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Title: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Maidstone Lee on January 17, 2021, 11:34:36 AM
Looks like we'll be forced into a few changes with Robinson and Reid both suspended. No word as yet on Lemina or Mitro but I suspect Parker would favour Cavaleiro over Mitro anyway. RLC will likely come straight back in. Back 5 pretty much picks itself nowadays.

                    Areola

       Aina Andersen Adarabioyo

Tete                                     Bryan
               Anguissa Reed

         RLC                   Lookman

                  Cavaleiro
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: fulhamben on January 17, 2021, 11:40:10 AM
I think that's what he will go with. At the very least I would swap cav out for ak. Or call up one of the kids. Just want to see one striker start a game for a change.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on January 17, 2021, 11:53:09 AM
Id like to see lookman up top and either kebano or cav on the wing .Failing that just start ak up front and let the madness commence
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: hovewhite on January 17, 2021, 12:14:18 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 17, 2021, 11:34:36 AM
Looks like we'll be forced into a few changes with Robinson and Reid both suspended. No word as yet on Lemina or Mitro but I suspect Parker would favour Cavaleiro over Mitro anyway. RLC will likely come straight back in. Back 5 pretty much picks itself nowadays.

                    Areola

       Aina Andersen Adarabioyo

Tete                                     Bryan
               Anguissa Reed

         RLC                   Lookman

                  Cavaleiro
would put kebano for cav in that ine up
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: FFC1987 on January 17, 2021, 12:19:12 PM
Pending injuries, I assum eit'll be the same but Bryan for Robinson and TLC in for Reid.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: St Eve on January 17, 2021, 01:04:00 PM
We need to start winning and to do that we need to score. Therefore Mitro has to play
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: roberto w6 on January 17, 2021, 01:12:29 PM
From Maidstone Lee's team I'd have Kamara in for RLC but with Cav on the right and Kamara in the middle.
Cav is not a finisher but his running around disturbs defences. Kamara can mix it which Man U won't like.
If one of their defenders has the measure of any of the 3 in this formation then they can swap around. I like the idea of the front 3 (ideally BDR, Cav and Lookman for me  until we get a new signing) playing in the style they do but constantly rotating to cause confusion in the opposition. Not a new idea - Ajax won 3 European Cups doing it in the 1970s, although admittedly the quality of their talent pool was amongst the best in history so any formation would probably have worked...
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Twig on January 17, 2021, 01:20:02 PM
I don't think AK is very effective as a starter, never really has been. I'd try Kebano as the CF and move Cav out wide. RLC on the bench. If after half an hour or so it isn't working then swop Cav and Kebano around. It has some flexibility. If neither Kebano nor Cav look effective through the middle we can either try moving Lookman inside or bring on RLC.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Andyb on January 17, 2021, 01:47:53 PM
Quote from: Twig on January 17, 2021, 01:20:02 PM
I don't think AK is very effective as a starter, never really has been. I'd try Kebano as the CF and move Cav out wide. RLC on the bench. If after half an hour or so it isn't working then swop Cav and Kebano around. It has some flexibility. If neither Kebano nor Cav look effective through the middle we can either try moving Lookman inside or bring on RLC.

Like idea kebano up front, knows how to finish
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on January 17, 2021, 01:54:02 PM
I would play Ruben and Kebano before Kamara, they are both footballers, whereas AK is a brainless loose cannon who is unreliable.
So would you risk Fulhams future on a brainless unreliable loose cannon over and above Kebano and Ruben, I doubt it.
AK coming on with half hour to go for a particular reason, I can understand that, but his record in the 100 yards sprint will not save Fulham if he starts matches when there are better alternatives.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Bill2 on January 17, 2021, 04:14:27 PM
Interesting to see how many subs SP puts out.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: fulhamben on January 17, 2021, 04:21:11 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 17, 2021, 01:54:02 PM
I would play Ruben and Kebano before Kamara, they are both footballers, whereas AK is a brainless loose cannon who is unreliable.
So would you risk Fulhams future on a brainless unreliable loose cannon over and above Kebano and Ruben, I doubt it.
AK coming on with half hour to go for a particular reason, I can understand that, but his record in the 100 yards sprint will not save Fulham if he starts matches when there are better alternatives.
so it has be kebano then doesn't it. As both Rubens and cav have been tried as the central man and both have failed badly. I'd call up tiehi Carvalho and jasper. Don't see how they could be any worse.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Asotosyios on January 17, 2021, 10:07:22 PM
Unless Parker is preparing a huge surprise, we all know that the first 11 will be the team posted by the OP - perhaps with Lemina in place of Reed if he's available.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: LC on January 17, 2021, 11:43:42 PM
If Mitrovic was on the end of the Cav chance on the weekend he would have scored regardless of form.
We need to play him ahead of Cav. If he's not fit, I think you need to play someone else up top- probably BDR.

