Chelsea complete signing of former Fulham goalkeeper Marcus Bettinelli..
Bettinelli told the club website: "It's always been a special club. I know the area very well so it's been a dream of mine to come over to this side and it's finally happened. There were some talks a few years ago when I was a bit younger and for whatever reason that didn't come about but I'm here now.
Remember where you came from..
Blimey you can go off some people quickly
Oh well who cares. Obviously signing for the European club champions would be a dream for Betts. If that's not clear then you're kidding yourself.
Wonder how much he has been stewing that he didn't get his "dream move" back then. Making up homegrown spots for chelsea is apparently a big honour.
£20k a week for bench warming sounds too good to turn down. Perhaps the odd friendly or League Cup appearance to look forward to.
He'll be playing less football for them, than he did for us
Dreams of a payday
Although I love the club I have come from I wanted a payday and a chance to play reserve football and with luck the odd cup game said new signing Bettyoubygollywow.
What else was he expected to say. Good luck to hum.
As far as I'm concerned Betts is the one player who owes absolutely zero to this club.
His dad is the GK coach, he's been with us through all the academy stages and his whole life (through his dad) has been defined by this club.
Not only that but he's not once kicked his toys out of the pram or kicked up a fuss going through being a first team starter to losing his place and being shipped out to Boro.
On top of all of that we as a club gave him no clarity on his contract and let it run down, which he mentioned in a interview post being released.
He gets to stay in London on a good contract and good wage and never got a chance in the premiership really under us. He gets to learn under the likes of cech and still has a while to go as a GK, getting chances we simply haven't given him.
It'll be interesting to see how he does. An immediate thought is that he will stay third choice and hardly get a game. But I imagine he has a different and perhaps more pragmatic and academic approach to being a goalie, and with his dad a good professional reputation and if anyone could upskill in that role, also given the fact he's 6ft 4, I reckon he could.
Let's be honest. There are better keepers out there. Areola was a different class to anything we've had in a long while and whilst rodak is young I think as he bulks out a bit he'll definitely have the ability but you can't begrudge a player like Betts the opportunity to go and play at Chelsea a club which simply is likely to have a better GK setup and where he can learn from a modern legend like Cech.
He has essentially retired from competitive football aged 29 so it's all a bit depressing from a career (if not financial) point of view really.
Fair enough for him to come out with the usual guff about being delighted to sign etc, but to essentially say he's been harbouring a dream to play for Chelsea all along is going a bit far and is a bit of a stupid thing to say; the funny thing is it's unlikely he'll ever even play for them.......
Letting off a few flares would have added lustre to his statement.
Thanks for the memories Betts
:plus one:
Quote from: General on July 28, 2021, 10:23:26 PM
As far as I'm concerned Betts is the one player who owes absolutely zero to this club.
His dad is the GK coach, he's been with us through all the academy stages and his whole life (through his dad) has been defined by this club.
Not only that but he's not once kicked his toys out of the pram or kicked up a fuss going through being a first team starter to losing his place and being shipped out to Boro.
On top of all of that we as a club gave him no clarity on his contract and let it run down, which he mentioned in a interview post being released.
He gets to stay in London on a good contract and good wage and never got a chance in the premiership really under us. He gets to learn under the likes of cech and still has a while to go as a GK, getting chances we simply haven't given him.
It'll be interesting to see how he does. An immediate thought is that he will stay third choice and hardly get a game. But I imagine he has a different and perhaps more pragmatic and academic approach to being a goalie, and with his dad a good professional reputation and if anyone could upskill in that role, also given the fact he's 6ft 4, I reckon he could.
Let's be honest. There are better keepers out there. Areola was a different class to anything we've had in a long while and whilst rodak is young I think as he bulks out a bit he'll definitely have the ability but you can't begrudge a player like Betts the opportunity to go and play at Chelsea a club which simply is likely to have a better GK setup and where he can learn from a modern legend like Cech.
I totally agree with this - The guy obviously has a view of how to conduct his own career (or rebuild it after the demolition job this club did on him). No doubt he also talked it through with his dad and others before the final decision.
Posters on here need to get over their petty dislike/hatred/jealousy of other clubs - Chelsea are a bigger club than Fulham and obviously better run than us - their success over the years tells us that.
No i totally agree, being paid 20k a week to sit on a bench at the European champions is great and fair play to him, but to say he's been dreaming of doing so for ages whilst Chelsea are still technically our local rivals.. It's bit of a stupid thing to say - But also that his roots are so strong with Fulham, his dad's links and the fact he's literally been with us through his whole life.. It's a very very stupid thing to say..
