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Title: Tim Ream
Post by: WindyCity on June 05, 2021, 06:47:41 PM
Associated Press reporting Ream has signed new deal to stay at FFC.  Didn't give details as to how long or for how much his deal is.  So, I guess he's in the team for upcoming season.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: Dunstable Fulham on June 05, 2021, 08:38:51 PM
Good squad player. Loads of experience- great with the other players - a good person to have around the place. Treated poorly by Parker during the season in my view. He deserves a new short term deal.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: alfie on June 05, 2021, 09:43:57 PM
Quote from: Dunstable Fulham on June 05, 2021, 08:38:51 PM
Good squad player. Loads of experience- great with the other players - a good person to have around the place. Treated poorly by Parker during the season in my view. He deserves a new short term deal.
Excuse me Mr Dunstable but how was he treated poorly, should he have played instead of Andersen or Tosin?
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: The Swan on June 05, 2021, 09:52:26 PM
I agree with alfie. Ream did not deserve a place in the team ahead of the other two,
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: Arthur on June 05, 2021, 10:30:44 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on June 05, 2021, 06:47:41 PM
So, I guess he's in the team for upcoming season.

He may be in the team, but it cannot be presumed. All that can be inferred is that he will be in the squad of 25.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: AJW48361 on June 05, 2021, 10:38:03 PM
Tim Ream top pro well worth a new contract. Dennis.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: Somerset Fulham on June 05, 2021, 10:48:23 PM
I don't get the dislike for Ream on here.

Sure he may be out of his depth in the Premier League, but that's not his fault.  He's been a fantastic servant for the club and very capable at the level we currently find ourselves.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: HobGoblin on June 05, 2021, 11:10:26 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on June 05, 2021, 10:48:23 PM
I don't get the dislike for Ream on here.

Sure he may be out of his depth in the Premier League, but that's not his fault.  He's been a fantastic servant for the club and very capable at the level we currently find ourselves.

Disagree,was found wanting many times last promotion push with poor passing out from defence. Another 2 seasons later can expect the same if not worse.
As much as he has been a good servant for the club we need to look to replace him in the side for a fresh way ahead. Not just him mind, others need to be moved on too.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: Andy S on June 06, 2021, 12:39:14 AM
You don't need to move players on until you have found the right players to replace them. You need squad players as well. Players that are older who will not play every week but still capable of doing a job
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: RaySmith on June 06, 2021, 04:23:48 AM
At the start of the season alongside Hector, Ream looked by far the most composed of the two, then a couple of weeks ago, at Man U, he did well, with Tosin.

So, a good squad player for the Champ., at least.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: Whitestone on June 06, 2021, 08:36:52 AM
I really hope the days of Ream, Odoi and Le Marchand as regulars are gone because if they are not we will struggle for clean sheets. I have similar concerns if Hector plays regularly too. We are fortunate to have better players in the squad. Just need to get Kongolo fit and play him alongside Tosin who we simply mustn't sell this summer.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: alfie on June 06, 2021, 09:05:24 AM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on June 05, 2021, 10:48:23 PM
I don't get the dislike for Ream on here.

Sure he may be out of his depth in the Premier League, but that's not his fault.  He's been a fantastic servant for the club and very capable at the level we currently find ourselves.
It's not a dislike for him personally, he is just past his best, I have always been a Ream follower, but there comes a time when we all have to move on.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: Statto on June 06, 2021, 09:29:33 AM
Quote from: Arthur on June 05, 2021, 10:30:44 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on June 05, 2021, 06:47:41 PM
So, I guess he's in the team for upcoming season.

He may be in the team, but it cannot be presumed. All that can be inferred is that he will be in the squad of 25.

I wouldn't even infer that necessarily
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: HV71 on June 06, 2021, 11:53:51 AM
Quote from: alfie on June 06, 2021, 09:05:24 AM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on June 05, 2021, 10:48:23 PM
I don't get the dislike for Ream on here.

Sure he may be out of his depth in the Premier League, but that's not his fault.  He's been a fantastic servant for the club and very capable at the level we currently find ourselves.
It's not a dislike for him personally, he is just past his best, I have always been a Ream follower, but there comes a time when we all have to move on.

+1 Alfie spot on
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: hovewhite on June 06, 2021, 11:58:50 AM
Kongolo to get fit.hes a sick note waiting to happen,team at least is always available to play and gives his all.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: Whitestone on June 06, 2021, 01:14:27 PM
There is no dislike for Tim Ream just a variety of opinions about his performances and whether he should get regular game time next season.

He had an excellent season the year we went up with Slav but that was three years ago and it has been widely acknowledged that we needed an upgrade in the centre back department ever since that disastrous first season back in the Prem.

