Couldn't make it clearer who he blames
Need to make a decision on where the club needs to be
Chose his words very carefully
Fuming over the way the squad was set up
"Break the roller coaster cycle"
Showed great dignity
Says we went up, were relegated, went up and now relegated again and wants to break the cycle. Hope he doesn't mean the going up bit.
Obvious who he is pointing his finger at. I am pleading with Shad Khan to move TK sideways & appoint a real DOF. Let TK concentrate in developing the new stand & its associated revenues.
Exactly what I was thinking....let's not get off it just now Scott!
He was desperate to call out TK there. Might cost him his job but I hope he gets to tell them what he really thinks now.
I have a first hand account of how TK has ruined the squad over the last few years
I would love to post but just can't break confidence
TK out
Please get a proper professional D of F
If Parker is sacked for his interview basically calling out Tony Khan no manager will want to come to us
Quote from: grandad on May 10, 2021, 10:30:12 PM
Obvious who he is pointing his finger at. I am pleading with Shad Khan to move TK sideways & appoint a real DOF. Let TK concentrate in developing the new stand & its associated revenues.
Lets not. Let TK concentrate on wrestling on American football. The person behind developing new stand and it's revenues should be a successful businessman.
I reckon that Scott in 5 or 10 years time would have called him out. I feel he's underplayed his media hand a little bit: he has enough clout to call TK out, and if he got sacked for that he would be treated as a martyr by the fans.
At least I can sit in a shiny new stand for the home game v Peterborough
Quote from: Baszab on May 10, 2021, 10:34:26 PM
I have a first hand account of how TK has ruined the squad over the last few years
I would love to post but just can't break confidence
This is a new line of attack for your latest conspiracy, I'm intrigued.
I wouldn't break confidence
You can choose not to believe
It is my allegation (in case of libel etc) that TK has overruled managers and the scouting team to push his selection of players over other's choices
There is also a lack of planning to the squads in my opinion
But to be honest - that's bleeding obvious
Quote from: Baszab on May 10, 2021, 10:37:28 PM
At least I can sit in a shiny new stand for the home game v Peterborough
you no you won't be on your own there will be thousands of corporate fans around you even in championship ,all the khan's money won't guarantee promotion.
They have ruined the club this is kharma .
Tony Khan. Thanks for the memories there pal. See you at Ipswich away.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on May 10, 2021, 10:37:31 PM
Quote from: Baszab on May 10, 2021, 10:34:26 PM
I have a first hand account of how TK has ruined the squad over the last few years
I would love to post but just can't break confidence
This is a new line of attack for your latest conspiracy, I'm intrigued.
actually i confirm he is correct and he cannot break the confidence and it is up to him if he wishes to expand, but whilst I am great one for conspiracy stuff I we do not lways see eye to eye, for sure BASBAZ is telling it as it is.
well i tought it might just be me but am pleased to say we all heard the same frpm scott.
I am in favour of giving the family a chance if they are qualified. but when they repeatedly fail it is madness.
Quote from: hovewhite on May 10, 2021, 10:45:21 PM
Quote from: Baszab on May 10, 2021, 10:37:28 PM
At least I can sit in a shiny new stand for the home game v Peterborough
you no you won't be on your own there will be thousands of corporate fans around you even in championship ,all the khan's money won't guarantee promotion.
They have ruined the club this is kharma .
Well if there's thousands of corporate fans they'll be paying a lot of money for their seats which will add to our income just like the Japanese fans who came to watch Inamoto.
In reality we need a new DoF and a new manager.
They're both to blame for our predicament
Quote from: ALG01 on May 10, 2021, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on May 10, 2021, 10:37:31 PM
Quote from: Baszab on May 10, 2021, 10:34:26 PM
I have a first hand account of how TK has ruined the squad over the last few years
I would love to post but just can't break confidence
This is a new line of attack for your latest conspiracy, I'm intrigued.
actually i confirm he is correct and he cannot break the confidence and it is up to him if he wishes to expand, but whilst I am great one for conspiracy stuff I we do not lways see eye to eye, for sure BASBAZ is telling it as it is.
Come on guys, your handle hardly says who you are, this sort of post really gets me, you know TONY Khan has done bad things, as do others, but you give no back up, no evidence so how can we take you seriously. If you have something to say, say it, we can then discuss it. If it's true, how are you going to be sued ?
How does having such a bad Dof F square with how badly Scott managed the team in the Championship, playing dire, dull awful football with a really good squad ?
