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Title: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Allestree andy on May 11, 2021, 12:52:28 PM
Aleksandar Mitrovic is unlikely to want to stay at Fulham if Scott Parker remains in charge next season, according to The Athletic.

Mitrovic was the Championship's top goalscorer last season as he helped Fulham to get promoted back to the Premier League last season.

But their defeat to Burnley on Monday night confirmed that they will be playing in the second tier again in the 2021/22 campaign after suffering relegation from the Premier League.

But Mitrovic might not be part of the team when Fulham take to the pitch in the Championship in the first game next season.

It has been claimed that the striker is unhappy at the club and will likely push to leave if Parker remains the Fulham manager.

The 26-year-old has been sparingly used this season despite Fulham's problem with scoring goals and more than half of his 26 Premier League appearances came from the bench.

Mitrovic is prepared to move on from Fulham if Parker decides to continue as manager at Craven Cottage.

though please who would you rather lose?
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: ron on May 11, 2021, 01:07:39 PM
Both. It seems a common answer on threads today.

If Mitro is "not happy" as reported, he has no use or place here.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: river phoenix on May 11, 2021, 01:11:16 PM
We will see how hard is to find a striker who can score 20+ goals a year next season without Mitro. He was criminally underused by Scott Parker.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: The Rock on May 11, 2021, 01:15:39 PM
It's a tough one. Like the club as a whole, he's may be too good for the Championship, but not good enough for the PL. But I actually think with service he can shine and would be successful in the PL, but he's never had that kind of support with us like he has had with country. I think he would do well at the right club like in a Crystal Palace system under Roy where Zaha and the wingers can play around him as a target man.

To stay on point, if he wants to move on, the fee we should receive should buy a like quality striker, but would be happy to see him stay if improvements are made elsewhere.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: First State on May 11, 2021, 01:21:17 PM
It obvious to me that a new chapter must be started. To that end, both must go.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: jayffc on May 11, 2021, 01:25:20 PM
Yeh, no
Parker out,
Championship top scorer to stay.

Bring in someone who understands how to use him properly, yes I'm looking at you Slav.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Sammyffc on May 11, 2021, 01:37:36 PM
who in their right mind would keep scott over mitro for the championship ?
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Deeping_white on May 11, 2021, 01:41:07 PM
Keep Mitro and bin Parker if it's a straight choice. Mitro bailed him out last season from his insipid tactics, and he made top tier championship players regress in their first season under him (BDR, Knockaert, Cav) and turned what should've been a rolls royce front three + BDR as a #10 into a borefest via inverted wingers.

With a proper manager who knows how to get the best out of his players we should win the Championship - if we had Bielsa instead of Parker (for example) it would be a turkey shoot
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: WORTHINGFULHAM on May 11, 2021, 02:21:35 PM
I like mitro, but if you look at a few things you soon realise that he is not the be all and end all. Good championship player but yet again struggled in the premiership,.very slugish, no pace and gets fustrated easy and goes rougue from time to time. Compare him to saha, and i would take saha all day long, pace, agility, technique. We need to improve our attacking options, from midfielders to strikers, keep.mitro then give him a permanent partner up top, if we use 1 striker then sell him and get someine a bit more athletic.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: FFC In Oz on May 11, 2021, 02:43:31 PM
I would 100% rather keep Mitro than Parker if it were a choice between the two.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Sgt Fulham on May 11, 2021, 04:46:02 PM
Love Mitro, and may be crazy, but we need to start a new chapter. Mitro can get us to the Premier League, but can't keep us there.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: toshes mate on May 11, 2021, 05:02:27 PM
Mitro has already demonstrated he can score goals.  All Parker has done over the past two years is frustrate and titillate in irritating cycles of confusion.  He hasn't really shown any penchant for exciting and entertaining football and has not improved one single player in the present squad.   Mitro can stay but Parker must go.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: YankeeJim on May 11, 2021, 05:12:15 PM
Few strikers would thrive in all attack set ups. Mitro has more limits than he has talents. Exceptional in the air but plodding in pace. In the right setup he'd thrive. You all seem to forget that he won the Golden Boot last year under Parker. The problem with this team all this season is not Mitro or even BDR  & Cav, but a transition from the back to the front. Parker regularly started two defensive mids and sometimes three because he didn't have any attacking mids. Carney, while probably too one footed to be a star Prem attacker at least could do a few things. The alternatives  were either simply not good enough when not injured like Onomah or a pathetic excuse for a footballer like RLC.
Had we a healthy Carney, Mitro would have hit double figures in goals and the team would have been comfortably lower mid table. Having that ability would alleviate the need to have the back line in the center circle trying to create which would have made us less prone to having a center back defending on the run for 40 yards against a quicker and better ball handing attacker such as their first yesterday.
Parker had two options this season, play ping pong waiting for a defender to trip or play long ball all the time. I can't imagine the excessive noise on these threads had we become a Tony Pulis team.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: davew on May 11, 2021, 05:22:01 PM
Quote from: Fightin' Blue Hens on May 11, 2021, 01:21:17 PM
It obvious to me that a new chapter must be started. To that end, both must go.
+1
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: GrumpyWhite on May 11, 2021, 05:24:59 PM
Would get rid of both.