I would go with this Lookman up top with Kebano on the wing against United as I know BDR is out.

On a plus note, RLC, BDR, Robinson, Lemina, Cairney & Mitrovic should all be relatively fresh for the big games ahead 

                   
                 
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Denzil Dexter on January 17, 2021, 11:56:55 PM
Quote from: Andyb on January 17, 2021, 01:47:53 PM
Quote from: Twig on January 17, 2021, 01:20:02 PM
I don't think AK is very effective as a starter, never really has been. I'd try Kebano as the CF and move Cav out wide. RLC on the bench. If after half an hour or so it isn't working then swop Cav and Kebano around. It has some flexibility. If neither Kebano nor Cav look effective through the middle we can either try moving Lookman inside or bring on RLC.

Like idea kebano up front, knows how to finish

I agree.  He is our our best bet and knows how to hit the back of the net. It seems a few have forgotten.  Probably bring on AK to confuse everyone (including himself) with 20 to go and he'll put on a masterclass and score a couple of Maradonaesque worldies and get us the 3 points.  Then i'll wake up.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Milo on January 18, 2021, 05:02:43 AM
Think it'll be as per OP.

Think it'll be a similar story ie very good up to the wings and then Bryan and Tete putting in crosses to no striker.

Mitrovic would change that but where's his head? Does he still want to play? Parker's press conferences seemed guarded suggesting not.
If Mitrovic did play we would counter attack less quickly but he should thrive off Tete/Bryan crosses.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on January 18, 2021, 06:26:23 AM
Quote from: LC on January 17, 2021, 11:43:42 PM
If Mitrovic was on the end of the Cav chance on the weekend he would have scored regardless of form.
We need to play him ahead of Cav. If he's not fit, I think you need to play someone else up top- probably BDR.

I would go with this Lookman up top with Kebano on the wing against United as I know BDR is out.

On a plus note, RLC, BDR, Robinson, Lemina, Cairney & Mitrovic should all be relatively fresh for the big games ahead 

Mitro wouldn't have been able to keep up wiith the pace of the counter attack .I think thats the problem and with his form this season when he played I wouldn't be so sure he would score it

                   
                 
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on January 18, 2021, 10:23:26 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on January 17, 2021, 04:21:11 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 17, 2021, 01:54:02 PM
I would play Ruben and Kebano before Kamara, they are both footballers, whereas AK is a brainless loose cannon who is unreliable.
So would you risk Fulhams future on a brainless unreliable loose cannon over and above Kebano and Ruben, I doubt it.
AK coming on with half hour to go for a particular reason, I can understand that, but his record in the 100 yards sprint will not save Fulham if he starts matches when there are better alternatives.
so it has be kebano then doesn't it. As both Rubens and cav have been tried as the central man and both have failed badly. I'd call up tiehi Carvalho and jasper. Don't see how they could be any worse.

I agree, I don't think they can do any worse and under the circumstances it is definitely worth a try. Because it appears we are not resolving this baron run of a lack of goals using the same faces.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: filham on January 18, 2021, 12:41:24 PM
Quote from: St Eve on January 17, 2021, 01:04:00 PM
We need to start winning and to do that we need to score. Therefore Mitro has to play
Fully agree but only if Mitro is fully fit.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: General on January 18, 2021, 01:29:55 PM
Quote from: Finnans Right Peg on January 17, 2021, 11:53:09 AM
Id like to see lookman up top and either kebano or cav on the wing .Failing that just start ak up front and let the madness commence

Agree with this... Cav isn't making the most of the gluttony of chances he's being handed on a plate... how he missed the one Tete gave him is criminal at this level. Lookman,or even Mitro - in fact particularly mitro - would've scored that opportunity.

I really think we should be putting mitro in the team and up front. He set up one against QPR in the only game he's started in a while, which shows he's still got some sharpness - seems such a stubborn idea to not use him, he's clearly our most clinical striker.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: fulhamben on January 18, 2021, 01:45:57 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 18, 2021, 10:23:26 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on January 17, 2021, 04:21:11 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 17, 2021, 01:54:02 PM
I would play Ruben and Kebano before Kamara, they are both footballers, whereas AK is a brainless loose cannon who is unreliable.
So would you risk Fulhams future on a brainless unreliable loose cannon over and above Kebano and Ruben, I doubt it.
AK coming on with half hour to go for a particular reason, I can understand that, but his record in the 100 yards sprint will not save Fulham if he starts matches when there are better alternatives.
so it has be kebano then doesn't it. As both Rubens and cav have been tried as the central man and both have failed badly. I'd call up tiehi Carvalho and jasper. Don't see how they could be any worse.

