The loanees and want aways will not want an injury chasing a lost cause (I reckon after Friday he may have lost the players faith)
Don't reckon the bookies would give very long odds either!
I'd be pleasantly surprised if we ever score again this season (own goals do not count)
I can see no more than three points.
I reckon that's a 5000/1 shot. Never gonna happen. I admire your optimism!
Quote from: Whitestone on April 12, 2021, 08:57:47 PM
I reckon that's a 5000/1 shot. Never gonna happen. I admire your optimism!
Wow you offer fantastic odds £2 e-way?
There is no reason why we cannot beat Burnley, Southampton, and Newcastle. And, I don't think Sheffield United losing to either Newcastle or Brighton is a certainty. In conclusion, this season is far from over, we just need some form.
Quote from: 3 Cherries on April 12, 2021, 08:49:24 PM
The loanees and want aways will not want an injury chasing a lost cause (I reckon after Friday he may have lost the players faith)
Don't reckon the bookies would give very long odds either!
I'd be pleasantly surprised if we ever score again this season (own goals do not count)
I think our loanees have been committed to the cause, and they won't want a relegation on their cv - they are on loan for a reason, because they weren't in their home clubs immediate plans, so they surely want very much to impress.
The media are now giving WBA a a chance, when they'd been written, off, and, ok I know they seem on a roll, but if they still have a chance of survival, why not us?
IF we can get back the form we had just a few weeks ago, when we beat Liverpool , Leicester and Everton, and came close home to Liverpool, and Man U, undone by awful ref decisions, we have a chance. I feel Newcastle are bound to slip up along the way.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on April 13, 2021, 02:19:34 AM
There is no reason why we cannot beat Burnley, Southampton, and Newcastle. And, I don't think Sheffield United losing to either Newcastle or Brighton is a certainty. In conclusion, this season is far from over, we just need some form.
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Agree with the OP.
With six matches to play under the shadow of relegation wht will be the priority of a loan players.
1, Maximum effort and prepared to run into a brick wall for the manager in spite of poor team performances.
2. Put in a good indivual performance displaying persoal skills to attract new premier league club.
3. Avoid any end of season injury to ensure possible new clubs don't hesitate in making signing.
We could be in for some big defeats in the last six games and it is hard to see where another goal is coming from let alone a win.
Quote from: 3 Cherries on April 12, 2021, 08:49:24 PM
The loanees and want aways will not want an injury chasing a lost cause (I reckon after Friday he may have lost the players faith)
Don't reckon the bookies would give very long odds either!
I'd be pleasantly surprised if we ever score again this season (own goals do not count)
+1
People saying "Oh but we can beat Burnley" or "Southampton are in terrible form" are refusing to acknowledge our faults.
We can't score.
In particular, it is these "winnable" games where it is most evident that we are content to sit and play for a 0-0 draw. It's the major criticism of SP
While I also think we are gone as those teams around us are playing with more passion and desire than we seem to I cannot agree with the point about not scoring another goal, I am sure we will score at least 1.
I am probably praying for a miracle in our approach to the remaining games but that will require Scotty to change his playing style and I cannot really see that as he hasn't previously. Funnily enough didn't we play Newcastle at home last game of the season in the previous relegation season. We were pathetic that day and got stuffed 0-4. Walked out of the ground in disgust and threw programme in the first dustbin I came across.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on April 13, 2021, 02:19:34 AM
There is no reason why we cannot beat Burnley, Southampton, and Newcastle. And, I don't think Sheffield United losing to either Newcastle or Brighton is a certainty. In conclusion, this season is far from over, we just need some form.
Agree 100%.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on April 13, 2021, 02:19:34 AM
There is no reason why we cannot beat Burnley, Southampton, and Newcastle. And, I don't think Sheffield United losing to either Newcastle or Brighton is a certainty. In conclusion, this season is far from over, we just need some form.
I watched Sheffield Utd against Arsenal and they looked absolute cack. Even worse than us going forward. Must be a new young manager thing.
Quote from: Bill2 on April 13, 2021, 10:01:33 AM
While I also think we are gone as those teams around us are playing with more passion and desire than we seem to I cannot agree with the point about not scoring another goal, I am sure we will score at least 1.
