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Title: RLC...
Post by: RufusBrevettatemyhamster on February 05, 2021, 11:35:49 AM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/12208645/ruben-loftus-cheek-fulham-midfielder-rediscovering-his-best-form-following-loan-move-from-chelsea

Anyone seen it yet?
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: Arthur on February 05, 2021, 11:49:25 AM
Saw it earlier. Didn't bother to link it because I thought it would just lead to a re-run of the highly critical 'Loftus Cheek' thread from the night before last. (But please don't take this to imply I'm criticising you, Rufus, for alerting the forum to it - I'm not. I always knew someone would signpost it eventually.)

I suppose the one difference this time is his comments do lend themselves to ironic humour. Let's see what type of response it draws.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: filham on February 05, 2021, 12:23:19 PM
Well if RLC himself thinks he is back to form then I guess that may tip the balance of opinion in his favour. I am disappointed as I was still hoping there was better to come but after 16 or so games I suppose what we are seeing is what we are going to get for the rest of the season.
I note however that he does hold out the promise of a goal'be great if that could come against Wet Spam.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: Whitesideup on February 05, 2021, 12:29:12 PM
Well Rufusbrevettatemyhamster - your comment was a different take on the Rlc debate and it made me chuckle, and so thanks for the post!
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on February 05, 2021, 12:48:07 PM
He's not going to say hes playing crap is he?

But he's this seasons Schurlle , big reputation but not performing anywhere near the standard we need him to.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: RufusBrevettatemyhamster on February 05, 2021, 02:03:13 PM
My point being, when he's on form he is a good, good player. We've yet to see his best. I hope he does come good because him in the middle of the park, should help tip the balance of results our way.
I like him, if I had a choice, I'd want him on a permanent, so please do t think im here to slag him off. I'm just asking if anyone has actually seen the form he mentioned.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: perry geyton on February 05, 2021, 03:20:03 PM
After the previous Leicester performance I'd say he's actually getting worse
Either way he'll bugger off Back to Chelsea come the end of the season
He quite simply doesn't care about Fulham
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: ALG01 on February 05, 2021, 03:24:45 PM
brillaint PR

Black is white apparently.

If that was his best form then he would not have made the england team.

To be honest, and that is what I always am, if you had never heard of him and just watched the games he played for us you would wonder what he is doing in our squad let alone first team.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: perry geyton on February 05, 2021, 03:27:01 PM
TRUTH !!!

His agent probably co wrote that article
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: WindyCity on February 05, 2021, 03:56:39 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on February 05, 2021, 12:48:07 PM
He's not going to say hes playing crap is he?
But he's this seasons Schurlle , big reputation but not performing anywhere near the standard we need him to.

This
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: Twig on February 05, 2021, 05:33:26 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on February 05, 2021, 03:56:39 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on February 05, 2021, 12:48:07 PM
He's not going to say hes playing crap is he?
But he's this seasons Schurlle , big reputation but not performing anywhere near the standard we need him to.

This

Agreed
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: Bill2 on February 06, 2021, 12:12:08 PM
I have said this on a number of occasions and will repeat it again. When he is on the ball and taking it forward he is back to his best, quick and strong. But, and there is always a but, off the ball I am not sure what he is doing, he is weak in the challenge, won't challenge for the ball in the air against anyone which bearing in mind he is 6ft plus plus is a crying shame. So unless on the ball he is sometimes a passenger.
I won't say I have followed his career but first saw him in the U18s v Fulham in the cup final and he was excellent, always liked him in an England shirt. But after his bad injury he has not come back to his previous form I hope he does as although for us it may be too late.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: H4usuallysitting on February 06, 2021, 03:07:51 PM
At the moment he's a luxury we can't afford....not enough effort, bit of a passenger
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: WindyCity on February 06, 2021, 04:15:39 PM
Quote from: Bill2 on February 06, 2021, 12:12:08 PM
I have said this on a number of occasions and will repeat it again. When he is on the ball and taking it forward he is back to his best, quick and strong. But, and there is always a but, off the ball I am not sure what he is doing, he is weak in the challenge, won't challenge for the ball in the air against anyone which bearing in mind he is 6ft plus plus is a crying shame. So unless on the ball he is sometimes a passenger.
I won't say I have followed his career but first saw him in the U18s v Fulham in the cup final and he was excellent, always liked him in an England shirt. But after his bad injury he has not come back to his previous form I hope he does as although for us it may be too late.

