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Title: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on September 25, 2021, 05:16:14 PM
Four points adrift from top spot and a failure to get the 2nd goal and see out the game.

There will be several views on why we have struggled to win recently but simply put, we are just not ruthless enough!

Early days but we need to start grinding out results and fast.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: FFC1987 on September 25, 2021, 05:18:39 PM
This team is walking into the playoffs. Happily place a bet with anyone about it. So frustrating.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on September 25, 2021, 05:36:17 PM
We don't want them walking into the play offs, we want them running into the automatic places.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: LittleErn on September 25, 2021, 05:40:39 PM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on September 25, 2021, 05:16:14 PM
Four points adrift from top spot and a failure to get the 2nd goal and see out the game.

There will be several views on why we have struggled to win recently but simply put, we are just not ruthless enough!

Early days but we need to start grinding out results and fast.

"ruthless" makes it sound like it is an attitude problem. It isn't; it's a lack of control.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Nero on September 25, 2021, 05:46:01 PM
Its the Championship probably the most god awful league to get out of, any team can beat any team from one day to the next, god awful refs that will give a decision to one team and not the other for the exact same thing. We aren't finishing at the moment be we arent being outplayed or outfought, still reckon we will top 2
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Sgt Fulham on September 25, 2021, 05:50:47 PM
Sheffield United coming in like a train. If we keep playing like this, I can't see top 2.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: SP on September 25, 2021, 06:13:46 PM
Watching the Bournemouth highlights,their defence looks pretty shakey to me, can't believe Luton missed some of those chances. Only 9700 odd crowd there today, how do they survive on that?
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Skatzoffc on September 25, 2021, 06:28:44 PM
Top two for me too.

Bristol City worked their socks off against us today to get a draw.
Dead on their feet at the end. Fair play to them. We will be up against this from  all teams tbh. That is championship football.

But these teams will be wrecked by 2nd half of the season with injuries etc.
Mitro could/should have had 4. Ref useless.
A long way to go but no need to panic in my view

Kebano over Cav every week for me tho.
And Rodak over Gazza Who should have cleared.

Coyw!
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on September 25, 2021, 06:40:23 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on September 25, 2021, 06:28:44 PM
Top two for me too.

Bristol City worked their socks off against us today to get a draw.
Dead on their feet at the end. Fair play to them. We will be up against this from  all teams tbh. That is championship football.

But these teams will be wrecked by 2nd half of the season with injuries etc.
Mitro could/should have had 4. Ref useless.
A long way to go but no need to panic in my view

Kebano over Cav every week for me tho.
And Rodak over Gazza Who should have cleared.

Coyw!

Who makes top two with this rational? WBA and Bournemouth still unbeaten and not ever looking like losing (of course it's still early)
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: davew on September 25, 2021, 07:28:02 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 25, 2021, 05:36:17 PM
We don't want them walking into the play offs, we want them running into the automatic places.
LOL!!
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Twig on September 25, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Once again we have people saying we'll walk promotion, easily make top two etc. When will we get it into our heads that it won't be as easy as that and that there are other teams and other managers who will give us a serious run for our money?
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on September 25, 2021, 09:15:27 PM
Hi
Quote from: Twig on September 25, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Once again we have people saying we'll walk promotion, easily make top two etc. When will we get it into our heads that it won't be as easy as that and that there are other teams and other managers who will give us a serious run for our money?

Some people will never learn, every team will give us a run for our money. That is what they do especially in the Championship.
It was unfortunate to lose Tete with a long term injury, if we lose any other Key players in key positions to long term injuries then we will have to step up a gear or two because the last few League games overall have shown this season will be no picnic.
Especially with our current defence that looks weak in the air and vulnerable to crosses.
Plenty of room for improvement, plenty of players for the manager to choose from, and plenty of time to get our act together and try and get an unbeaten run together, because consistency is key
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: H4usuallysitting on September 25, 2021, 09:24:46 PM
Bugger the current league standings...wait until after Christmas
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: filham on September 25, 2021, 09:50:11 PM
Not what we expected at this stage, 4 points behind Bournmouth, out of the top two, struggling to score goals and hard to see how the manager is going to correct that.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: jayffc on September 25, 2021, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: filham on September 25, 2021, 09:50:11 PM
Not what we expected at this stage, 4 points behind Bournmouth, out of the top two, struggling to score goals and hard to see how the manager is going to correct that.

