Why fly into a tackle like that so high up the pitch? Crazy. This ref is not great but it was hard to defend it
Just before half time Robinson got sent off. Poor decision from the ref.
No chance of getting anything from this game now. It was very even .
Silly play by Robinson.
It looked like the contact wasn't made by his boot, it was kind of a glancing blow with his shin/knee, but when you lose control like that any contact is going to draw a red card.
Indefensible.
It was made worse by the scream of a little Chelsea girl 🙄
Had to go............ I was enjoying that first half, so pissed.
has certainly put a spanner in the works. Gutted
Idiot, absolutely no defending that. So stupid as we were starting to press better in final third.
Red all day long.
If it was the other way,we would be going crazy for a red.
Poor decision from the ref?? Are you serious?? It was a bad tackle. You can't be bias just because it's your team. Definitely a red you can't defend it
Yellow at most !
Ref couldn't wait to get the red card out, the most rapid draw you'll ever see.
Don't think any contact was made, Chelsea player faking it.
Quote from: Brightster#2 on January 16, 2021, 06:25:32 PM
Poor decision from the ref?? Are you serious?? It was a bad tackle. You can't be bias just because it's your team. Definitely a red you can't defend it
Every time...if that was the other way around we'd be livid if a red card was not given
Let down by lack of thought. Annoying or what. Much hard grafting now lads. 049:gif
092.gif
Would never have done that had Cav not missed what any schoolboy would have put away.
Silly boy. A rash red!!
I thought it was harsh. Chelsea player gets a yellow. But we are the smaller club and this is life.
Looked red to me.
Time for Bryan to shine. This isn't all over. This current team fights all the way.
Think referee should've asked to review the TV replay before making such a game changing decision. Bearing in mind we now have TV replays.
As the VAR didn't ask him to review decision.. for me, that means the VAR referee firmly believes that's a red card. When in fact, when you watch the replay it's a yellow card. One footed.. wasn't actually that high when it came to contact.. only contact made was a trailing leg.
That said Robinson is really moronic making that challenge at 45 mins after 5 mins of Fulham pressure. What's he thinking? So angry with him.
Not a good decision to attempt to make that tackle by Robinson, however It's a yellow for me, and to hear the Chelsea player scream like a baby was typical of Chelsea.
Doesn't matter now it's happened
Good that Scotty can spend some time with the other 10 & the subs to get a game plan on
We haven't drawn the last 5 games without good reason
COYW!!
Are some of you actually watching it.
He's nowhere near the ball..Red all the way.
All this nonsense about Ref's conspiracies against us is laughable...
Get a grip lads.
Did he touch him? Yellow tops.
Sent from my SM-N976B using Tapatalk
Listening to G.J. at half time and in the background is some great music.....it's not all bad !
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2021, 06:33:34 PM
Are some of you actually watching it.
He's nowhere near the ball..Red all the way.
All this nonsense about Ref's conspiracies against us is laughable...
Get a grip lads.
Well it's one footed in the end. A one footed late challenge is a yellow isn't it?
Only grey area is the fact he lunged in and had lots of time to decide to lunge like that.. hence perhaps premeditated, out of control etc.. oh I don't know..
:031: absolutely no defending that challenge....there was NO need to make it.... he just lost his head.... and now we are without him for some very important games... silly, silly boy...
😡😡⚽️
It's a bad tackle and shouldn't have been made, and when it was you run the risk, but there are two things that really annoy me.
Firstly, if you watch it then we should have actually got a freekick immediately before for Mount pulling back Lookman - that played a big part in the ball going loose and allowing for the 50-50.
Secondly, the reason he gave an automatic red, is entirely due to Azpilicueta's simulation/actions. Ifs and buts but in an alternate reality I would put all my savings on it 'only' being a yellow without the acting, and there is no way VAR turns it into a red card.
100 times out of 100 tries that's a straight red. Every time. Dumb!
