To take corners ?
I have no idea why he's started every game so far this season, I hate to keep bagging on him but I just don't get it, please fill me in if I'm missing something ?
I just feel Keebano or AK are far more effective, it just feels like a case of teachers pet
Other then that I saw potential in us today and I'm not complaining I just don't understand Parker's obsession with him
I always thought Knockhart was a better player for us and was annoyed that he was left out and then loaned out. Cav again has just not been present this season. Seems like he is filling up a spot that could be better served by having somebody else filling it.
Quote from: Lighthouse on October 18, 2020, 03:14:16 PM
I always thought Knockhart was a better player for us and was annoyed that he was left out and then loaned out. Cav again has just not been present this season. Seems like he is filling up a spot that could be better served by having somebody else filling it.
Yeah if I had to pick one of the two I'd say Knockeart would get the edge but personally I don't think either of em are up to scratch at this level, I'd like to see an inform AK on the right tearing down the wing
Good question. He was invisible on the pitch, contributed nothing. Head scratcher....
i'd rather bryan play instead. Better going forward and defensively. could cut in etc
Cav also stopped Aina contributing to attacking play. How can you overlap him when you know he's going to give the ball away?
A thoroughly poor performance from him. What on earth is the solution to the RW area? Can we play both Tete and Aina once Tete recovers? Or just put a cone/mannequin out on the right wing?
You can't even make a case that he tackles back and is very enthusiastic!
Its even worse than playing bad because Cavaliero offers nothing and actually hinders our attacking options.
Quote from: WindyCity on October 18, 2020, 03:20:15 PM
Good question. He was invisible on the pitch, contributed nothing. Head scratcher....
Week in week out
The mind boggles
Cav is one of Khans big picks . He wanted him the year we went up with Joka .He seemed incapable of finding space.I would pick bryan on the left to try and double up down that side . Robinson was way too far forward in the first half and giving the guy too much space . Much better in the second , got closer to his man and timed his forward runs .
Let's also not forget it was his rugby style tackle that led to their goal
He needs to do a lot more. Really hard to see why he is starting never-mind playing 90 mins every week.
He cannot be blamed for their goal or Aina's performance. Come on FFS.
With that said I agree he was poor today. But IMO he's still better overall than Kebano and AK47 (who may have flashes of promises but they never sustain it) and he evidently produced more than Knockaert (frankly I don't give a to$$ whether a winger "tries hard" when we don't have possession).
IMO the unfortunate reality is that we needed to bring in some quality in that position but we'd spent too much on Knockaert, Reid and Cavaleiro not to have at least one of them in the starting XI regularly this year.
In an ideal world, RLC would be able to play out there or perhaps we play Bryan on LW and Lookman RW.
Bryan should be playing on the wing or kebano ak is only an impact sub for me
Someone tell me the last time he had a good game. Just find it strange how he is continually chosen.
Quote from: Big T on October 18, 2020, 04:53:07 PM
Let's also not forget it was his rugby style tackle that led to their goal
Professional foul, I thought. Good time for it too.
Quote from: Lighthouse on October 18, 2020, 03:14:16 PM
I always thought Knockhart was a better player for us and was annoyed that he was left out and then loaned out. Cav again has just not been present this season. Seems like he is filling up a spot that could be better served by having somebody else filling it.
They're both not good enough, but at least Cav strikes a good corner. I'd bring in Kebano next game.
Cav should have gone before Knockaert
I really would prefer not to see Cav in the team again!
I am always surprised to see Cav in the starting line up, Kebano, Bryan, Kamara or Reid seem better options.
Cav. has some pace, strength and a shot which probably all look good in training but are never put to good use in matches.
I think it's worth giving Bryan a go LW and Lookman RW as has been discussed.
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on October 18, 2020, 03:20:51 PM
i'd rather bryan play instead. Better going forward and defensively. could cut in etc
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On the left I would put in Bryan !! I cannot work Cava out at all.... " look at Lookman and just do that on the other side 🙄 "
Quote from: Statto on October 18, 2020, 05:16:35 PM
He cannot be blamed for their goal or Aina's performance. Come on FFS.
With that said I agree he was poor today. But IMO he's still better overall than Kebano and AK47 (who may have flashes of promises but they never sustain it) and he evidently produced more than Knockaert (frankly I don't give a to$$ whether a winger "tries hard" when we don't have possession).
IMO the unfortunate reality is that we needed to bring in some quality in that position but we'd spent too much on Knockaert, Reid and Cavaleiro not to have at least one of them in the starting XI regularly this year.
In an ideal world, RLC would be able to play
out there or perhaps we play Bryan on LW and Lookman RW.
Poor today ?????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He's been shockingly useless every game, the rugby tackle only came after he got skinned,
HTF can you defend him
And what does Keebano have to do to get a game ? We wouldn't be in the premier league if it wasn't for Keebano's form at the end of last season,
Quote from: Milo on October 18, 2020, 07:40:53 PM
I think it's worth giving Bryan a go LW and Lookman RW as has been discussed.
Definitely this!!
Especially against Palace.
Same team except leave out Cav, move Lookman to the right wing and Joe on the left.
Cav's training.....
Lesson 1 will involve; "Not giving the ball away".
.....let's not think past that at this stage.......
Everyone who's started on the right thus far has been ineffective, but how many anonymous games is Cavaleiro able to have before he's dropped? There were large runs of games where he made little-to-no impact last season as well.
Quote from: Baston White on October 19, 2020, 02:33:16 PM
Quote from: Milo on October 18, 2020, 07:40:53 PM
I think it's worth giving Bryan a go LW and Lookman RW as has been discussed.
Definitely this!!
Especially against Palace.
Same team except leave out Cav, move Lookman to the right wing and Joe on the left.
