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If there has been an ever present in our Fulham squad, who quietly goes about his career game after game, season after season, without making a fuss - it's Tim Ream. He may not be the fastest, he may not be the most technically gifted, and he surely doesn't score many goals - but my word at 33, Tim is still playing for the USMNT and just won a trophy this summer. Moreover, he has spent the majority of his club playing career with Fulham (see below). Is a contender for Captain this year?
No matter what any of us think about Tim...I just wanted to start a quick Appreciation Thread for him. What an outstanding steward for our club - through good and bad times. Thank you Tim since joining 2015! I hope he hit's his 200 game mark for the Cottagers here shortly :)
Tim Ream Club Stats.
2008–2009 Chicago Fire Premier 19
2010–2011 New York Red Bulls 58
2012–2015 Bolton Wanderers 114
2015– Fulham 184
Think he was great today, but last championship season he was caught out a fair few times.
Charlton are probably about the level of a a lower half championship team which is where his level is probably at now. With that said would be more than happy for him to prove me wrong against better teams this season.
Played well with Tosin thought Robinson was not up for it today though
Ream was a rock today and is usually like that imo
Ok not Prem but deffo in the champ
Agree with the OP.
Carried on from where he left off last season away to Man U.
It's time we moved on. Tim Ream is not the answer. He has too many mistakes in his game. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate his commitment and all he has given. Who can forget 2018 and the 23 game run. We need to look to the future and cement a CB partnership that we can take back to the Prem.
Didn't see any mistakes today?
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 31, 2021, 07:18:18 PM
Didn't see any mistakes today?
Maybe not. I didn't watch the game. Cast you mind back to the season before last.
Quote from: Whitestone on July 31, 2021, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 31, 2021, 07:18:18 PM
Didn't see any mistakes today?
Maybe not. I didn't watch the game. Cast you mind back to the season before last.
When we got promoted with him in the team?
Quote from: WokingFFC on July 31, 2021, 07:43:11 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on July 31, 2021, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 31, 2021, 07:18:18 PM
Didn't see any mistakes today?
Maybe not. I didn't watch the game. Cast you mind back to the season before last.
When we got promoted with him in the team?
Oh, come on. Yes, we got promoted with him despite everything. We hardly set the league alight. Granted that had a lot to do with the style of play. Do you seriously think Ream is the answer ?
Another one that gets a lot of abuse for some unknown reason but I think Tim is still more then capable
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam
Quote from: Whitestone on July 31, 2021, 08:03:06 PM
Quote from: WokingFFC on July 31, 2021, 07:43:11 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on July 31, 2021, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 31, 2021, 07:18:18 PM
Didn't see any mistakes today?
Maybe not. I didn't watch the game. Cast you mind back to the season before last.
When we got promoted with him in the team?
Oh, come on. Yes, we got promoted with him despite everything. We hardly set the league alight. Granted that had a lot to do with the style of play. Do you seriously think Ream is the answer ?
TBF I understand your initial response, and thank you for sharing your thoughts. I think Tim rightfully has a place in our squad this season so long as he can maintain his "rock" status of us. He's a seasoned, weathered pro who has gotten us promoted twice. Is he the future? By no means. Is he the present and a vital member of the squad over a long season with much more to give? Yes he is. Look at that bloke winning a Euro with Italy and playing in the Italian league until 36-37. Is that Ream? Probably not, but he just needs to adapt his game as he ages... he's still a solid championship player.
He has been terrific for us and I would be more than happy with him at left centre back this season. He can definitely do a good job for us there in the championship. If we are looking to cement a partnership this season for a return to the Premiership next season then we need to look at alternatives. In the latter scenario he would be great cover in the event of injuries. Whatever people think he should be treated with respect and dignity- as should all of our players when we are discussing them on these threads.
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on July 31, 2021, 06:14:27 PM
Think he was great today, but last championship season he was caught out a fair few times.
Charlton are probably about the level of a a lower half championship team which is where his level is probably at now. With that said would be more than happy for him to prove me wrong against better teams this season.
Charlton are a League 1 team.
Ridiculous that he gets so much stick from Twitter morons. He was perfectly decent when he featured for us last season, particularly in the cup and at Man U. Even at the start of the season he was leagues better than Odoi and Hector. At 33 he remains better than both of them and I suspect he will get the nod from Silva to start alongside Tosin this season.
