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Title: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on September 24, 2021, 09:55:24 PM
They seem to have it figured out. They won't slip up to the likes of Blackpool it seems. Here's to hoping we figure ourselves out this weekend. Come on Marco and Lads!!
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: Sgt Fulham on September 24, 2021, 09:59:43 PM
They will all slip many times. If we're worried about those teams then we can forget automatic promotion anyway; we're better than the lot of them.
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: Blawarmy on September 24, 2021, 10:11:12 PM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on September 24, 2021, 09:59:43 PM
They will all slip many times. If we're worried about those teams then we can forget automatic promotion anyway; we're better than the lot of them.
If we can find consistency we'll piss this league. 
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: Whitestone on September 24, 2021, 11:36:07 PM
It's still very early days. Unlike the predictable Premier League the Championship takes about three months to settle down. I doubt Coventry will be anywhere near the top at the business end of the season. Consistency is the key and it's fair to say that no team has found it so far.
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: General on September 24, 2021, 11:45:08 PM
Yeah think it's still early.

Peterborough have shipped quite a few goals this season so a win against them isn't something that will be a good gauge of where a team is at. Coventry have also generally played lower league sides so far.

Dont forget just before games last week we were first and Bournemouth had just had a run of games where they'd got unconvincing results.

We were flying until we lost two games in a row - leeds (people don't seem to view that as a loss) and our last game in the league.

This game is important and indicative of what state we're genuinely in - whether our tactics are one dimensional and whether silva has been figured out. With our squad we shouldn't be losing three out of four in this league (it's better now than under Parker- who struggled more admittedly).


On top of all of that, under slavisa we only ever got going from dec/Jan and still managed to reach playoffs in most seasons under him.

Teams will not last whole season.. squad depth should play a key role.
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: fulhamfan on September 25, 2021, 12:05:31 AM
Coventry will fall away
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: The Rational Fan on September 25, 2021, 01:51:40 AM
Quote from: fulhamross on September 25, 2021, 12:05:31 AM
Coventry will fall away

If Coventry is a major challenge for our promotion and we get promoted, then next season we will get relegated.

This season has three levels of success i) we get promoted with a good chance of long term premier league future; ii) we get promoted knowing we need to use some of the budget to reinforce to stay a yo-yo team and iii) various versions of not getting promoted.
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: MartyFFC on September 25, 2021, 08:43:34 AM
9 games in and we've concluded Coventry won't slip up. Bizarre
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: legana on September 25, 2021, 08:51:18 AM
I don't like all the silly claims that we'll 'walk the league with record points', etc. The Championship is a tough league where the games come thick and fast and the refereeing isn't great. However, I think we will go up automatically as we have strength in depth that other teams don't and they will suffer more when key players are injured and trying to fit in two games a week during the winter...
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: Sting of the North on September 25, 2021, 08:53:48 AM
Quote from: MartyFFC on September 25, 2021, 08:43:34 AM
9 games in and we've concluded Coventry won't slip up. Bizarre