I agree, I don't think they can do any worse and under the circumstances it is definitely worth a try. Because it appears we are not resolving this baron run of a lack of goals using the same faces.
jasper and Carvalho scored for the 23s away to palace today aswell
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: FulhamStu on January 18, 2021, 02:54:02 PM
Mitro can't have been fit on Saturday or would have at least been on the bench.  If fit, Mitro should play.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: ex-Pat on January 18, 2021, 04:03:17 PM
Quote from: St Eve on January 17, 2021, 01:04:00 PM
We need to start winning and to do that we need to score. Therefore Mitro has to play

      No Chance.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Jim© on January 18, 2021, 05:14:29 PM
I'd be tempted to give Neeskens a go. He played up front in a friendly a couple of years back and looked really dangerous there. Or AK, as he doesn't know what he's doing next, let alone the CBs marking him being able to read him! (I'm a fan of his by the way).

I just think that miss on Saturday was really poor from Cav and could have cost us the game as we'd come into it and Robinson was sent off after that moment.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Moltobueno on January 18, 2021, 10:01:46 PM
What's the situation with Lemina? Zambo have looked tired in the last games
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: love4ffc on January 19, 2021, 02:45:53 AM
I thought but could be wrong, that Lemina was still waiting to get a negative test or finish his isolation.  He could be available though on Wednesday so think it's a wait and find out thing. 

I doubt Mitro will be fit.  I'm hoping that Tom will be fit but question his fitness and ability to play 90 minutes.  I like the idea of Lookman up front but wonder if he is the kind of player who needs space and time to make things happen.  Hence why he has been so effective playing the wing.  Pretty much like Bobby on the other side. 

Kebano apparently injured so there goes that option.  AK, I'm losing faith in, sorry to all those who believe he will come true, but I just don't think he is the answer. 

So, with everything considered I agree with the OP that this will be the team put out.  If Lemina can play, then he could be a sub for Reed.  Dropping Reed, I think would be harsh as he has been great in the last couple of games.  If Tom is healthy then I would like to see him be the sub for RLC.  Personnally think he was great before being dropped. 

                         Areola

       Aina      Andersen       Adarabioyo

Tete                                            Bryan
               Anguissa       Reed

              RLC                   Lookman

                       Cavaleiro
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: alfie on January 19, 2021, 09:08:15 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on January 17, 2021, 11:40:10 AM
I think that's what he will go with. At the very least I would swap cav out for ak. Or call up one of the kids. Just want to see one striker start a game for a change.
If I was going to swap Cav out it would be for Kebano not AK
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:10:33 AM
Quote from: alfie on January 19, 2021, 09:08:15 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on January 17, 2021, 11:40:10 AM
I think that's what he will go with. At the very least I would swap cav out for ak. Or call up one of the kids. Just want to see one striker start a game for a change.
If I was going to swap Cav out it would be for Kebano not AK

and that's your choice. I'd prefer an actual striker on the pitch for once though.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: twang on January 19, 2021, 09:18:01 AM
Areola
Tete - Aina - Andersen - Tosin - Bryan
Anguissa - Reed
Kamara - Loftus-Cheek - Lookman
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: alfie on January 19, 2021, 09:18:32 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:10:33 AM
Quote from: alfie on January 19, 2021, 09:08:15 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on January 17, 2021, 11:40:10 AM
I think that's what he will go with. At the very least I would swap cav out for ak. Or call up one of the kids. Just want to see one striker start a game for a change.
If I was going to swap Cav out it would be for Kebano not AK

and that's your choice. I'd prefer an actual striker on the pitch for once though.
Fair point, is all about opinions.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Brawn on January 19, 2021, 01:27:08 PM
My XI is a very flexible formation but I'll give it as the 3-4-3 for now:

GK 1 A Areola

RCB 34 O Aina
CB 5 J Andersen
LCB 16 T Adarabioyo

RWB 2 K Tete
RCDM 21 H Reed
LCDM 29 A Anguissa
LWB 23 J Bryan

RAM 10 T Cairney
ST 9 A Mitrovic
LAM 19 A Lookman

If Cairney injured still, then play Lookman there and bring in Cav. That formation allows for a 4-4-1-1 flip or a 5-2-2-1.

Subs: Rodak, Hector, Ream, Lemina, Loftus-Cheek, Kebano, Cavaleiro, Onomah, Kamara
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Milo on January 19, 2021, 01:51:19 PM
Instagram quotes Parker that Mitro had an injury against QPR and is fit for Man United.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: PaulJ123 on January 19, 2021, 01:55:56 PM
Mitro has to play if he's fit. Think he can bully Lindelof/Bailly

I'd go:

Areola
Tete Aina Joa Tosin Bryan
Zambo Lemina (Reed if Lemina not available)
RLC
Mitro Lookman
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Southcoastffc on January 19, 2021, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on January 19, 2021, 01:59:09 PM
Storm Christophe is likely to be pretty evident in SW6 tomorrow evening. Let's hope it helps us more than them (and that the new stand hasn't any loose fixings.)
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Mullers OG on January 19, 2021, 05:18:11 PM
I am assuming Cairney isn't fit, that Mitrovic and Lebano are.

