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Question: Benitez or Hughes
Option 1: Benitez
Option 2: Hughes
Title: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: White Noise on December 21, 2010, 09:53:56 PM
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11860_6606655,00.html


Benitez axed by Inter

Former Liverpool boss shown the door by European champions


Last updated: 21st December 2010 
 

Sky Sports News understands Rafa Benitez has been sacked from his post as Inter Milan manager after just six months in charge.

The former Liverpool boss was only appointed by the Serie A giants in the summer but has failed to impress during his time in Italy.

Benitez was handed the unenviable task of following in the footsteps of Jose Mourinho after the former Chelsea chief secured an unprecedented treble of the UEFA Champions League, Serie A and Coppa Italia titles.

The 50-year-old has seen his side struggle in league action this season and they are currently seventh in the Serie A standings, 13 points adrift of leaders AC Milan, although they do have two games in hand.

Outburst
Inter's defence of their European crown has also stuttered as they finished second in Group A behind Tottenham and suffering a miserable 3-0 defeat at the hands of Werder Bremen in their final group fixture.

A meeting with Bayern Munich, who Mourinho's Inter defeated in the Champions League final last summer, was on the cards in the last 16, but there will be a new man at the helm for that fixture in February.

Benitez was understood to be on borrowed time after his outburst in the wake of the Club World Cup success when he called on club president Massimo Moratti to back him in the transfer market if they wanted him to stay as coach.

Moratti has pointedly refused to stand by the Spaniard following his explosive comments and it now appears his patience has run out.

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Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: RidgeRider on December 21, 2010, 10:05:18 PM
No
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: sipwell on December 21, 2010, 10:07:46 PM
Benitez: one word. No. If he can't do it with a multi-billion team, he won't be able to do it with a multi-million team.
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: Staffs White on December 21, 2010, 10:08:55 PM
NO NO NO NO NO NO

Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: cebu on December 21, 2010, 10:21:08 PM
I'd rather have Hughes.

P.S. Is the next Inter manager going to be Hodgson?
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: Mr Fulham on December 21, 2010, 10:23:31 PM
Rafa is still in charge - he hasn't been sacked!

http://www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=50763&L=it (http://www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=50763&L=it)
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: Jimpav on December 21, 2010, 10:44:00 PM
No. I'm not sparky's biggest fan but he deserves time. Benitez had gerrard - that was the difference.
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: Fernhurst on December 21, 2010, 11:03:45 PM
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


NO
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: SmithyFFC on December 21, 2010, 11:59:14 PM
To be fair Rafas consistent, hes taken the two biggest teams in England and Italy and made them mid table teams.
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: CincyFulham1 on December 22, 2010, 01:25:21 AM
No Thank You
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: Hazey on December 22, 2010, 11:42:07 AM
Sh*te I hit yes by mistake for Rafa/.....aaarrrrgbgggghhhh
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: epsomraver on December 22, 2010, 11:50:52 AM
Perhaps he will go back to Liverpool! will they being singing his name on Boxing Day?
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: richie17 on December 22, 2010, 11:50:59 AM
This is really weird.   Benitez is one of the world's elite managers, won La Liga with Valencia (twice - when will that ever happen again) and got Liverpool one Champions League final and one runner's up position.    Mark Hughes is a decent premier league manager.    It's like being asked if you'd prefer a ferrari or a mazda.   And everyone's going for the mazda....
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: The Equalizer on December 22, 2010, 11:52:22 AM
Quote from: richie17 on December 22, 2010, 11:50:59 AM
This is really weird.   Benitez is one of the world's elite managers, won La Liga with Valencia (twice - when will that ever happen again) and got Liverpool one Champions League final and one runner's up position.    Mark Hughes is a decent premier league manager.    It's like being asked if you'd prefer a ferrari or a mazda.   And everyone's going for the mazda....

Same with Sven Goran Erikssen - he's won just about everything there is, yet none of us want him!

