I have steared clear of posting for a while because people didn't want to hear whgat I was saying but the season is starting next weekend...
We were relegated in april
we had loads of time to take advantage of the situation
we didn't get a new manager until july and with just a few days to the new season have brought in just two players.
we still have no proper back up for mitro
This is poor by any standard.
We may go on and win the league and be undefeated and we will all be thrilled, but it will be luck rather than good judgment.
I have no oidea what will happen... the squad looks OK on paper but the same problems exist as when slav took over. If Silva is a magician it may be OK but that remains to be seen.
I am so disapointed that no lewssons seem to have been learned and we are carrying on as usual just with a new manager.
I think I agree with this but on the other hand we seem to be within a nats whisker of signing a new striker and a midfield general and holding on to our best players.
Lets hold back on the criticism until the window closes and meanwhile get right behind the new manager.
Quote from: ALG01 on August 03, 2021, 09:58:52 AM
I have steared clear of posting for a while because people didn't want to hear whgat I was saying but the season is starting next weekend...
We were relegated in april
we had loads of time to take advantage of the situation
we didn't get a new manager until july and with just a few days to the new season have brought in just two players.
we still have no proper back up for mitro
This is poor by any standard.
We may go on and win the league and be undefeated and we will all be thrilled, but it will be luck rather than good judgment.
I have no oidea what will happen... the squad looks OK on paper but the same problems exist as when slav took over. If Silva is a magician it may be OK but that remains to be seen.
I am so disapointed that no lewssons seem to have been learned and we are carrying on as usual just with a new manager.
I disagree with this, the back up striker is in the pipeline, it's just being held up by Covid. Another CM is hopefully on the way in with Grimes. We were obviously at a slight disadvantage by how late Silva came in, but there are signs that the manager is heavily involved in the recruitment
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Normally I complain about business being done too late, but IMO we need between zero and (at most) two more additions of starting XI quality - probably another CM and maybe another forward. It sounds like either or both of those are very close in Muniz and Grimes. Any other activity will just be offloading players and maybe padding out the squad with a couple of prospects.
Let's say we sign Muniz this week and Grimes next week, and no one else. That would be fine IMO and it would mean 3 out of 4, so 75% of our incoming business, was done before the season started. When was the last time we could say that?
TK has also stayed off Twitter which is another big lesson learned.
Progress.
I'm slightly disappointed too. In particular I think we saw last season that if TC is out none of our squad are capable of covering that creative attacking midfield role. Perhaps TC is close to a return in which case, no problem but if he's still struggling then I think we need to have brought in cover for that role.
If Muniz signs, as seems likely, then we have striking cover, especially with some of our young talent coming through. To me midfield seems the issue, Grimes seems further off being a done deal and even if we get him I have been struggling a little to see just how he fits in and how we replace/ cover the TC role.
For me Carvalho has shown he more than deserves the chance to be TC's replacement and currently in midfield, fighting for 2 places we have Anguissa, Reed, Seri, Francois and Onomah. Not sure we need Grimes unless players are leaving. Totally agree that we need a Mitro replacement, it's a huge risk relying on him as he still does not look right. We need a Championship ready striker like Armstrong and then off-load MLM, 2 wide players, Fabri and maybe one of two others. We do not need much more change, far more important to get current players playing to the new more direct approach correctly.
I have agreed with many of your posts regarding TK and recruitment in the past but even TK can't be blamed for covid. He can of course be blamed for the way he threw away money three years ago which still cripples us financially but under the circumstances I think the club has done ok. I'm sure we will sign more players soon. The manager seems to be more involved in recruitment now. TK is either relieved of his duties or has been told to keep a lower profile on social media. It's not perfect but we seem to be heading in the right direction.
Personally I don't think our squad looks strong enough for promotion just yet but the transfer window is still open. I expect at least 2 more signings (Muniz + Grimes or some other midfielder) plus a couple of loans. Of course one or two players will probably have to leave as well to avoid problems with FFP so there's always a chance we will end up with a weaker squad when the window slams shut.
Still, I haven't felt this optimistic since the Jokanovic era and I really look forward to this season!