I don't think that was a red the player got up and carried on. No treatment. If he had been caught there is no way he would have been able to roll on the floor like that. Ron Harris did tackle like that every week
Definite red card, ridiculous to dive in like that right on half time when we were getting into the game.
The ironic thing IMO is that the ref should have stopped play for a foul on Lookman just before the ball broke and Robinson made his challenge. I imagine we'll appeal against the red.
Lets face it, it's a red in the current game but do people really want that to be a red in the game? Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see leg breakers or two footers etc or the dawn of a Vinnie Jones era reignited but that as a red shows to me the game has little to no physicality anymore. So much so, it puts me off wanting to watch football. What's the point if players can't have a nibble at an opponent and the ref just shows a red and VAR can't find a justification to say ref, grow a pair fella.
It was an obvious uncontrolled and dangerous tackle. Should always be a red. Has nothing to do with physicality. There is a difference in playing tough and playing dangerous, and there was nothing tough about that tackle. In my opinion.
But Giroud gets off scott free for the double elbow into Andersen's head
Quote from: Sting of the North on January 16, 2021, 07:37:28 PM
It was an obvious uncontrolled and dangerous tackle. Should always be a red. Has nothing to do with physicality. There is a difference in playing tough and playing dangerous, and there was nothing tough about that tackle. In my opinion.
Agree to disagree. If he had lunged and made contact, fair enough, but he didn't.
FWIW, I think it's a red but had it been their player, a yellow & a final warning no doubt.
Quote from: The Swan on January 16, 2021, 06:22:49 PM
Just before half time Robinson got sent off. Poor decision from the ref.
No chance of getting anything from this game now. It was very even .
Poor decision ? That was a blatant a sending off as you could see,. Ludicrous !
Immature of him but will learn from it.
Doesn't matter how much improved performances we give.
If our players make dumb decisions like Robinson today then we will get relegated. He's a good player but today he cost us the game. Put this one up with Lookmans penalty.
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on January 16, 2021, 07:08:35 PM
100 times out of 100 tries that's a straight red. Every time. Dumb!
Wrong. ?s=20
Quote from: Enfield on January 16, 2021, 06:26:16 PM
Ref couldn't wait to get the red card out, the most rapid draw you'll ever see.
Don't think any contact was made, Chelsea player faking it.
You need to look again, it was his trailing knee that caught him.
Quote from: Tempest on January 16, 2021, 06:33:57 PM
Did he touch him? Yellow tops.
Sent from my SM-N976B using Tapatalk
[/quot
Simply do not understand how some on this forum are saying that was not a red card ??? It was . As blatant a red card as you will see. if a Chelsea player made that challenge and not seen red this site would be full of utter outrage. Its a red . A ludicrous challenge , an unnecessary challenge that may have cost us a point.
Quote from: itombomb on January 16, 2021, 06:55:29 PM
It's a bad tackle and shouldn't have been made, and when it was you run the risk, but there are two things that really annoy me.
Firstly, if you watch it then we should have actually got a freekick immediately before for Mount pulling back Lookman - that played a big part in the ball going loose and allowing for the 50-50.
Secondly, the reason he gave an automatic red, is entirely due to Azpilicueta's simulation/actions. Ifs and buts but in an alternate reality I would put all my savings on it 'only' being a yellow without the acting, and there is no way VAR turns it into a red card.
I thought I was the only one who saw the foul on Lookman. They'd been bullying him all half. I think that was why Robinson flew in - frustration at no protection for Lookman from the ref.
It's there actually any contact? It looks bad but if no contact it should be a yellow
Quote from: The Swan on January 16, 2021, 06:22:49 PM
Just before half time Robinson got sent off. Poor decision from the ref.
No chance of getting anything from this game now. It was very even .
It wasn't a poor decision it was reckless on Robinson's part, absolutely no need for it
Well this result has caused me to open my first tin of beer since Christmas Day!!
Absolutely gutted, they were there for the taking, we could easily of won it, if it wasn't for the mistakes from Robinson and Areola.
