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' Ruben has been a fantastic addition. I've seen someone grow immensely from the start of the season to a person and player now who has transformed. Hes grown massively and has been a massive help for us. At the moment its just about this year for Ruben, focus on the next 10 games and where he can still get better.But at the end if theres an opportunity to get it done ( to keep him perm ) id be more than happy to '
If he could score a goddamn goal I would most certainly keep him, but he isn't even a goal threat.
For the first time since he arrivedI thought he had a pretty good game tonight. He has gradually improved since he came here, and was well below par at first, but if he keeps improving at this rate he may well have a big say in whether we stay up.
I would have him over Cairney now for sure.
Quote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on March 05, 2021, 12:14:08 AM
For the first time since he arrivedI thought he had a pretty good game tonight. He has gradually improved since he came here, and was well below par at first, but if he keeps improving at this rate he may well have a big say in whether we stay up.
I would have him over Cairney now for sure.
He is a much more physical and athletic player... Cairney has more technical skill. If RLC could hit the back of the net even 3 times a season he'd be alright... but his final product is dire.
Even if he wins us 2 matches a season thatd be enough from him
I could have started a new thread but I'm just going to drop this in here:
The role that RLC is supposed to be playing – IMHO
I think I understand why Parker insist on playing RLC as the number 10. He is big and he is strong but that is where it ends. At least in my eyes.
This current team is crying out for that midfielder who is strong on the ball, can help create chances and can actually finish and lend to scoring goals. While RCL on occasion shows that he can dribble though and past several players that is where it seems to end. I have seen him several times carry the ball and take a touch to many when he could have easily passed off the ball or put it through for other Fulham players. Instead, his dribbles usually amount to either nothing or him taking a shot that amounts to nothing. Personally thought RLC went missing for large parts of tonight's match.
While I heard a great line on a pod tonight that Harrison Reed has become Sidwell 2.0, which I agree with, RCL just hasn't become that Danny Murphy 2.0 that is desperately needed. Now, I'm hearing from a couple of places that Parker wants to keep him and make him a permanent. That just leaves me speechless.
Again, I understand that Parker thinks that RLC as a number 10is the key to unlocking the midfield for Fulham but I just don't see it.
The only thing he does is win free kicks.
Once he gets in to the final third he forgets how to strike a ball.
Not only can´t hit a barn door, he can´t even hit the barn.
About as good an acquisition as Knocks and at least as expensive. It's a no from me.
Agree with all of the above but RLC is the best we have for that role just now, It will be interesting to see what happens when Cairney is fit as RLC's role would seem to be to only one open to him.
Chelsea will be asking an arm and a leg for RLC at the end of the season, think we should walk away.
Unless he takes a drop in wages I can't see anyone outside the top 6 being able to afford him, let alone need him.
Quote from: Sammyffc on March 04, 2021, 11:23:15 PM
Post match comments
' Ruben has been a fantastic addition. I've seen someone grow immensely from the start of the season to a person and player now who has transformed. Hes grown massively and has been a massive help for us. At the moment its just about this year for Ruben, focus on the next 10 games and where he can still get better.But at the end if theres an opportunity to get it done ( to keep him perm ) id be more than happy to '
Sorry Scott, RLC is a chelsea player, he makes no secret of it the he is just using us to regain his form and tbh its not working. Chelsea can keep RLC and keep paying his 150k pw. If it was down to Blingo, he would have been sent back ages ago. Contributes nothing. Does'nt make or score goals, so what is he actually here for?
One goal and no assists so far this season
I would rather swap RLC for Billy Gilmore. :54:
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No matter what division we play in next season would you honestly pay £20 million + and 150 thousand a week for RLC based on his performances over the last 2 seasons. He is a strong midfield player but at the present time is very ineffective at producing goals either as a goal scorer or as an assist maker. I thought as a youngster he was outstanding but was that because of his physique? He rarely effectively heads the ball, is nowhere noticeable at free kicks. As a so called skilled midfielder should he be taking free kicks instead of "less skilled" players. It's wishful thinking that he will improve for us or Chelsea so should we be developing one of our own?
RLC is a look good loser. Does enough to show his ability, but has basically no effect in any game. Would be a thoroughly foolish signing on a permanent. Only hope would be if he could do an Anguissa and come good. But still, it's a high wage risk on a poorly performing player.
1 assist and 1 goal all season, what an incredible addition he has been.
Didn't know he was on £150k a week. Blimey that's ridiculous.
I cannoit believe that is true. Rubens is awful. He had 10 good minutes then disappeared yesterday. We looked so much better after he left the pitch. playing with 11 players is such a benifit rather than 10 and a passenger.
Quote from: bog on March 05, 2021, 11:30:46 AM
I would rather swap RLC for Billy Gilmore. :54:
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I'd swop him for a book of green shield stamps
Quote from: blingo on March 05, 2021, 03:07:34 PM
Quote from: bog on March 05, 2021, 11:30:46 AM
I would rather swap RLC for Billy Gilmore. :54:
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I'd swop him for a book of green shield stamps
I'd swap him for a half eaten bag of crisps and a flat bottle of Coke.
