—-——-———————Rodák————————
——-——-Hector—Christiansen—Kongolo—
Walker-Peters—Anguissa—Cairney——Bryan
——————————Onomah———————
——-——————Babel—-Mitro——————-
Quote from: FulhamStu on August 09, 2020, 11:46:21 AM
—-——-———————Rodák————————
——-——-Hector—Christiansen—Kongolo—
Walker-Peters—Anguissa—Cairney——Bryan
——————————Onomah———————
——-——————Babel—-Mitro——————-
What no Reed.
Rodak
New RB - Hector - New LCB - Bryan
Reed - Cairney
Onomah/Anguissa/New CM
Cavaleiro/Kebano/Kamara - Mitrovic - New LW
No wholesale changes, eh?
Too many swaps. Not good for cohesion or morale and a disservice to those who got us here. Three starting 11 changes maybe, but keep the Spine together.
We could do worse than start where we left off. New players will need time to settle.
Rodak
Christie Hector Ream Bryan
Reed
Onomah Cairney
Kamara Mitro Kebano
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2020, 01:08:43 PM
Rodak
New RB - Hector - New LCB - Bryan
Reed - Cairney
Onomah/Anguissa/New CM
Cavaleiro/Kebano/Kamara - Mitrovic - New LW
I would be tempted to bring the RB straight in and leave Ream at LCB and bring the new LCB signing in gradually.
Two new signings across the back four might be too many new faces. We have been historically precarious at best in defence so caution best advised across our back four.
I do get the need for continuity and certainly the need to bring in players that will gel with the current squad, who should mostly be restrained however, unless we add some serious upgrades, esp in defence we will just go straight back down again. There are a fair few weaknesses that need to be addressed but building a side that is strong defensively should be a priority. I think a lot of posters are being a bit naive if they think only a few minor changes will be enough.
I should add, in the 11 I posted in the OP there are only 2 new players who have not played for us before.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 09, 2020, 02:15:20 PM
Quote from: FulhamStu on August 09, 2020, 11:46:21 AM
—-——-———————Rodák————————
——-——-Hector—Christiansen—Kongolo—
Walker-Peters—Anguissa—Cairney——Bryan
——————————Onomah———————
——-——————Babel—-Mitro——————-
That would go down well in the dressing room I think not.
Pray tell how do you know that, I understood Parker liked Frank, so that suggests he is not a problem. Pretty sure Bable is popular with the players, as for the 2 other, do you know them then ?
Quote from: FulhamStu on August 09, 2020, 02:14:21 PM
I should add, in the 11 I posted in the OP there are only 2 new players who have not played for us before.
The changes you propose have to be for the better not the individuals you are suggesting. Too many and they have yet to earn it, and some will not, which will result in a fractured dressing room like the last disaster, and how are you going to explain to the players left out that those you suggest deserve it, if we are going to bring a new player in he has to better faster and mentally and physically tougher than the player they are replacing and at the same time improve moral.
A number of players have talked about how we will bring in better quality players. They are not stupid, bringing in say 4-5 new faces and keeping most of the squad is a lot less change than we have had in the past.
Stannard
Herrera...Angus ..North...Pike
Morgan..Cusack.. Marshall.
Freeman..Conroy...Walker.😎
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 09, 2020, 02:22:10 PM
Stannard
Herrera...Angus ..North...Pike
Morgan..Cusack.. Marshall.
Freeman..Conroy...Walker.😎
Is that Private Pike from Dads Army, I did not know he was still playing.
Lets learn our lesson from last time, and maybe follow what Sheff Utd did. Team spirit is worth 10 points in a season alone imo and there are teams we would be able to beat .
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 09, 2020, 02:26:42 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 09, 2020, 02:22:10 PM
Stannard
Herrera...Angus ..North...Pike
Morgan..Cusack.. Marshall.
Freeman..Conroy...Walker.😎
Is that Private Pike from Dads Army, I did not know he was still playing.
Yes that's him😀
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 09, 2020, 02:21:26 PM
Quote from: FulhamStu on August 09, 2020, 02:14:21 PM
I should add, in the 11 I posted in the OP there are only 2 new players who have not played for us before.
The changes you propose have to be for the better not the individuals you are suggesting. Too many and they have yet to earn it, and some will not, which will result in a fractured dressing room like the last disaster, and how are you going to explain to the players left out that those you suggest deserve it, if we are going to bring a new player in he has to better faster and mentally and physically tougher than the player they are replacing and at the same time improve moral.
