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Title: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: blingo on March 16, 2021, 11:18:47 AM
To win us our next three games?
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: karldutton on March 16, 2021, 11:45:34 AM
I do believe when people say he could be key. But considering he hasn't played well cause of all the issues he's been having this season. I think setting up a second stricker or attacking midfield (maybe Maja or Decordova) below Mitrovic, would help him a lot. Clearly Mitro and Bobby have a massive connection and can pass it well up front creating loads of open space. I think Mitro should definitely start games at this point cause he does seem to be playing much better now.
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: bog on March 16, 2021, 11:53:21 AM
Mitro has not got pace but his hold up play and lays offs around the opponent's penalty area are excellent. Ie in the play off final for the 2nd goal and v City in the last game.  As Scott goes for pace I think this restricts Mitro's selection.

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Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: Craven Mad on March 16, 2021, 11:59:41 AM
My view of Mitro hasn't changed: he's a good striker in a bad run of form. Sadly for him, I think Scott plays a system which doesn't always suit a target man, though, so he's been frozen out. A couple of goals and Scott might have to rethink whether Mitro is worth building his team around.
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: Ronnief on March 16, 2021, 12:01:33 PM
I would like to see Mitro starting the next match but the thorny question is who is dropped to accommodate him. We still need players to pass the ball to him so do we drop Cav, RLC, Frank, Lemina or Reid. Should Mitro play alongside Maja or should we bring in Jasper or Carvalho. There certainly is room on the bench for the last two as we have several defenders who just sit on the bench and would have no real attacking threat should they come on. Another to consider is Stansfield who together with Carvalho is capable of scoring and assisting goals. Some brave decision making will have to be made over our final games.
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: abfg on March 16, 2021, 12:15:54 PM
Assuming all fit, Maja and BDCR come in for Cav and RLC. Get our most in form, likeliest to score and influence the game forward players on the pitch. Mitro is so out of form - I'd probably give him a longer sub appearance if needed.
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: 70sPimlico on March 16, 2021, 01:24:17 PM
I think what we get with Mitro and without is a distinctive plan a & plan b. I remember us crying out for a plan B on here not that long ago...and rightly so.

I don't think anyone would disagree that fitting mitro into our current tactics does not work. For him or the team.

The WBA game really showed it to me. Parker picked Mitro quite surprisingly and we went to similar tactics of last season. WBA were set up to deal with how wed been playing and it completely outfoxed them and we were all over them. 2nd half, they changed it and that turned the game around. I actually think at this level, Mitro is quite easy to control, pretty much down to his pace.

The thing that frustrates me with Parker is that when he brings Mitro on, he tends to keep the tactics similar.

In the Premier, I see Mitro as a good weapon to bring on but I think the formation needs to change to get the best out of him. Last season we lost Mitro during lockdown and we were a different team and reaped the benefits an I think that was more to do with how the opposition set up against us. We were a different proposition. Had we continued like that for 20 odd games, maybe it wouldn't have been so successful.
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: Milo on March 16, 2021, 01:42:27 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on March 16, 2021, 01:24:17 PM
I think what we get with Mitro and without is a distinctive plan a & plan b. I remember us crying out for a plan B on here not that long ago...and rightly so.

I don't think anyone would disagree that fitting mitro into our current tactics does not work. For him or the team.

The WBA game really showed it to me. Parker picked Mitro quite surprisingly and we went to similar tactics of last season. WBA were set up to deal with how wed been playing and it completely outfoxed them and we were all over them. 2nd half, they changed it and that turned the game around. I actually think at this level, Mitro is quite easy to control, pretty much down to his pace.

The thing that frustrates me with Parker is that when he brings Mitro on, he tends to keep the tactics similar.

In the Premier, I see Mitro as a good weapon to bring on but I think the formation needs to change to get the best out of him. Last season we lost Mitro during lockdown and we were a different team and reaped the benefits an I think that was more to do with how the opposition set up against us. We were a different proposition. Had we continued like that for 20 odd games, maybe it wouldn't have been so successful.

Agree against clubs in relegation battle we should be playing similar to last year rather than our new counter attack method.
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: Arthur on March 16, 2021, 03:56:19 PM
Quote from: blingo on March 16, 2021, 11:18:47 AM
To win us our next three games?

