Sept 11th, yep one day before the season starts, last season's red away shirt will be the new third kit.
If true, we must be really struggling to get a first team sponsor
Always the last to release our new kit.........really is poo by the club when the other teams seem to play the last game of the season before for fans to see and decide. I wanted the new one a few seasons back for me and my boy for holiday which was the end of August......no chance
Not overly bothered but, as a marketing person myself, I really don't see the logic in this.
Quote from: Classic94 on August 14, 2020, 08:21:18 PM
Not overly bothered but, as a marketing person myself, I really don't see the logic in this.
like I said, unless anyone knows anything different, then we don't have a first team sponsor. We are never going to show a kit without a sponsor on it
I'd rather have a plain shirt without some company logo sprawled across it.
Quote from: Benny on August 14, 2020, 08:17:45 PM
Always the last to release our new kit.........really is poo by the club when the other teams seem to play the last game of the season before for fans to see and decide. I wanted the new one a few seasons back for me and my boy for holiday which was the end of August......no chance
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 14, 2020, 08:44:13 PM
I'd rather have a plain shirt without some company logo sprawled across it.
me too, doubt the money men would agree though
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2020, 08:17:45 PM
If true, we must be really struggling to get a first team sponsor
Probably not. It happens every year at Fulham. We're always as good as dammit last to release new kit details. Commercially it doesn't make sense but that's the way it is.
Can't imagine its because Adidas are farting around with the design. My assumption is that they're hammering out the new sponsorship deal and its not been agreed yet.
Quote from: Whitestone on August 14, 2020, 09:05:05 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2020, 08:17:45 PM
If true, we must be really struggling to get a first team sponsor
Probably not. It happens every year at Fulham. We're always as good as dammit last to release new kit details. Commercially it doesn't make sense but that's the way it is.
not normally that late though, last time it was that late was when we did a last minute deal with boat Florida
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2020, 09:08:52 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on August 14, 2020, 09:05:05 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2020, 08:17:45 PM
If true, we must be really struggling to get a first team sponsor
Probably not. It happens every year at Fulham. We're always as good as dammit last to release new kit details. Commercially it doesn't make sense but that's the way it is.
not normally that late though, last time it was that late was when we did a last minute deal with boat Florida
Agree, we're not normally the night before ! Maybe COVID-19, the play-offs and simply trying to get the best deal in the current climate have played a part.
They could still release the kit to the media for viewing but don't
That's the excuse every season that it's a sponsor issue or trouble........A prem London club having trouble with a sponsor...really?
Quote from: Whitestone on August 14, 2020, 09:12:38 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2020, 09:08:52 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on August 14, 2020, 09:05:05 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2020, 08:17:45 PM
If true, we must be really struggling to get a first team sponsor
Probably not. It happens every year at Fulham. We're always as good as dammit last to release new kit details. Commercially it doesn't make sense but that's the way it is.
not normally that late though, last time it was that late was when we did a last minute deal with boat Florida
Agree, we're not normally the night before ! Maybe COVID-19, the play-offs and simply trying to get the best deal in the current climate have played a part.
yep, would imagine that throwing money at sponsoring someone is the last thing on the agenda on this climate.
Quote from: Whitestone on August 14, 2020, 09:12:38 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2020, 09:08:52 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on August 14, 2020, 09:05:05 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2020, 08:17:45 PM
If true, we must be really struggling to get a first team sponsor
Probably not. It happens every year at Fulham. We're always as good as dammit last to release new kit details. Commercially it doesn't make sense but that's the way it is.
not normally that late though, last time it was that late was when we did a last minute deal with boat Florida
Agree, we're not normally the night before ! Maybe COVID-19, the play-offs and simply trying to get the best deal in the current climate have played a part.
Can understand with the delay season finished late. More money being in the premier league more sponsors interested getting the best deal for the club in the limited time available
I would like Fulham to set a precedent here against betting and alcohol advertising and do what Barcelona did a few years back - they chose Unicef, as they had never previously had sponsors on their shirts - and choose Trussell Trust (feeding those who are struggling to feed themselves and that it is only going to get worse when 'furlough' ends) or Charities Aid Foundation (CAF) and make a financial donation to the charity! Making money by selling sponsorship is all well and good but sometimes altruism is 'good for the soul'
Quote from: ffcwickford on August 14, 2020, 09:33:53 PM
I would like Fulham to set a precedent here against betting and alcohol advertising and do what Barcelona did a few years back - they chose Unicef, as they had never previously had sponsors on their shirts - and choose Trussell Trust (feeding those who are struggling to feed themselves and that it is only going to get worse when 'furlough' ends) or Charities Aid Foundation (CAF) and make a financial donation to the charity! Making money by selling sponsorship is all well and good but sometimes altruism is 'good for the soul'
Well said............ although at the moment Barca might struggle to lead the way in anything. I don't know anything about the finances involved with any would be sponsor but it would be a bit of a coup if Khan looked in his spare change jar and said "sod it, no logos this year"
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 14, 2020, 08:44:13 PM
I'd rather have a plain shirt without some company logo sprawled across it.
One of the few things my American football has done right.
I hate the Chevrolet logo on ManUtd's kit.
Normally the shirt design is finalised around November(ish) so it must be down to sponsorship?
my guess is that due to the extended season, even longer for the teams involved in the play-offs, and the uncertainty of promotion the shirt "main" sponsor as well as the "sleeve" sponsor deals as the cause for the delay.
Sponsorship for us as a Championship club would cost far less than as a Premiership club and with all the "belt-tightening" that's likely to be happening over the next few months I'm not so sure there are too many companies queuing-up to throw money at us?