Quote from: Kiwimike on July 29, 2021, 12:40:55 AM
:plus one:Quote from: General on July 28, 2021, 10:23:26 PM
As far as I'm concerned Betts is the one player who owes absolutely zero to this club.
His dad is the GK coach, he's been with us through all the academy stages and his whole life (through his dad) has been defined by this club.
Not only that but he's not once kicked his toys out of the pram or kicked up a fuss going through being a first team starter to losing his place and being shipped out to Boro.
On top of all of that we as a club gave him no clarity on his contract and let it run down, which he mentioned in a interview post being released.
He gets to stay in London on a good contract and good wage and never got a chance in the premiership really under us. He gets to learn under the likes of cech and still has a while to go as a GK, getting chances we simply haven't given him.
It'll be interesting to see how he does. An immediate thought is that he will stay third choice and hardly get a game. But I imagine he has a different and perhaps more pragmatic and academic approach to being a goalie, and with his dad a good professional reputation and if anyone could upskill in that role, also given the fact he's 6ft 4, I reckon he could.
Let's be honest. There are better keepers out there. Areola was a different class to anything we've had in a long while and whilst rodak is young I think as he bulks out a bit he'll definitely have the ability but you can't begrudge a player like Betts the opportunity to go and play at Chelsea a club which simply is likely to have a better GK setup and where he can learn from a modern legend like Cech.
I totally agree with this - The guy obviously has a view of how to conduct his own career (or rebuild it after the demolition job this club did on him). No doubt he also talked it through with his dad and others before the final decision.
Posters on here need to get over their petty dislike/hatred/jealousy of other clubs - Chelsea are a bigger club than Fulham and obviously better run than us - their success over the years tells us that.
When did Fulham ever do a demolition job on his career? We gave him a bumper payrise when we got promoted back to the PL (30k a week for someone of his ability is bonkers), then had to drop him because he wasn't good enough, got relegated and made him #1 again only for him to drop a clanger in about 8 games running so we had no choice but to drop him AGAIN. He then gets another chance at a championship club as a #1 and makes himself statistically the second worst keeper in the league and gets dropped AGAIN. Face facts he was just never that good but got so much more leeway than many better goalkeepers we had during his time here because he was "one of our own". Will never forget the people booing Rico and wanting Betts back because they thought he was better, only for only for one keeper to be playing champions league football the following year and the other on the bench in the championship. He's a nice guy but a bang average GK and he's taken the easy option at Chelsea because it probably dawned on him that he'd be a backup at championship clubs at best if he didn't have that choice of being their water boy
Good luck to him. I'm disappointed to see him go, I think he's a better keeper than Gazanenga or however it's spelt, but I dont run the club. I doubt he'll play any game of note, but like others I'll be interested to see how he gets on.
Pretty standard stuff most players say when joining new club.Cheers Betts and thanks for the memories
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 29, 2021, 01:10:47 AM
Quote from: Kiwimike on July 29, 2021, 12:40:55 AM
:plus one:Quote from: General on July 28, 2021, 10:23:26 PM
As far as I'm concerned Betts is the one player who owes absolutely zero to this club.
His dad is the GK coach, he's been with us through all the academy stages and his whole life (through his dad) has been defined by this club.
Not only that but he's not once kicked his toys out of the pram or kicked up a fuss going through being a first team starter to losing his place and being shipped out to Boro.
On top of all of that we as a club gave him no clarity on his contract and let it run down, which he mentioned in a interview post being released.
He gets to stay in London on a good contract and good wage and never got a chance in the premiership really under us. He gets to learn under the likes of cech and still has a while to go as a GK, getting chances we simply haven't given him.
It'll be interesting to see how he does. An immediate thought is that he will stay third choice and hardly get a game. But I imagine he has a different and perhaps more pragmatic and academic approach to being a goalie, and with his dad a good professional reputation and if anyone could upskill in that role, also given the fact he's 6ft 4, I reckon he could.
Let's be honest. There are better keepers out there. Areola was a different class to anything we've had in a long while and whilst rodak is young I think as he bulks out a bit he'll definitely have the ability but you can't begrudge a player like Betts the opportunity to go and play at Chelsea a club which simply is likely to have a better GK setup and where he can learn from a modern legend like Cech.
I totally agree with this - The guy obviously has a view of how to conduct his own career (or rebuild it after the demolition job this club did on him). No doubt he also talked it through with his dad and others before the final decision.
