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Title: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: fcfulham55 on April 18, 2021, 03:37:08 PM
Every contribution he made was incredible! So poor and looked out of his depth.

In all my years of following us since way back in 1999 as a very young lad, I've never seen such a poor peformance from a player coming off the bench.   

Would be interested to to know if anyone can think of a worse substitute to come on for us in the Premier league?
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: FFC In Oz on April 18, 2021, 03:38:34 PM
He has been the most disappointing of all our signings by a long way.

I was so excited to watch him play when the signing was announced.

In hindsight I would have preferred to sign Jason Koumas.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: hongkongfulham on April 18, 2021, 03:39:16 PM
he is awful an his attitude looks worse somehow. No desire to work
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: Bill2 on April 18, 2021, 03:39:25 PM
Listening to the match RLC seemed to do nothing and lost the ball every time he had it. If you wanted a hold up player Mitro is your man. But of Scotty will not have to justify his decision as the ref won't have to for the Arsenal goal.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: Nero on April 18, 2021, 03:39:47 PM
Don't think I've ever seen him sprint, never got with 6 foot of a player
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: Penfold on April 18, 2021, 03:43:11 PM
Thought he was pony after he came on. In the first half of the season people were saying he could be a great asset in the second half of the season. That was revised to a potential great asset in the final third of the season. Well, he's certainly not lived up to those expectations. He's up there with some of my least favourite players.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: Burntheashes on April 18, 2021, 03:44:54 PM
if only mr. Chelsea can hold the ball for even one more second up front in that 7 minutes...
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: Pluto on April 18, 2021, 04:05:48 PM
He's been our worst player week in week out. Absolutely damning combination of lack of ability and lack of effort. No single player has done more to get us relegated this season than this clown.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: Baszab on April 18, 2021, 04:08:58 PM
That would have been a great game with 10 minutes to go to bring on AK
Run around like a lunatic upfront and cause problems while keeping the other 10 men behind the ball

Cannot fathom why he and Kebano were let go - unless they were a bad influence in the dressing room
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: clarkey on April 18, 2021, 04:16:45 PM
So right letting AK and Kebano go when we literally have no one else up front is the height of stupidity.

RLC though....what a terrible sub that was. The other two changes were decent but that was awful from Parker.Mitro would have been better, but Josh was the right call. Could have been a tough enforcer against those Arsenal kids.

Parker has been terrible this year and last season as well to be fair, he just is not a manager. Ditch him now please.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: Twig on April 18, 2021, 04:27:57 PM
RLC = total waste of space.

Why SP hasn't banished him to the furthest reaches of Motspur Pk is beyond me. I had hopes of SP but his persistent use of our worst player diminishes him in my opinion.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: bobbo on April 18, 2021, 04:48:16 PM
Quote from: Twig on April 18, 2021, 04:27:57 PM
RLC = total waste of space.

Why SP hasn't banished him to the furthest reaches of Motspur Pk is beyond me. I had hopes of SP but his persistent use of our worst player diminishes him in my opinion.
it will be written into the loan deal that he has to play X amount of time/games . But I agree he's not interested
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: Bill2 on April 18, 2021, 04:53:06 PM
Quote from: bobbo on April 18, 2021, 04:48:16 PM
Quote from: Twig on April 18, 2021, 04:27:57 PM
RLC = total waste of space.

Why SP hasn't banished him to the furthest reaches of Motspur Pk is beyond me. I had hopes of SP but his persistent use of our worst player diminishes him in my opinion.
it will be written into the loan deal that he has to play X amount of time/games . But I agree he's not interested
Whoever agreed that needs sacking, he is not even fighting for his place.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: colinwhite on April 18, 2021, 04:55:18 PM
RLc was very poor when he came on. Criticising Parker or the team after that performance though is beyond me .
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: grandad on April 18, 2021, 05:27:35 PM
RLC has been a disgrace & an insult to us the whole season. Somebody please tell me what he has contributed over the season. One goal & not a single assist is shocking for a player playing in his important position.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:28:21 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on April 18, 2021, 04:55:18 PM
RLc was very poor when he came on. Criticising Parker or the team after that performance though is beyond me .