It's the same every season. Two years ago some posters thought Charlton would be fighting for automatic promotion because of a good start to the season... same with Reading I believe it was.
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: rebel on September 25, 2021, 09:47:55 AM
Silva needs to play a settled 11, build that platform, then if he introduces a squad player when needed we will do well. Understanding is the key to success. When we had the 4 wins I thought we were getting there, a bit of a shambles since then.
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: Andy S on September 25, 2021, 10:03:10 AM
It's much too early to talk about promotion.Anyone who does is only putting unnecessary pressure on themselves. The pressures on to start with as we were premier league last season so clubs base their season on beating us. Later on it is down to where we are in the table. It all means that we have to battle in every game as there are only minor differences between most clubs. Sometimes it's about where we are playing and when as well as who is injured and who is fit
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: H4usuallysitting on September 25, 2021, 10:06:15 AM
Coventry are having a nosebleed
WBA will be top 6
Boscombe will fall away
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on September 25, 2021, 10:13:29 AM
Sorry if this sounds harsh but I agree that the embarrassing naive nonsense sent by posters arrogantly claiming we will walk the League and break records of epic proportions was misguided.
Let us hope we never have to read that kind of drivel again.
The League Competition is not a sprint it is a marathon, and the further up the mountain you go, the more treacherous the path.
46 matches, 8/9 months of challenge and toil for every team on a road full of potholes, ambushes, injuries, illness, loss of form, suspensions, goals change games and unexpected individual mistakes that turn games round suddenly like WBA v QPR last night, and of course errors of judgement and decisions by referees and linos.
Stir this together and we have a Cocktail of pure Theatre, heartache, joy, disappointment and celebration.
There will be winners and losers and also rans.
There will be wonderful victories and glorious defeat.
There will be games like Blackpool and Reading and games like Stoke and Millwall.
So the first 46 matches are the most important, and let's face it there will be 23 other teams after our scalp, but also everyone of those teams will have there own problems and we have to maximise theres and at the same time minimise our own.
We are in a good place, let us embrace it and build on it and keep it ticking over.
Consistency is the key and we have the players to win games for us, and the players to save games for us.
We have to remember we are not the finished article, but then who is, it is only September so let's enjoy the spectacle. 

Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: The Rational Fan on September 25, 2021, 10:46:28 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 25, 2021, 10:13:29 AM
Sorry if this sounds harsh but I agree that the embarrassing naive nonsense sent by posters arrogantly claiming we will walk the League and break records of epic proportions was misguided.
Let us hope we never have to read that kind of drivel again.
The League Competition is not a sprint it is a marathon, and the further up the mountain you go, the more treacherous the path.
46 matches, 8/9 months of challenge and toil for every team on a road full of potholes, ambushes, injuries, illness, loss of form, suspensions, goals change games and unexpected individual mistakes that turn games round suddenly like WBA v QPR last night, and of course errors of judgement and decisions by referees and linos.
Stir this together and we have a Cocktail of pure Theatre, heartache, joy, disappointment and celebration.
There will be winners and losers and also rans.
There will be wonderful victories and glorious defeat.
There will be games like Blackpool and Reading and games like Stoke and Millwall.
So the first 46 matches are the most important, and let's face it there will be 23 other teams after our scalp, but also everyone of those teams will have there own problems and we have to maximise theres and at the same time minimise our own.
We are in a good place, let us embrace it and build on it and keep it ticking over.
Consistency is the key and we have the players to win games for us, and the players to save games for us.
We have to remember we are not the finished article, but then who is, it is only September so let's enjoy the spectacle.

I think people realise this team at its best is as good as Tigana's squad and better than Slavisa's squad, but no where near as consistent as either squad and most of the players are not as up for a marathon (as say a KMac and Stafjo). So naturally, I think this season more than any other we will be pissing the league one minute and needed to rotate half the squad a few weeks later. Honestly, I don't think the league is super strong this season and we have a lot of hot/cold players to rotate, so provided we can rotate our player well I think we should scrap automatic promotion. Managing this squad will take a lot of talent, but the skill and depth is there. Expect a rollercoaster.
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: bog on September 25, 2021, 10:48:55 AM
Quote from: fulhamross on September 25, 2021, 12:05:31 AM
Coventry will fall away

After what their fans have been through in recent times I hope they make the playoffs.   :54:


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Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: Twig on September 25, 2021, 11:15:21 AM
Some of the posts on here have been foolish naivety at best or dumb arrogance at worst. Either way we've had an early season wake up call. Yes I expect us to be promoted, quite possibly in the top two. But will we romp it? No way. It'll be a long tough season, so let's get behind our lads and cut down on all the blame game nonsense because we will need every member of our squad in the coming months!
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: Skatzoffc on September 25, 2021, 11:19:21 AM
We have a good squad with depth.
Imo we will take control over the winter months and the other teams with less depth will fade away in the 2nd half of the season.