Posters on here need to get over their petty dislike/hatred/jealousy of other clubs - Chelsea are a bigger club than Fulham and obviously better run than us - their success over the years tells us that.
When did Fulham ever do a demolition job on his career? We gave him a bumper payrise when we got promoted back to the PL (30k a week for someone of his ability is bonkers), then had to drop him because he wasn't good enough, got relegated and made him #1 again only for him to drop a clanger in about 8 games running so we had no choice but to drop him AGAIN. He then gets another chance at a championship club as a #1 and makes himself statistically the second worst keeper in the league and gets dropped AGAIN. Face facts he was just never that good but got so much more leeway than many better goalkeepers we had during his time here because he was "one of our own". Will never forget the people booing Rico and wanting Betts back because they thought he was better, only for only for one keeper to be playing champions league football the following year and the other on the bench in the championship. He's a nice guy but a bang average GK and he's taken the easy option at Chelsea because it probably dawned on him that he'd be a backup at championship clubs at best if he didn't have that choice of being their water boy
I think last year, when we shipped him to boro with just one year left on his contract and on loan we should've had the courtesy to let him know where he stood and tried to help him get a permanent contract.
Instead we just ran down his contract and didn't tell him what we were going to do until it was the end of his contract. He said he didn't want to leave but no offer came. On our release list the club said they were still in negotiations with Betts. Having seen Betts tell his side of the story in person on am interview, it didn't sound like he was making things up.
I think that is poor management of the player who's given the club a lot of his life when the courtesy to just say they don't consider him good enough last year would've given him a better chance to sort himself out career wise.
He's gone to Chelsea, which for him isn't a bad move in many respects although he won't get much game time and he was snapped up relatively quickly, but that's why I levelled the criticism towards the club, which I don't think is overly harsh.
Quote from: General on July 29, 2021, 09:24:08 AM
I think last year, when we shipped him to boro with just one year left on his contract and on loan we should've had the courtesy to let him know where he stood and tried to help him get a permanent contract.
Instead we just ran down his contract and didn't tell him what we were going to do until it was the end of his contract. He said he didn't want to leave but no offer came. On our release list the club said they were still in negotiations with Betts. Having seen Betts tell his side of the story in person on am interview, it didn't sound like he was making things up.
I think that is poor management of the player who's given the club a lot of his life when the courtesy to just say they don't consider him good enough last year would've given him a better chance to sort himself out career wise.
He's gone to Chelsea, which for him isn't a bad move in many respects although he won't get much game time and he was snapped up relatively quickly, but that's why I levelled the criticism towards the club, which I don't think is overly harsh.
Sorry General my comment was aimed at Kiwimike's response rather than your own
Gazzaniga our new keeper was in that position of third choice at Spurs, now I see that Joe Hart maybe on the move, perhaps before he is in the same position. Good luck to Marcus
Quote from: General on July 28, 2021, 10:23:26 PM
As far as I'm concerned Betts is the one player who owes absolutely zero to this club.
His dad is the GK coach, he's been with us through all the academy stages and his whole life (through his dad) has been defined by this club.
Not only that but he's not once kicked his toys out of the pram or kicked up a fuss going through being a first team starter to losing his place and being shipped out to Boro.
On top of all of that we as a club gave him no clarity on his contract and let it run down, which he mentioned in a interview post being released.
He gets to stay in London on a good contract and good wage and never got a chance in the premiership really under us. He gets to learn under the likes of cech and still has a while to go as a GK, getting chances we simply haven't given him.
It'll be interesting to see how he does. An immediate thought is that he will stay third choice and hardly get a game. But I imagine he has a different and perhaps more pragmatic and academic approach to being a goalie, and with his dad a good professional reputation and if anyone could upskill in that role, also given the fact he's 6ft 4, I reckon he could.
Let's be honest. There are better keepers out there. Areola was a different class to anything we've had in a long while and whilst rodak is young I think as he bulks out a bit he'll definitely have the ability but you can't begrudge a player like Betts the opportunity to go and play at Chelsea a club which simply is likely to have a better GK setup and where he can learn from a modern legend like Cech.
Completely agree
Sensible move. Unwanted at Fulham who prefer Rodak or an expensive loan. Can't blame him at all. He's only 29, still a decade between the sticks left. So can go and earn well on the Chelski bench or a few years then go and play again at Championship level.
Sincerely best of luck to him, he did his best for Fulham.
Quote from: Twig on July 29, 2021, 09:53:34 AM
Quote from: General on July 28, 2021, 10:23:26 PM
As far as I'm concerned Betts is the one player who owes absolutely zero to this club.