I am probably praying for a miracle in our approach to the remaining games but that will require Scotty to change his playing style and I cannot really see that as he hasn't previously. Funnily enough didn't we play Newcastle at home last game of the season in the previous relegation season. We were pathetic that day and got stuffed 0-4. Walked out of the ground in disgust and threw programme in the first dustbin I came across.
Wow , I like the confidence in stating that we may will score a goal in the last six games, that sums us up nicely.
Of course we should be looking forward to another ten or so goals.
Quote from: filham on April 13, 2021, 01:52:41 PM
Quote from: Bill2 on April 13, 2021, 10:01:33 AM
While I also think we are gone as those teams around us are playing with more passion and desire than we seem to I cannot agree with the point about not scoring another goal, I am sure we will score at least 1.
I am probably praying for a miracle in our approach to the remaining games but that will require Scotty to change his playing style and I cannot really see that as he hasn't previously. Funnily enough didn't we play Newcastle at home last game of the season in the previous relegation season. We were pathetic that day and got stuffed 0-4. Walked out of the ground in disgust and threw programme in the first dustbin I came across.
Wow , I like the confidence in stating that we may will score a goal in the last six games, that sums us up nicely.
Of course we should be looking forward to another ten or so goals.
It would take us another 25 games to score 10 goals. Depressing
Current form:
4 Losses
Scored for: 2 (1 was a fluke)
Scored against: 10
Now that stat is going to get worse after the Arsenal game
And I just don't see anybody in our current predicament busting a gut for a point or goal when our season is over
Totally agree, we're rubbish and have been for a while!
Ever since that WBA second half capitulation, it's been like this.
#HoweIn
Quote from: PaulJ123 on April 14, 2021, 10:38:00 AM
Totally agree, we're rubbish and have been for a while!
Ever since that WBA second half capitulation, it's been like this.
#HoweIn
Since drawing with West Brom, we have beaten Everton, Liverpool etc and had a mini unbeaten run.
Rebel,
what in the last four defeats gives you confidence that we can get out of this ? Im an optimistic person , but i see nothing.
Quote from: Mr White on April 14, 2021, 11:04:39 AM
Rebel,
what in the last four defeats gives you confidence that we can get out of this ? Im an optimistic person , but i see nothing.
We've done better away from home, 4 of the remaining matches are away from home. We play 3 of the remaining matches against 'top teams', we perform better against top teams, less physicality and more skillful. In the 4 defeats we've always been in the matches. Some look worse then others, Man City and Villa, really bad mistakes. Those things can be fixed. We had 'unbeaten' run, we just need to get back to that place. The 2 home matches are against teams in the bottom half of the table.
I can only see points if we change tactics and play two Strikers, and we will still need some luck. But here's hoping 049:gif
Quote from: The Rational Fan on April 13, 2021, 02:19:34 AM
There is no reason why we cannot beat Burnley, Southampton, and Newcastle. And, I don't think Sheffield United losing to either Newcastle or Brighton is a certainty. In conclusion, this season is far from over, we just need some form.
Living up to your name
I admire your optimism
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on April 14, 2021, 03:27:25 PM
I can only see points if we change tactics and play two Strikers, and we will still need some luck. But here's hoping 049:gif
Agree 100%
Quote from: rebel on April 14, 2021, 11:29:56 AM
Quote from: Mr White on April 14, 2021, 11:04:39 AM
Rebel,
what in the last four defeats gives you confidence that we can get out of this ? Im an optimistic person , but i see nothing.
We've done better away from home, 4 of the remaining matches are away from home. We play 3 of the remaining matches against 'top teams', we perform better against top teams, less physicality and more skillful. In the 4 defeats we've always been in the matches. Some look worse then others, Man City and Villa, really bad mistakes. Those things can be fixed. We had 'unbeaten' run, we just need to get back to that place. The 2 home matches are against teams in the bottom half of the table.
Whilst I admire your optimism Rebel, I think it is important to note that in that "unbeaten" runs most of the results were draws. Draws aren't good enough.
I'm sure we'll win a game, once we're mathematically relegated.
Prior to that i don't see a victory because we don't seem to know what our own tactics are. We set up for possession and don't get crosses in to an isolated Mitro, or we attack on the break without the the correct team selection, getting to the corner flag rather than running at the defense and then passing back eventually to Areole.