We're still the league top scorers, hardly struggling but yes today we should have had 3 or 4 at least.
Just goes like that sometimes

Well be fine in my opinion
Everyone panicking so soon are off the mark, we were the better team today and there's a long way to go.

Interested to see how we get on against the likes of Bournemouth

Gazza tbf to him made a couple very good saves today and unfortunate one of them landed with their attacker who finished pretty impressively.

Wouldn't be mad at Rodak back in though
Mawson for Ream? Would he drop the captain? Tricky one

I think we are hugely missing Tete for a start, vital part of our defence, Fab too has been huge this season and can't wait to have him back.

Well be fine, I fully expect well be fighting for that top 2 come the end of the season
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on September 25, 2021, 10:13:46 PM
As has already been highlighted, league standings whether your top or not is not an issue in September.
Plenty for the manager to chew over, but he needs to consider other options, a little tweak here and there to keep everyone on their toes. Are there any players in too much of a comfort zone for their own good, or is it a case of patience is a virtue.
I have often said a week in football is a long time.
A month in football is a very long time.
There are three months to Christmas, that is probably a good time just after the new year to have a review of where we are, how we are playing and which players are fulfilling their roles with aplomb.
Will we have a satisfying smile on our faces or will the expression be closer to a frown.



Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: MartyFFC on September 25, 2021, 10:15:34 PM
111 points left on the table. Relax people
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: FFC1987 on September 26, 2021, 01:23:05 AM
111 points. Great. The rate we're going won't be enough for top 2 so great....

We ain't getting relegated. That would be an overreaction. We ain't getting automatic. Right now, that's the reality. We're struggling against mediocre sides and people are saying 'calm down!!!'. Bit of perspective. Unless things change drastically, we'll be a 3-6th team. And fair enough. But for me, it's just a continuation of the same dross we offer as a club. Norwich as an example, they don't achieve much when in the prem (nor do we) but at least as a self professed 'yo-yo club' at least Norwich get that sweet comfortable feeling of success in the championship consistently.

Yeh, we might go to the playoffs and win but that to me doesn't show progression or success. That just shows the mediocre nature of our promotion with the rushed inevitable decline of our relegation.

This isn't a slight of the management. But if the clubs management as a whole. It just feels like a club coasting and I'm not seeing progression. Sorry to dampen peoples parade and false sense of optimists because we shoot 15 times more a game but manage a 1/3'd on target but still. Looking forward to having any optimism I have for this team getting top 2 throughly bent over by January because we rely on the same old lucklustre lightweights finishing 1 in every 6 chances. 

Like last year, save this and copy me when I'm wrong but when I was right last year about relegation, come back to me and have a chat. Have a feeling same posters will react disparaging and not come back when inevitably they're wrong. Unlike when I am and I come back to joke and own it. Evidence. Ask a certain poster I bet $50 with about where we'd finish and if I asked for that debt.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: RaySmith on September 26, 2021, 01:40:03 AM
The important thing is that we are creating good chances, which we could and should be putting away. If we weren't creating them it would be  more cause for concern.

There seems to be a bit of a drop in confidence  from the likes of Wilson and even Mitro, who'd both seemed so confident in putting the ball in the net just a few weeks ago, but at least they're still getting in on goal, with the kind of chance where you're jut waiting for the net to ripple, rather than speculative long range efforts, and putting the chances away, and winning games, will restore confidence.

It's still early days yet, and I'm sure a lot will happen between now and the end of season.

One thought about the ref. When he booked Chalobah for what seemed a very good , well timed, sliding tackle,  early in the game, I thought 'this ref has never played the game, and doesn't have a clue what it's like to play.'
Soon after that he failed to book a  Bristol player for a similar challenge!
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Thames Bank 1 on September 26, 2021, 02:09:22 AM
Firstly agree with netto, no team has a right to win, there is a long way to go
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Statto on September 26, 2021, 02:36:23 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on September 26, 2021, 01:23:05 AM
111 points. Great. The rate we're going won't be enough for top 2 so great....