BRING BACK TIGANA!!
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: Brede Butter Pudding on December 22, 2010, 11:53:57 AM
Benitez is one of the most overrated managers in my opinion, he brought in something ridiculous like 64 players into Liverpool during his time there and they STILL rely on two players to achieve, and without those two players they crumble. He's only been in the job six months and they've already seen that he's highly overrated.
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: richie17 on December 22, 2010, 11:59:33 AM
Quote from: Brede Butter Pudding on December 22, 2010, 11:53:57 AM
Benitez is one of the most overrated managers in my opinion, he brought in something ridiculous like 64 players into Liverpool during his time there and they STILL rely on two players to achieve, and without those two players they crumble. He's only been in the job six months and they've already seen that he's highly overrated.

doesn't quite square with his track record though does it?  (eg. won 55% of games at Liverpool, including implosions - Hughes won 45% at City, which is the difference of 10 points a season - then you've got the trophies, which Benitez is miles ahead on, the success with a (relatively) small club in Spain when this is more or less impossible.   The media portrayed him a certain way but he's bloody good and miles out of Mark Hughes' league.
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: BalDrick on December 22, 2010, 12:00:31 PM
Good manager, to an extent, but will never swoop to our level.
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: TonyGilroy on December 22, 2010, 12:11:30 PM
Quote from: richie17 on December 22, 2010, 11:50:59 AM
It's like being asked if you'd prefer a ferrari or a mazda.   And everyone's going for the mazda....

Maybe it depends on how clapped out the ferrari is.
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on December 22, 2010, 12:16:24 PM
Quote from: richie17 on December 22, 2010, 11:50:59 AM
This is really weird.   Benitez is one of the world's elite managers, won La Liga with Valencia (twice - when will that ever happen again) and got Liverpool one Champions League final and one runner's up position.    Mark Hughes is a decent premier league manager.    It's like being asked if you'd prefer a ferrari or a mazda.   And everyone's going for the mazda....

I never know what to make of Benitez. On the one hand he has been successful and won lots at Valencia and a Champions League at Liverpool.

On the other hand he continuously alienates players/owners of the clubs he works for - when the money dries up, so does his winning ability.

At Valencia he took aver a team that managed to get to two successive Champions League finals under Hector Cuper (meaning that they were seriously good anyway) to win two successive La Liga titles. He then floundered when the money dried up and famously said "I asked for a table and they bought me a lampshade" alienating his owners before being fired.

At Liverpool he took over what had been a mildly successful Liverpool team and, lets face it, fluked a Champions league. He never did any better than Houllier in the league and again finished terribly once the money had dried up agan.

At Inter Benitez took over from Mourinho and floundered. Yes he had injuries but Avram Grant managed to do the same thing AND guide them to a Champions league final. He then criticised the owner for lack of investment and was fired ( or was he?)

Basically, he is a better manager than Hughes but I doubt he would do much at Fulham without the financial backing he had elsewhere and with a relatively bellicose owner who does not like being criticised.
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: Burt on December 22, 2010, 12:19:24 PM
In a word - "NON"
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: FC Silver Fox on December 22, 2010, 12:46:37 PM
Quote from: richie17 on December 22, 2010, 11:50:59 AM
This is really weird.   Benitez is one of the world's elite managers, won La Liga with Valencia (twice - when will that ever happen again) and got Liverpool one Champions League final and one runner's up position.    Mark Hughes is a decent premier league manager.    It's like being asked if you'd prefer a ferrari or a mazda.   And everyone's going for the mazda....

Do you want a clapped out Ferrari that will spend most of its time in the garage and cost you a fortune on maintenance and insurance or a fun Mazda MX5 that will give you an exhilirating ride on a shoestring budget ?      Smoke and mirrors, Ritchie. Its all smoke and mirrors.
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: Blingo on December 22, 2010, 12:49:03 PM
Benitez has achieved more than MH, but has been at it longer, and you don't win the champions league without being a good manager.

Now if MH delivered the F.A.Cup this season..............
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: richie17 on December 22, 2010, 01:30:55 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on December 22, 2010, 12:16:24 PM
Quote from: richie17 on December 22, 2010, 11:50:59 AM
This is really weird.   Benitez is one of the world's elite managers, won La Liga with Valencia (twice - when will that ever happen again) and got Liverpool one Champions League final and one runner's up position.    Mark Hughes is a decent premier league manager.    It's like being asked if you'd prefer a ferrari or a mazda.   And everyone's going for the mazda....

