After Lockdown we scored one goal put under the wall when everyone jumped. Then in the final we scored by out foxing the Brentford keeper. Now our last pre season friendly and nobody knows anything about our team and what tactics we employed. Parker seems to be the sly old fox to me.
has parker taken credit for kebanos free kicks then?
Parker's reputation, much like Anguissa, seems to have increased ten fold and I am not sure why.
Parker would have been sacked if no promotion.
Quote from: absenteeism on September 07, 2020, 11:21:03 AM
Parker's reputation, much like Anguissa, seems to have increased ten fold and I am not sure why.
Parker would have been sacked if no promotion.
"They would have done a bad job, if they hadn't done a good job"
Quote from: fulhamben on September 07, 2020, 11:19:18 AM
has parker taken credit for kebanos free kicks then?
The free kicks were a revalation. kebs then Bryan. that doesn't just happen.
we have had these players for ages and one of the questions is why did it take so long to recognise the ability?
Personally I always though parker would get another season, i think much critisism of him was unfair. i was a bit disapointed we did not achieve top two with the squad but then we didn't have a proper defence until hector arrived and that made a remarkable difference. that is not down to parker' we also needed other players with more physical prescence and everything else we endlessly discuss.
i think parker really grew in stature during the play offs especially at wembley but the defeat to cardiff may have been the blessing in disguise.
but the free kicks were things of beauty and will staywith me for years.
Quote from: ALG01 on September 07, 2020, 11:42:36 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 07, 2020, 11:19:18 AM
has parker taken credit for kebanos free kicks then?
The free kicks were a revalation. kebs then Bryan. that doesn't just happen.
we have had these players for ages and one of the questions is why did it take so long to recognise the ability?
Personally I always though parker would get another season, i think much critisism of him was unfair. i was a bit disapointed we did not achieve top two with the squad but then we didn't have a proper defence until hector arrived and that made a remarkable difference. that is not down to parker' we also needed other players with more physical prescence and everything else we endlessly discuss.
i think parker really grew in stature during the play offs especially at wembley but the defeat to cardiff may have been the blessing in disguise.
but the free kicks were things of beauty and will staywith me for years.
ill give you bryans free kick, although knockeart disputes it and claims he came up with the idea, but kebanos? no chance, if we are giving parker credit for kebaons set pice ability, then we must also discredit him for allowing mitrovic to smash them into the wall for so long. kebano wouldnt have been taking them if mitro wasnt injured/suspended
Quote from: absenteeism on September 07, 2020, 11:21:03 AM
Parker's reputation, much like Anguissa, seems to have increased ten fold and I am not sure why.
Parker would have been sacked if no promotion.
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 07, 2020, 11:34:57 AM
alternatively ...." IF my auntie had balls she`d be my uncle !!
Quote from: absenteeism on September 07, 2020, 11:21:03 AM
Parker's reputation, much like Anguissa, seems to have increased ten fold and I am not sure why.
Parker would have been sacked if no promotion.
"They would have done a bad job, if they hadn't done a good job"
Quote from: absenteeism on September 07, 2020, 11:21:03 AM
Parker's reputation, much like Anguissa, seems to have increased ten fold and I am not sure why.
Parker would have been sacked if no promotion.
In my books he got the tactics for the play offs exactly right first time of asking, something not even Jokanovic could do. Parker may have been sacked without the Wembley win but I rather doubt it in the current atmosphere of a virus, and the strange world of professional sport with cameras watching but nothing in the vast areas designed to accommodate people. It's surreal and we really do need to get to grips with how we wish to live our lives virus or no virus. The circumstances have given us a chance in the PL and I believe Parker will make a better job of it than our former Serbian hero had a hope in hell of achieving.
Quote from: toshes mate on September 07, 2020, 12:20:55 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on September 07, 2020, 11:21:03 AM
Parker's reputation, much like Anguissa, seems to have increased ten fold and I am not sure why.
Parker would have been sacked if no promotion.
In my books he got the tactics for the play offs exactly right first time of asking, something not even Jokanovic could do. Parker may have been sacked without the Wembley win but I rather doubt it in the current atmosphere of a virus, and the strange world of professional sport with cameras watching but nothing in the vast areas designed to accommodate people. It's surreal and we really do need to get to grips with how we wish to live our lives virus or no virus. The circumstances have given us a chance in the PL and I believe Parker will make a better job of it than our former Serbian hero had a hope in hell of achieving.
As a "Parker Out" campaigner, I'll be happy if Parker keeps on proving how terribly wrong I have been to doubt him.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 07, 2020, 12:32:16 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on September 07, 2020, 12:20:55 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on September 07, 2020, 11:21:03 AM
Parker's reputation, much like Anguissa, seems to have increased ten fold and I am not sure why.
Parker would have been sacked if no promotion.
In my books he got the tactics for the play offs exactly right first time of asking, something not even Jokanovic could do. Parker may have been sacked without the Wembley win but I rather doubt it in the current atmosphere of a virus, and the strange world of professional sport with cameras watching but nothing in the vast areas designed to accommodate people. It's surreal and we really do need to get to grips with how we wish to live our lives virus or no virus. The circumstances have given us a chance in the PL and I believe Parker will make a better job of it than our former Serbian hero had a hope in hell of achieving.