When commentators refer to these as 50/50 red cards what they mean is that it will be given to the small teams and not to the big teams. Giroud smashed Andersen in the face after leading with his elbow. Not that it was enough for a red card, but it wasn't even looked at and given the yellow it merited. So sick of red cards ruining games. The game becomes boring and predictable, and I'm held hostage to the game out of loyalty for my team. I would rather be doing a lot of other things with hour I would have saved.
Quote from: alfie on January 16, 2021, 07:59:36 PM
Quote from: Enfield on January 16, 2021, 06:26:16 PM
Ref couldn't wait to get the red card out, the most rapid draw you'll ever see.
Don't think any contact was made, Chelsea player faking it.
You need to look again, it was his trailing knee that caught him.
Even if there was some contact, Azpilicueta was not hurt. The triple or quadruple roll accompanied by screams of pain made me momentarily concerned that he had been badly injured, anf I think the referee had the same reaction. Azpilicueta did the same on two other occasions in the game. Players should punished for attempting to influence the referee in this way. It would be legitimate both to send off Robinson for an "out of control" tackle while showing a yellow card to Azpilicueta for simulation (wrongly thought by many to be just diving; the word covers feigning injury too in the football laws).
Quote from: Plodder on January 16, 2021, 08:15:55 PM
Quote from: alfie on January 16, 2021, 07:59:36 PM
Quote from: Enfield on January 16, 2021, 06:26:16 PM
Ref couldn't wait to get the red card out, the most rapid draw you'll ever see.
Don't think any contact was made, Chelsea player faking it.
You need to look again, it was his trailing knee that caught him.
Even if there was some contact, Azpilicueta was not hurt. The triple or quadruple roll accompanied by screams of pain made me momentarily concerned that he had been badly injured, anf I think the referee had the same reaction. Azpilicueta did the same on two other occasions in the game. Players should punished for attempting to influence the referee in this way. It would be legitimate both to send off Robinson for an "out of control" tackle while showing a yellow card to Azpilicueta for simulation (wrongly thought by many to be just diving; the word covers feigning injury too in the football laws).
Agree with this. The refs should be much better at punishing obvious theatrics.
It was a red card under current rules, it's difficult to argue with that.
Whether or not the rules are right is a different matter.
I have a few views on this. Firstly it was Azpilicueta vocal response that caused this which happened again late on in the game as well, even Garragher commented on this, he is not a nice person. Also earlier today I watched Leeds/Brighton Trossard was 'fouled' bt Ayling (not my favourite it must be said) no where near him and he got booked. Trossard may well have injured but not by Ayling, replays clearly showed this. What is VAR for.
I thought red but Robinson is a young player and will learn. Also we have to be clever as a small club as we will never get decisions our way from Refs.
its wasnt a leg breaker it was trialing leg to unplanted leg, you see them every game yellow at most
I don't think it's biased, even my mates can't seem to make thier mind up and they all support different teams. Half say yellow, a couple say red all day and a couple say harsh red.
It was a very silly challenge for me , if azipilacueta gets up it's a yellow but he makes it look worse . No excuse Robinson to blame.
Quote from: _Putney_ on January 16, 2021, 07:55:48 PM
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on January 16, 2021, 07:08:35 PM
100 times out of 100 tries that's a straight red. Every time. Dumb!
Wrong. ?s=20
There is one distinct difference between Robinson's challenge then and today: his challenge today was with both feet off the ground whereas his challenge then was not. This makes today's lunge more likely to be looked upon as 'out of control' and earn him a red card. I'm not saying Robinson couldn't have been sent off for his tackle then (and if they had VAR, the referee might have been asked to review his decision) but it's not as evident he should go as it was today.
Quote from: Luffy86 on January 16, 2021, 08:14:14 PM
Well this result has caused me to open my first tin of beer since Christmas Day!!