We should be comfortable top 2 this season.

Coyw!
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: Somerset Fulham on September 25, 2021, 11:45:22 AM
Coventry appear to have a very good manager in Robins so I wouldn't rule them out completely but they aren't competition for the top two spots.

We'll be there or there abouts and if we aren't then Silva has failed. It's as simple as that really.
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: Ara's bacon crisps on September 25, 2021, 12:09:06 PM
It's very early days to be predicting how the season will go. Just for reference, in mid December 2017 we lost 1-0 to a woeful Sunderland side, dropped to 16th I believe and then look what happened after that.

We may have started this season like an express train, and then had a couple of bumps, but the manager is only 8 league games in and surely still working out what is his best side from our enormous squad. Mawson returning will only make us stronger. Carvalho returning will only make us stronger. Hiding Cav's boots will only make us stronger - sorry, couldn't resist it...

There's a long way to go. Have patience and, as Micky would have said, keep the faith. COYW!
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: MartyFFC on September 25, 2021, 12:50:02 PM
As an aside, I'd like to see Coventry go up; they've gone right down the leagues and were homeless for years. For anyone who grew up in the 80's and 90's they were a staple in the top flight
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: cookieg on September 25, 2021, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: legana on September 25, 2021, 08:51:18 AM
I don't like all the silly claims that we'll 'walk the league with record points', etc. The Championship is a tough league where the games come thick and fast and the refereeing isn't great. However, I think we will go up automatically as we have strength in depth that other teams don't and they will suffer more when key players are injured and trying to fit in two games a week during the winter...

There is squad depth but when Ream and Robinson are played having just flown back from America you have to wonder what Silva was thinking and it probably cost us that game.
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: NJFulham on September 25, 2021, 02:39:19 PM
Quote from: cookieg on September 25, 2021, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: legana on September 25, 2021, 08:51:18 AM
I don't like all the silly claims that we'll 'walk the league with record points', etc. The Championship is a tough league where the games come thick and fast and the refereeing isn't great. However, I think we will go up automatically as we have strength in depth that other teams don't and they will suffer more when key players are injured and trying to fit in two games a week during the winter...

There is squad depth but when Ream and Robinson are played having just flown back from America you have to wonder what Silva was thinking and it probably cost us that game.
Ream and Robinson didn't do anything to lose their place after 13 points of 15 possible.

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Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: rusty shackleford on September 25, 2021, 03:49:17 PM
Where are the Parker bashers hiding these days
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on September 25, 2021, 03:52:48 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on September 25, 2021, 03:49:17 PM
Where are the Parker bashers hiding these days
He's doing wonders early doors with Bournemouth, can't lie, and no one wants to be seen as being wrong
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: WindyCity on September 25, 2021, 03:54:27 PM
Sadly, FFC finding themselves in the rear view mirror of quite a handful of teams.  Need a second half effort v Bristol to turn things around it seems.  COYW!
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: WindyCity on September 25, 2021, 04:40:43 PM
Oh brother!  Can't hold on to the late one goal lead.  Now tied with 10 mins to go.  Disappointing to say the least......
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: WindyCity on September 26, 2021, 04:24:57 PM
And you can add Stoke to the thread title as they are even with us on points.   Looks to be a tough campaign, not the cakewalk being touted after the first five games........