                   Areola

   Aina. Anderson. Adarabyio

Tete.                               Bryan

        Reed.      Anguish's

LC.           Mitro.           Lookman

Bench:- Rodak Lemina Kebano Odoi Hector Cavaleiro Onomah Ream Jasper
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Arthur on January 19, 2021, 07:35:57 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on January 19, 2021, 02:45:53 AM
                         Areola

       Aina      Andersen       Adarabioyo

Tete                                            Bryan
               Anguissa       Reed

              RLC                   Lookman

                       Cavaleiro


This is tomorrow's starting XI so I have been informed (by someone who invariably seems to know).
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: St Eve on January 19, 2021, 07:57:44 PM
Quote from: ex-Pat on January 18, 2021, 04:03:17 PM
Quote from: St Eve on January 17, 2021, 01:04:00 PM
We need to start winning and to do that we need to score. Therefore Mitro has to play

      No Chance.
I think he is fit to play so he should
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:21:59 PM
Quote from: St Eve on January 19, 2021, 07:57:44 PM
Quote from: ex-Pat on January 18, 2021, 04:03:17 PM
Quote from: St Eve on January 17, 2021, 01:04:00 PM
We need to start winning and to do that we need to score. Therefore Mitro has to play

      No Chance.
I think he is fit to play so he should
yes it was announced earlier that only kongolo and cairney have knocks. Everyone else is fit.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: Arthur on January 19, 2021, 07:35:57 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on January 19, 2021, 02:45:53 AM
                         Areola

       Aina      Andersen       Adarabioyo

Tete                                            Bryan
               Anguissa       Reed

              RLC                   Lookman

                       Cavaleiro


This is tomorrow's starting XI so I have been informed (by someone who invariably seems to know).
predicable, but soo disappointing if it is.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Milo on January 19, 2021, 09:51:19 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: Arthur on January 19, 2021, 07:35:57 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on January 19, 2021, 02:45:53 AM
                         Areola

       Aina      Andersen       Adarabioyo

Tete                                            Bryan
               Anguissa       Reed

              RLC                   Lookman

                       Cavaleiro


This is tomorrow's starting XI so I have been informed (by someone who invariably seems to know).
predicable, but soo disappointing if it is.

Well.. it's been effective against the top teams so far recently. I think we should give it 70 minutes then throw on Mitrovic for Cav.

Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: scotto2000 on January 20, 2021, 11:56:27 AM
Quote from: Milo on January 19, 2021, 09:51:19 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: Arthur on January 19, 2021, 07:35:57 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on January 19, 2021, 02:45:53 AM
                         Areola

       Aina      Andersen       Adarabioyo

Tete                                            Bryan
               Anguissa       Reed

              RLC                   Lookman

                       Cavaleiro


This is tomorrow's starting XI so I have been informed (by someone who invariably seems to know).
predicable, but soo disappointing if it is.

Well.. it's been effective against the top teams so far recently. I think we should give it 70 minutes then throw on Mitrovic for Cav.


Agree. Also Lemina if  anyone in the midfield is tiring. Last 10 mins maybe AK for RLC , a final roll of the dice.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: Milo on January 20, 2021, 12:01:22 PM
I actually would not be surprised to see Lemina come on at 70 mins and nothing change upfront until 80 mins.

However, I feel that because we have Bryan and Tete on the pitch that Mitrovic would be more effective as getting better service and hence should come on earlier if things aren't going to plan.
Title: Re: Team vs Man Utd?
Post by: toshes mate on January 20, 2021, 12:14:55 PM
Quote from: roberto w6 on January 17, 2021, 01:12:29 PM
From Maidstone Lee's team I'd have Kamara in for RLC but with Cav on the right and Kamara in the middle.
Cav is not a finisher but his running around disturbs defences. Kamara can mix it which Man U won't like.
If one of their defenders has the measure of any of the 3 in this formation then they can swap around. I like the idea of the front 3 (ideally BDR, Cav and Lookman for me  until we get a new signing) playing in the style they do but constantly rotating to cause confusion in the opposition. Not a new idea - Ajax won 3 European Cups doing it in the 1970s, although admittedly the quality of their talent pool was amongst the best in history so any formation would probably have worked...
I'd go with this assuming that Mitro is not fit to play for whatever reason.