I love Ream, lovely guy, done so much for the club. Do I think he's a championship quality CB? No. But come August 8th, if Silva picks him in his starting line up. I'll be shocked but I'll also come to terms with the fact that it must be me who's wrong, if SJ, SP, MS etc. Keep picking him
Quote from: Dunstable Fulham on July 31, 2021, 08:49:48 PM
He has been terrific for us and I would be more than happy with him at left centre back this season. He can definitely do a good job for us there in the championship. If we are looking to cement a partnership this season for a return to the Premiership next season then we need to look at alternatives. In the latter scenario he would be great cover in the event of injuries. Whatever people think he should be treated with respect and dignity- as should all of our players when we are discussing them on these threads.
I completely agree.
I appreciate his loyalty to the club and his composure and expertise but whilst he has been a reliable player for us in the past he's just not as reliable now and we need to start looking past him to a future.
I think we need to be looking at a younger captain who may relish the opportunity and still has a lot to prove and gain, someone like tosin in the near future (don't think hes ready now). I appreciate ream had a captains sensibilities and a good head on his shoulder but so do others in the squad and there's only one captain place. He can be just as effective without being an official captain, which comes with certain on field pressures and extra scrutiny which I don't think he'll stand up to as easily this season. Also, with the likes of tosin, kongolo and mawson - all younger and with more to offer long term I think we may start to see him play less.
Quote from: General on July 31, 2021, 09:12:52 PM
I appreciate his loyalty to the club and his composure and expertise but whilst he has been a reliable player for us in the past he's just not as reliable now and we need to start looking past him to a future.
I think we need to be looking at a younger captain who may relish the opportunity and still has a lot to prove and gain, someone like tosin in the near future (don't think hes ready now). I appreciate ream had a captains sensibilities and a good head on his shoulder but so do others in the squad and there's only one captain place. He can be just as effective without being an official captain, which comes with certain on field pressures and extra scrutiny which I don't think he'll stand up to as easily this season. Also, with the likes of tosin, kongolo and mawson - all younger and with more to offer long term I think we may start to see him play less.
Spot on
Bottom line, played really well well today and was cool calm on the ball as always and defended very well.
Another good performance today from Tim Ream and of course he is the man to be captain for the season, who else.
I note most posts are positive in regard to Tim Ream but he will
cost us points in this division for sure as her makes poor decisions
although I agree he is a good professional player but we need better still.
Quote from: JEEVES on July 31, 2021, 09:09:10 PM
I love Ream, lovely guy, done so much for the club. Do I think he's a championship quality CB? No. But come August 8th, if Silva picks him in his starting line up. I'll be shocked but I'll also come to
terms with the fact that it must be me who's wrong, if SJ, SP, MS etc. Keep picking him
How can you say he's not championship quality ? on his day he's a good premiership center back
Yes I agree Inspite of the flack he gets I think his thought and passing is certainly good enough for the championship. If we can get somebody better then fine but if not he isn't someone I would urgently be looking to replace
I thought he was good today with none of the mistakes that he has been prone to in the past. However, he was never pressed in the way he has been. Having said that, he also did not dwell on the ball which meant he wasn't a "sitting duck" for pressure. Perhaps that is one of the changes that Silva has brought.
Come on, so he looked OK today in a friendly against a league one team? Great. But he has got and will continue to get ripped apart by any top half Championship striker wuth a bit of pace or strength and is about as well equipped for the PL as Mark Fotheringham. Good servant? Yes. 3rd or 4th choice CB whilst we're in the Championship? OK, just about. Nothing more please.
Quote from: perry geyton on July 31, 2021, 10:02:43 PM
Quote from: JEEVES on July 31, 2021, 09:09:10 PM
I love Ream, lovely guy, done so much for the club. Do I think he's a championship quality CB? No. But come August 8th, if Silva picks him in his starting line up. I'll be shocked but I'll also come to
terms with the fact that it must be me who's wrong, if SJ, SP, MS etc. Keep picking him
How can you say he's not championship quality ? on his day he's a good premiership center back
Oh I think he's terrible. I'd be lying if I said I thought he was any good. I do love him though. Great guy, great servant to our club. Terrible CB, awful infact. hard to name someone in the last decade who can be taken apart as quickly as him in the prem.
But yeah I love Tim. Was singing Reeeeeam at th game today but that's just banter.
Quote from: JEEVES on July 31, 2021, 11:28:52 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on July 31, 2021, 10:02:43 PM
Quote from: JEEVES on July 31, 2021, 09:09:10 PM
I love Ream, lovely guy, done so much for the club. Do I think he's a championship quality CB? No. But come August 8th, if Silva picks him in his starting line up. I'll be shocked but I'll also come to
terms with the fact that it must be me who's wrong, if SJ, SP, MS etc. Keep picking him
How can you say he's not championship quality ? on his day he's a good premiership center back
Oh I think he's terrible. I'd be lying if I said I thought he was any good. I do love him though. Great guy, great servant to our club. Terrible CB, awful infact. hard to name someone in the last decade who can be taken apart as quickly as him in the prem.