One of the reasons for posting that 11 was to show how we could add quality in a few positions to become a very physically able side, something you need in the Premier League. Of course we could change that starting 11 and have say Kamara in for Bable with Cav added for a centre back and go 4-3-3. I have no idea who we will sign but i think we should recognise that we will need to add quality and this was just an example. Your view may be those new players are not better than we have now, but if that's what you think, I will quietly just have to disagree. It's all conjecture, but good fun neverthelesss.
Quote from: Milo on August 09, 2020, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2020, 01:08:43 PM
Rodak
New RB - Hector - New LCB - Bryan
Reed - Cairney
Onomah/Anguissa/New CM
Cavaleiro/Kebano/Kamara - Mitrovic - New LW
I would be tempted to bring the RB straight in and leave Ream at LCB and bring the new LCB signing in gradually.
Two new signings across the back four might be too many new faces. We have been historically precarious at best in defence so caution best advised across our back four.
Personally I think Ream is an absolute liability but I can see where you're coming from. I wouldn't mind seeing some big money signings just sat on the bench in September, October. Give the play-off heroes like Onomah and Kebano, and msgve even Christie or Odoi, the chance to stake their claim to a spot in the starting XI and make the new names work to get in. No repeat of the situation where someone like Seri comes straight in because of his reputation, despite having no experience of PL football.
Keep the spine together:
Rodak
Bryan LCB Hector RB
Reed Zambo
LW Onomah Kamara/Cavaleiro/Kebano
Mitrovic
Unpopular opinion maybe, but not sure Cairney's starting material in the PL. Still has a role to play though. Same with Ream.
The existing squad did a great job getting us promoted and Scott Parker likewise. It's not rocket science to know that changes in personnel must be made if we are to have any chance of staying up. The skill is bringing in the right players with the the ability to play at the level. Players who will enhance the current squad and embrace the philosophy of Scott Parker. I'm certain though that we shouldn't start a new season with Tim Ream, Denis Odoi and Cyrus Christie as regular starters. It's nothing personal against any of those players who have been great servants to the club but recent history has shown us that they are not good enough to step up on a regular basis.
I don't get the love in with Zambo.
He may look the part, but I've seen him fail to chase back, cover and be willing to put his body on the line and many other things the modern PL player has to do these days.
Unless Parker is able to change his natural inclination to choose when he makes an effort and stroll around he will be a liability.
The main reason we got relegated last time was because of a non-existing defense.
Compared to our last Premier League games, I have a feeling we will see totally different results with Michael Hector in the back.
He's our new Brede 049:gif
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on August 09, 2020, 03:36:28 PM
I don't get the love in with Zambo.
He may look the part, but I've seen him fail to chase back, cover and be willing to put his body on the line and many other things the modern PL player has to do these days.
Unless Parker is able to change his natural inclination to choose when he makes an effort and stroll around he will be a liability.
I understand the concern and agree that he looked languid and uncaring at times for us, however, performances markedly improved under Parker. He's still young and could yet be a great asset if committed.
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on August 09, 2020, 03:36:28 PM
I don't get the love in with Zambo.
He may look the part, but I've seen him fail to chase back, cover and be willing to put his body on the line and many other things the modern PL player has to do these days.
Unless Parker is able to change his natural inclination to choose when he makes an effort and stroll around he will be a liability.
In part I agree with you. The Anguissa you are describing is the one early season before his injury when he was new to the squad. Should we be surprised that a young player new to UK with all that entails didn't immediately set the world alight ? The Anguissa we saw post injury, particularly after Parker took over was a different player doing all the things you would want of a player in his position. He would be a major asset assuming he can fit straight back in.
Couple of selections would depend on who we're playing first day, especially at Right-Wing, for example if we're playing Liverpool we'd have to go more defensive/with a more defensive mentality and that would be Knockaert but in general...
4-2-3-1
Rodak; New RB (Joakim Maehle), Hector, New LCB (Ethan Pinnock), Bryan; Anguissa, Reed; Knockaert/Cavaleiro/Kamara/Kebano, Onomah, Babel/Kebano; Mitrovic.
All you lovers of fiction listen up
Any team with anguissa spells relegation. We can well do without lazy couldn't care less, won't track back, won't chase lost causes mecernaries.
