the rest?

As I understand it, the entire stand was listed on a Grade II listing. However, as part of the 1995 proposals, permission was given to make substantial changes (reduction in number of pillars and pitch side executive boxes in place of the enclosure for example) and in the 2001 plans, the entire stand with the exception of the facade was to go.

Therefore, changes to that side are possible in the future. However, I would imagine that such substantial reconstruction would be difficult whilst remaining and playing at the Cottage (positioning of cranes etc). The 2001 plans required moving out for a minimum of one year.

I imagine it'll have been considered and the Hammersmith and putney stands could be done.. whilst the stevenage is a protected grade listed site I believe, or perhaps I'm just making that up, and would be harder to get permissions.

I imagine the club sees the extra value in the riverside going first as it's on the river and opening it up with the views can bring a year round income, whilst we can slowly start building demand for the extra seats.

I believe the Sir Archibald Leitch facade is listed, and not the roof and stand structure. Could be wrong but I heard this a few years ago when the first MAF proposals were released.


Apologies, the above was supposed to be in reply to PhilEsh!
Title: Re: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: FulhamStu on June 02, 2020, 01:47:12 PM
Wonder if they could leave the main structure of the Johnny Haynes, gut the inside and create more space inside.   The Johnny Hayes and Cottage are what make Fulham a quaint group and the Thames gives gravitas.  I would focus on the Hammersmith end next but as has previously been said, this would be for the fans benefit and probably not a revenue earner.
Title: Re: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: JimOG on June 02, 2020, 02:03:20 PM
Quote from: PhilEsh on June 02, 2020, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: General on June 02, 2020, 12:43:04 PM
Quote from: JimOG on May 30, 2020, 08:19:57 AM
Does anyone know if this is the start of a complete 'makeover' or just the one stand? An earlier video a few months back that included FFC in many new ground developments showed the finished project which was so impressive but begged the question ; what about the rest?

I imagine it'll have been considered and the Hammersmith and putney stands could be done.. whilst the stevenage is a protected grade listed site I believe, or perhaps I'm just making that up, and would be harder to get permissions.

I imagine the club sees the extra value in the riverside going first as it's on the river and opening it up with the views can bring a year round income, whilst we can slowly start building demand for the extra seats.

I believe the Sir Archibald Leitch facade is listed, and not the roof and stand structure. Could be wrong but I heard this a few years ago when the first MAF proposals were released.

So we coud redo Hammy & Putney ends and reroof Stevenage Road whilst keeping the outer facade? As someone who watched FFC in the late 1950s on with no stand other than the Stevenage Road I always feel it has changed anyway.
Title: Re: Buckingham new video of Riverside development.
Post by: PhilEsh on June 02, 2020, 03:42:15 PM
Quote from: Penfold on June 02, 2020, 01:44:59 PM
Quote from: Penfold on June 02, 2020, 01:42:23 PM
Quote from: PhilEsh on June 02, 2020, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: General on June 02, 2020, 12:43:04 PM
Quote from: JimOG on May 30, 2020, 08:19:57 AM
Does anyone know if this is the start of a complete 'makeover' or just the one stand? An earlier video a few months back that included FFC in many new ground developments showed the finished project which was so impressive but begged the question ; what about the rest?

As I understand it, the entire stand was listed on a Grade II listing. However, as part of the 1995 proposals, permission was given to make substantial changes (reduction in number of pillars and pitch side executive boxes in place of the enclosure for example) and in the 2001 plans, the entire stand with the exception of the facade was to go.

Therefore, changes to that side are possible in the future. However, I would imagine that such substantial reconstruction would be difficult whilst remaining and playing at the Cottage (positioning of cranes etc). The 2001 plans required moving out for a minimum of one year.

I imagine it'll have been considered and the Hammersmith and putney stands could be done.. whilst the stevenage is a protected grade listed site I believe, or perhaps I'm just making that up, and would be harder to get permissions.

I imagine the club sees the extra value in the riverside going first as it's on the river and opening it up with the views can bring a year round income, whilst we can slowly start building demand for the extra seats.

I believe the Sir Archibald Leitch facade is listed, and not the roof and stand structure. Could be wrong but I heard this a few years ago when the first MAF proposals were released.


Apologies, the above was supposed to be in reply to PhilEsh!

Nice one. Thanks!
Its all possible then, but whether there is a desire to completely modernise what is one of the great and few remaining traditional stands, im not sure.

Putney and Hammy ends for me, but a long way off none the less.