No different, I guess, from how your view of Loftus-Cheek would change if he did the same.
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: WindyCity on March 16, 2021, 04:04:11 PM
I would suspect ANY player wearing a FFC shirt that scores winning goals in the next three games, presumably assuring survival, would be held in high regard if not hero status.  And deservedly so, having saved a very iffy season.  Don't hold your breath.

Dream on........
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: filham on March 16, 2021, 04:42:01 PM
The choice of striker for the Leeds match and for the rest of the season is critical, we desperately need to improve our scoring rate if we are going to pick up wns. The options are:-

1.Play without a lone central strike but with Lookman and Cav. coming in from forward wide positions. This looked good for 10 minutes against City but then failed.

2. Reinstated Mitro in his old lone striker role.

3. Play Maja and Miro up top in a 4-4- 2 formation.

5.Go back to 4-3-3 with Lookman Maja Reid as the front three with RLC behind them


I think Mitro should start but with more early balls into the box especially from wide positions.

Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: Bill2 on March 16, 2021, 05:49:35 PM
Quote from: bog on March 16, 2021, 11:53:21 AM
Mitro has not got pace but his hold up play and lays offs around the opponent's penalty area are excellent. Ie in the play off final for the 2nd goal and v City in the last game.  As Scott goes for pace I think this restricts Mitro's selection.

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I just watched the full 90 from the City game and he created more chances in the short time he was on than we did in the time before. His hold up play was excellent and the lay off was far superior to anyone else plying up front, just never got a shot away.
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on March 16, 2021, 06:06:45 PM
To me its  not about him scoring goals (although I know thats his job),its that he hasn't looked fit and because of this he doesn't get into the correct positions also this season he would rather give out to the ref or a team mate rather than try win the ball back .

We can talk about plan a,b or c but if he isnt doing the basics right he will never score .

A fit and hard working Mitro who smells goals will always be welcome in the team
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: roberto w6 on March 16, 2021, 06:21:26 PM
How would I feel? Delighted for him as he has contributed so much historically and has been an excellent servant. I would continue to play him while in form but unless that form was prolonged and sustained with regular goals from open-play, I do not think he is the guy who we should build our attack around in the PL (Championship - maybe).

I would not sell him. He can do a job as a squad striker. I'd also look at trying to use him in other positions. He regularly challenges for the ball, doesn't easily give it away and usually finds another white shirt to pass to. Could he do a job in midfield (those of you old enough will remember Ray Kennedy making this switch at Liverpool). Also, he could learn to play in the back 4 (I think Frank Stapleton did this switch for Man U). On current form, I'd prefer him there to Hector or Ream. So, I wouldn't sell him but I don't believe he is a PL quality goalscorer.

Would I play him next game against Leeds? Yes, up front with Maja or BDR in a front 2. I've said elsewhere he is not greedy enough to be a prolific goalscorer. He so often finds himself out wide trying to win the ball for the greater good of the team when he should be goal-hanging. With a partner up-front his straying wide wouldn't be such a problem.

Anyone who can (or used to be able to) score should be in our team now. We need to win and who cares if we do it by looking tactically naive or playing boring football. I'd much prefer to fix that next season as a PL side than as a Championship side...
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: blingo on March 16, 2021, 08:21:25 PM
Quote from: Arthur on March 16, 2021, 03:56:19 PM
Quote from: blingo on March 16, 2021, 11:18:47 AM
To win us our next three games?

No different, I guess, from how your view of Loftus-Cheek would change if he did the same.

My view on RLC would not differ, I don't want him at FFC he is a chelsea player and wants to remain so. Mitro is ours.
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: blingo on March 16, 2021, 08:22:51 PM
Quote from: filham on March 16, 2021, 04:42:01 PM
The choice of striker for the Leeds match and for the rest of the season is critical, we desperately need to improve our scoring rate if we are going to pick up wns. The options are:-

1.Play without a lone central strike but with Lookman and Cav. coming in from forward wide positions. This looked good for 10 minutes against City but then failed.

2. Reinstated Mitro in his old lone striker role.

3. Play Maja and Miro up top in a 4-4- 2 formation.

5.Go back to 4-3-3 with Lookman Maja Reid as the front three with RLC behind them


I think Mitro should start but with more early balls into the box especially from wide positions.