He wa pathetic, using the word correctly.
A couple of less poor performances doesn't impress me.
The sooner we get rid permanently the better.
Quote from: Whitestone on August 09, 2020, 03:14:51 PM
The existing squad did a great job getting us promoted and Scott Parker likewise. It's not rocket science to know that changes in personnel must be made if we are to have any chance of staying up. The skill is bringing in the right players with the the ability to play at the level.
True that, and SP said as much during his post promo win press conference. The last time up we did have a locker room problem with many of the players upset with their place in the squad. Hopefully SP can control that and start players who have 'earned' that position. Let's just not have a repeat of our last promotion team. It's tough enough to win/stay up in the prem without having team squabbles. COYW
Quote from: Moltobueno on August 09, 2020, 03:43:21 PM
The main reason we got relegated last time was because of a non-existing defense.
Compared to our last Premier League games, I have a feeling we will see totally different results with Michael Hector in the back.
Let's hope so, but Hector alone can't hold it together. He/we will need at least two prem quality new additions to bolster the back line.
:005:
Well, we can all at least agree that we need a starting RB instead of Odoi or Christie no?
I'm ok with sending out the squad that recently lost to Leeds and see where we stand, then we go from there. (except the RB spot)
Bring in players to challenge existing starters...but see how the starters do.
I just have to say the lads that took us up deserve a crack at playing. If I were working (playing in this case) for an organisation that through my endeavours had helped land a £160m contract (the premiership) then I would be royally pissed off if my efforts were not recognised.
For squad harmony and cohesion any new additions we are likely to buy or loan (especially loan) have to be introduced on merit...by working hard on the training pitch with Parker and the coaches.
Most of us who witnessed the massive cock up last time of a team (I say that loosely as they were all practically strangers) newly promoted playing one of the opponents (C.Palace) we may have had a chance of beating just taken to the sword by them must have short memories.
A 'Team' runs best with understanding and spirit. I would be extremely unhappy if wholesale changes were made to our promotional line-up. No more than one, possibly two new faces play in the opening match (whoever that's against) and only then introduced as subs.
That's more or less how we did it under Tigana and it worked.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 09, 2020, 05:44:04 PM
:005:
Well, we can all at least agree that we need a starting RB instead of Odoi or Christie no?
I'm ok with sending out the squad that recently lost to Leeds and see where we stand, then we go from there. (except the RB spot)
Bring in players to challenge existing starters...but see how the starters do.
We 100% can't start a Premier League season with Tim Ream. He was out of his depth last time. It would be so wrong to go down that route again. The club must act fast and secure a quality partner for Hector. The position is critical to Premier League survival even at this early stage of preparation.
Would like to see a team of
Rodak
Sabaly Hector Tomori Bryan
Reed Anguissa
Knockeart Onomah Babel
Mitro
Subs - Bettinelli Kongolo Ream Cairney Kebano Cavaleiro Bobby
Quote from: Whitestone on August 09, 2020, 05:59:46 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 09, 2020, 05:44:04 PM
:005:
Well, we can all at least agree that we need a starting RB instead of Odoi or Christie no?
I'm ok with sending out the squad that recently lost to Leeds and see where we stand, then we go from there. (except the RB spot)
Bring in players to challenge existing starters...but see how the starters do.
We 100% can't start a Premier League season with Tim Ream. He was out of his depth last time. It would be so wrong to go down that route again. The club must act fast and secure a quality partner for Hector. The position is critical to Premier League survival even at this early stage of preparation.
+1
A team can get by with a mediocre RB or LB, not so much with CB. If the center folds your whole defense is done for. This goes double for a Parker team since so much of the play goes through the CB's.
Quote from: MrFFC on August 09, 2020, 06:43:18 PM
Would like to see a team of
Rodak
Sabaly Hector Tomori Bryan
Reed Anguissa
Knockeart Onomah Babel
Mitro
Subs - Bettinelli Kongolo Ream Cairney Kebano Cavaleiro Bobby
Would love to see this
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Uhm...are we looking at a loan for Tomori? He'd be a nice addition, but that'd mean he's going to miss our two games against Chelsea.
Quote from: Statto on August 09, 2020, 06:47:37 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on August 09, 2020, 05:59:46 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 09, 2020, 05:44:04 PM
:005:
Well, we can all at least agree that we need a starting RB instead of Odoi or Christie no?