Debatable. Still averaging 1.9 points per game which would be enough for top 2 most seasons. So there's a good chance that even if we just keep doing what we've done so far, we go up automatically.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on September 26, 2021, 07:17:19 AM
I do not know why this is being debated in September, too much doom on one side, and too much cocky ness on the otherside. Somewhere in between is the best stance until at least the new year.
Still I suppose it keeps everybody off Scott Parkers back.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: FFC1987 on September 26, 2021, 03:35:41 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 26, 2021, 02:36:23 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on September 26, 2021, 01:23:05 AM
111 points. Great. The rate we're going won't be enough for top 2 so great....

Debatable. Still averaging 1.9 points per game which would be enough for top 2 most seasons. So there's a good chance that even if we just keep doing what we've done so far, we go up automatically.

It's debatable for sure. But the way we're heading and how others are picking up points in harder fixtures, I'll not be betting on the lucrative top 2 finish. We're currently on behind Coventry after some pretty tame fixtures with much harder to come. I'm not very optimistic about our chances right now but we'll see I guess.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Statto on September 26, 2021, 03:51:37 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on September 26, 2021, 03:35:41 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 26, 2021, 02:36:23 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on September 26, 2021, 01:23:05 AM
111 points. Great. The rate we're going won't be enough for top 2 so great....

Debatable. Still averaging 1.9 points per game which would be enough for top 2 most seasons. So there's a good chance that even if we just keep doing what we've done so far, we go up automatically.

It's debatable for sure. But the way we're heading and how others are picking up points in harder fixtures, I'll not be betting on the lucrative top 2 finish. We're currently on behind Coventry after some pretty tame fixtures with much harder to come. I'm not very optimistic about our chances right now but we'll see I guess.

Yeah but with all due respect mate you're never optimistic about anything on here
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: FFC1987 on September 26, 2021, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 26, 2021, 03:51:37 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on September 26, 2021, 03:35:41 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 26, 2021, 02:36:23 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on September 26, 2021, 01:23:05 AM
111 points. Great. The rate we're going won't be enough for top 2 so great....

Debatable. Still averaging 1.9 points per game which would be enough for top 2 most seasons. So there's a good chance that even if we just keep doing what we've done so far, we go up automatically.

It's debatable for sure. But the way we're heading and how others are picking up points in harder fixtures, I'll not be betting on the lucrative top 2 finish. We're currently on behind Coventry after some pretty tame fixtures with much harder to come. I'm not very optimistic about our chances right now but we'll see I guess.

Yeah but with all due respect mate you're never optimistic about anything on here

I don't think that's entirely true. When we're winning and riding high im on here praising albeit with the caveat that I'm not sure we'll be p*sing the league. Based on your posts, I know you don't really seem too phased if we go up as you'd rather watch entertaining forward thinking football. And that's cool. But I just want to see us finish top 2 and show some progress as a club. Another playoff finishing season isn't progress or fun for me personally.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on September 27, 2021, 02:23:33 AM
Walking on cake is not advisable.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 05:35:00 AM
Quote from: Twig on September 25, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Once again we have people saying we'll walk promotion, easily make top two etc. When will we get it into our heads that it won't be as easy as that and that there are other teams and other managers who will give us a serious run for our money?

Agreed.

So much arrogance on this page in the past few weeks that the league would be a breeze.

Hopefully some humility and modesty can be restored.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: rebel on September 27, 2021, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 05:35:00 AM
Quote from: Twig on September 25, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Once again we have people saying we'll walk promotion, easily make top two etc. When will we get it into our heads that it won't be as easy as that and that there are other teams and other managers who will give us a serious run for our money?

Agreed.

So much arrogance on this page in the past few weeks that the league would be a breeze.

Hopefully some humility and modesty can be restored.

The league is a 'breeze' but not if you build momentum (win four in a row), then' shoot yourself in the foot', week in week out.
You can analyses the points dropped this season, we've defeated ourselves, whether it's team selection, not taking opportunities,
not defending well etc. 
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 09:18:02 AM
Quote from: rebel on September 27, 2021, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 05:35:00 AM
Quote from: Twig on September 25, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Once again we have people saying we'll walk promotion, easily make top two etc. When will we get it into our heads that it won't be as easy as that and that there are other teams and other managers who will give us a serious run for our money?

Agreed.

So much arrogance on this page in the past few weeks that the league would be a breeze.

Hopefully some humility and modesty can be restored.