COYW!
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: filham on September 26, 2021, 06:21:19 PM
Eight games gone and we haven't yet been outplayed but the Achilles Heels of missing goalscoring chances has shown itself more than once, if allowed to continue this weakness could cost us promotion, it is a problem that needs sorting before the season continues.
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on September 27, 2021, 01:25:17 AM
Nobody is going to walk this League it is naive to make such a statement.
As long as we can find consistency and there will be many key matches between various front runners.
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: fulhamfever on September 30, 2021, 09:11:17 AM
And on Game Day 9 Parker's team couldn't put a goal past a team with the worst defensive record. And Coventry had 5 put past them by a town famous for wearing HATS
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: AJW48361 on September 30, 2021, 09:22:49 AM
I think our Midfield is paramount to how we fare this season we've  got to get the blend right On a every match basis hopefully we have the personnel to achieve this. I wonder if the left side balance Matt Grimes would've given us more flexibility? Would be nice to see H have a decent injury free spell.
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: JoelH5 on September 30, 2021, 09:37:15 AM
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on September 24, 2021, 09:55:24 PM
They seem to have it figured out. They won't slip up to the likes of Blackpool it seems. Here's to hoping we figure ourselves out this weekend. Come on Marco and Lads!!

Bournemouth literally slipped up last night
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: Lighthouse on September 30, 2021, 09:54:44 AM
The Coventry result last night puts pay to the idea that teams in this league, this year, are in any way going to be consistent. Injury problems, tiredness, bad refereeing, etc etc make predictions a lottery. We should stop damning every poor result and performance and over praising every good performance. Last night Fulham had an iffy second half because of injury and formation changes. But won. We have played better and lost this season.

Games remain a lottery and while we can boast a good squad but with the injury problems mounting up. Frankly we can make no conclusions but just be pleased we are still up near the top of the most unpredictable league in the World. 
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: SuffolkWhite on September 30, 2021, 10:22:38 AM
I love the Championship and its unpredictableness,  consistency as said above is key but that is the case for every season. One game at a time!
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: Motspur Park on September 30, 2021, 11:10:08 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 30, 2021, 09:54:44 AM
The Coventry result last night puts pay to the idea that teams in this league, this year, are in any way going to be consistent. Injury problems, tiredness, bad refereeing, etc etc make predictions a lottery. We should stop damning every poor result and performance and over praising every good performance. Last night Fulham had an iffy second half because of injury and formation changes. But won. We have played better and lost this season.

Games remain a lottery and while we can boast a good squad but with the injury problems mounting up. Frankly we can make no conclusions but just be pleased we are still up near the top of the most unpredictable league in the World.

This is pretty much my view. The poem 'If' by Rudyard Kipling is particularly appropriate to both our fans premature perspective after the start of the season and a more measured view of how to act under the circumstances.
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: fulhamfever on March 17, 2022, 02:43:03 PM
I like to revisit topics from beginning of the season it's so refreshing to read. How some people are so right and how some people get it so wrong.
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on March 17, 2022, 03:42:42 PM
Quote from: fulhamfever on March 17, 2022, 02:43:03 PM
I like to revisit topics from beginning of the season it's so refreshing to read. How some people are so right and how some people get it so wrong.

As the OP, I actually genuinely appreciate this - and I LOVE being wrong here! How fickle was I?
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: fulhamfever on March 17, 2022, 03:45:46 PM
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on March 17, 2022, 03:42:42 PM
Quote from: fulhamfever on March 17, 2022, 02:43:03 PM
I like to revisit topics from beginning of the season it's so refreshing to read. How some people are so right and how some people get it so wrong.

As the OP, I actually genuinely appreciate this - and I LOVE being wrong here! How fickle was I?

Admit it's refreshing when we look back at posts, some people said nobody is cake walking this league :-)
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: MartyFFC on March 18, 2022, 10:43:30 AM
Coventry and WBA have it figured out 😂
Title: Re: WBA, Bournemouth, and Coventry
Post by: Twig on March 18, 2022, 03:56:42 PM
Quote from: Twig on September 25, 2021, 11:15:21 AM
Some of the posts on here have been foolish naivety at best or dumb arrogance at worst. Either way we've had an early season wake up call. Yes I expect us to be promoted, quite possibly in the top two. But will we romp it? No way. It'll be a long tough season, so let's get behind our lads and cut down on all the blame game nonsense because we will need every member of our squad in the coming months!

Delighted that (recent wobble aside) we seem to be romping it rather more than I expected!