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Title: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle - WE HAVE TO WIN TONIGHT
Post by: rebel on April 18, 2021, 07:58:20 AM

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Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and Newcastle
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on April 18, 2021, 08:05:32 AM
And your point is ?
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and Newcastle
Post by: rebel on April 18, 2021, 08:14:33 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 18, 2021, 08:05:32 AM
And your point is ?

The point is I don't see too many winable matches for Burnley, Brighton or Newcastle. You clearly missed the point. The only maches you could potential pencil in 3 points is Sheff Utd.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and Newcastle
Post by: colham on April 18, 2021, 08:20:40 AM
Doesn't matter what their games are if we can't win ours.  We've already had a run of 'must-win' and 'winnable' games and failed.  We need to win 4 of our remaining fixtures.  Just not happening. 
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and Newcastle
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on April 18, 2021, 08:21:17 AM
Quote from: rebel on April 18, 2021, 08:14:33 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 18, 2021, 08:05:32 AM
And your point is ?

The point is I don't see too many winable matches for Burnley, Brighton or Newcastle. You clearly missed the point. The only maches you could potential pencil in 3 points is Sheff Utd.

And would you have thought West Ham was a winnable game for Newcastle. Or Chelsea a winnable game for West Brom. Or Leeds, Villa and Wolves winnable games for us?
Pointless exercise looking at fixtures and predicting this season.

Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and Newcastle
Post by: Nero on April 18, 2021, 08:25:17 AM
Quote from: rebel on April 18, 2021, 08:14:33 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 18, 2021, 08:05:32 AM
And your point is ?

The point is I don't see too many winnable matches for Burnley, Brighton or Newcastle. You clearly missed the point. The only matches you could potentially pencil in 3 points is Sheff Utd.

But how many winnable games have Fulham got? 3 at most if we're lucky and that includes games against Burnley and Newcastle that are also more winnable by them given our results against bottom 6 teams the year
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and Newcastle
Post by: colham on April 18, 2021, 08:27:37 AM
Quote from: Nero on April 18, 2021, 08:25:17 AM
Quote from: rebel on April 18, 2021, 08:14:33 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 18, 2021, 08:05:32 AM
And your point is ?

The point is I don't see too many winnable matches for Burnley, Brighton or Newcastle. You clearly missed the point. The only matches you could potentially pencil in 3 points is Sheff Utd.

But how many winnable games have Fulham got? 3 at most if we're lucky and that includes games against Burnley and Newcastle that are also more winnable by them given our results against bottom 6 teams the year

Exactly.  We need to win our 3 'winnable' games, and also get a win at the Emirates, Stamford Bridge or Old Trafford.  Pie in the sky stuff*

*Happy to be proven wrong
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and Newcastle
Post by: rebel on April 18, 2021, 08:34:29 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 18, 2021, 08:21:17 AM
Quote from: rebel on April 18, 2021, 08:14:33 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 18, 2021, 08:05:32 AM
And your point is ?

The point is I don't see too many winable matches for Burnley, Brighton or Newcastle. You clearly missed the point. The only maches you could potential pencil in 3 points is Sheff Utd.

And would you have thought West Ham was a winnable game for Newcastle. Or Chelsea a winnable game for West Brom. Or Leeds, Villa and Wolves winnable games for us?
Pointless exercise looking at fixtures and predicting this season.



Would you of thought Leeds would have beaten Man City 2 - 1? No (not the only upset this season), I backed Man City to win that match. We generally perform better against the top sides, we've done better away from home this season. 
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and Newcastle
Post by: AJW48361 on April 18, 2021, 09:17:16 AM
I hate to say it but the others sides may not need to win anymore games.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and Newcastle
Post by: PaulJ123 on April 18, 2021, 09:39:06 AM
Quote from: AJW48361 on April 18, 2021, 09:17:16 AM
I hate to say it but the others sides may not need to win anymore games.

Absolutely not. I'd feel very save on c.35 points.

#HoweIn
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and Newcastle
Post by: fulham traveller on April 18, 2021, 09:52:36 AM
Unless we win 5 out of 6 ( not going to happen ) we are down unless we beat Arsenal and Chelsea
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and Newcastle
Post by: rebel on April 20, 2021, 09:00:51 AM
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Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - BRIGHTON TONIGHT
Post by: rebel on April 21, 2021, 06:21:27 AM
Brighton got a draw, not ideal, but a lot of disruption at Chelsea pre match. So I think circumstances might have dictated the result.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - West Brom play Thursday
Post by: FFC In Oz on April 21, 2021, 06:58:24 AM
Quote from: colham on April 18, 2021, 08:20:40 AM
Doesn't matter what their games are if we can't win ours.  We've already had a run of 'must-win' and 'winnable' games and failed.  We need to win 4 of our remaining fixtures.  Just not happening. 