The league is a 'breeze' but not if you build momentum (win four in a row), then' shoot yourself in the foot', week in week out.
You can analyses the points dropped this season, we've defeated ourselves, whether it's team selection, not taking opportunities,
not defending well etc. 

Problem is if we keep "shooting ourselves in the foot" then the gap to the auto promotion spots will become insurmountable
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: toshes mate on September 27, 2021, 09:37:16 AM
The only real 'fails' I see from what has happened thus far this season are the dropped points at home and we have recent history about failing miserably at the Cottage.  But we are still on track for an impressve season if we improve our control of what we can control and let the results come along as a consequence of doing so as they most surely will.   I am sure Marco Silva also has high expectations from this squad but results are random and the secret is to not let the last game outcome influence the next game outcome - win, lose or draw.   It is striaght out of the Emma Raducanu playbook.   Play for every point on its own merits. 
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Baszab on September 27, 2021, 11:00:44 AM
FFC & WBA still 6/4 on favourites for promotion
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on September 27, 2021, 11:18:11 AM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 09:18:02 AM
Quote from: rebel on September 27, 2021, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 05:35:00 AM
Quote from: Twig on September 25, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Once again we have people saying we'll walk promotion, easily make top two etc. When will we get it into our heads that it won't be as easy as that and that there are other teams and other managers who will give us a serious run for our money?

Agreed.

So much arrogance on this page in the past few weeks that the league would be a breeze.

Hopefully some humility and modesty can be restored.

The league is a 'breeze' but not if you build momentum (win four in a row), then' shoot yourself in the foot', week in week out.
You can analyses the points dropped this season, we've defeated ourselves, whether it's team selection, not taking opportunities,
not defending well etc. 

Problem is if we keep "shooting ourselves in the foot" then the gap to the auto promotion spots will become insurmountable

No wonder we are all walking with a limp, it's that dam foot we keep shooting, and I thought I had a stone in my shoe.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Lordedmundo on September 27, 2021, 11:57:21 AM
We have the best squad and first 11 in the division.  The problem is that we are not playing to the best of our potential - specifically with regard to missing chances. 

I think one issue is that some of the games have been too easy - in terms of us outplaying the opposition from the start in the first 5 games. It has meant that complacency has set in. Most notably apparent against Blackpool where we just thought we could turn up to win and to a lesser extent against Reading. The missing of chances has been a big factor and really we shouldn't be missing Carvalho as much as we have been.

A bit too much negativity on the board to be honest. It's not as if the teams above us have been playing brilliantly and are uncatchable. In the case of Bournemouth, they have been winning games (predominately against teams in the lower reaches of the table) by a single goal. Aganst Luton they only had 6 shots attempts in the entire match. 
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 12:23:26 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 27, 2021, 11:18:11 AM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 09:18:02 AM
Quote from: rebel on September 27, 2021, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 05:35:00 AM
Quote from: Twig on September 25, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Once again we have people saying we'll walk promotion, easily make top two etc. When will we get it into our heads that it won't be as easy as that and that there are other teams and other managers who will give us a serious run for our money?

Agreed.

So much arrogance on this page in the past few weeks that the league would be a breeze.

Hopefully some humility and modesty can be restored.

The league is a 'breeze' but not if you build momentum (win four in a row), then' shoot yourself in the foot', week in week out.
You can analyses the points dropped this season, we've defeated ourselves, whether it's team selection, not taking opportunities,
not defending well etc. 

Problem is if we keep "shooting ourselves in the foot" then the gap to the auto promotion spots will become insurmountable

No wonder we are all walking with a limp, it's that dam foot we keep shooting, and I thought I had a stone in my shoe.

:005: :005: 082.gif we should shoot the other foot to even up the pain
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: rebel on September 27, 2021, 02:05:10 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 27, 2021, 11:18:11 AM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 09:18:02 AM
Quote from: rebel on September 27, 2021, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 05:35:00 AM
Quote from: Twig on September 25, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Once again we have people saying we'll walk promotion, easily make top two etc. When will we get it into our heads that it won't be as easy as that and that there are other teams and other managers who will give us a serious run for our money?

Agreed.

So much arrogance on this page in the past few weeks that the league would be a breeze.

Hopefully some humility and modesty can be restored.