Quote from: FFC In Oz on April 14, 2021, 03:32:43 PM
Quote from: rebel on April 14, 2021, 11:29:56 AM
Quote from: Mr White on April 14, 2021, 11:04:39 AM
Rebel,
what in the last four defeats gives you confidence that we can get out of this ? Im an optimistic person , but i see nothing.
We've done better away from home, 4 of the remaining matches are away from home. We play 3 of the remaining matches against 'top teams', we perform better against top teams, less physicality and more skillful. In the 4 defeats we've always been in the matches. Some look worse then others, Man City and Villa, really bad mistakes. Those things can be fixed. We had 'unbeaten' run, we just need to get back to that place. The 2 home matches are against teams in the bottom half of the table.
Whilst I admire your optimism Rebel, I think it is important to note that in that "unbeaten" runs most of the results were draws. Draws aren't good enough.
Agree, we need to win them, draws are a road to nowhere.
Quote from: 3 Cherries on April 12, 2021, 08:49:24 PM
The loanees and want aways will not want an injury chasing a lost cause (I reckon after Friday he may have lost the players faith)
Don't reckon the bookies would give very long odds either!
I'd be pleasantly surprised if we ever score again this season (own goals do not count)
That's what we want. Undying support to the end ! God help us.
Quote from: Gezza on April 14, 2021, 08:52:37 PM
Quote from: 3 Cherries on April 12, 2021, 08:49:24 PM
The loanees and want aways will not want an injury chasing a lost cause (I reckon after Friday he may have lost the players faith)
Don't reckon the bookies would give very long odds either!
I'd be pleasantly surprised if we ever score again this season (own goals do not count)
That's what we want. Undying support to the end ! God help us.
This isn't the Battle of Britain its a game of football and support doesn't change the reality
Quote from: 3 Cherries on April 14, 2021, 09:45:19 PM
Quote from: Gezza on April 14, 2021, 08:52:37 PM
Quote from: 3 Cherries on April 12, 2021, 08:49:24 PM
The loanees and want aways will not want an injury chasing a lost cause (I reckon after Friday he may have lost the players faith)
Don't reckon the bookies would give very long odds either!
I'd be pleasantly surprised if we ever score again this season (own goals do not count)
That's what we want. Undying support to the end ! God help us.
This isn't the Battle of Britain its a game of football and support doesn't change the reality
Exactly. It's a game of football and we are supposed to be supporters. Don't see much of that here.
Quote from: Gezza on April 14, 2021, 10:27:07 PM
Quote from: 3 Cherries on April 14, 2021, 09:45:19 PM
Quote from: Gezza on April 14, 2021, 08:52:37 PM
Quote from: 3 Cherries on April 12, 2021, 08:49:24 PM
The loanees and want aways will not want an injury chasing a lost cause (I reckon after Friday he may have lost the players faith)
Don't reckon the bookies would give very long odds either!
I'd be pleasantly surprised if we ever score again this season (own goals do not count)
That's what we want. Undying support to the end ! God help us.
This isn't the Battle of Britain its a game of football and support doesn't change the reality
Exactly. It's a game of football and we are supposed to be supporters. Don't see much of that here.
Agree Gezza
Agree Gezza.
Quote from: Gezza on April 14, 2021, 10:27:07 PM
Quote from: 3 Cherries on April 14, 2021, 09:45:19 PM
Quote from: Gezza on April 14, 2021, 08:52:37 PM
Quote from: 3 Cherries on April 12, 2021, 08:49:24 PM
The loanees and want aways will not want an injury chasing a lost cause (I reckon after Friday he may have lost the players faith)
Don't reckon the bookies would give very long odds either!
I'd be pleasantly surprised if we ever score again this season (own goals do not count)
That's what we want. Undying support to the end ! God help us.
This isn't the Battle of Britain its a game of football and support doesn't change the reality
Exactly. It's a game of football and we are supposed to be supporters. Don't see much of that here.
Agree, Gezza.
Arsenal away just the kind of game we could go and win, Newcastle shouldn't be getting anything from a rampant Wet spam and back to only 3 points behind with a better GD and an easier run in! Being a lifelong supporter of 51 years you know Fulham will give hope before withdrawing it soon after. May as well try to be positive Arsenal should be tired after tonight and have little to play for.
haha so supporters are meant to be passive deniers, continuing to chase after a lost cause
does that imply critical supporters aren't maybe as loyal...?