I'm ok with sending out the squad that recently lost to Leeds and see where we stand, then we go from there. (except the RB spot)
Bring in players to challenge existing starters...but see how the starters do.
We 100% can't start a Premier League season with Tim Ream. He was out of his depth last time. It would be so wrong to go down that route again. The club must act fast and secure a quality partner for Hector. The position is critical to Premier League survival even at this early stage of preparation.
+1
+2 - I know we've just been promoted but you can't afford to look through rose tinted spectacles if we want to stay up next season. Ream got torn a new one most weeks last time in the PL and that was coming off the back of the best 6 months of his career, form wise. This season he's shown himself to be inconsistent in the championship so how on earth do we expect him to cope against a whole different calibre of player?? I love him for his service to the club because he's been a big part of getting us up twice, however I want us to be more forward thinking as a club and replace him with someone younger and better ASAP, because I don't want us to be on the verge of breaking the goals conceded record again
Rodak
*NEW-RB Hector Ream Bryan
Reed Cairney
Onomah
Kamara Mitro Kebano
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New RB - first choice for me, even though we're not linked, is Deandre Yedlin. Has the pace, good passing and experience in the PL is significant.
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I choose Ream because Hector-Ream combo has been untouched for a while. Why break what doesn't need fixing? Ream also has the highest passing % next to Cairney. In a possession based system like ours, again, why touch this?
Regarding the Ream of our last PL stint, doesn't matter. Contextually speaking, our entire team struggled then. Struggled to find an identity, struggled to build chemistry, struggled to adapt to not just to Slav's system, but Ranieri's as well.
GK M Rodak
RB (new)
RCB M Hector
LCB (new)
LB J Bryan
RM A Knockaert
RCM H Reed
LCM A Anguissa
LM (preferably R Sessegnon, if not I Cavaleiro)
CAM J Onomah
ST A Mitrovic
4-4-1-1. Would not start Cairney, and we don't need wholesale changes.
Quote from: Matt10 on August 10, 2020, 12:03:33 AM
New RB - first choice for me, even though we're not linked, is Deandre Yedlin. Has the pace, good passing and experience in the PL is significant.
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I choose Ream because Hector-Ream combo has been untouched for a while. Why break what doesn't need fixing?
Why sign a new RB then? If alternating between Odoi and Christie was good enough it get us promoted, it's obviously working well.
Rodak
Yedlin Hector Smalling Bryan
Reed Cairney
RW Onomah Kebano/Cav
Mitro
I really like the idea of the back line having Michael Hector and Chris Smalling. I also feel bad that, as an American I'd forgotten about DeAndre'. Other than his pace though, I don't see him as that big an upgrade over Christie. Pace and workrate. I'm liking the Wolfsburg RB as well, but Deandre has EPL experience.
Still need to sign a right winger that is better than Knock...otherwise I start Anthony on the RW even though I think his timing with the other attacking players is off.
Unfortunately...Chris Smalling might cost 25 million just on his own.
Quote from: Statto on August 10, 2020, 01:05:15 AM
Quote from: Matt10 on August 10, 2020, 12:03:33 AM
New RB - first choice for me, even though we're not linked, is Deandre Yedlin. Has the pace, good passing and experience in the PL is significant.
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I choose Ream because Hector-Ream combo has been untouched for a while. Why break what doesn't need fixing?
Why sign a new RB then? If alternating between Odoi and Christie was good enough it get us promoted, it's obviously working well.
We need a number of reinforcements, but the upgrade we need before pre-season is left-center back. For me, Tim Ream is not even good enough to be our first choice LCB for automatic promotion in the championship, Alfie Mawson is basically still coming back from injury and other center-backs (MLM and Odoi) may only have another season at premier league squad standard left in them.
We need to start creating a great central defensive partnership for the next few seasons that can both keep us up or help us get back up if we go down. Other positions like wingers, strikers, and full-backs can be parachuted in closer to the start of the season (or just before deadline day around game five) as required more easily.
Quote from: Statto on August 10, 2020, 01:05:15 AM
Quote from: Matt10 on August 10, 2020, 12:03:33 AM
New RB - first choice for me, even though we're not linked, is Deandre Yedlin. Has the pace, good passing and experience in the PL is significant.
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I choose Ream because Hector-Ream combo has been untouched for a while. Why break what doesn't need fixing?