Also how some he allowed some useful players to leave the club, failed to even coach the team to take penalties, free kicks and corners properly and selected an unbalanced and defensive team week after week after week ?
That was all him. Coach he isn't and tactical master he aint. If he spent as long watching how his team played on recordings of previous games as he obviously does selecting his wardrobe then we might have had a chance.
Nobody forced Scott to manage the club. If he didn't like how it was being run from above walk away. Sorry but some of you like a vendetta. As far as I'm concerned relegation is down to Scott. He was inexperienced and needed others around him but there is not a perfect situation at any club. We now need to take it in the chin and move on. Scott now has a bit more experience.
Quote from: ALG01 on May 10, 2021, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on May 10, 2021, 10:37:31 PM
Quote from: Baszab on May 10, 2021, 10:34:26 PM
I have a first hand account of how TK has ruined the squad over the last few years
I would love to post but just can't break confidence
This is a new line of attack for your latest conspiracy, I'm intrigued.
actually i confirm he is correct and he cannot break the confidence and it is up to him if he wishes to expand, but whilst I am great one for conspiracy stuff I we do not lways see eye to eye, for sure BASBAZ is telling it as it is.
He certainly is telling us how it is..except he can't say it so he/she isnt.
Parker was excellent under the circumstances and always presents himself as a top class manager with a future. We will never really know how good or poor he is until he is given the right tools to do the job.
Quote from: The Cravenette on May 10, 2021, 10:27:38 PM
Says we went up, were relegated, went up and now relegated again and wants to break the cycle. Hope he doesn't mean the going up bit.
Yes, shades of Tommy Trinder and the flags on the Riverside Terrace ...
From the end of the window (5 games in?) broadly a good enough team to stay up - GK, defence and largely midfield but lack of incisive strikers and not enough attacking invention coming from midfield. Considering they had no time to bed in, it's remarkable how well the new players did gel for that decent run. Then no proper attacking reinforcement in January.
Excuses: delayed play-off final, FFP, last-minute deals (Anderson, for example).
Solution? Spunk tons of money at it earlier on but, even despite that, there's no doubting the difficulty of bringing PL quality players into a "Championship" team. It seems to be a bit different from the early Mo days when we were on a roll: players and agents have sussed us now.
Is Tigana still happy running his vineyard?
Quote from: ALG01 on May 10, 2021, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on May 10, 2021, 10:37:31 PM
Quote from: Baszab on May 10, 2021, 10:34:26 PM
I have a first hand account of how TK has ruined the squad over the last few years
I would love to post but just can't break confidence
This is a new line of attack for your latest conspiracy, I'm intrigued.
actually i confirm he is correct and he cannot break the confidence and it is up to him if he wishes to expand, but whilst I am great one for conspiracy stuff I we do not lways see eye to eye, for sure BASBAZ is telling it as it is.
I can see where this is going. Are you and Basbaz implying aliens are involved?
Quote from: FulhamStu on May 11, 2021, 07:28:53 AM
Quote from: ALG01 on May 10, 2021, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on May 10, 2021, 10:37:31 PM
Quote from: Baszab on May 10, 2021, 10:34:26 PM
I have a first hand account of how TK has ruined the squad over the last few years
I would love to post but just can't break confidence
This is a new line of attack for your latest conspiracy, I'm intrigued.
actually i confirm he is correct and he cannot break the confidence and it is up to him if he wishes to expand, but whilst I am great one for conspiracy stuff I we do not lways see eye to eye, for sure BASBAZ is telling it as it is.
Come on guys, your handle hardly says who you are, this sort of post really gets me, you know TONY Khan has done bad things, as do others, but you give no back up, no evidence so how can we take you seriously. If you have something to say, say it, we can then discuss it. If it's true, how are you going to be sued ?
You can believe or disbelive that is up to you. However, if you are given information in confidence then you should not betray the source and if you do they will certainly not tell you anything again.
Quote from: 3rdgenfan on May 10, 2021, 10:34:35 PM
If Parker is sacked for his interview basically calling out Tony Khan no manager will want to come to us
And SP will have plenty of opportunity elsewhere. Our blunders have turned us into the feeder club for Spurs (you know, the greatest club in the galaxy, according to their Napoleon complex supporters), and SP would shine there.
What I do not understand is that Mr Kahn Snr has put millions of pounds/dollars into the club, the new stand and the academy plus the players and we very grateful he has; surely he can see that Mr Kahn Jnr is peeing his hard earned money down the drain. He may know a great deal about wrestling and NFL, bit knows diddley squat about soccer (sorry football). Something has to give soon before the club becomes a millstone round his neck.