Quote from: FulhamStu on August 03, 2021, 11:03:53 AM
For me Carvalho has shown he more than deserves the chance to be TC's replacement and currently in midfield, fighting for 2 places we have Anguissa, Reed, Seri, Francois and Onomah. Not sure we need Grimes unless players are leaving. Totally agree that we need a Mitro replacement, it's a huge risk relying on him as he still does not look right. We need a Championship ready striker like Armstrong and then off-load MLM, 2 wide players, Fabri and maybe one of two others. We do not need much more change, far more important to get current players playing to the new more direct approach correctly.
We're not going to get a championship ready (or proven striker at this level) though unless we sell Mitro. Armstrong isn't being sold for less than £20m and nobody that wants to be a starter is going to join us while we have Mitro because he's #1 and we only play one striker so whoever comes in would be backup unless Mitro gets injured. We've also only got 5 wingers so we don't want to be selling any of them because you need depth in the wide positions in case we get injuries, which over a 48 game minimum season is undoubtedly going to happen.
This take is way off for me
This squad as it is has more than enough quality to blitz this league.
2 great GKs
Defence will be by far one of the best in the league on paper
Midfield has tons of quality at this level and mist of of them would warrant a place in most top 6 championship teams
Up front we are light...but where have you been? It appears we would have signed Muniz if it weren't for Covid so well crack on with Mitro up top until he arrives.
If wed sold half the team fine but weve got a manager in place with plenty time to get working with the squad, were seeing more direct attacking movement already in the patterns of play.
As for poster above talking about Cairney replacement -Carvalho looks every bit capable of stepping up at this point but agree cover there would be nice if Seri is off...but ya never know Silva may see something in Seri too, and if he can refind some form hed be more than good enough for the championship.
Personally I'd like a better wing option than Cav/Knock/Kebano/Kamara so we could sell one or 2 of them.
But otherwise were doing just fine.
We would have signed at least 3 players pre first week of the season if it weren't for muniz positive test. And Grimes is another potential in.
The idea that if we win the league will be down to luck is such a cheap way of giving no credit if we do. What a cop out
If Silva takes us up in autos itll have been a good appointment from the board to work with a talented squad more than good enough for this league
Try and enjoy life it's not that deep.
Quote from: ALG01 on August 03, 2021, 09:58:52 AM
We were relegated in april
we had loads of time to take advantage of the situation
I am of the view you will always be disappointed when your analysis is so shallow as to extend no further than this.
For example, when Harry Wilson arrived in the third week of July, I saw you grumble that we hadn't moved to sign him at the start of the month. This was, however, an unfair criticism. Having played in the European Championships, Wilson was entitled to a three-week break before resuming training; even had we signed him on the 1st July, he still wouldn't have joined up with the rest of the squad sooner than he did.
You say our transfer window is 'poor by any standard'. It's poor by
your standard - and the criterion (for there does only appear to be just one) for your judgement is a simplistic one. This is your entitlement, of course, but a broader view might help to put it into a more accurate perspective.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 03, 2021, 11:09:24 AM
I have agreed with many of your posts regarding TK and recruitment in the past but even TK can't be blamed for covid. He can of course be blamed for the way he threw away money three years ago which still cripples us financially but under the circumstances I think the club has done ok. I'm sure we will sign more players soon. The manager seems to be more involved in recruitment now. TK is either relieved of his duties or has been told to keep a lower profile on social media. It's not perfect but we seem to be heading in the right direction.
Personally I don't think our squad looks strong enough for promotion just yet but the transfer window is still open. I expect at least 2 more signings (Muniz + Grimes or some other midfielder) plus a couple of loans. Of course one or two players will probably have to leave as well to avoid problems with FFP so there's always a chance we will end up with a weaker squad when the window slams shut.
Still, I haven't felt this optimistic since the Jokanovic era and I really look forward to this season!
Gazzaniga/Rodak
Tete
Kongolo/tosin/mawson/ream
Robinson/Bryan
Anguissa/Reed
Cairney/Seri/Carvalho
Wilson/Cav
Mitro / (Muniz in a week?)
If that's not a good enough bunch to get promoted in the championship I dont know what is. That's a top quality Championship team as it is.
I'd like another high quality winger personally but we have ore than enough with a good manager to fight for autos as things stand
I agree that in theory we should have brought in more players to freshen up the squad, but the problem is that our squad is way too big, so we need to offload at least 5-6 players before we can justify bringing more in. As of this date, I think that the only outgoings are Fossey and Opoku on loan - but these two represent minimal sums in respect of the salary bill and of course zero in respect of transfer fees.