But if it was one or the other I would choose Mitro
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Blawarmy on May 11, 2021, 05:40:27 PM
We need another Serb international to create his chances
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Hugh Gentry on May 11, 2021, 05:46:09 PM
Quote from: WORTHINGFULHAM on May 11, 2021, 02:21:35 PM
I like mitro, but if you look at a few things you soon realise that he is not the be all and end all. Good championship player but yet again struggled in the premiership,.very slugish, no pace and gets fustrated easy and goes rougue from time to time. Compare him to saha, and i would take saha all day long, pace, agility, technique. We need to improve our attacking options, from midfielders to strikers, keep.mitro then give him a permanent partner up top, if we use 1 striker then sell him and get someine a bit more athletic.
I can't believe you really think that Parker is the "be all and end all" do you?
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Bill2 on May 11, 2021, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on May 11, 2021, 05:12:15 PM
Few strikers would thrive in all attack set ups. Mitro has more limits than he has talents. Exceptional in the air but plodding in pace. In the right setup he'd thrive. You all seem to forget that he won the Golden Boot last year under Parker. The problem with this team all this season is not Mitro or even BDR  & Cav, but a transition from the back to the front. Parker regularly started two defensive mids and sometimes three because he didn't have any attacking mids. Carney, while probably too one footed to be a star Prem attacker at least could do a few things. The alternatives  were either simply not good enough when not injured like Onomah or a pathetic excuse for a footballer like RLC.
Had we a healthy Carney, Mitro would have hit double figures in goals and the team would have been comfortably lower mid table. Having that ability would alleviate the need to have the back line in the center circle trying to create which would have made us less prone to having a center back defending on the run for 40 yards against a quicker and better ball handing attacker such as their first yesterday.
Parker had two options this season, play ping pong waiting for a defender to trip or play long ball all the time. I can't imagine the excessive noise on these threads had we become a Tony Pulis team.
Jim, very good analysis the problem is about having a Number 10 who can play out from midfield and create space for the forwards, something our current contingent can't and can also pop up with a few goals. We are far to slow in bringing the ball forward our current crop set to want to pass the ball back instead of driving ti forward.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: I Ronic on May 11, 2021, 08:24:33 PM
I didn't see anybody making an effort to give him the ball last night.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Nero on May 11, 2021, 08:28:08 PM
20+ goals strikers are hard to come by, bang average Managers are 2 a penny
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: blingo on May 11, 2021, 08:49:26 PM
Keep Mitro, send Parker packing.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: filham on May 11, 2021, 09:52:06 PM
I think Parker will be staying and want to offload Mitro, essential we get good money for him at an early stage and then if Brentford fail to get promoted we should put in an offer for their most successful striker.
I always liked Mitro but now think it best for him and us that he moves on.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Andy S on May 11, 2021, 10:00:23 PM
For me it is Parker out Mitro in. I think a decent manager would be easier to find than replace Mitro
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Steven Ageroad on May 11, 2021, 10:28:00 PM
All you Mitro fans want him to stay, we're back in the Championship, he won't to stay because he thinks he's better than little old FFC. He'll probably move abroad as all the premier league sides know his limitations just as Benitez did.
You might say that he scored 5 goals in recent international games but if you look those teams they were lower ranked international sides whose defences were the equivalent to Championship sides.
Parker in to keep stability but give him till Christmas.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Asotosyios on May 11, 2021, 10:55:39 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on May 11, 2021, 10:28:00 PM
All you Mitro fans want him to stay, we're back in the Championship, he won't to stay because he thinks he's better than little old FFC. He'll probably move abroad as all the premier league sides know his limitations just as Benitez did.
You might say that he scored 5 goals in recent international games but if you look those teams they were lower ranked international sides whose defences were the equivalent to Championship sides.
Parker in to keep stability but give him till Christmas.