Correct.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - West Brom play TONIGHT
Post by: rebel on April 22, 2021, 10:50:18 AM
West Brom play tonight.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - All playing over the WEEKEND
Post by: rebel on April 24, 2021, 09:35:42 AM
All the teams play this weekend, this weekend will highlight what we need to do, without the games in hand.
Southampton will be the only team with a game in hand.

Newcastle face Liverpool, Arsenal, Leicester and Man City, but they do have points in the bank. 
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - All playing over the WEEKEND
Post by: St Eve on April 24, 2021, 12:38:46 PM
Liverpool 1 up
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - All playing over the WEEKEND
Post by: jayffc on April 24, 2021, 02:27:47 PM
Well newcastle surely almost officially out of reach, showing more fight and drew against liverpool
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - All playing over the WEEKEND
Post by: Wingnut on April 24, 2021, 02:29:19 PM
Incredible finish to the game at Anfield. VAR comes to Liverpool's rescue and disallows a Newcastle goal in the 90th minute. Newcastle keep pushing and they get an equaliser in the 95th minute. They were appalling today. Should have been beaten off the pitch. Credit to them for fighting till the end though. Liverpool were awful in front of goal.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - All playing over the WEEKEND
Post by: JoelH5 on April 24, 2021, 02:39:38 PM
Newcastle are safe.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - All playing over the WEEKEND
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on April 24, 2021, 08:20:09 PM
Sheff U 1-0 up bless um
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - All playing over the WEEKEND
Post by: JoelH5 on April 24, 2021, 08:52:38 PM
Brighton could easily not get another point if they lose this. We get to to play Burnely, Newcastle and Southampton. They can definitely be caught.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - All playing over the WEEKEND
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on April 25, 2021, 03:19:31 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on April 24, 2021, 08:52:38 PM
Brighton could easily not get another point if they lose this. We get to to play Burnely, Newcastle and Southampton. They can definitely be caught.

Brighton lost to Sheff United.

Should Sheff United best Burnley in the coming week, we're in it.

Keep the faith until it's mathematically impossible.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - All playing over the WEEKEND
Post by: RaySmith on April 25, 2021, 05:41:21 AM
Sheff U were good v Brighton, playing with renewed confidence- looked a different team.

Burnley will be a tough proposition, though.

Stressful  hoping other teams slip up, and then we still have to win our games.

COYW
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and WBA - BURNLEY AND WBA PLAYING TODAY
Post by: rebel on April 25, 2021, 08:13:10 AM
Burnley and West Brom playing today.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and WBA - BURNLEY (BBC 1) AND WBA PLAYING TODAY
Post by: Mr White on April 25, 2021, 08:56:01 AM

  VAR is going to have a huge say in this Relegation,its like Russian roulette, who's feeling lucky? wet spam will feel VAR cost them the game.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and WBA - BURNLEY (BBC 1) AND WBA PLAYING TODAY
Post by: Southdowns White on April 25, 2021, 09:36:58 AM
Sorry to be pessimistic but unless we somehow get some points it doesn't mean anything, even if all these teams lose every game for the remainder of the season. How will Parker suddenly change our team in order to gain some points?
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and WBA - BURNLEY (BBC 1) AND WBA PLAYING TODAY
Post by: rebel on April 25, 2021, 09:40:57 AM
Quote from: Southdowns White on April 25, 2021, 09:36:58 AM
Sorry to be pessimistic but unless we somehow get some points it doesn't mean anything, even if all these teams lose every game for the remainder of the season. How will Parker suddenly change our team in order to gain some points?

Supporters said that before the Arsenal match, nearly got the 3 points. You could say the same after each match.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and WBA - BURNLEY (BBC 1) AND WBA PLAYING TODAY
Post by: JoelH5 on April 25, 2021, 10:04:29 AM
Quote from: rebel on April 25, 2021, 09:40:57 AM
Quote from: Southdowns White on April 25, 2021, 09:36:58 AM
Sorry to be pessimistic but unless we somehow get some points it doesn't mean anything, even if all these teams lose every game for the remainder of the season. How will Parker suddenly change our team in order to gain some points?