If it was my choice - I would try and sell Anguissa for as high a fee as possible. He is probably our most saleable asset and not someone I see as essential to the squad compared to our next most saleable players - Mitro, Tosin, Cairney and Reed. I think that would give us some breathing space from an FFP perspective and release some of the pressure that I think there is in getting other high salaried players like Seri of the wage bill..
Assuming Muniz comes in then I think the only essential signing is another central midfielder - someone that does have some goal threat (in the same vein as Johansen) and can potentially cover Reed or Cairney.
Quote from: jayffc on August 03, 2021, 11:19:53 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 03, 2021, 11:09:24 AM
I have agreed with many of your posts regarding TK and recruitment in the past but even TK can't be blamed for covid. He can of course be blamed for the way he threw away money three years ago which still cripples us financially but under the circumstances I think the club has done ok. I'm sure we will sign more players soon. The manager seems to be more involved in recruitment now. TK is either relieved of his duties or has been told to keep a lower profile on social media. It's not perfect but we seem to be heading in the right direction.
Personally I don't think our squad looks strong enough for promotion just yet but the transfer window is still open. I expect at least 2 more signings (Muniz + Grimes or some other midfielder) plus a couple of loans. Of course one or two players will probably have to leave as well to avoid problems with FFP so there's always a chance we will end up with a weaker squad when the window slams shut.
Still, I haven't felt this optimistic since the Jokanovic era and I really look forward to this season!
Gazzaniga/Rodak
Tete
Kongolo/tosin/mawson/ream
Robinson/Bryan
Anguissa/Reed
Cairney/Seri/Carvalho
Wilson/Cav
Mitro / (Muniz in a week?)
If that's not a good enough bunch to get promoted in the championship I dont know what is. That's a top quality Championship team as it is.
I'd like another high quality winger personally but we have ore than enough with a good manager to fight for autos as things stand
Also forgot to mention decordova - who is more than capable of doing a job at this level :54:
Quote from: jayffc on August 03, 2021, 11:19:53 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 03, 2021, 11:09:24 AM
I have agreed with many of your posts regarding TK and recruitment in the past but even TK can't be blamed for covid. He can of course be blamed for the way he threw away money three years ago which still cripples us financially but under the circumstances I think the club has done ok. I'm sure we will sign more players soon. The manager seems to be more involved in recruitment now. TK is either relieved of his duties or has been told to keep a lower profile on social media. It's not perfect but we seem to be heading in the right direction.
Personally I don't think our squad looks strong enough for promotion just yet but the transfer window is still open. I expect at least 2 more signings (Muniz + Grimes or some other midfielder) plus a couple of loans. Of course one or two players will probably have to leave as well to avoid problems with FFP so there's always a chance we will end up with a weaker squad when the window slams shut.
Still, I haven't felt this optimistic since the Jokanovic era and I really look forward to this season!
Gazzaniga/Rodak
Tete
Kongolo/tosin/mawson/ream
Robinson/Bryan
Anguissa/Reed
Cairney/Seri/Carvalho
Wilson/Cav
Mitro / (Muniz in a week?)
If that's not a good enough bunch to get promoted in the championship I dont know what is. That's a top quality Championship team as it is.
I'd like another high quality winger personally but we have ore than enough with a good manager to fight for autos as things stand
Kongolo, Mawson and Cairney are lacking match fitness and I will be surprised if the three of them combined will play much more than 30 games.
Ream isn't good enough to be a regular starter in a team seeking promotion.
Anguissa will most likely be sold.
Carvalho looks very promising but is unproven at this level and we can't rely on a youngster to play 46 league games.
Mitro hasn't been on fire for over a year.
We may look strong on paper but I still feel we're not quite strong enough. At least not for automatic and the playoffs will always be a lottery.
Is it any wonder you think people are not interested in hearing your views when you write such drivel as winning the league undefeated would be more by luck then design? EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion but that is borderline absurd!
Deeping_White was spot on with his above analysis.
Honestly, it's entirely of your own doing when you put a target on your back like that
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 03, 2021, 11:31:25 AM
Quote from: jayffc on August 03, 2021, 11:19:53 AM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 03, 2021, 11:09:24 AM
I have agreed with many of your posts regarding TK and recruitment in the past but even TK can't be blamed for covid. He can of course be blamed for the way he threw away money three years ago which still cripples us financially but under the circumstances I think the club has done ok. I'm sure we will sign more players soon. The manager seems to be more involved in recruitment now. TK is either relieved of his duties or has been told to keep a lower profile on social media. It's not perfect but we seem to be heading in the right direction.