Why sign a new RB then? If alternating between Odoi and Christie was good enough it get us promoted, it's obviously working well.
I'd be fine with Christie. Odoi still has moments that leave me shaking my head, but he's been good overall. I personally like Yedlin a lot. Have followed his career since he played for Seattle with Dempsey. His pace is still very good, and can cross a ball in. He's been a bit too injury prone over the years, and his size isn't the best, but I think it would be an interesting fold to the RB competition.
Assuming the premier league rules allow only 25 players over a certain age to be registered then the first priority should be making some space for new players.
There are one or two who may wish to leave such as Bettinelli and Johanson (possibly McDonald and Mawson) to get first team football elsewhere and there are one or two who are not good enough to stay such as MLM, Opoku and Kamara.
That would allow room for a new CB, a new RB, a CDM and a striker. A top class CB is in my opinion necessary. Odoi and Christie (and Sess and Fossey) can cover if need be at RB so a new RB would be nice but is not essential. Odoi can cover Bryan at LB. Reed and/or Anguissa at CDM and, most important of all, a back up is needed for Mitrovic up front. The lack of a decent striker to play when Mitro is injured or suspended, or to come on if we need to go with 2 up front, has been obvious all season.
Cav, Knockhaert and Kebano are alright without being great, although sometimes it takes time to really settle into a new club and new tactics. A top class addition there would not go amiss.
With Norman having left the club may need a new GK if Bettinelli leaves.
Above all quality rather than quantity.
Quote from: Whitestone on August 09, 2020, 05:59:46 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 09, 2020, 05:44:04 PM
:005:
Well, we can all at least agree that we need a starting RB instead of Odoi or Christie no?
I'm ok with sending out the squad that recently lost to Leeds and see where we stand, then we go from there. (except the RB spot)
Bring in players to challenge existing starters...but see how the starters do.
We 100% can't start a Premier League season with Tim Ream. He was out of his depth last time. It would be so wrong to go down that route again. The club must act fast and secure a quality partner for Hector. The position is critical to Premier League survival even at this early stage of preparation.
I do agree but I thought he played brilliantly in the final. And he did ping a beautiful pass out to Knockhaert. He will be back up for sure. Where does that leave Mawson and MLM?
Quote from: The Cravenette on August 10, 2020, 01:10:34 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on August 09, 2020, 05:59:46 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 09, 2020, 05:44:04 PM
:005:
Well, we can all at least agree that we need a starting RB instead of Odoi or Christie no?
I'm ok with sending out the squad that recently lost to Leeds and see where we stand, then we go from there. (except the RB spot)
Bring in players to challenge existing starters...but see how the starters do.
We 100% can't start a Premier League season with Tim Ream. He was out of his depth last time. It would be so wrong to go down that route again. The club must act fast and secure a quality partner for Hector. The position is critical to Premier League survival even at this early stage of preparation.
I do agree but I thought he played brilliantly in the final. And he did ping a beautiful pass out to Knockhaert. He will be back up for sure. Where does that leave Mawson and MLM?
He also pinged about five passes straight to Brentford players
Rodak
New RB--Hector--New CB--Bryan (for now)
Reed
Anguissa Onomah
New RW Babel
Mitrovic
Quote from: Whitestone on August 09, 2020, 05:59:46 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 09, 2020, 05:44:04 PM
:005:
Well, we can all at least agree that we need a starting RB instead of Odoi or Christie no?
I'm ok with sending out the squad that recently lost to Leeds and see where we stand, then we go from there. (except the RB spot)
Bring in players to challenge existing starters...but see how the starters do.
We 100% can't start a Premier League season with Tim Ream. He was out of his depth last time. It would be so wrong to go down that route again. The club must act fast and secure a quality partner for Hector. The position is critical to Premier League survival even at this early stage of preparation.
Agreed. A new LCB must be our main priority.
I actually think a new lcb is the priority, ream has done really well for us in his time here, but he was badly shown up in our last pl visit and he is 2 years older now. Also a good quality lcb will I think be able to cover for Bryan more and in turn give him more confidence.
Rodak
Aarons--Hector--Kongolo/Tomori--Bryan
Reed
Anguissa Onomah
Buendia Babel
Mitrovic
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on August 10, 2020, 01:24:13 PM
Rodak
New RB--Hector--New CB--Bryan (for now)
Reed
Anguissa Onomah
New RW Babel
Mitrovic
It's clear everyone thinks we need at least 5 players with three key being LCB, RB, CM and RW. And that doesn't necessarily include buying Reed and maybe Arter.