Consider me shocked, you find it hard to criticise Parker.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: Beamer on April 18, 2021, 05:35:16 PM
If Parker wants the team to stay behind him he should send RLC to train with the U23s or u21s for the rest of the season. His lack of interest / effort out there today was an insult to his team mates, the manager, the club and the fans.
If Parker plays him again it could be the reason he gets sacked at the end of the season because if he can't see it or is too weak to sort it management isn't the career for him.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: Craven Mad on April 18, 2021, 05:36:22 PM
Honestly thought he was world class when we signed him. Hands up: I was properly wrong.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:37:10 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on April 18, 2021, 05:36:22 PM
Honestly thought he was world class when we signed him. Hands up: I was properly wrong.

Yep, me too. Thought he just needed an arm around his shoulder, to get him back playing to his Palace days......£150k a week. Pants pulled down Chelsea.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on April 18, 2021, 05:40:33 PM
I have tried to see the best in him based on his potential but in recent weeks he's become even worse.

There's no way he is going to suddenly display more quality in the remaining games so what's the point of playing him?

The least that should be done now is to give a couple of youngsters game time.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: Twig on April 18, 2021, 05:41:38 PM
SP is going down in my opinion for persistently playing him. I understand some of Parker's difficulties, we have a poorly assembled, imbalanced squad. But Parker needs to show some cojones, banish RLC to the far corners of Motspur Park and let him languish there.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: ianthailand on April 18, 2021, 05:44:21 PM
Makes Jim Hicks look like Messi.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:44:41 PM
Quote from: Twig on April 18, 2021, 05:41:38 PM
SP is going down in my opinion for persistently playing him. I understand some of Parker's difficulties, we have a poorly assembled, imbalanced squad. But Parker needs to show some cojones, banish RLC to the far corners of Motspur Park and let him languish there.

Before we lay it this entirely to SP, we need to appreciate its likely he's contractually obliged to play him more often than not.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: The Old Count on April 18, 2021, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:44:41 PM
Quote from: Twig on April 18, 2021, 05:41:38 PM
SP is going down in my opinion for persistently playing him. I understand some of Parker's difficulties, we have a poorly assembled, imbalanced squad. But Parker needs to show some cojones, banish RLC to the far corners of Motspur Park and let him languish there.

Before we lay it this entirely to SP, we need to appreciate its likely he's contractually obliged to play him more often than not.
We are not obliged to play him. There is nothing in his contract that stipulates that he must play. It is completely Parker's decision.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:54:42 PM
Quote from: The Old Count on April 18, 2021, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:44:41 PM
Quote from: Twig on April 18, 2021, 05:41:38 PM
SP is going down in my opinion for persistently playing him. I understand some of Parker's difficulties, we have a poorly assembled, imbalanced squad. But Parker needs to show some cojones, banish RLC to the far corners of Motspur Park and let him languish there.

Before we lay it this entirely to SP, we need to appreciate its likely he's contractually obliged to play him more often than not.
We are not obliged to play him. There is nothing in his contract that stipulates that he must play. It is completely Parker's decision.

I'll hold my hands up and say I don't know but do you have proof of that? Source to back it up as I'd be surprised!
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: MJG on April 18, 2021, 06:01:52 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:54:42 PM
Quote from: The Old Count on April 18, 2021, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:44:41 PM
Quote from: Twig on April 18, 2021, 05:41:38 PM
SP is going down in my opinion for persistently playing him. I understand some of Parker's difficulties, we have a poorly assembled, imbalanced squad. But Parker needs to show some cojones, banish RLC to the far corners of Motspur Park and let him languish there.