I don't think Bryan offered much at all when played on the left wing against wolves. Maybe it adds some defensive solidity to our left flank, but I am not convinced that he will improve us going forward.
Quote from: Baston White on October 19, 2020, 02:33:16 PM
Quote from: Milo on October 18, 2020, 07:40:53 PM
I think it's worth giving Bryan a go LW and Lookman RW as has been discussed.
Definitely this!!
Especially against Palace.
Same team except leave out Cav, move Lookman to the right wing and Joe on the left.
I think he will be dropped, for Lemina who looked like a man on a mission when he came onto the pitch.
Cavaliero looks like a good player out of form and lacking confidence to me. I think he will come good in time. I agree Kebano has earned a chance.
One of my favourite FFC players, Kasami, was out of contract all summer until signing for Basel last week. I suppose playing in the Champions League was an attraction. Would have been very happy to see him back at the Cottage.
Just watched the Sheffield game again, this time with GJ and Jamie's commentary. Cav's confidence may well be low with his display plus giving the foul, when the free kick led to the penalty.
Quote from: rebel on October 19, 2020, 04:09:12 PM
Quote from: Baston White on October 19, 2020, 02:33:16 PM
Quote from: Milo on October 18, 2020, 07:40:53 PM
I think it's worth giving Bryan a go LW and Lookman RW as has been discussed.
Definitely this!!
Especially against Palace.
Same team except leave out Cav, move Lookman to the right wing and Joe on the left.
I think he will be dropped, for Lemina who looked like a man on a mission when he came onto the pitch.
Agreed he did more in 5 mins then Cavs done in his past 30 hours on the pitch
Cav does not look like a good player out of form. He looks like a BAD PLAYER. He has been useless all of 2020.Lemina did more in 5 mins than Cav has in 2020.
He does nothing, he passes badly...always behind the man, never takes players on or goes on the outside and can't cross for toffee. We play every single game with 10 men.
He tracks back slowly, virtually always fails to stop his oppo from crossing, and always fails to tackle them. And I mean always.He gave away the free kick, it was pathetic.
He is not short on confidence he is short on commitment, skill and intelligence.
Anyone of Bobby, AK, or of course the most obvious Neeskens Kebano or Lemina would be better BUT the best would be changing the system slightly and having the fluidity of thought to have an extra midfielder like Josh knitting things together. Cairney was creative, with a powerful player alongside he would create even more. Even StefJo would be tter than Cav...what is it with Parker he should have subbed him at half time it was clear he was having a shocker for a normal players and an average game for Cav.
He should be offloaded double quick, he is a liability honestly I would rather we played with 10 men.And don't start on Parker's subbing, he needs a lesson or an egg timer, he fails every game to spruce things up and get some extra energy on the field.
Other than that good team selection and the other ten all played really well.
Quote from: clarkey on October 19, 2020, 05:15:45 PM
Cav does not look like a good player out of form. He looks like a BAD PLAYER. He has been useless all of 2020.Lemina did more in 5 mins than Cav has in 2020.
He does nothing, he passes badly...always behind the man, never takes players on or goes on the outside and can't cross for toffee. We play every single game with 10 men.
He tracks back slowly, virtually always fails to stop his oppo from crossing, and always fails to tackle them. And I mean always.He gave away the free kick, it was pathetic.
He is not short on confidence he is short on commitment, skill and intelligence.
Anyone of Bobby, AK, or of course the most obvious Neeskens Kebano or Lemina would be better BUT the best would be changing the system slightly and having the fluidity of thought to have an extra midfielder like Josh knitting things together. Cairney was creative, with a powerful player alongside he would create even more. Even StefJo would be tter than Cav...what is it with Parker he should have subbed him at half time it was clear he was having a shocker for a normal players and an average game for Cav.
He should be offloaded double quick, he is a liability honestly I would rather we played with 10 men.And don't start on Parker's subbing, he needs a lesson or an egg timer, he fails every game to spruce things up and get some extra energy on the field.
Other than that good team selection and the other ten all played really well.
That's the part I can't understand, how did he not sub him off at half time, I almost couldn't believe it when he came back out onto the pitch, even that lump Knockeart would of been 5 X more effective and that's really saying something...
AND I guarantee Parker will start him again next week against Palace
Quote from: clarkey on October 19, 2020, 05:15:45 PM
Cav does not look like a good player out of form. He looks like a BAD PLAYER. He has been useless all of 2020.Lemina did more in 5 mins than Cav has in 2020.
He does nothing, he passes badly...always behind the man, never takes players on or goes on the outside and can't cross for toffee. We play every single game with 10 men.
He tracks back slowly, virtually always fails to stop his oppo from crossing, and always fails to tackle them. And I mean always.He gave away the free kick, it was pathetic.
He is not short on confidence he is short on commitment, skill and intelligence.
Anyone of Bobby, AK, or of course the most obvious Neeskens Kebano or Lemina would be better BUT the best would be changing the system slightly and having the fluidity of thought to have an extra midfielder like Josh knitting things together. Cairney was creative, with a powerful player alongside he would create even more. Even StefJo would be tter than Cav...what is it with Parker he should have subbed him at half time it was clear he was having a shocker for a normal players and an average game for Cav.
He should be offloaded double quick, he is a liability honestly I would rather we played with 10 men.And don't start on Parker's subbing, he needs a lesson or an egg timer, he fails every game to spruce things up and get some extra energy on the field.
Other than that good team selection and the other ten all played really well.
Very well said And agreed totally
I would add that surely Scott could see that Mitro was having a very day, probably because of intl duty/fatigue, and so should have subbed him early.
But the point here is Cav...
I can see why Wolves let him go once in the prem. I mean what does he do?
We let Knockaert go, who also isn't great, but puts more in than Cav does.