I'd say Babel and Anguissa are two obvious bring backs from our last season. Babel was class whilst Anguissa towards the end and after Parker became our manager really showed his class, he's done even better at Villareal and I'd be suprised if he came back under contract and didn't want to either give a good showing of himself or make amends.
Seri - lesser league, less interested in keeping.
I believe that there is a danger of going too far the other way here - too much loyalty to the team that got us promoted. I think we agree that there were too many changes last time out, but provided we can get Reed signed up - essential are two signings in defence at RB and CB (Kongolo) to go straight into the starting line-up. They should immediately replace Ream and Christie, who just don't have the pace for the Premier League. Both of these players are fine however as back-up.
In terms of other signings - then I believe that another 1-2 players up front (Babel would be a cheap but fairly reliable signing) and possibly another centre half like Ampadu to be third choice will be enough. This is bearing in mind that Kongolo can cover at left back and Ampadu apparently at defensive midfield.
My view on Anguissa and Seri is that we should sell them if possible (ditto Mawson, MLM and Knockaert), with loan as a fall back option. I agree that Anguissa has potential, but don't think he deserves to just walk back into the team. I do hope that Steve Sess or Fossey can make the RB slot their own in 1-2 seasons, but for now they need regular playing time on loan...
Quote from: Mullers OG on August 10, 2020, 10:17:37 AM
Assuming the premier league rules allow only 25 players over a certain age to be registered then the first priority should be making some space for new players.
No space is required to be made for additions, we currently have four spots available in the squad, which is enough to get us an RB, CB, LB and CF, plus we can additionally bring youth centre-back Ethan Ampadu for extra defensive cover.
Probable Start of Season Squad (25 adults and 3 youth)
GK: Rodak, Betts, Fabri
FB: New RB, New LB, Christie, Bryan, S.Sess
CB: Hector, New LCB, Mawson, Ream, MLM
MF: Anguissa, Cairney, Onamah, Seri, Stefjo, KMac
WF: Cav, Knockaert, Kebano, Kamara
CF: Mitro, New FW, Stansfield
Utility: Ethan Ampadu (CB/DM) and Reid (AM/LW/CF)
Further Additions have natural players to send on loan (or sell) buying another goalkeeper would probably mean Betts or Fabri would ask to move on.
buying another defensive midfielder (e.g. Reed) would probably mean KMac or Seri would ask to move on.
buying another central midfielder (e.g. Arter) would probably mean Stefjo or Seri would ask to move on.
buying another winger (eg. Babel) would probably mean Kamara or Kebano would go on loan to get game time.
In conclusion, we have enough space for a GK, RB, RCB, LCB, LB, DM, CM, RW and CF without telling anyone to leave.
Rad Fan, funny you have Ampatu named, but leave out Arter and Reed?
Also a bit puzzled you seem to rate Cav, Knocky and D-Reid over and above Kamara and freekick taker Kebano. Read recently only 2 players had scored more than Kebano from Direct Freekicks in PL and EPL in 2019 season. So would be very useful to keep about. :wow:
Quote from: 3-lions on August 11, 2020, 01:07:09 PM
Rad Fan, funny you have Ampatu named, but leave out Arter and Reed?
Also a bit puzzled you seem to rate Cav, Knocky and D-Reid over and above Kamara and freekick taker Kebano. Read recently only 2 players had scored more than Kebano from Direct Freekicks in PL and EPL in 2019 season. So would be very useful to keep about. :wow:
It's hard to judge Kebano and Kamara, they definitely need more chances to prove or disprove people's belief in them. Kebano and Kamara need to play preseason, because if their current form continues with Mitro on Fire (plus Knock, Cav, Reid and Stansfield as backups) then we have one of the strongest front-lines ever to be promoted from the championship. Before we get too excited, Kebano from we know now is not yet a premier league player and would need at least a half dozen more games of recent quality to convince me, especially as Parker has seen him all season and mostly didn't pick him.