Absolutely gutted, they were there for the taking, we could easily of won it, if it wasn't for the mistakes from Robinson and Areola.
and caveleirho
Quote from: Southcoastffc on January 16, 2021, 07:33:37 PM
The ironic thing IMO is that the ref should have stopped play for a foul on Lookman just before the ball broke and Robinson made his challenge. I imagine we'll appeal against the red.
absolutely
And it was Azpilicueta whose scream of agony got Lookman booked for a nothing challenge. With no crowd, vocal reaction has influenced the ref.
FWIW - my view was it was a big mistake of a challenge that gave the ref the opportunity to take out a red. Harsh decision when you look at how much contact was made, and it wasn't malicious, but it wasn't "an obvious error". Azpilicueta throwing himself into the air and screaming helped the ref make up his mind, and to be fair, it was very well done. At first viewing I thought he had caught him, but it was trailing leg that made contact when he was already on his way up.
Tad harsh but can easily see why it was a red. Absolutely ridiculous decision to dive in like that..cost us the game
to be honest I was suprised the chelsea player was able to walk let alone play the second half.
he was so badly hurt I am suprised he was able to roll about holding the leg that wasn't touched.
if robinsone deserved a red, then the chelsea man surely needed a yellow for his oscar winning performance.
Well said & give one to Mount as well for being a p*ssy.
Quote from: _Putney_ on January 16, 2021, 07:55:48 PM
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on January 16, 2021, 07:08:35 PM
100 times out of 100 tries that's a straight red. Every time. Dumb!
Wrong. ?s=20
That's a straight red for me - horrendous tackle.
Didn't think it was a red and still dont .Not even sure he made proper contact.what ever they gave azpillacueta to help him over his terrible injury could probably help cure covid as it was mircle he got back up
You can show video of other violent conduct which featured Yellow outcomes all you want.
The fact is that Robinson came in with both feet up, very late and hit nothing but blue uniform. Remove your natural Fulham bias. I suffer from it too, btw. Don't tell me that wasn't anything but a very dangerous play and ALWAYS should be assessed as a straight red. Reckless, foolish, petulant and really dangerous. No what the appeal, he will miss games.
and
the ref was awful quick with the red, I thought the better refs took a moment to think it over, he had no doubt the chelsea theatrics were real.
Ref could have thought it over for longer but it was still a red card lunge. Doesn't matter how much contact he made it was, sadly, a red.
I actually thought there was a foul on Lookman leading up to the Robinson tackle. I think we were unlucky not to get a free kick there. The player made no attempt to play the ball and just bundled into Lookman
Looking at it again, I can see why he got the red .
It looked dangerous. He should have just backed off. Needless challenge. The ball was going nowhere threatening.
Robinson gave the ref a decision to make and clearly against chelsea thats only going one way .
I think the chelsea player reaction gets him sent off . The challenge didn't make him jump 3 foot in the air. Robinson goes to block the ball rather than go through the player and he is pretty unlucky to catch him with his knee of all things .
that all said it was a daft tackle in a non threatening area of the pitch and when you go in at the speed you are always at risk. I think the most frustrating part is there will be another one like that and the next ref will give a yellow . the rule about diving in 'out of control' is clear but is it always punished to the full?
It's given the ref a descion to make and its disappointing he got a red. I'd always like to see a player stay on if he can. 11 vs 11 is always a better spectacle. Having said that thought we were amazing with 10
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on January 17, 2021, 09:59:08 AM
It's given the ref a descion to make and its disappointing he got a red. I'd always like to see a player stay on if he can. 11 vs 11 is always a better spectacle. Having said that thought we were amazing with 10
Yes, I have always said a red card should result in ten minutes in a sin bin for the suspect player with a full post match enquiry and then heavy punishment if the player is guilty.
Definitely looked red to me. If refs don't give red cards for tackles like this one we will see some really nasty injuries. Correct decision IMO and unbelievably stupid from Robinson. He looked out of his depth today and was probably frustrated but that's no excuse.
Is it a 3 game ban or just one?