Personally I don't think our squad looks strong enough for promotion just yet but the transfer window is still open. I expect at least 2 more signings (Muniz + Grimes or some other midfielder) plus a couple of loans. Of course one or two players will probably have to leave as well to avoid problems with FFP so there's always a chance we will end up with a weaker squad when the window slams shut.
Still, I haven't felt this optimistic since the Jokanovic era and I really look forward to this season!
Gazzaniga/Rodak
Tete
Kongolo/tosin/mawson/ream
Robinson/Bryan
Anguissa/Reed
Cairney/Seri/Carvalho
Wilson/Cav
Mitro / (Muniz in a week?)
If that's not a good enough bunch to get promoted in the championship I dont know what is. That's a top quality Championship team as it is.
I'd like another high quality winger personally but we have ore than enough with a good manager to fight for autos as things stand
Kongolo, Mawson and Cairney are lacking match fitness and I will be surprised if the three of them combined will play much more than 30 games.
Ream isn't good enough to be a regular starter in a team seeking promotion.
Anguissa will most likely be sold.
Carvalho looks very promising but is unproven at this level and we can't rely on a youngster to play 46 league games.
Mitro hasn't been on fire for over a year.
We may look strong on paper but I still feel we're not quite strong enough. At least not for automatic and the playoffs will always be a lottery.
Agree with S F Sorrow here, although not sure Anguissa will go anywhere. Our squad is too big imo but we can only offload players if other clubs want them.
I am disappointed that we haven't a starting 11 with several players who are good enough to play Prem football and brought in top quality players. But then the practicalities of doing that always outweigh the ignorant supporter who wantsa everything done and dusted.
When the window shuts and we wonder why we haven't a decent striker and we have injured centre backs and Covid has destroyed our midfield. I will complain then. But right now I think patience is always handy.
Once we get another Forward (Muniz or other) i think we are ok, altough we do need to replace the likes of Zambo if he leaves.
One of the reasons i think we will be ok is that i suspect that our competition will lose the below players before the window is closing; She U (Ramsdale, Berge), Bmouth (Lerma, Billing, Danjuma), WBA (Johnstone, Pereira).
I am disappointed that there are still the usual negative posters before the season has started & before the window has closed. Give the manager, players & recruitment team your support or stump up the money to buy out the Khans & see if you can do a better job.
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on August 03, 2021, 10:10:34 AM
Quote from: ALG01 on August 03, 2021, 09:58:52 AM
I have steared clear of posting for a while because people didn't want to hear whgat I was saying but the season is starting next weekend...
We were relegated in april
we had loads of time to take advantage of the situation
we didn't get a new manager until july and with just a few days to the new season have brought in just two players.
we still have no proper back up for mitro
This is poor by any standard.
We may go on and win the league and be undefeated and we will all be thrilled, but it will be luck rather than good judgment.
I have no oidea what will happen... the squad looks OK on paper but the same problems exist as when slav took over. If Silva is a magician it may be OK but that remains to be seen.
I am so disapointed that no lewssons seem to have been learned and we are carrying on as usual just with a new manager.
I disagree with this, the back up striker is in the pipeline, it's just being held up by Covid. Another CM is hopefully on the way in with Grimes. We were obviously at a slight disadvantage by how late Silva came in, but there are signs that the manager is heavily involved in the recruitment
Exactly so, you hit the nail on the head. A disadvantage at the late arrival of the manager meaning pre season had started. we are told there is a young brazilian that nobody has seen in the flesh (if I have read the comments correctly, please advise if I have that wrong) on his way but not confirmed AND Grimes, another that is not confirmed. These guys shoulkd have been here 1st July.
Season starts Sunday and we were relegated in April and still messing about. I wan twhat is best, I am not sure that is what is happening.
Quote from: grandad on August 03, 2021, 12:45:43 PM
I am disappointed that there are still the usual negative posters before the season has started & before the window has closed. Give the manager, players & recruitment team your support or stump up the money to buy out the Khans & see if you can do a better job.
Oh dear. Are you sure?
relegated in April and still not got a proper squad less than a week before the season starts.