Ream may be regularly available and he may give his all but most players do. Those traits alone aren't enough which is why it is time to find a regular permanent partner for Tosin that isn't one of the old guard who we know aren't good enough for an ambitious team like Fulham.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: Statto on June 06, 2021, 05:23:25 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on June 06, 2021, 01:14:27 PM
Ream may be regularly available and he may give his all but most players do. Those traits alone aren't enough which is why it is time to find a regular permanent partner for Tosin that isn't one of the old guard who we know aren't good enough for an ambitious team like Fulham.

Hector, surely

Don't actually think there's much between Hector and Tosin in terms of ability
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: Colton F.C. on June 06, 2021, 05:40:53 PM
A three legged Kongolo/Mawson would be my pick.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: BarryP on June 06, 2021, 07:04:53 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 06, 2021, 05:23:25 PM

Hector, surely

Don't actually think there's much between Hector and Tosin in terms of ability

I think you have a Hector blind spot if you're trying to compare him to Tosin.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: filham on June 06, 2021, 07:16:27 PM
Tim Ream is a favourite of mine, I think he has played some very good matches and served us well. However I am not sure that at this point in his career he is the man to lead a promotion push.
Also we have a lot of players to cover the two center back positions, what is the pecking order.
Tosin, Ream, Hector. Kongola, Mawson, Odoi, not room for all of those in our first team squad.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: Dr Quinzel on June 07, 2021, 02:42:17 PM
Did the club not report it as a club option, ie an extension, rather than a new contract as such? It's less a reward, and more the club operating somewhat sensibly?
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 09, 2021, 02:28:05 AM
Quote from: Statto on June 06, 2021, 05:23:25 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on June 06, 2021, 01:14:27 PM
Ream may be regularly available and he may give his all but most players do. Those traits alone aren't enough which is why it is time to find a regular permanent partner for Tosin that isn't one of the old guard who we know aren't good enough for an ambitious team like Fulham.

Hector, surely

Don't actually think there's much between Hector and Tosin in terms of ability

I think our best centre backs are Tosin, Hector, Mawson and Kongolo, but I think all four will be fit for half dozen games next season and potential at least three will injuried for a dozen games next season.

MLM, Ream and Odoi are much needed squad players, especially if Parker wants to close out games with three-four CBs. We need three centre backs as good or netter than Ream in every matchday 18 next season. In addition, if there are injuries in midfielder or full backs, we may need to start with three CBs.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: SouthIslandWhite on June 09, 2021, 02:32:56 AM
If this is true, its good news for Fulham. Ream is quality and will do well in the Championship.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: hongkongfulham on June 09, 2021, 05:12:59 AM
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on June 09, 2021, 02:32:56 AM
If this is true, its good news for Fulham. Ream is quality and will do well in the Championship.

If we are on top of teams he does well as his distribution is good, and his one or brain farts a game dont usually get punished. Hope he isnt first choice though...
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: RaySmith on June 09, 2021, 05:48:15 AM
A model pro.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: toshes mate on June 09, 2021, 08:39:12 AM
With Andersen gone we will see just how important he was to our defence.  You do not miss things until they are gone.  It'll be a severe test for those left behind and, as always, I'll try to judge players on performances in real time and not on fanciful (and often false) memories.  It is far too easy to have scapegoats for everything and anything in this day and age.  Real life gets played out once and once only and the if only's pile up minute after minute.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: hovewhite on June 10, 2021, 07:18:32 AM
A great pro.always performs ideal for championship.
Title: Re: Tim Ream
Post by: The Rational Fan on June 10, 2021, 08:05:16 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 09, 2021, 08:39:12 AM
With Andersen gone we will see just how important he was to our defense.  You do not miss things until they are gone.  It'll be a severe test for those left behind and, as always, I'll try to judge players on performances in real-time and not on fanciful (and often false) memories.  It is far too easy to have scapegoats for everything and anything in this day and age.  Real-life gets played out once and once only and the if only's pile up a minute after minute.

We started the first half of 2019/20 with Mawson and Ream partnership, both top players in my opinion, but a pretty terrible partnership both having a lack of height and lack of pace. Mawson with his good ball distribution is wasted next to Ream with his excellent ball distribution, both next to Tosin or Kongolo would look much better.

The weakness of the Mawson/Ream partnership was especially noticeable against counter-attacking teams were moving the ball from defensive to attack didn't require much skill (as they already got back) which those two had, but stopping a counter-attack once started was extremely difficult and something both of them didn't have, to make matter worse Bryan often got caught out of position too far up the field unable to support them.

Next season we have a number of potential partners that are better than Mawson/Ream, including Tosin with anyone of five CBs, Kongolo with anyone of four CBs, Hector/Ream,  and Mawson with anyone faster than Ream. In addition, if Ream or Mawson are playing, having a left full-back as fast as Robinson will help significantly with support and even if Bryan is playing another full-back that can get forward would help him get less targeted.