"we had another couple of chances in and around their box where really, we probably just need one of them to go in and then try and see out the game.
we're going to have to have a mindset about us these nine games
But it is what it is
We'll prepare this week as best we can"
Are you inspired by this attitude? Do you think the players are? What does the second quote actually mean?
I agree it's meaningless cliches and drivel but when has any manager in the last decade or so said anything interesting or inspiring in a Sky TV interview?
Even Jokanovic only sounded interesting because of his bad English
It is a bit of a typical reaction to start blaming managers and coaches about uninspiring words after a defeat. Had we won I am afraid I wouldn't care very much how inspiring his Shakespearean words were. It is a fact we had chances and they looked a good side who scored two late goals. Had Parker talked about the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune fans would still enjoy laying into him. Nothing he could have set would have us swooning with delight. We lost so everything looks and feels bad.
No, it's not inspiring, but Parker will be feeling every bit as deflated and flat as we all are this afternoon. I can excuse him letting it show. I'm sure, come Monday, he'll be ready to do his best to encourage the players.
Quote from: Arthur on June 20, 2020, 05:07:17 PM
No, it's not inspiring, but Parker will be feeling every bit as deflated and flat as we all are this afternoon. I can excuse him letting it show. I'm sure, come Monday, he'll be ready to do his best to encourage the players.
He's literally had 3 months to encourage the players and again he couldn't manage it why do you think he will suddenly discover the ability to do it next week ?
Quote from: Riversider on June 20, 2020, 05:36:47 PM
Quote from: Arthur on June 20, 2020, 05:07:17 PM
No, it's not inspiring, but Parker will be feeling every bit as deflated and flat as we all are this afternoon. I can excuse him letting it show. I'm sure, come Monday, he'll be ready to do his best to encourage the players.
He's literally had 3 months to encourage the players and again he couldn't manage it why do you think he will suddenly discover the ability to do it next week ?
I chose my words carefully: '...to do his best to encourage the players...'.
Even if Parker's best turns out not to be that great, I think he'll still try his best.
I am sure Parker tried his best. He is just mentally and tactically very limited.
He is light years away from the top echelon of managers and even the likes of Lampard.He is uninspiring, flat, tactically one dimensional and very unambitious during games. He just always reacts rather than being proactive. His use of subs is limited and although his team selections are better now than they were, he just seems incapable of changing the course of a game.
I would like to see him either have a much more skilled tactical brain alongside him, someone who is inventive and also work harder in training to produce dead ball set ups, fresh corner routines,set plays and simple drills. It is all lacking.OR be replaced by a more intellectually able coach.
The 8 games that are left rely on the coaches being inspired and inventive with good use of subs. It is a 16 a side game. What battle plan was Parker following, he neither tried to win the match with his subs, or get back on even terms. He just went like for like.
All very dispiriting.
Also you ask when has any manager been inspiring on TV...have you never watched the Liverpool manager or even Eddie Howe, the Lincoln brothers, they are all more interesting and more able. They think deeper about the game and are game changing coaches.Especially Klopp. That is what Parker should be trying to do, but he is not able to stimulate or shake things up. We play the same whatever the score or the opponents.
Quote from: clarkey on June 20, 2020, 06:53:49 PM
The 8 games that are left rely on the coaches being inspired and inventive with good use of subs. It is a 16 a side game. What battle plan was Parker following, he neither tried to win the match with his subs, or get back on even terms. He just went like for like.
Isn't an inspirational substitution one that isn't part of a battle plan?
Parker was about to make two substitutions when Brentford scored their first, one of whom - Sessegnon, defender - was immediately swapped - for Jasper, attacker. To say that he didn't use substitutes to try to level the score is not how it appears to me.
But, yes, Cav for Kebano and Arter for Reed were like-for-like substitutions - as are, I suspect, the majority of substitutions by all managers at times in matches when their teams are not losing.
May I ask what you think Parker ought to have done?
Quote from: Riversider on June 20, 2020, 05:36:47 PM
Quote from: Arthur on June 20, 2020, 05:07:17 PM
No, it's not inspiring, but Parker will be feeling every bit as deflated and flat as we all are this afternoon. I can excuse him letting it show. I'm sure, come Monday, he'll be ready to do his best to encourage the players.
He's literally had 3 months to encourage the players and again he couldn't manage it why do you think he will suddenly discover the ability to do it next week ?
How on earth do you know he couldn't manage to encourage the players? What a bizarre assertion.