His dad is the GK coach, he's been with us through all the academy stages and his whole life (through his dad) has been defined by this club.
Not only that but he's not once kicked his toys out of the pram or kicked up a fuss going through being a first team starter to losing his place and being shipped out to Boro.
On top of all of that we as a club gave him no clarity on his contract and let it run down, which he mentioned in a interview post being released.
He gets to stay in London on a good contract and good wage and never got a chance in the premiership really under us. He gets to learn under the likes of cech and still has a while to go as a GK, getting chances we simply haven't given him.
It'll be interesting to see how he does. An immediate thought is that he will stay third choice and hardly get a game. But I imagine he has a different and perhaps more pragmatic and academic approach to being a goalie, and with his dad a good professional reputation and if anyone could upskill in that role, also given the fact he's 6ft 4, I reckon he could.
Let's be honest. There are better keepers out there. Areola was a different class to anything we've had in a long while and whilst rodak is young I think as he bulks out a bit he'll definitely have the ability but you can't begrudge a player like Betts the opportunity to go and play at Chelsea a club which simply is likely to have a better GK setup and where he can learn from a modern legend like Cech.
Completely agree
Seconded.
I hope Betts gets his chance, wins some medals and has a great time there.
He'll always be welcome back at the cottage.
He never let us down and earned his opportunity to move to a bigger club for a couple of years. What was he supposed to say? I'm quite sure he will give Chelsea his best now. There is no loyalty from players it is about who S paying your wages.
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 29, 2021, 01:10:47 AM
Quote from: Kiwimike on July 29, 2021, 12:40:55 AM
:plus one:Quote from: General on July 28, 2021, 10:23:26 PM
As far as I'm concerned Betts is the one player who owes absolutely zero to this club.
His dad is the GK coach, he's been with us through all the academy stages and his whole life (through his dad) has been defined by this club.
Not only that but he's not once kicked his toys out of the pram or kicked up a fuss going through being a first team starter to losing his place and being shipped out to Boro.
On top of all of that we as a club gave him no clarity on his contract and let it run down, which he mentioned in a interview post being released.
He gets to stay in London on a good contract and good wage and never got a chance in the premiership really under us. He gets to learn under the likes of cech and still has a while to go as a GK, getting chances we simply haven't given him.
It'll be interesting to see how he does. An immediate thought is that he will stay third choice and hardly get a game. But I imagine he has a different and perhaps more pragmatic and academic approach to being a goalie, and with his dad a good professional reputation and if anyone could upskill in that role, also given the fact he's 6ft 4, I reckon he could.
Let's be honest. There are better keepers out there. Areola was a different class to anything we've had in a long while and whilst rodak is young I think as he bulks out a bit he'll definitely have the ability but you can't begrudge a player like Betts the opportunity to go and play at Chelsea a club which simply is likely to have a better GK setup and where he can learn from a modern legend like Cech.
I totally agree with this - The guy obviously has a view of how to conduct his own career (or rebuild it after the demolition job this club did on him). No doubt he also talked it through with his dad and others before the final decision.
Posters on here need to get over their petty dislike/hatred/jealousy of other clubs - Chelsea are a bigger club than Fulham and obviously better run than us - their success over the years tells us that.
When did Fulham ever do a demolition job on his career? We gave him a bumper payrise when we got promoted back to the PL (30k a week for someone of his ability is bonkers), then had to drop him because he wasn't good enough, got relegated and made him #1 again only for him to drop a clanger in about 8 games running so we had no choice but to drop him AGAIN. He then gets another chance at a championship club as a #1 and makes himself statistically the second worst keeper in the league and gets dropped AGAIN. Face facts he was just never that good but got so much more leeway than many better goalkeepers we had during his time here because he was "one of our own". Will never forget the people booing Rico and wanting Betts back because they thought he was better, only for only for one keeper to be playing champions league football the following year and the other on the bench in the championship. He's a nice guy but a bang average GK and he's taken the easy option at Chelsea because it probably dawned on him that he'd be a backup at championship clubs at best if he didn't have that choice of being their water boy
A slight exaggeration ?
Quote from: Fulham1959 on July 29, 2021, 11:02:09 AM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 29, 2021, 01:10:47 AM
Quote from: Kiwimike on July 29, 2021, 12:40:55 AM
:plus one:Quote from: General on July 28, 2021, 10:23:26 PM
As far as I'm concerned Betts is the one player who owes absolutely zero to this club.