Before we lay it this entirely to SP, we need to appreciate its likely he's contractually obliged to play him more often than not.
We are not obliged to play him. There is nothing in his contract that stipulates that he must play. It is completely Parker's decision.

I'll hold my hands up and say I don't know but do you have proof of that? Source to back it up as I'd be surprised!
You cannot have something in a contract that says he has to play, it's not allowed in the FA rules.

BUT a club loaning a player can put financial rewards or penalties into a contract with regards their playing time.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 06:03:29 PM
Quote from: MJG on April 18, 2021, 06:01:52 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:54:42 PM
Quote from: The Old Count on April 18, 2021, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:44:41 PM
Quote from: Twig on April 18, 2021, 05:41:38 PM
SP is going down in my opinion for persistently playing him. I understand some of Parker's difficulties, we have a poorly assembled, imbalanced squad. But Parker needs to show some cojones, banish RLC to the far corners of Motspur Park and let him languish there.

Before we lay it this entirely to SP, we need to appreciate its likely he's contractually obliged to play him more often than not.
We are not obliged to play him. There is nothing in his contract that stipulates that he must play. It is completely Parker's decision.

I'll hold my hands up and say I don't know but do you have proof of that? Source to back it up as I'd be surprised!
You cannot have something in a contract that says he has to play, it's not allowed in the FA rules.

BUT a club loaning a player can put financial rewards or penalties into a contract with regards their playing time.

That's new to me! I thought there were appearance clauses.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: Blawarmy on April 18, 2021, 06:51:44 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on April 18, 2021, 03:37:08 PM
Every contribution he made was incredible! So poor and looked out of his depth.

In all my years of following us since way back in 1999 as a very young lad, I've never seen such a poor peformance from a player coming off the bench.   

Would be interested to to know if anyone can think of a worse substitute to come on for us in the Premier league?
He has been spectacularly underwhelming
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: MJG on April 18, 2021, 06:54:47 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 06:03:29 PM
Quote from: MJG on April 18, 2021, 06:01:52 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:54:42 PM
Quote from: The Old Count on April 18, 2021, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:44:41 PM
Quote from: Twig on April 18, 2021, 05:41:38 PM
SP is going down in my opinion for persistently playing him. I understand some of Parker's difficulties, we have a poorly assembled, imbalanced squad. But Parker needs to show some cojones, banish RLC to the far corners of Motspur Park and let him languish there.

Before we lay it this entirely to SP, we need to appreciate its likely he's contractually obliged to play him more often than not.
We are not obliged to play him. There is nothing in his contract that stipulates that he must play. It is completely Parker's decision.

I'll hold my hands up and say I don't know but do you have proof of that? Source to back it up as I'd be surprised!
You cannot have something in a contract that says he has to play, it's not allowed in the FA rules.

BUT a club loaning a player can put financial rewards or penalties into a contract with regards their playing time.

That's new to me! I thought there were appearance clauses.
contracts are fairly standard simple documents but there is a 1page where you can write any old poo on it and of the other club agrees bobs your uncle.
Liverpool were one of first clubs to insert penalties for not paying players.

Normal contracts.. loans and perms....cannot have anything in them that insists a player must start.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 07:10:20 PM
Quote from: MJG on April 18, 2021, 06:54:47 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 06:03:29 PM
Quote from: MJG on April 18, 2021, 06:01:52 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:54:42 PM
Quote from: The Old Count on April 18, 2021, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:44:41 PM
Quote from: Twig on April 18, 2021, 05:41:38 PM
SP is going down in my opinion for persistently playing him. I understand some of Parker's difficulties, we have a poorly assembled, imbalanced squad. But Parker needs to show some cojones, banish RLC to the far corners of Motspur Park and let him languish there.

Before we lay it this entirely to SP, we need to appreciate its likely he's contractually obliged to play him more often than not.
We are not obliged to play him. There is nothing in his contract that stipulates that he must play. It is completely Parker's decision.

