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Title: Howe can we improve..
Post by: ron on May 01, 2021, 09:11:42 PM
......?
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: Mr White on May 02, 2021, 06:10:58 AM

    Stop playing CAV for starters.
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: Phil Stant on May 05, 2021, 10:17:38 PM
Quote from: Mr White on May 02, 2021, 06:10:58 AM

    Stop playing CAV for starters.
I believe a £18m fee and £6ok a week have been quoted for Cav.

Someone got their trousers pulled down there.
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 05, 2021, 10:34:34 PM
Quote from: Phil Stant on May 05, 2021, 10:17:38 PM
Quote from: Mr White on May 02, 2021, 06:10:58 AM

    Stop playing CAV for starters.
I believe a £18m fee and £6ok a week have been quoted for Cav.

Someone got their trousers pulled down there.

I wonder who that amateur was ?
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 06, 2021, 02:42:52 AM
Keep as many players as possible at the club for as long as possible, so players can get to know each other and a group of players becomes a cohesive team over two or three seasons. Play the same team as this season would guarantee promotion in the Championship, and it's decent preparation for the Premier League too. Most importantly, trying to keep the team as similar as possible is a plan our DOF can execute well, as it's mostly about paying players enough money.
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on May 06, 2021, 08:09:21 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 06, 2021, 02:42:52 AM
Keep as many players as possible at the club for as long as possible, so players can get to know each other and a group of players becomes a cohesive team over two or three seasons. Play the same team as this season would guarantee promotion in the Championship, and it's decent preparation for the Premier League too. Most importantly, trying to keep the team as similar as possible is a plan our DOF can execute well, as it's mostly about paying players enough money.

So are you say we will keep all the loan players next season in the Championship?
How's that going to happen them?

But if you mean those on a contract that include the players that failed to perform to the desired level and those that couldn't get in the team you're deluded!
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: rebel on May 06, 2021, 08:22:05 AM
Against Burnley, unleash Anderson, 'long range' everything, play 3 in midfield (defensive), 3 upfront. Essentially by pass midfield. Burnley will be expecting a variant of Parkerball, instead we effectively mirror 'Watford' of the 90's.

Unleash Anderson.
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: SuffolkWhite on May 06, 2021, 08:57:33 AM
Let's be radical, let's play two Strikers at once with wingers that can cross balls in to the box, plus some Anderson balls from the back. Awwww God I sound like big Sam don't I  :Get Coat gif:
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: Southdowns White on May 06, 2021, 09:01:44 AM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on May 06, 2021, 08:57:33 AM
Let's be radical, let's play two Strikers at once with wingers that can cross balls in to the box, plus some Anderson balls from the back. Awwww God I sound like big Sam don't I  :Get Coat gif:
Some people have to take it one step too far don't they!  :005:
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: JoelH5 on May 06, 2021, 09:40:03 AM
Is he still available?
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: ScalleysDad on May 06, 2021, 09:57:05 AM
And we go round again. Howe would he work in the current set up when he has been used to calling most of the shots. Also Howe would he sell his decidedly average track record on big money purchases to his new paymaster to allow him to break the current impasse of who is in control.
Better option than Benitez but unlikely on many levels.
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: Blawarmy on May 06, 2021, 12:41:39 PM
Quote from: Phil Stant on May 05, 2021, 10:17:38 PM
Quote from: Mr White on May 02, 2021, 06:10:58 AM

    Stop playing CAV for starters.
I believe a £18m fee and £6ok a week have been quoted for Cav.

Someone got their trousers pulled down there.
Tucked up like a kipper. Aren't transfer fees Ali Mack's role now?
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: gang on May 06, 2021, 01:08:17 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on May 06, 2021, 09:40:03 AM
Is he still available?


That's what I was wondering, improvement on Parker.
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: filham on May 06, 2021, 06:53:31 PM
Quote from: Phil Stant on May 05, 2021, 10:17:38 PM
Quote from: Mr White on May 02, 2021, 06:10:58 AM

    Stop playing CAV for starters.
I believe a £18m fee and £6ok a week have been quoted for Cav.

Someone got their trousers pulled down there.
A lot of us have been critical of Cav. for a long time but who is going to come and take him away and where is a replacement.
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: BestOfBrede on May 06, 2021, 06:57:51 PM
OP can't spell obviously - it's "How can we improve".
Or trying to be clever but failed miserably as per all Parker outers!
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: JoelH5 on May 06, 2021, 08:33:43 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on May 06, 2021, 06:57:51 PM
OP can't spell obviously - it's "How can we improve".
Or trying to be clever but failed miserably as per all Parker outers!

He didn't fail. People are just too slow to get what OP was alluding to
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: ScalleysDad on May 06, 2021, 08:54:24 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on May 06, 2021, 06:57:51 PM
OP can't spell obviously - it's "How can we improve".
Or trying to be clever but failed miserably as per all Parker outers!



It was sort of cleverish but we still have no idea on how Howe would.
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: BestOfBrede on May 06, 2021, 09:33:20 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on May 06, 2021, 08:33:43 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on May 06, 2021, 06:57:51 PM
OP can't spell obviously - it's "How can we improve".
Or trying to be clever but failed miserably as per all Parker outers!