I am suprised you think that is a satisfactory state of affairs.
if we do well brilliant but we are still where we were when slav was complaining. We surely have toi be better than this.
They have my money for a ST as usual, I will still have ST long after the owner sells the club. I am entiled to be disapointed.
If I had the money I would do a better job, but funds are bit limted currently.
One thing that has clearly not happened in good time is the appointment of a new Head of Scouting
There was a facinating Podcast by Fulham Focus where the FFP was described and explained. If you understand this you would understand better why it is more difficult to just bring in players than you may think.
Quote from: ALG01 on August 03, 2021, 01:21:38 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on August 03, 2021, 10:10:34 AM
Quote from: ALG01 on August 03, 2021, 09:58:52 AM
I have steared clear of posting for a while because people didn't want to hear whgat I was saying but the season is starting next weekend...
We were relegated in april
we had loads of time to take advantage of the situation
we didn't get a new manager until july and with just a few days to the new season have brought in just two players.
we still have no proper back up for mitro
This is poor by any standard.
We may go on and win the league and be undefeated and we will all be thrilled, but it will be luck rather than good judgment.
I have no oidea what will happen... the squad looks OK on paper but the same problems exist as when slav took over. If Silva is a magician it may be OK but that remains to be seen.
I am so disapointed that no lewssons seem to have been learned and we are carrying on as usual just with a new manager.
I disagree with this, the back up striker is in the pipeline, it's just being held up by Covid. Another CM is hopefully on the way in with Grimes. We were obviously at a slight disadvantage by how late Silva came in, but there are signs that the manager is heavily involved in the recruitment
Exactly so, you hit the nail on the head. A disadvantage at the late arrival of the manager meaning pre season had started. we are told there is a young brazilian that nobody has seen in the flesh (if I have read the comments correctly, please advise if I have that wrong) on his way but not confirmed AND Grimes, another that is not confirmed. These guys shoulkd have been here 1st July.
Season starts Sunday and we were relegated in April and still messing about. I wan twhat is best, I am not sure that is what is happening.
Do you understand how negotiations work for transfers or do you just assume that if Fulham want a player, the team he plays for are obligated to sell him to us as soon as we make contact? We're currently a bigger club than most in England (in terms of wealth and position in the footballing pyramid) and we need players of certain quality to get us back to the PL - those players are likely to cost more money, and/or be in demand because other teams at the bottom of the PL who want to consolidate, or teams at the top of the championship who want to get promoted are interested in them as well. It's not like Ali Mac rings up Swansea and goes "alright lads I'm buying Grimes off you for £3m, I'll send the paperwork over in 5 mins so can you have him down at Motspur for his medical at 09:00 tomorrow and you're not allowed to say no, AND he's got no choice about it either even though Brigton and Watford are interested in him and they're in the league above us". You've ignored the point about Wilson made by other posters (deliberately I'm sure because it disproves your rant) because we physically couldn't have signed him any sooner as he was on holiday after international duty. If you actually go and listen to him talk in his first FFC interview, he basically says that we were trying to get him to sign for us when he was on holiday so how much sooner are we meant to have bought him?
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 03, 2021, 02:05:09 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on August 03, 2021, 01:21:38 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on August 03, 2021, 10:10:34 AM
Quote from: ALG01 on August 03, 2021, 09:58:52 AM
I have steared clear of posting for a while because people didn't want to hear whgat I was saying but the season is starting next weekend...
We were relegated in april
we had loads of time to take advantage of the situation
we didn't get a new manager until july and with just a few days to the new season have brought in just two players.
we still have no proper back up for mitro
This is poor by any standard.
We may go on and win the league and be undefeated and we will all be thrilled, but it will be luck rather than good judgment.
I have no oidea what will happen... the squad looks OK on paper but the same problems exist as when slav took over. If Silva is a magician it may be OK but that remains to be seen.
I am so disapointed that no lewssons seem to have been learned and we are carrying on as usual just with a new manager.
I disagree with this, the back up striker is in the pipeline, it's just being held up by Covid. Another CM is hopefully on the way in with Grimes. We were obviously at a slight disadvantage by how late Silva came in, but there are signs that the manager is heavily involved in the recruitment
Exactly so, you hit the nail on the head. A disadvantage at the late arrival of the manager meaning pre season had started. we are told there is a young brazilian that nobody has seen in the flesh (if I have read the comments correctly, please advise if I have that wrong) on his way but not confirmed AND Grimes, another that is not confirmed. These guys shoulkd have been here 1st July.