A few notes/questions for you:
- We are not Mitro fans, we are first and foremost Fulham fans.
- We love Mitro because of what he has done for Fulham (a lot more than Parker, in my opinion) - we don't have to apologize for this.
- Mitrovic will leave not because he thinks he's better than Fulham, but because he is not wanted and appreciated by his current manager. If he thought he was better than Fulham, he would have left two years ago. He stayed and led us to promotion by scoring 26 goals - not sure if you missed that.
- Why give Parker only till Christmas? Don't we need stability after that?
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: The Rational Fan on May 11, 2021, 10:59:56 PM
Quote from: Nero on May 11, 2021, 08:28:08 PM
20+ goals strikers are hard to come by, bang average Managers are 2 a penny

True, but we can get £25m for Mitrovic and couldn't sell Parker for £1m. If Mitrovic can score a few more goals this season, then he might get a value worthy of cashing in.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: FulhamStu on May 12, 2021, 08:48:05 AM
It's all about style of football.  If we play fast counter attack football Mitro is not the player.  If we play keep ball then a hold up player like Mitro is better.  Would you prefer Mitro to Armstrong from Blackburn and fast attacking football or possession football ?
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: toshes mate on May 12, 2021, 09:09:18 AM
Mitro is not the problem.  Parker is the problem.  TK is the problem.  Jokanovic utilised Mitro straight away.  The struggles in the PL were elsewhere on the pitch just as they have been this season.  Get real you people and stop fawning after our owners.
   
Make Mitro the problem at your peril because our record under the Khans suggests you must be gullible fools to believe the Khans know what they are about when it comes to recruiting anyone.  They struck lucky with Jokanovic.  They struck lucky with Mitrovic.  Parker struck lucky with the play offs.  Luck happens but figure out how and why someone like Roy Hodgson can ride their 'luck' at clubs like Fulham and Palace regardless.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: hovewhite on May 12, 2021, 11:27:13 AM
Get rid of mitro Hes got a contract keep him as priceless next season to going back up.scott had him playing last season,sell him end of next season as not premier League standard,3 cracks at it now not at the level championship yes that's proven
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Jims Dentist on May 12, 2021, 12:03:33 PM
Lets not forget that in the second half of our last promotion season we got better results when Mitro was not playing, particulalry after lockdown.

If he wants to go, given his wages and what fee we might get for him, it may be wise to let him go?
Also SP (like many other coaches nowadays) does not seem to want to play with a "target man", although it would be wise to have one in the squad as another attacking option (someone like Michael Smith of Rotherham).
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Brawn on May 12, 2021, 04:04:39 PM
I feel there's a lot of having cake and eating it here. Has it occurred to anyone that he was top scorer in the Championship UNDER Parker?
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: FFC In Oz on May 12, 2021, 04:13:15 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 11, 2021, 10:59:56 PM
Quote from: Nero on May 11, 2021, 08:28:08 PM
20+ goals strikers are hard to come by, bang average Managers are 2 a penny

True, but we can get £25m for Mitrovic and couldn't sell Parker for £1m. If Mitrovic can score a few more goals this season, then he might get a value worthy of cashing in.

Do you think we can realistically get 25m for Mitro?

I'd be thinking we might get closer to 15m given his form
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: LittleErn on May 12, 2021, 04:31:41 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on May 12, 2021, 09:09:18 AM
Mitro is not the problem.  Parker is the problem.  TK is the problem.  Jokanovic utilised Mitro straight away.  The struggles in the PL were elsewhere on the pitch just as they have been this season.  Get real you people and stop fawning after our owners.
   
Make Mitro the problem at your peril because our record under the Khans suggests you must be gullible fools to believe the Khans know what they are about when it comes to recruiting anyone.  They struck lucky with Jokanovic.  They struck lucky with Mitrovic.  Parker struck lucky with the play offs.  Luck happens but figure out how and why someone like Roy Hodgson can ride their 'luck' at clubs like Fulham and Palace regardless.

You do sometimes talk some "tosh" tosh!
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: blingo on May 12, 2021, 04:41:49 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on May 12, 2021, 04:31:41 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on May 12, 2021, 09:09:18 AM
Mitro is not the problem.  Parker is the problem.  TK is the problem.  Jokanovic utilised Mitro straight away.  The struggles in the PL were elsewhere on the pitch just as they have been this season.  Get real you people and stop fawning after our owners.
   
Make Mitro the problem at your peril because our record under the Khans suggests you must be gullible fools to believe the Khans know what they are about when it comes to recruiting anyone.  They struck lucky with Jokanovic.  They struck lucky with Mitrovic.  Parker struck lucky with the play offs.  Luck happens but figure out how and why someone like Roy Hodgson can ride their 'luck' at clubs like Fulham and Palace regardless.