I would sign him
All being well we'll stay up and sign RLC on a permanent deal.
Well I guess that's one silver lining if we go down then, since that seems like the only way we'll see the back of him.
I don't understand people on here..
RLC wins tackles, holds the ball up and brings people in to the game. If he wants to stay it's a yes from me.
Take him in a second..
Quote from: Whitestone on March 06, 2021, 12:43:10 AM
All being well we'll stay up and sign RLC on a permanent deal.
Why?
Quote from: Texas White on March 06, 2021, 01:28:42 AM
I don't understand people on here..
RLC wins tackles, holds the ball up and brings people in to the game. If he wants to stay it's a yes from me.
Do you not understand his failure to either score goals or create assists? Shocking stats that show he is literally a waste of a space. If, and it seems to be a very big if, he were to start scoring or creating opportunities then I would consider changing my mind. But given his fee and his salary demands it has to be more than the odd goal once or twice per season.
Quote from: Texas White on March 06, 2021, 01:28:42 AM
I don't understand people on here..
RLC wins tackles, holds the ball up and brings people in to the game. If he wants to stay it's a yes from me.
Agree
Glen Hoddle summed it up for me when he said that his stats were simply not good enough for someone playing in that position.
I would love him to come good - we certainly need him to come good - but I'm not holding my breath.
Quote from: Whitestone on March 06, 2021, 12:43:10 AM
All being well we'll stay up and sign RLC on a permanent deal.
Agree
There are lies, dammed lies and stats
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on March 06, 2021, 09:02:09 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on March 06, 2021, 12:43:10 AM
All being well we'll stay up and sign RLC on a permanent deal.
Agree
He has made it clear he is going back to chelsea, so lets play with someone who actually WANTS the shirt.
Quote from: blingo on March 06, 2021, 09:21:38 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on March 06, 2021, 09:02:09 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on March 06, 2021, 12:43:10 AM
All being well we'll stay up and sign RLC on a permanent deal.
Agree
He has made it clear he is going back to chelsea, so lets play with someone who actually WANTS the shirt.
Time will tell, never say never.
Come on Woolly, he is never going to be a Fulham player, his heart is with chelsea, his wage is way above anything we would pay, and we can get players who actually produce, for the amount of money he would cost us.
Quote from: blingo on March 06, 2021, 11:14:30 AM
Come on Woolly, he is never going to be a Fulham player, his heart is with chelsea, his wage is way above anything we would pay, and we can get players who actually produce, for the amount of money he would cost us.
You may very well be right blingo but SP fancies him, and my crack intelligence unit also tells me that depending on which Division we will end up in.
Hypothetically, let's assume we stay up and let's assume that RLC has an interest in coming to Fulham.
He would command a sizeable transfer fee and become our highest earner.
Would it really be worth paying that for someone who contributes 1 goal and 0 assists playing as an attacking midfielder or winger?
Hint: No.
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on March 05, 2021, 12:37:21 AM
Quote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on March 05, 2021, 12:14:08 AM
For the first time since he arrivedI thought he had a pretty good game tonight. He has gradually improved since he came here, and was well below par at first, but if he keeps improving at this rate he may well have a big say in whether we stay up.
I would have him over Cairney now for sure.
He is a much more physical and athletic player... Cairney has more technical skill. If RLC could hit the back of the net even 3 times a season he'd be alright... but his final product is dire.
He can't shoot, Cairney can
It's amazing too me how people have just written our best player/captain off
Carney our best player? He can't hold a light to Anderson, tete, tosin, areola, or anguissa. Unless of course I'm missing something special about a player that is not quick enough for the premiership.
Quote from: Texas White on March 06, 2021, 01:28:42 AM
I don't understand people on here..
RLC wins tackles, holds the ball up and brings people in to the game. If he wants to stay it's a yes from me.
In my opinion these are three things he doesn't do, add not having the ability to shoot or run. The only positive thing he does is win free kicks by falling over if tackled. The complete player?
I think you need to see a shrink.
TC all day long and he even picks injuries up like an allergic reaction to the premier league. RLC ship him back from wherst he came
Slow old and mentally fragile. He has no will to win or passion.He has no goalscoring instinct.Just what is the point ?
Apart from that a great acquisition.
And to compare him to Cairney is just ridiculous. RLC is our version of Joe Bugner, looks good to begin with but no KO punch.He is playing better now but it has taken sooo long. If he or Cav were anyway decent we would have seen their names on the scoresheet more than the paultry effort they have added so far.
If we can get Cairney back fit and creative and play him in the right position in this team he will shine again.
Quote from: clarkey on March 07, 2021, 09:18:54 AM
Slow old and mentally fragile. He has no will to win or passion.He has no goalscoring instinct.Just what is the point ?
Apart from that a great acquisition.
And to compare him to Cairney is just ridiculous. RLC is our version of Joe Bugner, looks good to begin with but no KO punch.He is playing better now but it has taken sooo long. If he or Cav were anyway decent we would have seen their names on the scoresheet more than the paultry effort they have added so far.
If we can get Cairney back fit and creative and play him in the right position in this team he will shine again.