Supporters said that before the Arsenal match, nearly got the 3 points. You could say the same after each match.

I think we actually looked much better defensively against Arsenal too, we had started to look a bit suspect again.

We will need some luck, of course, but it can definitely happen.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and WBA - BURNLEY (BBC 1) AND WBA PLAYING TODAY
Post by: fcfulham55 on April 25, 2021, 01:33:57 PM
Burnley safe.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and WBA - BURNLEY (BBC 1) AND WBA PLAYING TODAY
Post by: fcfulham55 on April 25, 2021, 01:34:42 PM
Bottom 3 as is.  West Brom and Fulham to battle for the best of the worst.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and WBA - ALL PLAY THIS WEEKEND
Post by: rebel on May 01, 2021, 11:11:08 AM
Southampton played yesterday, got a 1 - 1 draw against Leicester, not ideal.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and WBA - ALL PLAY THIS WEEKEND (PLUS MON)
Post by: blingo on May 01, 2021, 11:53:10 AM
West brom and Newcastle don't take their forwards off with 20 minutes left, and they are pushing hard to get results, something we are incapable of under Parker. One point from FIFTEEN is pathetic and we beat Liverpool with how many of their first team players missing?
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and WBA - ALL PLAY THIS WEEKEND (PLUS MON)
Post by: Bill2 on May 01, 2021, 01:11:28 PM
Quote from: rebel on April 18, 2021, 08:14:33 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 18, 2021, 08:05:32 AM
And your point is ?

The point is I don't see too many winable matches for Burnley, Brighton or Newcastle. You clearly missed the point. The only maches you could potential pencil in 3 points is Sheff Utd.
Not sure about any team playing Arsenal. Arteta will be entirely focused on the coming european game as he has nothing to play for in the league. Will rest key players and not sure the rest will be going all out for a win knowing they will have to play midweek. Good time to play them and  Newcastle will know it.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and WBA - Burnley and West Brom Play Tonight
Post by: rebel on May 03, 2021, 10:15:37 AM
Burnley and West Brom play tonight.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton and WBA - Burnley and West Brom Play Tonight
Post by: rebel on May 06, 2021, 05:57:45 AM
C/O The Rational Fan

Relegation is not certain. If we win our last four games, it is mathematically very unlikely we'll get relegated.

If Fulham wins their remaining games, then we are 39 points and have goal difference of -16.
So, Newcastle has to get 4 points against Sheffield, Leicester & ManCity (goal difference will be worse than -20).
So, Burnley has to get 4 points against Sheffield, Leicester & ManCity (goal difference will be worse than -16).
So, Southampton has to get 3 points against Palace, Leeds & West Ham, Liverpool (GD will be worse than -18).
So, Brighton has to get 2 points against Wolves, West Ham, Man City & Arsenal (GD will be better than us).
So, Palace has to get 2 points against Southampton, Villa, Arsenal & Liverpool (GD will be worse than -22).
One of the above five teams won't get the points required (probably two to three won't), especially if Sheffield draws their last two games.

Most teams that stay up will win three in a row at some stage, we need to win four in a row. If Newcastle stays up it was only, because of their 8 points in four games against Spurs, Burnley, West Ham, and Liverpool.

Burnley, Southampton and Newcastle should be winnable for any team worthy of being in the Premier League. ManUnited has lost to Crystal Palace and Sheffield United, plus drawn with Palace and WBA so why not lose to us.

If ManUnited beat Villa, then they have qualified for the Champions League and Europa is their priority.  If they also beat Leicester, then ManUnited is second and a dead rubber with winning Europa priority is a winnable game.

We don't have to worry about other teams we have four winnable games, and mathematically we will stay up if we achieve four wins. Besides, going for 4 wins and just missing out will develop us into the team that wins next season.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2021, 08:49:15 AM by The Rational Fan »
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - Newcastle play today
Post by: rebel on May 07, 2021, 06:42:53 AM
Newcastle play tonight.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - Newcastle play tonight
Post by: SuffolkWhite on May 07, 2021, 09:30:47 AM
I know it's not over until it's over and I am usually optimistic, But, if we can't beat any of Leeds,Villa and Wolves then our chances are slim.to none.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - Newcastle play tonight
Post by: rebel on May 07, 2021, 12:54:37 PM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on May 07, 2021, 09:30:47 AM
I know it's not over until it's over and I am usually optimistic, But, if we can't beat any of Leeds,Villa and Wolves then our chances are slim.to none.