Any sponsor will also take into account what happened to us last time, we didn't exactly cover ourselves in glory did we?, therefor any potential sponsor will think long and hard about the lack of kudos potentially waiting for them. If we manage to say up next season the sponsorship would surely be easier for us to get as we'd be "less of a risk"?
Also most of our sponsorship deals have been more than one season, with the exception of Visit Florida which was a very "last minute" deal I'm sure that the club have been talking to a limited number of suitors with a number of costs depending on how long a deal, what league we're in, how successful a season, more money for higher position? and all sorts of stuff we probably couldn't think of.
Having said all that we (the club) surely must know who the main sponsor is by now, apart from anything else the shirts have to be made and I'm guessing that isn't an instant job.
To play devils advocate I actually quite like the kits having sponsors as it gives a nice bit of nostalgia that is instantly recognisable.
I like to recall the Demon Internet days, Pizza hut days etc
Why not have the Kahn company as the kit sponsor?
https://www.flex-n-gate.com/
Maybe not super sexy but it could make sense.
Quote from: G_Gribby on August 15, 2020, 08:15:31 AM
Why not have the Kahn company as the kit sponsor?
https://www.flex-n-gate.com/
Maybe not super sexy but it could make sense.
probably fall foul of FFP?
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 14, 2020, 10:05:42 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 14, 2020, 08:44:13 PM
I'd rather have a plain shirt without some company logo sprawled across it.
One of the few things my American football has done right.
I hate the Chevrolet logo on ManUtd's kit.
The Chevrolet logo is bad, isn't it? I preferred their AIG sponsored kits.
The NFL doesn't have to put logos on the uniforms because the logos go with the league and not any one team. Professional European football is a Darwinian survival of the fittest, may the best team win setup. So every penny that can be had counts. The idea of Fulham being able to afford to put a charity logo on their shirt or have not logo, is foolishness thought. And with FFP, the Khans, can't just pay for everything, the club has to earn it.
Quote from: ffcwickford on August 14, 2020, 09:33:53 PM
I would like Fulham to set a precedent here against betting and alcohol advertising and do what Barcelona did a few years back - they chose Unicef, as they had never previously had sponsors on their shirts - and choose Trussell Trust (feeding those who are struggling to feed themselves and that it is only going to get worse when 'furlough' ends) or Charities Aid Foundation (CAF) and make a financial donation to the charity! Making money by selling sponsorship is all well and good but sometimes altruism is 'good for the soul'
I don't see this ever happening. It would be foolish.
I'm bored with gambling companies sponsoring kits. Nothing against a flutter, do it myself every know and then.
However, alcohol sponsorship seems to have dried up. Let's see a Fulham shirt sponsored by London Pride or Remy Martin, or Ardbeg whisky 😋
Quote from: Penfold on August 15, 2020, 04:00:05 PM
I'm bored with gambling companies sponsoring kits. Nothing against a flutter, do it myself every know and then.
However, alcohol sponsorship seems to have dried up. Let's see a Fulham shirt sponsored by London Pride or Remy Martin, or Ardbeg whisky 😋
I would buy both home and away kits if they have Ardbeg as a sponsor hahahaha
Quote from: G_Gribby on August 15, 2020, 08:15:31 AM
Why not have the Kahn company as the kit sponsor?
https://www.flex-n-gate.com/
Maybe not super sexy but it could make sense.
It means someone else can put money into the club too !!!
Southampton sponsor has pulled out costing them 15 million.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 16, 2020, 10:00:01 AM
Southampton sponsor has pulled out costing them 15 million.
Prehaps their big Harrison Reed fans and going to follow him to Fulham
Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on August 15, 2020, 01:44:34 PM
Quote from: ffcwickford on August 14, 2020, 09:33:53 PM
I would like Fulham to set a precedent here against betting and alcohol advertising and do what Barcelona did a few years back - they chose Unicef, as they had never previously had sponsors on their shirts - and choose Trussell Trust (feeding those who are struggling to feed themselves and that it is only going to get worse when 'furlough' ends) or Charities Aid Foundation (CAF) and make a financial donation to the charity! Making money by selling sponsorship is all well and good but sometimes altruism is 'good for the soul'
I don't see this ever happening. It would be foolish.
Barca only choose Unicef so fans couldnt complain about having a sponsor for the first time, moan about a children charity how does that make them look, once they finished with Uncief the big deals came in and fans couldnt moan as they already had sponsors on their shirts all very celver by the marketing people.
Quote from: Penfold on August 15, 2020, 04:00:05 PM
I'm bored with gambling companies sponsoring kits. Nothing against a flutter, do it myself every know and then.
However, alcohol sponsorship seems to have dried up. Let's see a Fulham shirt sponsored by London Pride or Remy Martin, or Ardbeg whisky 😋
London Pride! That's a pre season bingo. They don't sponsor football, their sponsorship goes to rugger which fits their demographic
Quote from: Wolf on August 16, 2020, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: Penfold on August 15, 2020, 04:00:05 PM
I'm bored with gambling companies sponsoring kits. Nothing against a flutter, do it myself every know and then.
However, alcohol sponsorship seems to have dried up. Let's see a Fulham shirt sponsored by London Pride or Remy Martin, or Ardbeg whisky 😋
London Pride! That's a pre season bingo. They don't sponsor football, their sponsorship goes to rugger which fits their demographic
They have loads of advertising at Brentford but that is a historic link as the brewery used to own the site that is Griffin Park (soon to be housing)
I never buy the new shirt anymore. By the time I get used to it and begin to like it more, a couple of months have passed, and i think... I'll just wait till next seasons now. Rinse and repeat.