His dad is the GK coach, he's been with us through all the academy stages and his whole life (through his dad) has been defined by this club.
Not only that but he's not once kicked his toys out of the pram or kicked up a fuss going through being a first team starter to losing his place and being shipped out to Boro.
On top of all of that we as a club gave him no clarity on his contract and let it run down, which he mentioned in a interview post being released.
He gets to stay in London on a good contract and good wage and never got a chance in the premiership really under us. He gets to learn under the likes of cech and still has a while to go as a GK, getting chances we simply haven't given him.
It'll be interesting to see how he does. An immediate thought is that he will stay third choice and hardly get a game. But I imagine he has a different and perhaps more pragmatic and academic approach to being a goalie, and with his dad a good professional reputation and if anyone could upskill in that role, also given the fact he's 6ft 4, I reckon he could.
Let's be honest. There are better keepers out there. Areola was a different class to anything we've had in a long while and whilst rodak is young I think as he bulks out a bit he'll definitely have the ability but you can't begrudge a player like Betts the opportunity to go and play at Chelsea a club which simply is likely to have a better GK setup and where he can learn from a modern legend like Cech.
I totally agree with this - The guy obviously has a view of how to conduct his own career (or rebuild it after the demolition job this club did on him). No doubt he also talked it through with his dad and others before the final decision.
Posters on here need to get over their petty dislike/hatred/jealousy of other clubs - Chelsea are a bigger club than Fulham and obviously better run than us - their success over the years tells us that.
When did Fulham ever do a demolition job on his career? We gave him a bumper payrise when we got promoted back to the PL (30k a week for someone of his ability is bonkers), then had to drop him because he wasn't good enough, got relegated and made him #1 again only for him to drop a clanger in about 8 games running so we had no choice but to drop him AGAIN. He then gets another chance at a championship club as a #1 and makes himself statistically the second worst keeper in the league and gets dropped AGAIN. Face facts he was just never that good but got so much more leeway than many better goalkeepers we had during his time here because he was "one of our own". Will never forget the people booing Rico and wanting Betts back because they thought he was better, only for only for one keeper to be playing champions league football the following year and the other on the bench in the championship. He's a nice guy but a bang average GK and he's taken the easy option at Chelsea because it probably dawned on him that he'd be a backup at championship clubs at best if he didn't have that choice of being their water boy
A slight exaggeration ?
Well obviously but he was dropped after the 12th game of the season after committing errors that led to at least 5 goals.
Can't wait to see what reaction he gets if he plays at the Cottage for the Blue Poo
Quote from: KJS on July 29, 2021, 11:39:33 AM
Can't wait to see what reaction he gets if he plays at the Cottage for the Blue Poo
I'd say default for any player who left on good terms. Polite applause, then hammered for the entire game. Its only fair.
Call me petty but I'm a bit annoyed he went to Chelsea. I would have hoped that after all the loyalty he showed to us (and the high wages he got from us in latter years) that he would have chosen somewhere else, I detest that club. Oh well, at least I won't be sentimental about him again.
You can't blame him for going. I for one wish him well.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 28, 2021, 09:58:01 PM
Although I love the club I have come from I wanted a payday and a chance to play reserve football and with luck the odd cup game said new signing Bettyoubygollywow.
What else was he expected to say. Good luck to hum.
Exactly. Glad he has found a club who will pay him a decent salary. I am sure he would have preferred a No 1 jersey somewhere but his season on loan at Boro didn't go exactly how he would have wanted I am sure. Good luck to the man, I, for one, will only ever wish him the best as he seems like a thoroughly decent bloke and always gave his all when he pulled on the shirt. And I will never forget the Wembley flare!
Thanks Betts for your service to our Fulham family and dood luck for the future
I will forget those final leaving words from Betts and just remember him as a loyal Fulham keeper who never quite hit the top with us.
Does anybody know who he is reported to support? I have no idea, but I suppose there is a big chance it could be Chelsea?
Anyway, good luck to him, he's given our club a big part of his life.
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on July 29, 2021, 12:11:39 PM
Call me petty but I'm a bit annoyed he went to Chelsea. I would have hoped that after all the loyalty he showed to us (and the high wages he got from us in latter years) that he would have chosen somewhere else, I detest that club. Oh well, at least I won't be sentimental about him again.
The club have hardly shown him the loyalty you're talking about, so why shouldn't he go there? Saves him moving house, moving his kids schools etc.
Plus, even with all the will in the world, you can't deny that their now one of the biggest clubs in the world. He'll probably learn more as a number three there, than he would as a number 2 with us.