Season starts Sunday and we were relegated in April and still messing about. I wan twhat is best, I am not sure that is what is happening.
Do you understand how negotiations work for transfers or do you just assume that if Fulham want a player, the team he plays for are obligated to sell him to us as soon as we make contact? We're currently a bigger club than most in England (in terms of wealth and position in the footballing pyramid) and we need players of certain quality to get us back to the PL - those players are likely to cost more money, and/or be in demand because other teams at the bottom of the PL who want to consolidate, or teams at the top of the championship who want to get promoted are interested in them as well. It's not like Ali Mac rings up Swansea and goes "alright lads I'm buying Grimes off you for £3m, I'll send the paperwork over in 5 mins so can you have him down at Motspur for his medical at 09:00 tomorrow and you're not allowed to say no, AND he's got no choice about it either even though Brigton and Watford are interested in him and they're in the league above us". You've ignored the point about Wilson made by other posters (deliberately I'm sure because it disproves your rant) because we physically couldn't have signed him any sooner as he was on holiday after international duty. If you actually go and listen to him talk in his first FFC interview, he basically says that we were trying to get him to sign for us when he was on holiday so how much sooner are we meant to have bought him?
Nearing the end of the transfer window we will lose some of our players to other teams. Those teams want our players right now. However, right now, we can play hard ball and ask top dollar. When they make a lower offer, we will reject it. Come to the last week of the window, we will get a bit jittery and by the last few days, these clubs will come in and offer much less than they would offer now. Unfortunately, we won't be in a strong negotiating position and the other clubs will get our players for considerably less than they would pay now. Those other clubs will feel rightly quite smug that they got a good deal.
In simple terms, right now it is a sellers market. In about 3 weeks it will be a buyers market.
But of course at Fulham, the rule is...It's Tony Khan's fault. He doesn't really post about us anymore because he gets pretty low dogs abuse
I am disappointed you didnt keep on staying clear of posting
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 03, 2021, 02:36:07 PM
I am disappointed you didnt keep on staying clear of posting
:plus one: :plus one: :plus one: :plus one: :plus one: :plus one: :plus one: :plus one:
Quote from: ALG01 on August 03, 2021, 01:21:38 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on August 03, 2021, 10:10:34 AM
Quote from: ALG01 on August 03, 2021, 09:58:52 AM
I have steared clear of posting for a while because people didn't want to hear whgat I was saying but the season is starting next weekend...
We were relegated in april
we had loads of time to take advantage of the situation
we didn't get a new manager until july and with just a few days to the new season have brought in just two players.
we still have no proper back up for mitro
This is poor by any standard.
We may go on and win the league and be undefeated and we will all be thrilled, but it will be luck rather than good judgment.
I have no oidea what will happen... the squad looks OK on paper but the same problems exist as when slav took over. If Silva is a magician it may be OK but that remains to be seen.
I am so disapointed that no lewssons seem to have been learned and we are carrying on as usual just with a new manager.
I disagree with this, the back up striker is in the pipeline, it's just being held up by Covid. Another CM is hopefully on the way in with Grimes. We were obviously at a slight disadvantage by how late Silva came in, but there are signs that the manager is heavily involved in the recruitment
Exactly so, you hit the nail on the head. A disadvantage at the late arrival of the manager meaning pre season had started. we are told there is a young brazilian that nobody has seen in the flesh (if I have read the comments correctly, please advise if I have that wrong) on his way but not confirmed AND Grimes, another that is not confirmed. These guys shoulkd have been here 1st July.
Season starts Sunday and we were relegated in April and still messing about. I wan twhat is best, I am not sure that is what is happening.
In fairness, whether you agree with the board decisions or not, it does seem like they had no intention of getting a new manager in.
That does seem to be a decision that was forced on them when Parker made it clear he wanted to leave. If it was our decision to replace him then I would completely go along with your interpretation of our preseason planning (or lack of).
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 03, 2021, 02:36:07 PM
I am disappointed you didnt keep on staying clear of posting
Thats harsh. You may not agree and he may have a bee in his bonnet but there's no really need for that, SW.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on August 03, 2021, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 03, 2021, 02:36:07 PM
I am disappointed you didnt keep on staying clear of posting
Thats harsh. You may not agree and he may have a bee in his bonnet but there's no really need for that, SW.