You say when he is one the ball taking it forward he is at his best.  That's fine.  BUT, I would also add from what we've seen so far this season it's what he ends up doing with that ball.  His final touch has been very poor.  That final touch/pass/shot/decision has been dreadful.  I think FFC is better off with him on the bench and eventually off the club when that time comes.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: perry geyton on February 06, 2021, 04:25:08 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on February 06, 2021, 04:15:39 PM
Quote from: Bill2 on February 06, 2021, 12:12:08 PM
I have said this on a number of occasions and will repeat it again. When he is on the ball and taking it forward he is back to his best, quick and strong. But, and there is always a but, off the ball I am not sure what he is doing, he is weak in the challenge, won't challenge for the ball in the air against anyone which bearing in mind he is 6ft plus plus is a crying shame. So unless on the ball he is sometimes a passenger.
I won't say I have followed his career but first saw him in the U18s v Fulham in the cup final and he was excellent, always liked him in an England shirt. But after his bad injury he has not come back to his previous form I hope he does as although for us it may be too late.

You say when he is one the ball taking it forward he is at his best.  That's fine.  BUT, I would also add from what we've seen so far this season it's what he ends up doing with that ball.  His final touch has been very poor.  That final touch/pass/shot/decision has been dreadful.  I think FFC is better off with him on the bench and eventually off the club when that time comes.

Yeah he generally runs with the ball into a dead end street and ends up losing the ball to an opponent

IF HE STARTS TODAY "which he probably will" HE BETTER SHOW UP

I'll say it again TC is 10 times the player
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: Only Me on February 06, 2021, 06:40:09 PM
Just missed an easy chance
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: jayffc on February 06, 2021, 06:46:07 PM
Think hes played reasonably well this game in fairness
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: Deeping_white on February 06, 2021, 06:46:37 PM
Might have to report a case of fraud to the Met Police because he's stealing a living on £120k a week, couldn't hit the broad side of a barn door ffs
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: fulhamtom on February 06, 2021, 06:50:06 PM
I am really really not a fan of RLC but today so far is his best game for us!!!!!
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: fulhamfan on February 06, 2021, 07:17:29 PM
He cannot hit the target though
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: Deeping_white on February 06, 2021, 07:18:10 PM
Quote from: fulhamtom on February 06, 2021, 06:50:06 PM
I am really really not a fan of RLC but today so far is his best game for us!!!!!

And yet he's still not been better than a 6/10 which is the issue
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on February 06, 2021, 07:30:34 PM
Yeah
87th minute heads over
90th minute shoots wide
Underwhelming in spite of what Dion says
For goodness sake - send him home!!
Sorry Scotty, think times up as you can only keep finding more of "them moments"
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: Twig on February 06, 2021, 07:40:04 PM
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on February 06, 2021, 07:30:34 PM
Yeah
87th minute heads over
90th minute shoots wide
Underwhelming in spite of what Dion says
For goodness sake - send him home!!
Sorry Scotty, think times up as you can only keep finding more of "them moments"

Yep
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: Luka on February 06, 2021, 07:46:24 PM
RLC huffs and puffs but in the end delivers no end product.
Got lots of ball today, still nothing in his locker to suggest he is good at this level.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: TC's Sporran on February 06, 2021, 07:53:26 PM
like i suspected one of his better games for us.

but no end product, wasteful and nowhere near the game changer/winner we need.