Old? He's just turned 25
Quote from: blingo on March 06, 2021, 04:45:20 PM
Carney our best player? He can't hold a light to Anderson, tete, tosin, areola, or anguissa. Unless of course I'm missing something special about a player that is not quick enough for the premiership.
You're simply falling back on the old "he's too slow" argument. To my mind it's a lazy minded criticism that completely ignores his style of play. You don't have to be capable of 100yds in 10 seconds or to have blinding acceleration, instead you can open play up, get us moving forward and create opportunities through passing and a football brain. And that is where TC scores big time.
To be fair I no longer see him as our best player, for this season that accolade goes to Andersen. But I do see him as one of our better players.
Quote from: Twig on March 07, 2021, 02:36:51 PM
Quote from: blingo on March 06, 2021, 04:45:20 PM
Carney our best player? He can't hold a light to Anderson, tete, tosin, areola, or anguissa. Unless of course I'm missing something special about a player that is not quick enough for the premiership.
You're simply falling back on the old "he's too slow" argument. To my mind it's a lazy minded criticism that completely ignores his style of play. You don't have to be capable of 100yds in 10 seconds or to have blinding acceleration, instead you can open play up, get us moving forward and create opportunities through passing and a football brain. And that is where TC scores big time.
To be fair I no longer see him as our best player, for this season that accolade goes to Andersen. But I do see him as one of our better players.
Quote from: Twig on March 07, 2021, 02:36:51 PM
Quote from: blingo on March 06, 2021, 04:45:20 PM
Carney our best player? He can't hold a light to Anderson, tete, tosin, areola, or anguissa. Unless of course I'm missing something special about a player that is not quick enough for the premiership.
You're simply falling back on the old "he's too slow" argument. To my mind it's a lazy minded criticism that completely ignores his style of play. You don't have to be capable of 100yds in 10 seconds or to have blinding acceleration, instead you can open play up, get us moving forward and create opportunities through passing and a football brain. And that is where TC scores big time.
To be fair I no longer see him as our best player, for this season that accolade goes to Andersen. But I do see him as one of our better players.
Problem is Cairney has never performed at the top level consistently, yes hes struggled with injuries but it's been a long time since he played at his peak (the slav promotion season)
he's never performed as well as Reed, Tete, Anderson, Areola, Aina, Lookman, in a top league. Even RLC for all the negative this year has done more in the premiership historically than him. Until he performs at his best at this level for more than 1 or 2 games, theres no reason to consider him our best player or even close to it at this point.
Not to slag the guy off, I would love for him to spring back and refind the form of 3-4 years ago but hes hardly been a captain in anything other than name (I'm very grateful Anderson has taken that title who is a more natural leader)
Fantastic in his day but hes got a lot to do to earn his place in the team again. Hope he does it as if he does it's only positive for us!
Quote from: jayffc on March 07, 2021, 02:58:00 PM
Quote from: Twig on March 07, 2021, 02:36:51 PM
Quote from: blingo on March 06, 2021, 04:45:20 PM
Carney our best player? He can't hold a light to Anderson, tete, tosin, areola, or anguissa. Unless of course I'm missing something special about a player that is not quick enough for the premiership.
You're simply falling back on the old "he's too slow" argument. To my mind it's a lazy minded criticism that completely ignores his style of play. You don't have to be capable of 100yds in 10 seconds or to have blinding acceleration, instead you can open play up, get us moving forward and create opportunities through passing and a football brain. And that is where TC scores big time.
To be fair I no longer see him as our best player, for this season that accolade goes to Andersen. But I do see him as one of our better players.
Quote from: Twig on March 07, 2021, 02:36:51 PM
Quote from: blingo on March 06, 2021, 04:45:20 PM
Carney our best player? He can't hold a light to Anderson, tete, tosin, areola, or anguissa. Unless of course I'm missing something special about a player that is not quick enough for the premiership.
You're simply falling back on the old "he's too slow" argument. To my mind it's a lazy minded criticism that completely ignores his style of play. You don't have to be capable of 100yds in 10 seconds or to have blinding acceleration, instead you can open play up, get us moving forward and create opportunities through passing and a football brain. And that is where TC scores big time.
To be fair I no longer see him as our best player, for this season that accolade goes to Andersen. But I do see him as one of our better players.
Problem is Cairney has never performed at the top level consistently, yes hes struggled with injuries but it's been a long time since he played at his peak (the slav promotion season)
he's never performed as well as Reed, Tete, Anderson, Areola, Aina, Lookman, in a top league. Even RLC for all the negative this year has done more in the premiership historically than him. Until he performs at his best at this level for more than 1 or 2 games, theres no reason to consider him our best player or even close to it at this point.
Not to slag the guy off, I would love for him to spring back and refind the form of 3-4 years ago but hes hardly been a captain in anything other than name (I'm very grateful Anderson has taken that title who is a more natural leader)
Fantastic in his day but hes got a lot to do to earn his place in the team again. Hope he does it as if he does it's only positive for us!
I agree.When he is fit again he will get a chance to show if he's good enough. Great if he is. He will need to play the ball forward faster than he has done in the past though. We have players who will make runs - he would need to find them quickly and consistently. The jury is still out.
