https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/football-fulham-boss-gives-updates-on-cairney-and-kongolo-and-its-not-great-news
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I'm a huge fan of TC and hope his persistently troublesome knee(s) allow him back on the hallowed turf ASAP but sadly I have my doubts.
Kongolo? I literally don't know what to make of his chances of ever playing for us for a sustained period of matches
Perhaps it would be better if they both retired injured and the club claimed insurance.
The Kongolo thing has been known for ages, hasn't it? The official has said end of August?
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on July 30, 2021, 12:49:57 AM
The Kongolo thing has been known for ages, hasn't it? The official has said end of August?
Yeah I don't know why people are making a deal of it because it was said about 2 days after the op he had that he was due back in august. The fact he's even back and kicking a ball in training is a positive because it means he's on or ahead of schedule
This doesn't preclude us from an invincible season. Not worried.
Onomah will get more minutes, and Zambo probably won't be going anywhere now.
Kongolo has posted two videos of himself on his Instagram in training in the last week alone.
One was by Tete and with a ball at his feet but wasn't training but fully kitted up which I thought may have meant he was in full training.
The second he was doing quite a few thorough excersises, still on his own with a club specialist, but they seemed at quite an advanced stage as he was doing quite a variety of activities all requiring jumping and flexibility of ankles/legs/knees.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on July 30, 2021, 05:00:40 AM
Onomah will get more minutes, and Zambo probably won't be going anywhere now.
There is a lot of potential talent in the squad, Onamah is ready to make his break out season, let's see how he goes in the games before deadline day. Now, Cairney is injured to raise money Anguiissa is almost certainly leaving. We have to stop buying players and see where are weaknesses and strengths lie.
TC I'm disappointed, I was hoping a he would be good to go for this season, though I'm quietly hoping this gives young Carvalho a chance to get some minutes, we are always moaning our talented youngsters don't get enough of a chance. Kongolo has only started full training in the last week after a year out anybody who thought he was going to play against Boro or Millwall must be crazy.
Knee injuries can be horrendous, I do worry whether we'll ever see the Cairney we all know and love ever again. Kongolo however appears to be the Dutch Jack Wilshere. Hopefully I'm wrong and he's just been unlucky......
Time to move TC on he has become a bigger sicknote than Jimmy Bullard was🙄
I think TC game time will be very much managed. We need a player to play not so much as a backup but in rotation with him, could that be Seri, or Carvalho, or BDR or maybe all 3.
The real worry is Cairney, that knee problem has been around too long for comfort and we have to question if he will ever command a regular place in our championship team.
Stefjo hase left, Anguissa could well be snatched by a premier team before the window closes and without Cairney our midfield would be Onamah, Reed, Reid ?, Cavalho ?. We need new midfield players.
I don't understand why the Cairney situation is still discussed. He will never be fit enough to be able to play more games than he misses in the season. It is a tragedy for the player but when the damage he is doing to himself outweigh the expectation.
Kongolo has a history but that doesn't mean he can't recover. But we know that these players are always likely to be problems now.
As I have posted elsewhere, they take up two squad places and we need players that can play. Im sorry for them (maybe parking in a disabled space has its way of coming back and biting you on the butt), but we have to look at the bigger picture. They are crocked along with Mawson. Move them on and get players in who don't have knee problems.
Love all the armchair physios on here using their extensive knowledge of medicine and I assume some psychic powers to discern, through the medium of training ground photos, that Cairney's one injury is career ending whereas the 73 injuries suffered by Kongolo since he signed are all perfectly recoverable
I have been very impressed by the advancement of medical science and qualifications of Doctors on this site. So therefore does anybody on here have any knowledge of how to get rid of the Leeches I picked up recently whilst out on manoeuvres on the Zambezi river.
I have tried salt and also a blow torch and even tried playing songs by somebody called Lulu with her fish wife grated voice at a high volume but some of them are holding their own and won't budge.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2021, 11:29:16 AM
I have been very impressed by the advancement of medical science and qualifications of Doctors on this site. So therefore does anybody on here have any knowledge of how to get rid of the Leeches I picked up recently whilst out on manoeuvres on the Zambezi river.
I have tried salt and also a blow torch and even tried playing songs by somebody called Lulu with her fish wife grated voice at a high volume but some of them are holding their own and won't budge.
Apparently if you've picked up crabs, and you stand on a mirror, they all jump off.