He didn't fail. People are just too slow to get what OP was alluding to
I saw what he/she was alluding to, hence my response in a sarcastic way!
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: Whitestone on May 06, 2021, 10:18:02 PM
The OP didn't fail but Howe is a failure.
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 06, 2021, 10:44:50 PM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on May 06, 2021, 08:09:21 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 06, 2021, 02:42:52 AM
Keep as many players as possible at the club for as long as possible, so players can get to know each other and a group of players becomes a cohesive team over two or three seasons. Play the same team as this season would guarantee promotion in the Championship, and it's decent preparation for the Premier League too. Most importantly, trying to keep the team as similar as possible is a plan our DOF can execute well, as it's mostly about paying players enough money.

So are you say we will keep all the loan players next season in the Championship?
How's that going to happen them?

But if you mean those on a contract that include the players that failed to perform to the desired level and those that couldn't get in the team you're deluded!

Every player in the squad performed at a certain level. For example, MLM has performed well on loan to justify his spot as our 5th centre back, Betts performed well enough to be our 2nd GK, Knockart performed well enough to be our 2nd right winger, and even KMac might be useful as our 7th midfielder (provided he's prepared to be paid that low). I doubt we can sell those players for much so we keep them.
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: We Are Premier League on May 06, 2021, 11:55:30 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 06, 2021, 10:44:50 PM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on May 06, 2021, 08:09:21 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 06, 2021, 02:42:52 AM
Keep as many players as possible at the club for as long as possible, so players can get to know each other and a group of players becomes a cohesive team over two or three seasons. Play the same team as this season would guarantee promotion in the Championship, and it's decent preparation for the Premier League too. Most importantly, trying to keep the team as similar as possible is a plan our DOF can execute well, as it's mostly about paying players enough money.

So are you say we will keep all the loan players next season in the Championship?
How's that going to happen them?

But if you mean those on a contract that include the players that failed to perform to the desired level and those that couldn't get in the team you're deluded!

Every player in the squad performed at a certain level. For example, MLM has performed well on loan to justify his spot as our 5th centre back, Betts performed well enough to be our 2nd GK, Knockart performed well enough to be our 2nd right winger, and even KMac might be useful as our 7th midfielder (provided he's prepared to be paid that low). I doubt we can sell those players for much so we keep them.

:plus one: Exactly this, no need to buy any squad players. Keep most of the squad adjust add a handful of good players (CM, ACM, RW, SC etc.) 
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: MickTheBeard on May 07, 2021, 12:24:21 AM
By keeping these players in the squad without playing them will financially cripple us better to loan out and sign If possible players out of contract who could do a better job and we might get them on cheaper wages then those failures.But giving kamara a bigger and longer contract that is a big problem.The others let their contracts run out while they are out on loan and don't make damaging mistakes again.Even though this is Tony's stupid way to run a business on kamara a case he asked Scott's advice and said he deserved a better contract,unfortunately Scott hasn't realised he's working for Fulham now safeguarding our future not players wages perhaps it's like his coaching he can't change from defence to attack,from overpriced failures to better and not overpriced players that we get a transfer return which would a big surprise.
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: HobGoblin on May 07, 2021, 12:24:59 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on May 06, 2021, 10:18:02 PM
The OP didn't fail but Howe is a failure.
Howe is a failure? Kept B'mth up through seasons! Parker hasn't kept Fulham up at all.
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: SuffolkWhite on May 07, 2021, 09:44:52 AM
SP is going to need super man management skills to integrate the loan players like Johansen back in to the team. Some players eg Tosin currently 1st team will be ok but the psychology of others returning won't be good will it?
Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 07, 2021, 10:08:25 AM
Quote from: MickTheBeard on May 07, 2021, 12:24:21 AM
By keeping these players in the squad without playing them will financially cripple us better to loan out and sign If possible players out of contract who could do a better job and we might get them on cheaper wages then those failures.But giving kamara a bigger and longer contract that is a big problem.The others let their contracts run out while they are out on loan and don't make damaging mistakes again.Even though this is Tony's stupid way to run a business on kamara a case he asked Scott's advice and said he deserved a better contract,unfortunately Scott hasn't realised he's working for Fulham now safeguarding our future not players wages perhaps it's like his coaching he can't change from defence to attack,from overpriced failures to better and not overpriced players that we get a transfer return which would a big surprise.

Kamara £18k per week and Kebano on £15k per week aren't going to break the bank, compared to either the cost of Areola on £147k per week or the cost of Josh Maja £55k per week including his transfer fee of £5m over two seasons.

Title: Re: Howe can we improve..
Post by: ScalleysDad on May 07, 2021, 10:08:42 AM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on May 07, 2021, 09:44:52 AM
SP is going to need super man management skills to integrate the loan players like Johansen back in to the team. Some players eg Tosin currently 1st team will be ok but the psychology of others returning won't be good will it?


You mention the psychology of the players returning. I think SP was hit with the players psychology hammer as his stint started. I think it was to do with the experience of the Premier League debacle and the season of three managers. Some people are throwing names out there for the SP job but equally some recognise what a massive and almost unprecedented task he has......... again.