Unless supporters critically challenge this lousy season and call it out for what it is, nothing will change and we'll have an underwhelming, depressing season in the Championship
As for beating Arsenal - you're having a laugh :dft011:
Quote from: 3 Cherries on April 15, 2021, 08:26:41 AM
haha so supporters are meant to be passive deniers, continuing to chase after a lost cause
does that imply critical supporters aren't maybe as loyal...?
Unless supporters critically challenge this lousy season and call it out for what it is, nothing will change and we'll have an underwhelming, depressing season in the Championship
As for beating Arsenal - you're having a laugh :dft011:
I'd say that over the last 4 / 5 weeks 99% of posts has been critical of the team, in part or completely, so again your 'hypothesis' is incorrect. The reality is teams have survived in much worse circumstances.
forgetting the first 8 games I don't think we have been too far away, bit of luck and the odd bit of good fortune could see us on 5/6 points more than we are now, Liverpools pen, disallowed goal v spuds etc, etc. Maybe having a laugh Mr Cherries but will be watching with optimism and foolish hope maybe until impossible.
May as well get behind the lads as not, the job is theirs until the end of the season when stay up or not another rebuild on the cards.
COYW
Quote from: Barrett487 on April 14, 2021, 06:41:08 PM
I'm sure we'll win a game, once we're mathematically relegated.
Prior to that i don't see a victory because we don't seem to know what our own tactics are. We set up for possession and don't get crosses in to an isolated Mitro, or we attack on the break without the the correct team selection, getting to the corner flag rather than running at the defense and then passing back eventually to Areole.
Agree 100% these tactics won't bet Arsenal, I'm all for getting behind the team,but we're toothless up front,
Fans have a right to be pissed off when it's plane as day what's wrong,and nothing changes.
Quote from: northamptonsteve on April 15, 2021, 10:05:45 AM
forgetting the first 8 games I don't think we have been too far away, bit of luck and the odd bit of good fortune could see us on 5/6 points more than we are now, Liverpools pen, disallowed goal v spuds etc, etc. Maybe having a laugh Mr Cherries but will be watching with optimism and foolish hope maybe until impossible.
May as well get behind the lads as not, the job is theirs until the end of the season when stay up or not another rebuild on the cards.
COYW
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Quote from: northamptonsteve on April 15, 2021, 10:05:45 AM
forgetting the first 8 games I don't think we have been too far away, bit of luck and the odd bit of good fortune could see us on 5/6 points more than we are now, Liverpools pen, disallowed goal v spuds etc, etc. Maybe having a laugh Mr Cherries but will be watching with optimism and foolish hope maybe until impossible.
May as well get behind the lads as not, the job is theirs until the end of the season when stay up or not another rebuild on the cards.
COYW
We've lost 19 points this season from winning positions. We would be out of sight with those 19 points.
Just the 30 seconds away from having a laugh 3 cherries and still believing until the end! And do you know what, I am going to keep hoping and believing next season too whatever division we play, COYW and let's all start supporting.
Bring on the abuse for being supportive!3
Quote from: rebel on April 15, 2021, 12:37:42 PM
Quote from: northamptonsteve on April 15, 2021, 10:05:45 AM
forgetting the first 8 games I don't think we have been too far away, bit of luck and the odd bit of good fortune could see us on 5/6 points more than we are now, Liverpools pen, disallowed goal v spuds etc, etc. Maybe having a laugh Mr Cherries but will be watching with optimism and foolish hope maybe until impossible.
May as well get behind the lads as not, the job is theirs until the end of the season when stay up or not another rebuild on the cards.
COYW
We've lost 19 points this season from winning positions. We would be out of sight with those 19 points.
We've lost 21 points this season from winning positions etc. I still believe.
We've lost what we lost can't be changed may as well get being the lads and each other for the run in, if we fall short then so be it! A good championship team I would have given anything for 30 years ago but I think the Khans have better things planned! Not a good season to win the playoffs, short preseason and gave up the first 8 games getting players in.
Well atleast the topic starter "3 cherries" has an egg on his face and is pleasantly surprised now. :005:
We might actually get something out of the next game, no RLC in the lineup allowed, isn't that right?
Oh goodie! We might win!
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on April 18, 2021, 10:00:21 PM
We might actually get something out of the next game, no RLC in the lineup allowed, isn't that right?
Oh goodie! We might win!
I also hope he's not part of the 'briefing sessions', they are kept under wraps.