I'll hold my hands up and say I don't know but do you have proof of that? Source to back it up as I'd be surprised!
You cannot have something in a contract that says he has to play, it's not allowed in the FA rules.

BUT a club loaning a player can put financial rewards or penalties into a contract with regards their playing time.

That's new to me! I thought there were appearance clauses.
contracts are fairly standard simple documents but there is a 1page where you can write any old poo on it and of the other club agrees bobs your uncle.
Liverpool were one of first clubs to insert penalties for not paying players.

Normal contracts.. loans and perms....cannot have anything in them that insists a player must start.

Fair enough mate. Don't need an excuse to blame Parker now then ha
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: HobGoblin on April 18, 2021, 07:12:41 PM
RLC = Right Load of Crap
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: jarv on April 18, 2021, 07:33:47 PM
RLC....worst signing since.....Frank Large. 064.gif
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: Sgt Fulham on April 18, 2021, 08:06:14 PM
Even if I had no expectations with his signing I would still be underwhelmed. Such a shame.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: SouthIslandWhite on April 18, 2021, 08:51:20 PM
Can't stand one more entitled minute of RLC.

Today as Scott Parker tried to instruct him on his role, RLC just stood there, guarantee that he didn't hear a word from Scotty and looked as though he couldn't be bothered. Pure entitlement.

Done with RLC, send him back to Walham Green.
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: Twig on April 18, 2021, 09:58:10 PM
Quote from: HobGoblin on April 18, 2021, 07:12:41 PM
RLC = Right Load of Crap

Or Really Lazy Chelscum
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: HobGoblin on April 18, 2021, 10:28:12 PM
Quote from: Twig on April 18, 2021, 09:58:10 PM
Quote from: HobGoblin on April 18, 2021, 07:12:41 PM
RLC = Right Load of Crap

Or Really Lazy Chelscum

The guy will no doubt suddenly perk up if he's given a chance to play for them trash
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: Ruislip Ray on April 19, 2021, 07:55:21 AM
Agent Provocateur!
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: HV71 on April 19, 2021, 09:09:42 AM
Quote from: Ruislip Ray on April 19, 2021, 07:55:21 AM
Agent Provocateur!

Aren't they a lingerie company - you are right - he is pants ! And for what it's worth gets on my tits
Title: Re: Lotus Cheek a fraud?
Post by: The Old Count on April 19, 2021, 09:10:49 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 07:10:20 PM
Quote from: MJG on April 18, 2021, 06:54:47 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 06:03:29 PM
Quote from: MJG on April 18, 2021, 06:01:52 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:54:42 PM
Quote from: The Old Count on April 18, 2021, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on April 18, 2021, 05:44:41 PM
Quote from: Twig on April 18, 2021, 05:41:38 PM
SP is going down in my opinion for persistently playing him. I understand some of Parker's difficulties, we have a poorly assembled, imbalanced squad. But Parker needs to show some cojones, banish RLC to the far corners of Motspur Park and let him languish there.

Before we lay it this entirely to SP, we need to appreciate its likely he's contractually obliged to play him more often than not.
We are not obliged to play him. There is nothing in his contract that stipulates that he must play. It is completely Parker's decision.

I'll hold my hands up and say I don't know but do you have proof of that? Source to back it up as I'd be surprised!
You cannot have something in a contract that says he has to play, it's not allowed in the FA rules.

BUT a club loaning a player can put financial rewards or penalties into a contract with regards their playing time.

That's new to me! I thought there were appearance clauses.
contracts are fairly standard simple documents but there is a 1page where you can write any old poo on it and of the other club agrees bobs your uncle.
Liverpool were one of first clubs to insert penalties for not paying players.

Normal contracts.. loans and perms....cannot have anything in them that insists a player must start.

Fair enough mate. Don't need an excuse to blame Parker now then ha
RLC was still shyte yesterday regardless of his contract.