You do sometimes talk some "tosh" tosh!
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I agree totally with what Tosh has posted.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: LittleErn on May 12, 2021, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: blingo on May 12, 2021, 04:41:49 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on May 12, 2021, 04:31:41 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on May 12, 2021, 09:09:18 AM
Mitro is not the problem.  Parker is the problem.  TK is the problem.  Jokanovic utilised Mitro straight away.  The struggles in the PL were elsewhere on the pitch just as they have been this season.  Get real you people and stop fawning after our owners.
   
Make Mitro the problem at your peril because our record under the Khans suggests you must be gullible fools to believe the Khans know what they are about when it comes to recruiting anyone.  They struck lucky with Jokanovic.  They struck lucky with Mitrovic.  Parker struck lucky with the play offs.  Luck happens but figure out how and why someone like Roy Hodgson can ride their 'luck' at clubs like Fulham and Palace regardless.

You do sometimes talk some "tosh" tosh!
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I agree totally with what Tosh has posted.

So do I up to a point. The "tosh" is how he says it. "Fawning"? Really?  "at your peril" -over dramatic. "gullible fools" - because they disagree with you?
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Lordedmundo on May 12, 2021, 05:04:19 PM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on May 12, 2021, 04:13:15 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 11, 2021, 10:59:56 PM
Quote from: Nero on May 11, 2021, 08:28:08 PM
20+ goals strikers are hard to come by, bang average Managers are 2 a penny

True, but we can get £25m for Mitrovic and couldn't sell Parker for £1m. If Mitrovic can score a few more goals this season, then he might get a value worthy of cashing in.

Do you think we can realistically get 25m for Mitro?

I'd be thinking we might get closer to 15m given his form

In terms of his age - he is at his peak and still has 2 years plus in his contract. So, I think we would get £20m plus for him. Although I would happy with Parker leaving as well, it probably is time to let Mitro move on...
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on May 12, 2021, 05:39:11 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on May 12, 2021, 04:31:41 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on May 12, 2021, 09:09:18 AM
Mitro is not the problem.  Parker is the problem.  TK is the problem.  Jokanovic utilised Mitro straight away.  The struggles in the PL were elsewhere on the pitch just as they have been this season.  Get real you people and stop fawning after our owners.
   
Make Mitro the problem at your peril because our record under the Khans suggests you must be gullible fools to believe the Khans know what they are about when it comes to recruiting anyone.  They struck lucky with Jokanovic.  They struck lucky with Mitrovic.  Parker struck lucky with the play offs.  Luck happens but figure out how and why someone like Roy Hodgson can ride their 'luck' at clubs like Fulham and Palace regardless.

You do sometimes talk some "tosh" tosh!

I side with Tosh on this one, especially regarding the Khans, more so the fault lies with Junior Khan, but senior Khan has to take responsibility also. At the moment is Mitro suffering from battle fatigue I ask myself. Every Manager they have employed they have sacked apart from Scott Parker so far.
They treated Slavisa with little respect, especially as he was the qualified professional and they were the unqualified amateurs with poor judgment regarding football matters bordering on incompetence and negligence not forgetting inefficiency.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: grandad on May 12, 2021, 06:34:42 PM
Keep both, get shot of TK as DOF, all will then be honky dory.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on May 12, 2021, 06:35:59 PM
Its a 50 /50 for me because if we got rid of Parker and replaced him with Beneitez or howe would they get more out of him .

I would cash in provided we use the money on two good stikers that can score in the championship with the abilty to improve in the premier league foe example ollie watkins but then you would need a manager to get the best out of them and that is Parker
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on May 12, 2021, 06:36:28 PM
Isn't parker
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: RufusBrevettatemyhamster on May 12, 2021, 06:59:16 PM
Let me get it out from the start. I love Mitro and we all know he can bang in goals in the championship, when we play to his strengths.
However, and this is important, I think its time for him to love on and we use the money to bring in a forward with more mobility. Mitro has the turning circle of the Titanic in its current condition. He wasn't played by Parker for whatever reason and we should all cut our losses.
There needs to be a big clear out of players. If TK wants to price his worth, he needs to change a hell of a lot and make some serious investment.
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: 3 Cherries on May 12, 2021, 07:18:48 PM
stating the bloody obvious
Title: Re: Fulham Star Likely To Demand Move Away If Scott Parker Stays In Charge
Post by: Pluto on May 12, 2021, 08:04:51 PM
I'm struggling to see any qualities Parker has or any value he has demonstrated that would lead us to choose him over an international quality striker who was top scorer in the exact league we are about to play in less than 12 months ago.