As for the leeches, try putting some money out in the garden. When you go out the leeches will go for the money and you can run back indoors and shut them out.
Well kongolo is not a suprise and doubt he will ever play more than a handful of games for the club.
it was an unecessary signing at the time of a player that was clearly not properly fit.
Shame, he is clearly a good player but in the Mawson mould of why bother signing a player that has issues.
TC is a different kettle. I hope this is not the end of him because he barely played last season and is clearly nowhere near right oif he is still not fit.
He will be a big miss.
Quote from: ALG01 on July 30, 2021, 11:41:50 AM
Well kongolo is not a suprise and doubt he will ever play more than a handful of games for the club.
it was an unecessary signing at the time of a player that was clearly not properly fit.
Shame, he is clearly a good player but in the Mawson mould of why bother signing a player that has issues.
TC is a different kettle. I hope this is not the end of him because he barely played last season and is clearly nowhere near right oif he is still not fit.
He will be a big miss.
Fans always talk about 'taking a punt' on a player, which is one of my least favourite phrases on here. From what I can see the Kongolo situation is an example of why 'taking a punt' is a truly mistaken way to recruit.
Quote from: blingo on July 30, 2021, 11:37:00 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2021, 11:29:16 AM
I have been very impressed by the advancement of medical science and qualifications of Doctors on this site. So therefore does anybody on here have any knowledge of how to get rid of the Leeches I picked up recently whilst out on manoeuvres on the Zambezi river.
I have tried salt and also a blow torch and even tried playing songs by somebody called Lulu with her fish wife grated voice at a high volume but some of them are holding their own and won't budge.
Apparently if you've picked up crabs, and you stand on a mirror, they all jump off.
As for the leeches, try putting some money out in the garden. When you go out the leeches will go for the money and you can run back indoors and shut them out.
What about if I picked up an Octopus 🐙
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2021, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: blingo on July 30, 2021, 11:37:00 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2021, 11:29:16 AM
I have been very impressed by the advancement of medical science and qualifications of Doctors on this site. So therefore does anybody on here have any knowledge of how to get rid of the Leeches I picked up recently whilst out on manoeuvres on the Zambezi river.
I have tried salt and also a blow torch and even tried playing songs by somebody called Lulu with her fish wife grated voice at a high volume but some of them are holding their own and won't budge.
Apparently if you've picked up crabs, and you stand on a mirror, they all jump off.
As for the leeches, try putting some money out in the garden. When you go out the leeches will go for the money and you can run back indoors and shut them out.
What about if I picked up an Octopus 🐙
I'd leg it before it got amorous.
Quote from: blingo on July 30, 2021, 12:30:19 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2021, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: blingo on July 30, 2021, 11:37:00 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2021, 11:29:16 AM
I have been very impressed by the advancement of medical science and qualifications of Doctors on this site. So therefore does anybody on here have any knowledge of how to get rid of the Leeches I picked up recently whilst out on manoeuvres on the Zambezi river.
I have tried salt and also a blow torch and even tried playing songs by somebody called Lulu with her fish wife grated voice at a high volume but some of them are holding their own and won't budge.
Apparently if you've picked up crabs, and you stand on a mirror, they all jump off.
As for the leeches, try putting some money out in the garden. When you go out the leeches will go for the money and you can run back indoors and shut them out.
What about if I picked up an Octopus 🐙
I'd leg it before it got amorous.
On my last excursion I brought back a Mermaid or was it a Chambermaid, the memory fades.
To those writing off Kongolo and TC bear in mind that Silva is quoted as saying that; he hopes to have Kongolo back soon and that TC is not fully fit yet. It doesn't sound all doom and gloom yet to me.
Quote from: Twig on July 30, 2021, 01:56:24 PM
To those writing off Kongolo and TC bear in mind thta Silva is quoted as saying that; he opes to have Kongolo back soon and that TC is not fully fit yet. It doesn't sound all doom and gloom yet to me.
The two are different and I am not sure what silva understands or whether his words can be taken as any more than he doesn't really know himself.
kongolo was a clear error because signing an injured player is always amassive risk. Mitroglu, mawson and now this one. the chances of seeing them play is very remote. I cannot imagine he will feature much if at all.
TC is different. Clearly he has a problem and he barely played last season and it is not clear whether he is trying to get fit and breaking down or needs a more physical intervention. Whatever is wrong with tom the club have kept it very quiet for a long time. The length of time he has already been out is a great concern.