I think that if we do not get a change of DoF and Tk keeps out of (alleged) interference with team affairs. Parker will walk away
Quote from: ALG01 on May 11, 2021, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: FulhamStu on May 11, 2021, 07:28:53 AM
Quote from: ALG01 on May 10, 2021, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on May 10, 2021, 10:37:31 PM
Quote from: Baszab on May 10, 2021, 10:34:26 PM
I have a first hand account of how TK has ruined the squad over the last few years
I would love to post but just can't break confidence
This is a new line of attack for your latest conspiracy, I'm intrigued.
actually i confirm he is correct and he cannot break the confidence and it is up to him if he wishes to expand, but whilst I am great one for conspiracy stuff I we do not lways see eye to eye, for sure BASBAZ is telling it as it is.
Come on guys, your handle hardly says who you are, this sort of post really gets me, you know TONY Khan has done bad things, as do others, but you give no back up, no evidence so how can we take you seriously. If you have something to say, say it, we can then discuss it. If it's true, how are you going to be sued ?
You can believe or disbelive that is up to you. However, if you are given information in confidence then you should not betray the source and if you do they will certainly not tell you anything again.
This is bullpoo, if you have been told something in confidence why are you making suggestions and implications, surely you should be keeping quiet or are you just trying to wind everyone up. If there is really something Khan has done other than the obvious, multiple jobs, living 3,000 miles away etc which I am very critical of then tell us. Tell us something or keep it to your self.
Also covering/protecting his backside big time,
If Spurs were to come knocking he'd be like "see you"
I don't trust Scott and never have done
My big take away from his interview afterwards, which I think Parker handled very well was not that it was all TONY Khans fault, but that the team lacked quality in certain areas. He clearly pointed to lack of converting our chances and everyone knows we have lacked quality up front and in terms of creativity. I have been led to believe, true or not, that Parker was happy with his striking options and requested significant strengthening at the back. That was achieved via loan and perm signings to the point where I would say this season we had a more than adequate defence. To gain that quality up front would have meant not 7 loans but 11 and that would have been even more laughable. Signing permanent premier ready strikers is just not what promoted teams can afford. So you get Norwich/WBA/Watford/Fulham, good or very good championship teams yoyoing between the divisions. What I think Parker is saying is we have to find a way of breaking that sequence. He is not saying how but clearly thinks we need more quality everywhere so the million dollar question is how to do this without knackering the club within FFP. Less loans, better quality signings, not over spending, and possibly like many of us a high quality 100%, resident DOF, but that bit was not clear and frankly he would never say so publicly anyway.
The other thing we may need by the way is a better coach but that on another thread I think 😳
Quote from: FulhamStu on May 11, 2021, 07:28:53 AM
Come on guys, your handle hardly says who you are, this sort of post really gets me, you know TONY Khan has done bad things, as do others, but you give no back up, no evidence so how can we take you seriously. If you have something to say, say it, we can then discuss it. If it's true, how are you going to be sued ?
I also have some 'evidence' that hasn't been shared with anyone since I have known my source since I was a young man and s/he has never let me down. I cannot share it without corroboration from somewhere else and that simply isn't going to happen. It's surprising how many 'private' conversations are overheard when nobody knows you are there.
Quote from: toshes mate on May 11, 2021, 03:37:51 PM
Quote from: FulhamStu on May 11, 2021, 07:28:53 AM
Come on guys, your handle hardly says who you are, this sort of post really gets me, you know TONY Khan has done bad things, as do others, but you give no back up, no evidence so how can we take you seriously. If you have something to say, say it, we can then discuss it. If it's true, how are you going to be sued ?
I also have some 'evidence' that hasn't been shared with anyone since I have known my source since I was a young man and s/he has never let me down. I cannot share it without corroboration from somewhere else and that simply isn't going to happen. It's surprising how many 'private' conversations are overheard when nobody knows you are there.
Flipping ek, this just get worse. My next door neighbour knows a guy who's married to someone who knows Tony Khan could have signed Ronald for a fiver !