It was a red in 'today's game'. There lies the issue. 'Today's game'. Decisions that the authorities are making are spoiling the game. Robinson caused no harm to Azpilcueta. It was his trailing leg that accidentally led to the pirouette. What previously would have amounted to a yellow card is now a red. Just another example of how the game has been changed and not for the better. Football is a contact sport. The decision makers have forgotten that it seems.
Quote from: bahay18 on January 17, 2021, 09:10:07 AM
Robinson gave the ref a decision to make and clearly against chelsea thats only going one way .
I think the chelsea player reaction gets him sent off . The challenge didn't make him jump 3 foot in the air. Robinson goes to block the ball rather than go through the player and he is pretty unlucky to catch him with his knee of all things .
that all said it was a daft tackle in a non threatening area of the pitch and when you go in at the speed you are always at risk. I think the most frustrating part is there will be another one like that and the next ref will give a yellow . the rule about diving in 'out of control' is clear but is it always punished to the full?
This is spot on, the Filth player jumped as the tackle came in and the multi roll and screaming was pure play acting to ensure Robinson went. Robinson is used to the Championship where this would have been a yellow as the oppo player would not have been so good at simulating virtual death. Silly tackle and he will learn from it but it cost a point yesterday. It happens, I remember Brede being sent off I think v Sunderland for diving in, even the best do it.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 17, 2021, 10:51:54 AM
Is it a 3 game ban or just one?
its not an exact science. They look at incidents like this individually. I'm hoping we can at least get it down to a 2 game ban, if not 1 as that would mean he would just miss Man U in the league and Burnley cup game.
Quote from: FulhamStu on January 17, 2021, 11:45:33 AM
Quote from: bahay18 on January 17, 2021, 09:10:07 AM
Robinson gave the ref a decision to make and clearly against chelsea thats only going one way .
I think the chelsea player reaction gets him sent off . The challenge didn't make him jump 3 foot in the air. Robinson goes to block the ball rather than go through the player and he is pretty unlucky to catch him with his knee of all things .
that all said it was a daft tackle in a non threatening area of the pitch and when you go in at the speed you are always at risk. I think the most frustrating part is there will be another one like that and the next ref will give a yellow . the rule about diving in 'out of control' is clear but is it always punished to the full?
This is spot on, the Filth player jumped as the tackle came in and the multi roll and screaming was pure play acting to ensure Robinson went. Robinson is used to the Championship where this would have been a yellow as the oppo player would not have been so good at simulating virtual death. Silly tackle and he will learn from it but it cost a point yesterday. It happens, I remember Brede being sent off I think v Sunderland for diving in, even the best do it.
0001.jpeg
Robinson went into the tackle spontaneously flying in, committed, attempting to get the ball, but the ball had gone by the time he connected with the Chelsea player.
That's the problem with those type of tackles these days, and they always look worse than they are, and this definitely did, with the Chelsea player's rection also making it seem much worse than it was - his studs weren't up, land noone was hurt. Was contact with the player even made?
The ref should at least reviewed it, since the technology is now there.
I can see why a red was given, especially these days, but I find it hard to blame Robinson, though he obviously, unusually for him, mistimed the tackle, but it showed his commitment to the cause.
By the way, I think BDR's harsh yellow was similar, because although he won the ball, with what was a very good tackle, he went running in and launched himself from distance.
But it was a very good tackle, and it being penalised was disgusting, and shows the typical lack of experience of actually playing the game, of modern Prem refs.
Not to mention bias in favour of 'big' clubs!
When Fulham play Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, etc, we are playing against 12 men. This is the garbage the EPL serve up as sauce for the folks who are isolated at home while they cheat and dive and are rewarded while the commentators cover up the corruption of today's Premier League.
I'm surprised some so-called Fulham fans are quick to defend a bad referee.
Initial reaction was "WFT? red?!?", then I watched the replay, all player no ball, no contact would not make a body turn in the air like that, 100% red.
check 1:30, clear contact, 100% red
The ref definitely thinks about it for a few seconds. He knows its borderline, but more red than yellow. What goes through their mind is " what's this gonna cost me? " If he's got a big club management team to deal with, I reckon he goes yellow. But Fulham? He's nothing to lose.