The league is a 'breeze' but not if you build momentum (win four in a row), then' shoot yourself in the foot', week in week out.
You can analyses the points dropped this season, we've defeated ourselves, whether it's team selection, not taking opportunities,
not defending well etc. 

Problem is if we keep "shooting ourselves in the foot" then the gap to the auto promotion spots will become insurmountable

No wonder we are all walking with a limp, it's that dam foot we keep shooting, and I thought I had a stone in my shoe.

Listen, only a 'pebble' would worry a 10 ton dinosaur.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: rebel on September 27, 2021, 02:06:31 PM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 12:23:26 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 27, 2021, 11:18:11 AM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 09:18:02 AM
Quote from: rebel on September 27, 2021, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 05:35:00 AM
Quote from: Twig on September 25, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Once again we have people saying we'll walk promotion, easily make top two etc. When will we get it into our heads that it won't be as easy as that and that there are other teams and other managers who will give us a serious run for our money?

Agreed.

So much arrogance on this page in the past few weeks that the league would be a breeze.

Hopefully some humility and modesty can be restored.

The league is a 'breeze' but not if you build momentum (win four in a row), then' shoot yourself in the foot', week in week out.
You can analyses the points dropped this season, we've defeated ourselves, whether it's team selection, not taking opportunities,
not defending well etc. 

Problem is if we keep "shooting ourselves in the foot" then the gap to the auto promotion spots will become insurmountable

No wonder we are all walking with a limp, it's that dam foot we keep shooting, and I thought I had a stone in my shoe.

:005: :005: 082.gif we should shoot the other foot to even up the pain

Don't encourage him.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Denver Fulham on September 27, 2021, 02:10:27 PM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 09:18:02 AM
Quote from: rebel on September 27, 2021, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 05:35:00 AM
Quote from: Twig on September 25, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Once again we have people saying we'll walk promotion, easily make top two etc. When will we get it into our heads that it won't be as easy as that and that there are other teams and other managers who will give us a serious run for our money?

Agreed.

So much arrogance on this page in the past few weeks that the league would be a breeze.

Hopefully some humility and modesty can be restored.

The league is a 'breeze' but not if you build momentum (win four in a row), then' shoot yourself in the foot', week in week out.
You can analyses the points dropped this season, we've defeated ourselves, whether it's team selection, not taking opportunities,
not defending well etc. 

Problem is if we keep "shooting ourselves in the foot" then the gap to the auto promotion spots will become insurmountable

Solution: Our players should wear cleats decorated with the back of the net on them. Then when they try to shoot themselves in the feet, they'll miss.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: LittleErn on September 27, 2021, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on September 27, 2021, 02:10:27 PM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 09:18:02 AM
Quote from: rebel on September 27, 2021, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on September 27, 2021, 05:35:00 AM
Quote from: Twig on September 25, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Once again we have people saying we'll walk promotion, easily make top two etc. When will we get it into our heads that it won't be as easy as that and that there are other teams and other managers who will give us a serious run for our money?

Agreed.

So much arrogance on this page in the past few weeks that the league would be a breeze.

Hopefully some humility and modesty can be restored.

The league is a 'breeze' but not if you build momentum (win four in a row), then' shoot yourself in the foot', week in week out.
You can analyses the points dropped this season, we've defeated ourselves, whether it's team selection, not taking opportunities,
not defending well etc. 

Problem is if we keep "shooting ourselves in the foot" then the gap to the auto promotion spots will become insurmountable

Solution: Our players should wear cleats decorated with the back of the net on them. Then when they try to shoot themselves in the feet, they'll miss.

😂

Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: WindyCity on September 27, 2021, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on September 25, 2021, 06:28:44 PM
But these teams will be wrecked by 2nd half of the season with injuries etc.

HUH?  FFC is wrecked by injuries NOW!  What happens 2nd half???

""Mitro could/should have had 4.""