Somerset, he has his opinion, I have mine. Most of his posts are knocking the club or players.
I get that, I really do. But if you drive everybody away from a message board that doesn't agree with you (one), then you don't end up with much left.
I don't know at what stage Fulham knew Parker was definitely leaving so it's hard to comment on timing of his replacement. But I was pleased it was Silva rather than some of the other names being mentioned.
Lighthouse makes a valid point. We as supporters think we should be signing top players, but easier said than done, even if we can convince them that Fulham is their destination of choice.
But the squad as it stands is reasonably strong. I think the players are technically good enough to put us in contention, but there's more to it than that: organization, tactical nous, and commitment. The manager has to be responsible for the first two, but only the players can lend the third. We need the likes of Tosin, Anguissa, Wilson, and Mitro to be determined to show they have the quality of Premier League players in attitude as well as technique.
Quote from: 70sPimlico on August 03, 2021, 02:16:48 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 03, 2021, 02:05:09 PM
Do you understand how negotiations work for transfers or do you just assume that if Fulham want a player, the team he plays for are obligated to sell him to us as soon as we make contact? We're currently a bigger club than most in England (in terms of wealth and position in the footballing pyramid) and we need players of certain quality to get us back to the PL - those players are likely to cost more money, and/or be in demand because other teams at the bottom of the PL who want to consolidate, or teams at the top of the championship who want to get promoted are interested in them as well. It's not like Ali Mac rings up Swansea and goes "alright lads I'm buying Grimes off you for £3m, I'll send the paperwork over in 5 mins so can you have him down at Motspur for his medical at 09:00 tomorrow and you're not allowed to say no, AND he's got no choice about it either even though Brigton and Watford are interested in him and they're in the league above us". You've ignored the point about Wilson made by other posters (deliberately I'm sure because it disproves your rant) because we physically couldn't have signed him any sooner as he was on holiday after international duty. If you actually go and listen to him talk in his first FFC interview, he basically says that we were trying to get him to sign for us when he was on holiday so how much sooner are we meant to have bought him?
Nearing the end of the transfer window we will lose some of our players to other teams. Those teams want our players right now. However, right now, we can play hard ball and ask top dollar. When they make a lower offer, we will reject it. Come to the last week of the window, we will get a bit jittery and by the last few days, these clubs will come in and offer much less than they would offer now. Unfortunately, we won't be in a strong negotiating position and the other clubs will get our players for considerably less than they would pay now. Those other clubs will feel rightly quite smug that they got a good deal.
In simple terms, right now it is a sellers market. In about 3 weeks it will be a buyers market.
But of course at Fulham, the rule is...It's Tony Khan's fault. He doesn't really post about us anymore because he gets pretty low dogs abuse
As I said up the thread I don't think the OP's complaint is justified.
But I don't really buy these "you don't realise how complicated transfers are" arguments either.
It's just as complicated for every club and yet generally, we do our business later than most other clubs. So it can't just be attributed to the nature of transfers or the market.
As for it being a buyers' market at the end of the window, well you could easily argue the opposite - if you go into the final days of the window desperate to sign a striker, your bargaining position is just as week as someone desperately looking to offload one.
Quote from: ALG01 on August 03, 2021, 09:58:52 AM
I have steared clear of posting for a while because people didn't want to hear whgat I was saying but the season is starting next weekend...
We were relegated in april
we had loads of time to take advantage of the situation
we didn't get a new manager until july and with just a few days to the new season have brought in just two players.
we still have no proper back up for mitro
This is poor by any standard.
We may go on and win the league and be undefeated and we will all be thrilled, but it will be luck rather than good judgment.
I have no oidea what will happen... the squad looks OK on paper but the same problems exist as when slav took over. If Silva is a magician it may be OK but that remains to be seen.
I am so disapointed that no lewssons seem to have been learned and we are carrying on as usual just with a new manager.
If we win the league or win the league and go undefeated, that's down to luck? It's really down to money, but sure you can complain it wasn't spent perfectly to win the league more perfectly like you would have, if you were calling the shots perfectly.
Very happy with the new manager, the signings and the spotlight on youth.
Disappointed that so far that Fabri, FZA, Cavaleiro, Mawson, Seri, Knock, and MLM have not been shown the door and thanked for their services.