But yeah I love Tim. Was singing Reeeeeam at th game today but that's just banter.
Absolutely baffled by this opinion. His performances at centre back were significantly better than Odoi and Hector last season alone, let alone the last decade. He was pretty decent actually. Not starter level but certainly good enough for forth choice, which is what he was.
Quote from: Whitestone on July 31, 2021, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on July 31, 2021, 06:14:27 PM
Think he was great today, but last championship season he was caught out a fair few times.
Charlton are probably about the level of a a lower half championship team which is where his level is probably at now. With that said would be more than happy for him to prove me wrong against better teams this season.
Charlton are a League 1 team.
Only just missed out on playoffs. I think there is an overlap between bottom half of the league above and the top of the league below. Otherwise every promoted team would always get relegated. But that's just my opinion
Ha!!! I'll have what this guy is smoking!
He's a good squad player who will play his part this year if he can regain his best form. I take wagers, pm me.
Why did you post this now? Did you miss 3.5 years of mediocrity?
When this guy does eventually leave us, then he should be afforded the same level of respect as StefJo and KMac, no question.
He has been an absolutely fantastic servant for this club.
Quote from: The Rock on August 01, 2021, 12:23:31 AM
Ha!!! I'll have what this guy is smoking!
He's a good squad player who will play his part this year if he can regain his best form. I take wagers, pm me.
Why did you post this now? Did you miss 3.5 years of mediocrity?
Well this is a bit a pathetic. Did I miss 3.5 years of solid defensive work and two promotions? Yes, I did in fact watch all of them. Also, seeing as that he's been with the club going on six years and being a constant rock in every squad, you should have your noggin checked, mate. Get a load of this guy. The point of the post was to highlight that he's nearly played 200 games for us with wonderful professionalism. You never hear a peep about him, and he just gets on with his job even when left out for periods of time and comes back ready to go when called upon. Have some respect for a cult legend, and someone who deserves as much respect if not more than the likes of StefJo (although I did love the king of shithousery)
Ream is a good bloke and excellent with the ball but not part of a defence moving forward that we can take with us into the premiership. Like Ream but not PL class,simple.
The guy is a great human being and a top pro.Every season there's his usual knockers and doubters but no matter the manager they all select him.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 31, 2021, 07:18:18 PM
Didn't see any Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 31, 2021, 07:18:18 PM
Didn't see any mistakes today?
I wouldn't say he made mistakes but his passing today was poor. Trying 30/40 yard passes is not in his repertoire.
Quote from: KJS on July 31, 2021, 06:16:22 PM
Played well with Tosin thought Robinson was not up for it today though
Thought Tim played well although when put under pressure with a high pressing line doesn't seem to clear the ball quickly enough. Agree about Robinson the Charlton number 7 gave him a merry dance, although going forward he did all right. But if you look at the forward play between him and Joe Bryan thought Joe was better and as unlucky with his shot.
Quote from: perry geyton on July 31, 2021, 08:37:10 PM
Another one that gets a lot of abuse for some unknown reason but I think Tim is still more then capable
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam
Are you in the early stages of pregnancy Piri?
Fella doesn't deserve any stick whatsoever, been a great servant to the club and a great professional. I seem to recall him being our player of the year under Joka, and I think he's more than capable at this level. However, he must never be allowed anywhere near the first XI ever again should we get promoted. He and Odoi looked like the chuckle brothers in the PL, and he's nowhere near good enough
Quote from: MartyFFC on August 01, 2021, 11:49:00 AM
Fella doesn't deserve any stick whatsoever, been a great servant to the club and a great professional. I seem to recall him being our player of the year under Joka, and I think he's more than capable at this level. However, he must never be allowed anywhere near the first XI ever again should we get promoted. He and Odoi looked like the chuckle brothers in the PL, and he's nowhere near good enough
Alongside Hector at the start of the season he looked the better of the two, though admit that neither looked good enough for the Prem.
But alongside Tosin at the end of the season at Man U, he looked pretty good, and he did a good job yesterday.
Though we obviously need a new cb if thinking of a team for the Prem.
Though we have a few cb's on the books! Who will feature this season? who will stay fit enough?
Faultless & commanding yesterday. Struck up a good partnership with Tosin. He even had to keep an eye out for Robinson who was caught outseveral times in dangerous situations.
A decent championship defender and loyal Fulham man.