ive seen enough. you can tell there is a player in there somewhere but i would be happy if he never played again.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: rusty shackleford on February 06, 2021, 07:53:52 PM
Slows evert attack to a grinding halt
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: andyk on February 06, 2021, 07:54:09 PM
He was very good today.  Took up positions in the centre of a very crowded midfield.  Found pockets of space, drove us forward .  The couple of  chances he missed were very difficult, half chances really.
If we  could buy him for the Championship, we should do it. Make him captain and try to build a Premiership side aroumd him, next year.  He'll be inundated with offers if Chelsea let him go, so probably no chance.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: Matt10 on February 06, 2021, 07:55:28 PM
He made a difference in the first half, and anchored a lot of our attacks. However, we need end product. I wouldn't go as far as to remove someone like that. That seems a bit illogical considering it's not just RLC that isn't producing results. If he was the only one, then fine, but he had a good match.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: filham on February 06, 2021, 08:33:36 PM
I thought RLC had a good game today, he is prepared to run at defenders and not easy to get off the ball. If only he had taken his goal chance he could have become MOM.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: ALG01 on February 06, 2021, 11:12:33 PM
today he achieved almost Ok but had no end product, passing in final third poor and slow, shooting, pathetic, and generally we would not miss him if he never played again. what is worse he is untouchable, parker will never drop him so he really doesn'rt have to put in the effort and it shows. but I agree, better today he achieved oridinary status.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: WindyCity on February 07, 2021, 02:23:52 PM
Credit to RLC for a "pretty good game" played v WHU.  That said, as others point out, there is still NO QUALITY on his finished product, his end result.  He just hasn't shown FFC fans that he is prem quality of a high stature, the quality player his reputation brought to CC.  Still not impressed with RLC and when his run with FFC is finally over I will be happy.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: RaySmith on February 07, 2021, 02:49:42 PM
He played reallly well, contributed to  our attacks, and created a lot of scoring  chances for himself - an another day  you'd think he'd at least one of them would go in.

I don't understand the animosity towards him.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: Twig on February 07, 2021, 02:59:33 PM
He slows it down more than TC, but unlike TC he has no end product.  He may be something of an anchor but we already have Reed and Lemina, our need is for midfielders who can chip in with goals and that doesn't seem to be RLC.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: ALG01 on February 07, 2021, 04:59:06 PM
Quote from: RaySmith on February 07, 2021, 02:49:42 PM
He played reallly well, contributed to  our attacks, and created a lot of scoring  chances for himself - an another day  you'd think he'd at least one of them would go in.

I don't understand the animosity towards him.

It is his reputation. If you didn't know he had a past then you would never have guessed how good he used to be. He plays regardless of his form, he does not contribute anything like enough.

he is here to try and reclaim his form not help the cause.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: mrmicawbers on February 07, 2021, 05:03:36 PM
Definitely an impressive step up.Needs more of an end product.So looking on the Brightside.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: HV71 on February 07, 2021, 05:32:11 PM
Quote from: Twig on February 07, 2021, 02:59:33 PM
He slows it down more than TC, but unlike TC he has no end product.  He may be something of an anchor but we already have Reed and Lemina, our need is for midfielders who can chip in with goals and that doesn't seem to be RLC.

Agree with every word of this. If we " anchor " any more then we will undoubtedly sink ! We have to be less cautious.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: davew on February 07, 2021, 06:11:52 PM
Quote from: RaySmith on February 07, 2021, 02:49:42 PM


I don't understand the animosity towards him.

I think some of it could be because he is on loan from Chelsea! Seems to try hard but no end result! Really can't see Chelsea keeping him on their books in the Summer.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: HV71 on February 07, 2021, 06:32:23 PM
To add to Dave W - I don't think it has helped that all the commentators and pundits have heralded him as our " wonder boy " the potential saviour of our season. He was l
A lot better yesterday but before that ?
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: davew on February 07, 2021, 06:45:19 PM
I didn't realise that in the last 6 seasons he has only played 92 league games (source Wikipedia) and only scored 10 goals, 10 appearnces for England and no goals, so we can hardly expect him to score a lot of goals for us!
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: Whitestone on February 07, 2021, 07:08:42 PM
Quote from: RaySmith on February 07, 2021, 02:49:42 PM
He played reallly well, contributed to  our attacks, and created a lot of scoring  chances for himself - an another day  you'd think he'd at least one of them would go in.

I don't understand the animosity towards him.


Agree with your comments regarding his performance.  On occasions the animosity has been way over the top.
Title: Re: RLC...
Post by: 70sPimlico on February 07, 2021, 07:12:20 PM
Quote from: RaySmith on February 07, 2021, 02:49:42 PM
He played reallly well, contributed to  our attacks, and created a lot of scoring  chances for himself - an another day  you'd think he'd at least one of them would go in.

I don't understand the animosity towards him.
Me neither.