Quote from: andyk on January 17, 2021, 01:38:25 PM
The ref definitely thinks about it for a few seconds. He knows its borderline, but more red than yellow. What goes through their mind is " what's this gonna cost me? " If he's got a big club management team to deal with, I reckon he goes yellow. But Fulham? He's nothing to lose.
it was backed up by var though. you could clearly see him wait before insisting that robinson leaves the pitch and you can see him talking on the head set. so that being said, var would have probably made him look at the screen if he only gave a yellow
Quote from: andyk on January 17, 2021, 01:38:25 PM
The ref definitely thinks about it for a few seconds. He knows its borderline, but more red than yellow. What goes through their mind is " what's this gonna cost me? " If he's got a big club management team to deal with, I reckon he goes yellow. But Fulham? He's nothing to lose.
I think that's the old mentality. I think the new mentality is, if I give the more extreme 50/50 (if that's how you saw it) he gets to definitely review his decision. So yesterday there was a penalty given to WBA and I think the players tackle was outside the box, you could see the ref stall, then think, then give the penalty. If he gives a FK, potentially VAR won't review (they should but its VAR so who knows what they definitely decide to check) but if it's a penalty, it *should* get checked more frequently. So for the sending off here, he might of given a yellow and VAR might say 'go take a look' but its more likely they won't compared to giving a red and telling him to check.
Lastly, the absolute cop out and to me, shows a level of corruption, is the definition of 'a clear, open and obvious error' rule. What that really means is, if its contentious, who does it impact? Big club, don't worry about it, we'll hide behind this definition to appease clubs and large fan bases. if its Fulham, well, it wasn't clear and obvious was it?......You might think thats tin foil hat, and it is to some extent, but I'm struggling to see how a simple use of revisionist software can be used so bloody badly in whats considered the best league in the world. Either the clowns who make the rules need getting rid of, or the failed ref's who use the software need stripping away for proper video analysts. And the refs unions can do one as well. From their continuous statements about refs and control, you'd think they directly wanted to influence matches to their hearts content each week......
I think the bias still applies
If he gives a yellow to a big club and they say "review", it still lands on him. He's also got the big club management team glaring at him a few yards away and despite the rules they are definitely in his ear.
It's not intentional or some conspiracy, it's just human nature. The borderline decision goes the way of the big club, because the ref knows he will get more hassle from those decisions We just have to live with that, coz I can't see it changing.
Quote from: andyk on January 17, 2021, 01:51:45 PM
I think the bias still applies
If he gives a yellow to a big club and they say "review", it still lands on him. He's also got the big club management team glaring at him a few yards away and despite the rules they are definitely in his ear.
It's not intentional or some conspiracy, it's just human nature. The borderline decision goes the way of the big club, because the ref knows he will get more hassle from those decisions We just have to live with that, coz I can't see it changing.
I did acknowledge that to be fair in my post. They just hide behind the 'clear and obvious error' rule to escape out and out criticism from small clubs.
Went for the ball but unfortunately it was gone.Looked much worse than it was imo.poo ball from lookman didn't help.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 17, 2021, 02:04:11 PM
Went for the ball but unfortunately it was gone.Looked much worse than it was imo.poo ball from lookman didn't help.
Lookman was being manhandled by Mount .
Which was a definite foul.
Quote from: ffcne on January 17, 2021, 03:22:51 PM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 17, 2021, 02:04:11 PM
Went for the ball but unfortunately it was gone.Looked much worse than it was imo.poo ball from lookman didn't help.
Lookman was being manhandled by Mount .
Which was a definite foul.