A few years ago, just before the last game of the season v Bolton at home where we won 1-0 I briefly met Shahid Khan. I was being treated to the day in the Chairmans lounge for my 60th birthday and an great day it was. Mr Khan promised me that the new stand would be built. I also met Sarah Brooks who confirmed how good a chairman Shahid was. I came on here and told you. I then got blasted for being a 'Khan man' and talking rubbish and that it would never happen. Fast wind a few years and that great big shiny thing going up by the river tells you that he and she were telling the truth. Coming on here and saying I know something but I am not going to tell you what, is just very very annoying to put it mildly, there are enough wind up merchants that say all sorts of things, this could include all these same insiders, if they do exist, rumour spreaders from within the club who have maybe been doing a crap job and are fed up with their employees telling you a load of rubbish. Or it could be true, but without evidence, how can we take the bloke who has been told by the bloke who heard another person saying something as anything other than just tittle tattle.
Quote from: FulhamStu on May 11, 2021, 03:56:42 PM
A few years ago, just before the last game of the season v Bolton at home where we won 1-0 I briefly met Shahid Khan. I was being treated to the day in the Chairmans lounge for my 60th birthday and an great day it was. Mr Khan promised me that the new stand would be built. I also met Sarah Brooks who confirmed how good a chairman Shahid was. I came on here and told you. I then got blasted for being a 'Khan man' and talking rubbish and that it would never happen. Fast wind a few years and that great big shiny thing going up by the river tells you that he and she were telling the truth. Coming on here and saying I know something but I am not going to tell you what, is just very very annoying to put it mildly, there are enough wind up merchants that say all sorts of things, this could include all these same insiders, if they do exist, rumour spreaders from within the club who have maybe been doing a crap job and are fed up with their employees telling you a load of rubbish. Or it could be true, but without evidence, how can we take the bloke who has been told by the bloke who heard another person saying something as anything other than just tittle tattle.
You asked why people don't repeat stuff and you have been told, and after four repetitions of my post and your meeting with Khan (which is neither here nor there) - what is your point? You asked why people don't repeat stuff and you have been told. Take it or leave it.
Quote from: toshes mate on May 11, 2021, 04:06:30 PM
Quote from: FulhamStu on May 11, 2021, 03:56:42 PM
A few years ago, just before the last game of the season v Bolton at home where we won 1-0 I briefly met Shahid Khan. I was being treated to the day in the Chairmans lounge for my 60th birthday and an great day it was. Mr Khan promised me that the new stand would be built. I also met Sarah Brooks who confirmed how good a chairman Shahid was. I came on here and told you. I then got blasted for being a 'Khan man' and talking rubbish and that it would never happen. Fast wind a few years and that great big shiny thing going up by the river tells you that he and she were telling the truth. Coming on here and saying I know something but I am not going to tell you what, is just very very annoying to put it mildly, there are enough wind up merchants that say all sorts of things, this could include all these same insiders, if they do exist, rumour spreaders from within the club who have maybe been doing a crap job and are fed up with their employees telling you a load of rubbish. Or it could be true, but without evidence, how can we take the bloke who has been told by the bloke who heard another person saying something as anything other than just tittle tattle.
You asked why people don't repeat stuff and you have been told, and after four repetitions of my post and your meeting with Khan (which is neither here nor there) - what is your point? You asked why people don't repeat stuff and you have been told. Take it or leave it.
My point is that I could have come on here and said I met Shahid Khan and he told me something very important but I can't tell you because he told me in confidence. What would have happened then ? Well it would have certainly raised more questions and allowed rumours to go all over the place. Coming on here and saying some source who could be anyone for all I know told you something but not saying what it is helps nobody and is frankly highly unhelpful. We all want the best for Fulham and some of us spend a lot of time thinking and worrying about that, this sort of comment helps nobody, not the club, not the fans, nobody. Does that make sense ? Sorry about the repetitions..
Quote from: Holders on May 11, 2021, 12:22:41 PM
From the end of the window (5 games in?) broadly a good enough team to stay up - GK, defence and largely midfield but lack of incisive strikers and not enough attacking invention coming from midfield. Considering they had no time to bed in, it's remarkable how well the new players did gel for that decent run. Then no proper attacking reinforcement in January.
Excuses: delayed play-off final, FFP, last-minute deals (Anderson, for example).
Solution? Spunk tons of money at it earlier on but, even despite that, there's no doubting the difficulty of bringing PL quality players into a "Championship" team. It seems to be a bit different from the early Mo days when we were on a roll: players and agents have sussed us now.
Is Tigana still happy running his vineyard?
Tigana, now that would be an excellent signing
The question really is how you go from thsi form....
(https://i.ibb.co/g40nhmS/best-run.jpg)
to this form.....