Quote from: Arthur on June 20, 2020, 08:14:33 PM
Quote from: clarkey on June 20, 2020, 06:53:49 PM
The 8 games that are left rely on the coaches being inspired and inventive with good use of subs. It is a 16 a side game. What battle plan was Parker following, he neither tried to win the match with his subs, or get back on even terms. He just went like for like.
Isn't an inspirational substitution one that isn't part of a battle plan?
Parker was about to make two substitutions when Brentford scored their first, one of whom - Sessegnon, defender - was immediately swapped - for Jasper, attacker. To say that he didn't use substitutes to try to level the score is not how it appears to me.
But, yes, Cav for Kebano and Arter for Reed were like-for-like substitutions - as are, I suspect, the majority of substitutions by all managers at times in matches when their teams are not losing.
May I ask what you think Parker ought to have done?
Parker had to replace Reed, no choice. He might possibly have kept Kebano on but I understood that he wanted to try Cav. My one beef is that he didn't freshen up the defence earlier. It was clear to me that Odoi was flagging physically and mentally, Ream and even Hector were breathing hard and Bryan was starting to go missing. There were specialist defenders on the bench and Parker should have been more proactive in using them.
Quote from: LittleErn on June 20, 2020, 04:13:50 PM
"we had another couple of chances in and around their box where really, we probably just need one of them to go in and then try and see out the game.
we're going to have to have a mindset about us these nine games
But it is what it is
We'll prepare this week as best we can"
Are you inspired by this attitude? Do you think the players are? What does the second quote actually mean?
It's the same nonsense, week in week out, but the same result, 'he's a managers, manager', not a 'maverick' like Joka. No personality, devoid of ideas etc.
Quote from: Riversider on June 20, 2020, 05:36:47 PM
Quote from: Arthur on June 20, 2020, 05:07:17 PM
No, it's not inspiring, but Parker will be feeling every bit as deflated and flat as we all are this afternoon. I can excuse him letting it show. I'm sure, come Monday, he'll be ready to do his best to encourage the players.
He's literally had 3 months to encourage the players and again he couldn't manage it why do you think he will suddenly discover the ability to do it next week ?
Did you watch WBA today top of the league, had 1 attempt at goal in the last minute, against a not very good Birmingham team,
11 matches played today with 1 home win, seems it's the same in Europe, home teams suffering more than the away teams.
The fascination everyone here has for the PL and once we get there we lose most weeks I don't get it?why do find it important?
Quote from: clarkey on June 20, 2020, 06:56:59 PM
Also you ask when has any manager been inspiring on TV...have you never watched the Liverpool manager or even Eddie Howe, the Lincoln brothers, they are all more interesting and more able. They think deeper about the game and are game changing coaches.Especially Klopp. That is what Parker should be trying to do, but he is not able to stimulate or shake things up. We play the same whatever the score or the opponents.
That's the same Howe whose just inspired an absolute abject Bournemouth to defeat tonight then. 086.gif
I would trade Parker for Howe in a heartbeat!
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 20, 2020, 05:04:32 PM
It is a bit of a typical reaction to start blaming managers and coaches about uninspiring words after a defeat. Had we won I am afraid I wouldn't care very much how inspiring his Shakespearean words were. It is a fact we had chances and they looked a good side who scored two late goals. Had Parker talked about the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune fans would still enjoy laying into him. Nothing he could have set would have us swooning with delight. We lost so everything looks and feels bad.
Well said !
Quote from: Mickeyboro on June 21, 2020, 07:56:12 AM
I would trade Parker for Howe in a heartbeat!
Anyone who wouldn't is literally mental.
Quote from: hovewhite on June 20, 2020, 09:43:13 PM
The fascination everyone here has for the PL and once we get there we lose most weeks I don't get it?why do find it important?
I agree with you however like all of us? I want us to win every game and that would see us back in the PL, I'm not sure we wouldn't have the same type of results as last time no matter how much we spend?
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 21, 2020, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: Mickeyboro on June 21, 2020, 07:56:12 AM
I would trade Parker for Howe in a heartbeat!
Anyone who wouldn't is literally mental.
Or perhaps just of a different opinion on Howe and/or Parker.
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 21, 2020, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: Mickeyboro on June 21, 2020, 07:56:12 AM
I would trade Parker for Howe in a heartbeat!
Anyone who wouldn't is literally mental.
Don't rate Howe as much as everyone else seems to. Strikes me a poor man's Moyes. Yes I'd take him over Parker but I'd take half the managers in the Championship over Parker.
I would have preferred him to have said " Sorry, my cock up.I did not change my predictable game plan. I didn´t think their manager would have remembered how slow & boring we play after 10 weeks off. However, I will no tchange my philosophy & will continue to play the same way for the next 8 matches"