We've played better against the 'big' teams, but the guys need to 'roll up' their sleeves and get down to business.
They need to be given the John Beck treatment.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/jan/03/fa-cup-histon-john-beck
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - Newcastle play today
Post by: The Fish on May 07, 2021, 03:07:14 PM
Quote from: rebel on May 07, 2021, 06:42:53 AM
Newcastle play tonight.
We do, but I can't see anything but a comfortable win for the crisp shaggers. We're apparently incapable of playing well against sides who actually put us under pressure. Leicester will see us as the best chance of 3pts in their run-in. Bruce will set us up not-to-lose and then be surprised when we do. As if it's a shock that there's more to defending than simply choosing 5 defenders.

You win your next 2 and the pressure will really be on but, sorry to say, I can't see you winning 4 in a row when you've won 5 all season. Especially as Man Utd aren't yet guaranteed 2nd spot.

I think we'll beat Sheffield, and that'll be enough.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - Newcastle play tonight
Post by: Dodgin on May 07, 2021, 08:36:04 PM
Newcastle 1 up and now 2
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - Newcastle play tonight
Post by: TC's Sporran on May 07, 2021, 08:40:28 PM
Quote from: The Fish on May 07, 2021, 03:07:14 PM
Quote from: rebel on May 07, 2021, 06:42:53 AM
Newcastle play tonight.
We do, but I can't see anything but a comfortable win for the crisp shaggers. We're apparently incapable of playing well against sides who actually put us under pressure. Leicester will see us as the best chance of 3pts in their run-in. Bruce will set us up not-to-lose and then be surprised when we do. As if it's a shock that there's more to defending than simply choosing 5 defenders.

You win your next 2 and the pressure will really be on but, sorry to say, I can't see you winning 4 in a row when you've won 5 all season. Especially as Man Utd aren't yet guaranteed 2nd spot.

I think we'll beat Sheffield, and that'll be enough.

hahaha, such confidence.
not a bruce fan i would wager?
although the game is far from over even at 0-2
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - Newcastle play tonight
Post by: Dodgin on May 07, 2021, 09:24:27 PM
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Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - the rest play this weekend
Post by: rebel on May 08, 2021, 07:49:18 AM
A shock result, but Leicester were pants.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - the rest play this weekend
Post by: Mr White on May 08, 2021, 08:39:26 AM

    I think Newcastle deserves credit they spanked them,now we can look forward
    To a spanking from Burnley.sooner it's over the better.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - the rest play this weekend
Post by: JoelH5 on May 08, 2021, 08:49:24 AM
Lose Monday and we are officially down
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - the rest play this weekend
Post by: rebel on May 08, 2021, 09:02:06 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on May 08, 2021, 08:49:24 AM
Lose Monday and we are officially down

Two different mindsets, Leeds all out football, play to win (they haven't drawn too many), Fulham, play not to lose (drawn too many).   
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - the rest play this weekend
Post by: Mr White on May 08, 2021, 09:35:00 AM


    Yeah and the fact is when we have played to win we're  got good results.
     We hauled our selfs back with positive football , then Parker plays the safe game
     And it's back fired, to negative .
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - the rest play this weekend
Post by: rebel on May 08, 2021, 09:50:57 AM
Quote from: Mr White on May 08, 2021, 09:35:00 AM


    Yeah and the fact is when we have played to win we're  got good results.
     We hauled our selfs back with positive football , then Parker plays the safe game
     And it's back fired, to negative .

Agree 100%. Everton was catalyst, after mini run, we've returned to 'type'.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle and WBA - the rest play this weekend
Post by: rebel on May 09, 2021, 07:30:16 AM
Wolves v Brighton on BBC 1 12.00PM.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle - Wolves V Brighton - BBC -12.00PM
Post by: rebel on May 09, 2021, 02:04:22 PM
Brighton lose and have 2 sent off.
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle - Wolves V Brighton - BBC -12.00PM
Post by: rebel on May 10, 2021, 07:23:12 AM
In the reverse fixtures against the following we've drawn, so they are winnable (just information).

Burnley 1 1 Fulham

Fulham 0 0 Southampton

Newcastle 1 1 Fulham
Title: Re: Fixtures for Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle - WE HAVE TO WIN TONIGHT
Post by: FFC In Oz on May 10, 2021, 08:52:10 AM
Amazing that teams that can score goals pull away from the drop zone.