I have fond memories of Tom but can now only envisage him in a rotating role who'll likely be targeted when playing and be injured again; so reluctantly I'd say let him go.
I think Tom's issues are chronic aren't they? Hopefully he recovers enough to play a role in the bigger games this season. Squad is big enough that we can rest him where we need to.
Feel sorry for Kongolo. He has so much talent but has been so unlucky with injuries the last few seasons. Looked awesome when he actually played for us last season. I think the timeline was always August for him so really hoping he can get fully fit this time and but the injuries behind him.
Who'd have thought it?
I saw people including these two in our best eleven for the season. I'd be surprised if we see 25 games between them.
Imperative we don't find ourselves relying on either, which for Kongolo is nothing new, but with TC is quite sad now.
Thank goodness we have Mawson back ready to play 46 some odd games. What a relief.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2021, 01:21:58 PM
Quote from: blingo on July 30, 2021, 12:30:19 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2021, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: blingo on July 30, 2021, 11:37:00 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 30, 2021, 11:29:16 AM
I have been very impressed by the advancement of medical science and qualifications of Doctors on this site. So therefore does anybody on here have any knowledge of how to get rid of the Leeches I picked up recently whilst out on manoeuvres on the Zambezi river.
I have tried salt and also a blow torch and even tried playing songs by somebody called Lulu with her fish wife grated voice at a high volume but some of them are holding their own and won't budge.
Apparently if you've picked up crabs, and you stand on a mirror, they all jump off.
As for the leeches, try putting some money out in the garden. When you go out the leeches will go for the money and you can run back indoors and shut them out.
What about if I picked up an Octopus 🐙
I'd leg it before it got amorous.
On my last excursion I brought back a Mermaid or was it a Chambermaid, the memory fades.
Mermaid, Chambermaid, lemonade, but my favourite is merry maid (remember them?)
Be amazed if Frank and Seri plays games us this season.
For us.
So would I but I was wondering if the African nations cup was putting people off a little going for African players this summer... if we don't receive any bids I would be tempted to speak to them and say give us 6 months 100% and if we are not top 2 by January we will accept any bid.
Quote from: The Rock on July 30, 2021, 04:04:08 PM
Thank goodness we have Mawson back ready to play 46 some odd games. What a relief.
This made me laugh.
Quote from: Statto on July 30, 2021, 10:43:20 AM
Love all the armchair physios on here using their extensive knowledge of medicine and I assume some psychic powers to discern, through the medium of training ground photos, that Cairney's one injury is career ending whereas the 73 injuries suffered by Kongolo since he signed are all perfectly recoverable
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It just says Cairney isn't fully fit as of yet
Hopefully it's just a fitness thing for being out so long
Saw TC after the game walking away from the ground and he was limping very slightly
Quote from: snarks on August 01, 2021, 02:07:04 PM
Saw TC after the game walking away from the ground and he was limping very slightly
That's the way he walks normally though isn't it? :)
Some detail on these two from Silva's press conference reported in the Athletic. On Kongolo:
"Silva said that while Kongolo has made progress, he is yet to train with the team and he can't give a date for when he will return."
Sounds like it'll be a while before he's ready to play his token one game for the season.
Wasn't good when TC was caught on the ski slopes earlier in the year when injured.
As has been said many times before, when Kongolo picked up his current injury the return date was given as the end of August, so nothing has changed really, its going to be after the international break that you will get to see the real Fulham FC, in the meantime we just have to pick up whatever points we can,
Season starts for real at Blackpool.
Terrible shame about Cairney he is going to be badly missed. It is time to find a replacement play maker and captain to see us through the season.
Silva should face facts immediately and decide whether Carvalho is good enough to occupy the playmaker role and if Ream should be captain for the whole season.
Quote from: Riversider on August 13, 2021, 02:50:48 PM
Kongolo picked up his current injury the return date was given as the end of August
2 weeks' time? Dream on
Cairney missed months of last season, had the summer off, came back and lasted one training session with Silva and now is out for weeks again. That's a bad bad bad bad bad sign about the health of his knee(s) and any kind of ability that Fulham can count on him this season.
Assuming we're offloading Anguissa and Seri, I think we're *two* central midfielders short, in addition to lacking creativity. We can't truly believe we're getting autopro with BDR, Fabio, Reed, Onomah and Francois as our midfield options.