I'll take no4 Mr Filham hahahahaha
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: General on March 16, 2021, 10:57:20 PM
I think any criticisms of mitro this season given how little he's played are harsh given his outstanding record for us when he does play consistently. I want him lookman, BDR and Maja all in our team.
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: Arthur on March 17, 2021, 03:05:57 AM
Quote from: blingo on March 16, 2021, 08:21:25 PM
Quote from: Arthur on March 16, 2021, 03:56:19 PM
Quote from: blingo on March 16, 2021, 11:18:47 AM
To win us our next three games?

No different, I guess, from how your view of Loftus-Cheek would change if he did the same.

My view on RLC would not differ, I don't want him at FFC he is a chelsea player and wants to remain so. Mitro is ours.

I'm not surprised you say your view of Loftus-Cheek wouldn't change. I trust you're not surprised that I don't think my view of Mitrovic would change either.
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: Tempest on March 17, 2021, 07:47:27 AM
In my 40 years of supporting Fulham Mitro is up in the top 5 strikers for me, he still is.

Obviously there is a problem, none of us know what it is but in my uneducated view he has not recovered from the injury pre play offs, he has played all summer injured and then effectively got Serbia knocked out by Scotland of all teams by missing the pen.

Not fit, short of confidence.

I seemingly live in a delusional world where he and RLC will make significant contributions to us staying up in the last 9 games.

I think Mitro is still vital for us.

Actually, think Mitro is in top 3 strikers for us, struggling with 5.

Saha, McBride, Ivor, Barry Hales, ok, top 5 it is.



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Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: toshes mate on March 17, 2021, 07:55:52 AM
I would hope that Parker's view of Mitro would change if he invested time and effort to finding a system that played to his strengths and took advantage of Andersen's undoubted ability to pick a long pass.   Forget all Mitro's flaws and give him a chance.   Jokanovic did it having struggled with false number nines for god knows how long.  Parker has frustratingly given his go to and wasteful regulars long, long runs without solving the main issue – if you don't score goals you cannot win games.

My view on Mitro has not changed since day one and I believe Parker has created the problem for himself whilst not applying the same principle to his other forwards who cannot hit the target to any good effect week in week out. 
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on March 17, 2021, 08:07:23 AM
I'm sure Mitrovic can score a lot of goals in the Premier League with a different manager and in a different system but he's not the best option for Parkerball.

Personally I think we should consider other options even if we're relegated. We know Mitro can score a lot of goals in the Championship but remember what happened last season. Apart from one or two games (Millwall?) we didn't really come to life until Mitro was suspended near the end of the season. In fact, there's a good chance we could have missed out on promotion if Mitro had played those games. But then again, we may not have been anywhere near the playoffs at that stage without Mitro's goals.

Tough choice. I still think he's a good striker but out of form but for me he is currently Plan B (which we never seem to use anyway...).
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: junior white on March 17, 2021, 08:07:45 AM
My opinion of Mitro wouldn't change and it hasn't changed this season for last or those before. He was and is a good player for this squad to have. This season for many reasons he has been unfit, out off form, lacking confidence and rumoured (which I do not believe) to have wanted to leave.

The fact is football is a team game and you cannot play to one players strengths alone, you need to the squad to be a whole and do what is best for them. Sometimes that means you have to adapt your game and I think Mitro has struggled with that. When we signed him we were set up for his style, we had a small tweak to make it even better. This season SP has tweaked the a different way in that pace has become more prevalent, since doing so out play has been better and we have been more competitive to the point where we have a good chance of staying up.

Mitro will get a chance i am sure of that and i am sure he will take one and it will be a vital one, thats who he is and who we want, but for now he has to bed his time and work hard as others have done in the past.

As I say my opinion will not change of him at all.
Title: Re: How would people's view of Mitro change, if he was played and scored
Post by: blingo on March 17, 2021, 09:52:14 AM
Quote from: Arthur on March 17, 2021, 03:05:57 AM
Quote from: blingo on March 16, 2021, 08:21:25 PM
Quote from: Arthur on March 16, 2021, 03:56:19 PM
Quote from: blingo on March 16, 2021, 11:18:47 AM
To win us our next three games?

No different, I guess, from how your view of Loftus-Cheek would change if he did the same.

My view on RLC would not differ, I don't want him at FFC he is a chelsea player and wants to remain so. Mitro is ours.

I'm not surprised you say your view of Loftus-Cheek wouldn't change. I trust you're not surprised that I don't think my view of Mitrovic would change either.



Not in the slightest Arthur and that is your right, but I fail to see where on earth you find any positives in RLC playing for FFC