Of course this doesn't get a mention by any of the media pundits, but if you look at the highlights Mount who was nowhere near the ball physically dragged the Fulham player back so the Chelsea player could get the ball, clear foul. The tackle of Robinson was not that bad and the only connection with Zap was on the follow through, he had jumped in the air so the tackle spun him round, had he had a foot on the ground it would have knocked him over but wouldn't have looked so bad. Zap being the professional he is let out a loud cry and rolled around holding his leg even though that was not touched, by the way when I say professional I really mean something else, a bit like when Rashford did the same thing to Frank a couple of years ago at Old Trafford. However, Robinson gave the Ref a chance to issue a red and he did.
This is the Bobby Reid tackle that I thought was not a yellow card. More importantly as shown in this tweet by Bryan Stamey the ref watches Giroud push Reed over and completely disregards it. The ref points to the incident but never addresses it.
For me that is red card as Giroud pushes Reed with hands to head. But that would never happen because of the double standard in the league :031:
Quote from: love4ffc on January 17, 2021, 05:06:26 PM
This is the Bobby Reid tackle that I thought was not a yellow card. More importantly as shown in this tweet by Bryan Stamey the ref watches Giroud push Reed over and completely disregards it. The ref points to the incident but never addresses it.
For me that is red card as Giroud pushes Reed with hands to head. But that would never happen because of the double standard in the league :031:
I think this says it all about this ref, a red and yellow card to Fulham players but two off the ball incidents by Chelsea go unpunished
It is quite extraordinary to me that contributors to this thread can be certain that what they saw as a red card offence could be considered by others as not a red card, and vice versa. To add credence to my argument that neither side can claim superiority I would say that had you been asked beforehand what the punishment would be for Robinson's coming challenge on Azpilicueta many of you would have guessed wrong especially if you were going to see the whole thing live in three dimensions and not on a TV with very mixed and marginal levels of quality. I never listen to commentary or punditry because it does interfere with the effectiveness of your other senses. I also believe there are many other variables acting on each and every outcome which defy easy definition.
That is the reason why watching in two dimensions has to done with care and caution because we don't see what the referee and others at the game see, and is my condemnation of VAR as anything other than a tool for watching offside margins and balls crossing goal lines between the posts. Even most handballs are not very clearly or cleverly seen in two dimensions.
In the broadcasted event Robinson seems marginally late to the ball but not aiming his tackle at his opponent but at the ball. Both players have momentum that causes the clash between them, with Robinson unable to do anything other than slow down as fast as he can, and Azpilicueta to move his legs and body out of the way as fast as he can which he is already in the act of doing when Robinson's lower leg catches him very slightly and accentuates his lift and roll. It looks much worse than it actually is but, at the end of the day, referee Peter Bankes make his decision quickly. Whether it was right or wrong seems immaterial now but Bankes has hardly excelled himself at refereeing lower levels of football and probably would not be in the upper realms were it not for the current dearth of decent officials. But he was in charge and he decided as he did. He cannot help his mediocrity if that is what he suffers from. Would another referee have called it the same way? Who knows other than to say there is no certainty involved in any of this?
My own call was one of acceptance that it would be a red card because it has been that way all season.
I think that inthis day and age it was always looking like a red but Azpilacueta had to roll over and over around 4 times. It shows he was putting it on as, in my opinion, if you are taken out you don't naturally roll over and over like that.
Whatever we think about refs and their management of games, this kind of action by any player gives the ref a very strong opportunity to show a red card and in todays game it's very likely any ref would do so.
I think the main reason im annoyed by the decision is the consistency factor . We all know that some point this season a fulham player will get absolutely clattered and it will be a yellow .
You see these reckless/out of control challenges all the time .Cavani in the carabao at everton .he Sent richarlison flying , fella got up spitting blood and genuinely had to be helped from the pitch and subbed as he was so dazed (not like the chelsea guy at the weekend) and its not even a yellow card . funnily enough , same game he grabbed the everton centre half by the throat and threw him to the ground , not a yellow for that either
Billy sharp last week agains newcastle , lands on the guys Achilles from behind with a lunge and its yellow , kamara was red .