As a "Parker Out" campaigner, I'll be happy if Parker keeps on proving how terribly wrong I have been to doubt him.
Same. I said so at the time, it's not personal, or a want for him to fail. I want him to succeed as its a win win and I don't think anyone wants Fulham to fail to spite face over Parker.
Quote from: Craven Mad on September 07, 2020, 11:34:57 AM
Quote from: absenteeism on September 07, 2020, 11:21:03 AM
Parker's reputation, much like Anguissa, seems to have increased ten fold and I am not sure why.
Parker would have been sacked if no promotion.
"They would have done a bad job, if they hadn't done a good job"
+1
Hodgson would have been sacked if we hadn't beaten Portsmouth
We are often asking what do players do in training. Free kicks penalties and the like are Not usually referred to but they are a big part of the game, especially close to goal. With players jumping to gain height at free kicks why not go underneath sometimes. Also getting keepers to stay back on their line will make it easy for our attacking team whether it is put over the top. It's a players job to stay fit it is a tacticians job to devise ways to win matches
can't wait for set pieces next year if we sign Aina and Wilson 049:gif
Kebano's free kicks and Bryan's Wemley goals were so enjoyable and a big feature of our promotion. However they were unusual and unlikely to continue. Take those goals away from the post Lockdown matches and our goal scoring record was dismal .
Without another goal scorer alongside Mitro it is difficult to see where our premier league goals will come from.
Quote from: FFC1987 on September 07, 2020, 12:36:28 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 07, 2020, 12:32:16 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on September 07, 2020, 12:20:55 PM
Quote from: absenteeism on September 07, 2020, 11:21:03 AM
Parker's reputation, much like Anguissa, seems to have increased ten fold and I am not sure why.
Parker would have been sacked if no promotion.
In my books he got the tactics for the play offs exactly right first time of asking, something not even Jokanovic could do. Parker may have been sacked without the Wembley win but I rather doubt it in the current atmosphere of a virus, and the strange world of professional sport with cameras watching but nothing in the vast areas designed to accommodate people. It's surreal and we really do need to get to grips with how we wish to live our lives virus or no virus. The circumstances have given us a chance in the PL and I believe Parker will make a better job of it than our former Serbian hero had a hope in hell of achieving.
As a "Parker Out" campaigner, I'll be happy if Parker keeps on proving how terribly wrong I have been to doubt him.
Same. I said so at the time, it's not personal, or a want for him to fail. I want him to succeed as its a win win and I don't think anyone wants Fulham to fail to spite face over Parker.
:plus one: Exactly my stance.
Talking of tactics and set pieces, who else noticed Joe Bryan lie down behind our defensive wall when we conceded a free kick in the second half of extra time against Brentford.
I've never seen that before and it was obviously in case Brentford tried to emulate Kebano's free kick under the wall.
I would love to know from Joe if that was a tactic discussed prior to the match (and, if so, whose idea it was) or if he just did it on a whim
Quote from: Hatch007 on September 07, 2020, 09:58:57 PM
Talking of tactics and set pieces, who else noticed Joe Bryan lie down behind our defensive wall when we conceded a free kick in the second half of extra time against Brentford.
I've never seen that before and it was obviously in case Brentford tried to emulate Kebano's free kick under the wall.
I would love to know from Joe if that was a tactic discussed prior to the match (and, if so, whose idea it was) or if he just did it on a whim
quite a few teams do it now. Makes a lot of sense to do it imo
quite a few teams do it now. Makes a lot of sense to do it imo
It sure does make sense which makes it all the more bizarre I've never noticed it done before. I obviously need to pay more attention 🧐
I just hope we have turned a corner as I found some of last season painful to watch.
Hopefully the confidence generated from the Play-Off wins can be long-lasting.
We have seen that Parker can get it spot-on tactically and I think it is obvious that the guy is a deep thinker who cares deeply about he job. Whatever our criticisms of him during last season, I think it would have been really unfair to say that he was a freeloader who didn't have his heart in the job. To me, that was never the case.
Let's hope he has learnt and progressed over the season, that the arguably more strategic and tactical game in the Premier is something Parker can deal with more than many of the other managers at so-called smaller clubs so that we survive. The minimum aim has to be to beat all bottom half teams at home and at least draw against them away - that would be 40 points and hopefully we'll pick up a few more points with unexpected draws and wins. I could see Parker setting out a formula/game-plan to achieve whatever he believes is our maximum potential and, after the play-offs, optimistically, he could pull it off. But it will be a hard year.
The real question is, once the squad has been finalised with new arrivals, whether the gap in player ability is too big between us and the top 17 teams. Let's hope not and let's hope that at least one new CB arrives who has proven Premier experience.
Is Parker our Ace Face? I really do hope so. Let's back him all the way.
COYW
Well the start of the season will be a test for Parker. Not just for the results. But having players come into the squad after the season starts. Keeping players together trying not to have a them and us split as seemed obvious when we were last in the Prem. Tactics and team spirit will be pretty much under the microscope. So whoever you believe was responsible for the poor tactics at the start of the season or the much improved tactics right at the end and the free kicks etc. It wont matter once the season gets under way.
Hopefully Parker will be given the season whatever the results.
Mr Gray, spotted the Brentford keeper.... apparently his hobby is watching bleeding hours of opposition football, while sorting out the back five.... he's an unsung hero...not sure why JK got rid of him