Sorry everyone; I have no appreciation for Ream now !! Like Odoi, his day was done for me a few seasons ago !! Time to move forward .... Keeping Ream and losing Hector makes no sense to me; He tor was purchased as none of our centre backs were up to the last Championship challenge
For people saying he's not a premier league starter:
1) we are not a premier league team this season
2) when we were last season, we were a relegation scrap side. We are not Man City and we're never going to have the luxury of having four or five premier league starter level centre backs in the books. Never in our history of being a premier league team did we ever have that kind of depth. Even in the glory days of Hangeland and Hughes, our third choice guy was Senderos, who Ream is probably better than.
I literally don't know what you're expecting here. It's completely delusional and the guy is obviously good enough to feature as a rotation guy for us, in the position we are on now. He would probably start for every other championship side in fact.
havnt read every reply on this post but hes been a great servant to the club . and yest nit pickin there was a few slip ups 2 seasons ago , we all make slip ups ----thats why they sell prams ---- i like him and am glad hes there this season coming .
Ream's major weakness is lack of quickness. Speed can be negated to some degree by positioning and physicality. Quickness, or the first two steps, is something that is God given and can't be taught. A defender can push the attacker towards his fellow CB but if the center mate is out of position you look the fool as a quick striker leaves you in the dust. Some call it being out of position. Position is your location in relation to your defensive mates. If one or more of them is out of position, then everyone is. That isn't going to get any better. Brede wasn't quick but Aaron was and the two formed that wonderful Thames Barrier. If Tosin has a good season and the two complement each other, than Ream will have a good season. If not, I'm sure he'll get blasted in these pages.
COYW!
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 01, 2021, 05:31:25 PM
Ream's major weakness is lack of quickness. Speed can be negated to some degree by positioning and physicality. Quickness, or the first two steps, is something that is God given and can't be taught. A defender can push the attacker towards his fellow CB but if the center mate is out of position you look the fool as a quick striker leaves you in the dust. Some call it being out of position. Position is your location in relation to your defensive mates. If one or more of them is out of position, then everyone is. That isn't going to get any better. Brede wasn't quick but Aaron was and the two formed that wonderful Thames Barrier. If Tosin has a good season and the two complement each other, than Ream will have a good season. If not, I'm sure he'll get blasted in these pages.
COYW!
100% :54:
Quote from: RaySmith on July 31, 2021, 06:59:48 PM
Agree with the OP.
Carried on from where he left off last season away to Man U.
Exactly
Is this the same Ream that would give away at least one goal scoring opportunity every match and that all and sundry on here were slating for it? Come on he's close to his sell by date along with the dodgy knee clubbers. Get rid of him and them and let's build a team that will just need a few additions when we go up to make us solid enough to stay up.
Quote from: blingo on August 01, 2021, 06:43:09 PM
Is this the same Ream that would give away at least one goal scoring opportunity every match and that all and sundry on here were slating for it? Come on he's close to his sell by date along with the dodgy knee clubbers. Get rid of him and them and let's build a team that will just need a few additions when we go up to make us solid enough to stay up.
Is this post from 2019, or 2021? Hard to tell, but we keep holding on to him probably because of his wages. As many have said he is a decent Championship defender, and sure he's been loyal, but he's still past his sell date and as I mentioned it's been about 3.5 years (and 2? relegations) we've needed better. We are stuck for one more year it looks like with FFP.
So you agree with me Mr Rock.
Thought Ream was really solid Saturday it's nice to see him playing well has always been a great servant for us
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 01, 2021, 05:31:25 PM
Ream's major weakness is lack of quickness. Speed can be negated to some degree by positioning and physicality. Quickness, or the first two steps, is something that is God given and can't be taught. A defender can push the attacker towards his fellow CB but if the center mate is out of position you look the fool as a quick striker leaves you in the dust. Some call it being out of position. Position is your location in relation to your defensive mates. If one or more of them is out of position, then everyone is. That isn't going to get any better. Brede wasn't quick but Aaron was and the two formed that wonderful Thames Barrier. If Tosin has a good season and the two complement each other, than Ream will have a good season. If not, I'm sure he'll get blasted in these pages.
COYW!
My biggest gripe with him in recent seasons is not his physical speed, but his mental speed, inasmuch that often when he receives the ball he has not already determined possible lay-offs, and as such he is open to being mugged by a quick opposing player, or he then is pushed into rushing a lay-off that might, or might not, actually be successful.
No argument that he has been a great servant to the club, but unfortunately sentimentality has no place in the modern game of footie.
Ream is experienced, sensible and good positionally. He will be really dependable with Tosin.He can bring the ball out and nine times out of ten does the right thing.He is worth extra points for morale, leadership and effort. 100% player, prefer an all effort guy like him any day to the fair weather fancy boys.
If Ream is picked v Middlesborough I shall have no problem with that and I hope he does well, and if he earns his spot as a regular then he is playing well and hopefully so will Fulham. There is healthy competition for places so everyone should be on their toes.