(https://i.ibb.co/wBMwP68/worst-run.jpg)
yes we gave the league a 4 game head start (or 6,8,10 depending on your view) but we reached a point with the Liverpool win where we were within touching distance of gettiung to 17th, we have 4 chances I think and didnt take any of them. I'd like an inquest into that really as 2 months ago many were saying this group of players were great. Something happened after that Liverpool game where we lost something in our makeup. That has to be down to Parker.
Quote from: FulhamStu on May 11, 2021, 04:31:56 PM
My point is that I could have come on here and said I met Shahid Khan and he told me something very important but I can't tell you because he told me in confidence. What would have happened then ? Well it would have certainly raised more questions and allowed rumours to go all over the place. Coming on here and saying some source who could be anyone for all I know told you something but not saying what it is helps nobody and is frankly highly unhelpful. We all want the best for Fulham and some of us spend a lot of time thinking and worrying about that, this sort of comment helps nobody, not the club, not the fans, nobody. Does that make sense ? Sorry about the repetitions..
You couldn't name Khan as your source in your example because that is what breach a confidence can blight and that is what people are saying. And the content of the message the person may reveal the source which means it will turn into 'he said, she said' and the festering nonsense we saw in the CK litigation and the damage people can do to others.
I guarantee that IF we had a good manager like Bielsa for example this current squad would not be getting relegated,
Parker's full of excuses and blaming others cos he wants to keep working, End of
He's not to be trusted
And as far as recruitment goes Parker always claimed to be very hands on alongside TK
Me personally I can't bare to watch another season of his boring football
Quote from: toshes mate on May 11, 2021, 04:52:11 PM
Quote from: FulhamStu on May 11, 2021, 04:31:56 PM
My point is that I could have come on here and said I met Shahid Khan and he told me something very important but I can't tell you because he told me in confidence. What would have happened then ? Well it would have certainly raised more questions and allowed rumours to go all over the place. Coming on here and saying some source who could be anyone for all I know told you something but not saying what it is helps nobody and is frankly highly unhelpful. We all want the best for Fulham and some of us spend a lot of time thinking and worrying about that, this sort of comment helps nobody, not the club, not the fans, nobody. Does that make sense ? Sorry about the repetitions..
You couldn't name Khan as your source in your example because that is what breach a confidence can blight and that is what people are saying. And the content of the message the person may reveal the source which means it will turn into 'he said, she said' and the festering nonsense we saw in the CK litigation and the damage people can do to others.
Rubbish, I reported what I had been told by who and what was told to me. I then got many posters on here saying I was a Khan apologist and it would still never happen, or that I made it up. As it happened what I was told has come to pass. Your contacts may be just trouble stirring for all sorts of reasons or telling the truth, if you can tell us what it is they are saying then say nothing. If you can't see the difference then so be it, I will give you the last word.
Quote from: The Cravenette on May 11, 2021, 04:39:24 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 11, 2021, 12:22:41 PM
From the end of the window (5 games in?) broadly a good enough team to stay up - GK, defence and largely midfield but lack of incisive strikers and not enough attacking invention coming from midfield. Considering they had no time to bed in, it's remarkable how well the new players did gel for that decent run. Then no proper attacking reinforcement in January.
Excuses: delayed play-off final, FFP, last-minute deals (Anderson, for example).
Solution? Spunk tons of money at it earlier on but, even despite that, there's no doubting the difficulty of bringing PL quality players into a "Championship" team. It seems to be a bit different from the early Mo days when we were on a roll: players and agents have sussed us now.
Is Tigana still happy running his vineyard?
Tigana, now that would be an excellent signing
As you probably realised, that was tongue in cheek, Tigana's probably been out of the game too long now - but you get the point. There must be a Tigana equivalent somewhere who's highly respected and who would attract better players. He also played the best football I've ever seen from Fulham.
Quote from: FulhamStu on May 11, 2021, 03:45:20 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on May 11, 2021, 03:37:51 PM
Quote from: FulhamStu on May 11, 2021, 07:28:53 AM
Come on guys, your handle hardly says who you are, this sort of post really gets me, you know TONY Khan has done bad things, as do others, but you give no back up, no evidence so how can we take you seriously. If you have something to say, say it, we can then discuss it. If it's true, how are you going to be sued ?
I also have some 'evidence' that hasn't been shared with anyone since I have known my source since I was a young man and s/he has never let me down. I cannot share it without corroboration from somewhere else and that simply isn't going to happen. It's surprising how many 'private' conversations are overheard when nobody knows you are there.
Flipping ek, this just get worse. My next door neighbour knows a guy who's married to someone who knows Tony Khan could have signed Ronald for a fiver !
Ronald? Is that Ronald McDonald?