I never know what to make of Benitez. On the one hand he has been successful and won lots at Valencia and a Champions League at Liverpool.

On the other hand he continuously alienates players/owners of the clubs he works for - when the money dries up, so does his winning ability.

At Valencia he took aver a team that managed to get to two successive Champions League finals under Hector Cuper (meaning that they were seriously good anyway) to win two successive La Liga titles. He then floundered when the money dried up and famously said "I asked for a table and they bought me a lampshade" alienating his owners before being fired.

At Liverpool he took over what had been a mildly successful Liverpool team and, lets face it, fluked a Champions league. He never did any better than Houllier in the league and again finished terribly once the money had dried up agan.

At Inter Benitez took over from Mourinho and floundered. Yes he had injuries but Avram Grant managed to do the same thing AND guide them to a Champions league final. He then criticised the owner for lack of investment and was fired ( or was he?)

Basically, he is a better manager than Hughes but I doubt he would do much at Fulham without the financial backing he had elsewhere and with a relatively bellicose owner who does not like being criticised.

Wow, I really like that answer.  I guess this is now how I feel on the subject.
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on December 22, 2010, 01:54:43 PM
Quote from: richie17 on December 22, 2010, 01:30:55 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on December 22, 2010, 12:16:24 PM
Quote from: richie17 on December 22, 2010, 11:50:59 AM
This is really weird.   Benitez is one of the world's elite managers, won La Liga with Valencia (twice - when will that ever happen again) and got Liverpool one Champions League final and one runner's up position.    Mark Hughes is a decent premier league manager.    It's like being asked if you'd prefer a ferrari or a mazda.   And everyone's going for the mazda....

I never know what to make of Benitez. On the one hand he has been successful and won lots at Valencia and a Champions League at Liverpool.

On the other hand he continuously alienates players/owners of the clubs he works for - when the money dries up, so does his winning ability.

At Valencia he took aver a team that managed to get to two successive Champions League finals under Hector Cuper (meaning that they were seriously good anyway) to win two successive La Liga titles. He then floundered when the money dried up and famously said "I asked for a table and they bought me a lampshade" alienating his owners before being fired.

At Liverpool he took over what had been a mildly successful Liverpool team and, lets face it, fluked a Champions league. He never did any better than Houllier in the league and again finished terribly once the money had dried up agan.

At Inter Benitez took over from Mourinho and floundered. Yes he had injuries but Avram Grant managed to do the same thing AND guide them to a Champions league final. He then criticised the owner for lack of investment and was fired ( or was he?)

Basically, he is a better manager than Hughes but I doubt he would do much at Fulham without the financial backing he had elsewhere and with a relatively bellicose owner who does not like being criticised.

Wow, I really like that answer.  I guess this is now how I feel on the subject.

I am glad you did because the pertinent details too all of 10 mins research on Wiki!
Title: Re: Inter Sack Benitez - Would You Rather Him Than Sparky?
Post by: The Equalizer on December 22, 2010, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: FC Silver Fox on December 22, 2010, 12:46:37 PM
Quote from: richie17 on December 22, 2010, 11:50:59 AM
This is really weird.   Benitez is one of the world's elite managers, won La Liga with Valencia (twice - when will that ever happen again) and got Liverpool one Champions League final and one runner's up position.    Mark Hughes is a decent premier league manager.    It's like being asked if you'd prefer a ferrari or a mazda.   And everyone's going for the mazda....

Do you want a clapped out Ferrari that will spend most of its time in the garage and cost you a fortune on maintenance and insurance or a fun Mazda MX5 that will give you an exhilirating ride on a shoestring budget ?      Smoke and mirrors, Ritchie. Its all smoke and mirrors.

We'll see how much smoke and mirrors there are come the end of january... currently the jury is out and it consists of Henry Fonda, Jack Warden and Quincy...