I think Cav, Knocky, Reid, Kamara, and Kebano are all excellent premier league squad players, but all would struggle to start in other teams. If we bring in additional wingers, then it is because Kamara and Kebano aren't good enough to be premier league starters and both of them need game time to improve as they have both spent a lot of time training and not much time playing. Kebano or Kamara could improve significantly if on loan for half a season, which would help us long term especially if they play the second half of the season or if they play for us next season.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on August 11, 2020, 01:19:08 PM
Quote from: 3-lions on August 11, 2020, 01:07:09 PM
Rad Fan, funny you have Ampatu named, but leave out Arter and Reed?
Also a bit puzzled you seem to rate Cav, Knocky and D-Reid over and above Kamara and freekick taker Kebano. Read recently only 2 players had scored more than Kebano from Direct Freekicks in PL and EPL in 2019 season. So would be very useful to keep about. :wow:
I think Cav, Knocky, Reid, Kamara, and Kebano are all excellent premier league squad players, but all would struggle to start in other teams. If we bring in additional wingers, then it is because Kamara and Kebano aren't good enough to be premier league starters and both of them need game time to improve as they have both spent a lot of time training and not much time playing. Kebano or Kamara could improve significantly if on loan for half a season, which would help us long term especially if they play the second half of the season or if they play for us next season.
I would select Kamara and Kebano over and above the likes of Knockaert Cav and Reid, Kebano and Kamara have both made an impact now that they have been given an opportunity whereas Cav and Knockaert are not team players and have had their chance. Reid has been ok cannot really fault but Knock and Cav flatter to deceive.
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Rad Fan, funny you have Ampatu named, but leave out Arter and Reed?
Also a bit puzzled you seem to rate Cav, Knocky and D-Reid over and above Kamara and freekick taker Kebano. Read recently only 2 players had scored more than Kebano from Direct Freekicks in PL and EPL in 2019 season. So would be very useful to keep about. :wow:
I think Cav, Knocky, Reid, Kamara, and Kebano are all excellent premier league squad players, but all would struggle to start in other teams. If we bring in additional wingers, then it is because Kamara and Kebano aren't good enough to be premier league starters and both of them need game time to improve as they have both spent a lot of time training and not much time playing. Kebano or Kamara could improve significantly if on loan for half a season, which would help us long term especially if they play the second half of the season or if they play for us next season.
I would select Kamara and Kebano over and above the likes of Knockaert Cav and Reid, Kebano and Kamara have both made an impact now that they have been given an opportunity whereas Cav and Knockaert are not team players and have had their chance. Reid has been ok cannot really fault but Knock and Cav flatter to deceive.
I must say the two wingers are the most confusing position in the squad at the moment. I think the preseason priority must be adding to our defense and getting a backup striker, then seeing if any of our wingers start to shine. Lets hope Kebano's form continues and he can be a starter, because his attitude is second to none.
Quote from: Statto on August 10, 2020, 01:05:15 AM
Quote from: Matt10 on August 10, 2020, 12:03:33 AM
New RB - first choice for me, even though we're not linked, is Deandre Yedlin. Has the pace, good passing and experience in the PL is significant.
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I choose Ream because Hector-Ream combo has been untouched for a while. Why break what doesn't need fixing?
Why sign a new RB then? If alternating between Odoi and Christie was good enough it get us promoted, it's obviously working well.
The Ream-Odoi partnership conceded 13 goals in the last 23 games and then failed dismally in the Premier League. The Ream-Hector partnership conceded 21 goals in the last 23 games so I wouldn't expect it to go better in the premier league. Ream wouldn't start for any Premier League team, and if he plays attacks will target him. Hector is no way near good enough to cover for Ream in Premier League like he does in the Championship. We need at least one CB and possibly two CB's during the summer, once we have a settled centre back pairing other issues can resolve themselves.
Rodak
Ivanovic--Hector--Kongolo--Bryan
Reed
Anguissa Onomah
Kamara Babel
Mitrovic
Not sure i see the point in picking a line up & including players who have not signed for us. May of course just be the heat getting to me.
IMO, one of the most critical positions for us is going to be the midfield anchor man or CDM, as the role now seems to be called.
99% of people on here seem to think that Harrison Reed will do the job at PL level. I like him, he had a great end to the season but I've also seen him struggle. I think we should have some PL level alternatives here. KMcD has probably seen his best years and StefJo seems massively out of favour. I'd look for an alternative with PL proven experience who could fight for a place with Reed. Sadly, nobody springs to mind but I do think we are deluding ourselves if we think Reed is going to be the lynch-pin of staying up.