Sorry, woulda, coulda, shouldas simply don't count on the scoreboard. 
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: WindyCity on September 27, 2021, 04:57:54 PM
Quote from: jayffc on September 25, 2021, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: filham on September 25, 2021, 09:50:11 PM
Not what we expected at this stage, 4 points behind Bournmouth, out of the top two, struggling to score goals and hard to see how the manager is going to correct that.
We're still the league top scorers, hardly struggling....Well be fine in my opinion....Everyone panicking so soon are off the mark, we were the better team today and there's a long way to go....Well be fine, I fully expect well be fighting for that top 2 come the end of the season

I just can't buy much of this.  Being league top scorers was accumulated over first 5 games, not reflective at all over the recent handful of games.  FFC is struggling right now.  Being the 'better team' means a win, not a draw or loss.  I'm not panicking right now, still early days, but at this moment in time FFC does not look like a top 2 side.  The results/table explain that clearly, as does recent form.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: WindyCity on September 28, 2021, 04:33:48 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 27, 2021, 02:23:33 AM
Walking on cake is not advisable.

Nor on thin ice.....
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Jim© on September 29, 2021, 11:02:20 AM
Quote from: WindyCity on September 27, 2021, 04:57:54 PM
Quote from: jayffc on September 25, 2021, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: filham on September 25, 2021, 09:50:11 PM
Not what we expected at this stage, 4 points behind Bournmouth, out of the top two, struggling to score goals and hard to see how the manager is going to correct that.
We're still the league top scorers, hardly struggling....Well be fine in my opinion....Everyone panicking so soon are off the mark, we were the better team today and there's a long way to go....Well be fine, I fully expect well be fighting for that top 2 come the end of the season

I just can't buy much of this.  Being league top scorers was accumulated over first 5 games, not reflective at all over the recent handful of games.  FFC is struggling right now.  Being the 'better team' means a win, not a draw or loss.  I'm not panicking right now, still early days, but at this moment in time FFC does not look like a top 2 side.  The results/table explain that clearly, as does recent form.

Not sure if you spoke to any City fans after the game the other day, any Reading fans the week before or indeed any Leeds fans? They all thought we looked like a quality side, without exception. Their only downside was that we don't take our chances.
Across the course of a season I'd prefer to be creating chances and missing them, rather than not creating chances and nicking the odd one. As Silva said, created the chances and the goals will come.

Some Fulham fans on here are way more pessimistic than opposition fans, which I find odd.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on September 29, 2021, 12:03:30 PM
Quote from: Jim© on September 29, 2021, 11:02:20 AM
Quote from: WindyCity on September 27, 2021, 04:57:54 PM
Quote from: jayffc on September 25, 2021, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: filham on September 25, 2021, 09:50:11 PM
Not what we expected at this stage, 4 points behind Bournmouth, out of the top two, struggling to score goals and hard to see how the manager is going to correct that.
We're still the league top scorers, hardly struggling....Well be fine in my opinion....Everyone panicking so soon are off the mark, we were the better team today and there's a long way to go....Well be fine, I fully expect well be fighting for that top 2 come the end of the season

I just can't buy much of this.  Being league top scorers was accumulated over first 5 games, not reflective at all over the recent handful of games.  FFC is struggling right now.  Being the 'better team' means a win, not a draw or loss.  I'm not panicking right now, still early days, but at this moment in time FFC does not look like a top 2 side.  The results/table explain that clearly, as does recent form.

Not sure if you spoke to any City fans after the game the other day, any Reading fans the week before or indeed any Leeds fans? They all thought we looked like a quality side, without exception. Their only downside was that we don't take our chances.
Across the course of a season I'd prefer to be creating chances and missing them, rather than not creating chances and nicking the odd one. As Silva said, created the chances and the goals will come.

Some Fulham fans on here are way more pessimistic than opposition fans, which I find odd.


By the Beard of Zuis.
That is because some fans are forgetting the League is a marathon.
On the one hand after 4 games the arrogant triumphantists were cockily and embarrassingly predicting a walk on the park for the rest of the season. How foolish do they look now, and apparently a list of their names have been published to publicly humiliate them at a later date.
Then we have the Doom and Gloom merchants who are already writing us off in September because teams are not rolling over and allowing Fulham to tickle their belly.
Their names will also be published and publicly humiliated, then we can find out if some of them are the very same Herbert's.
They just don't really understand the error of their ways.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: WindyCity on September 29, 2021, 04:23:16 PM
Quote from: Jim© on September 29, 2021, 11:02:20 AM
Quote from: WindyCity on September 27, 2021, 04:57:54 PM
Quote from: jayffc on September 25, 2021, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: filham on September 25, 2021, 09:50:11 PM
Not what we expected at this stage, 4 points behind Bournmouth, out of the top two, struggling to score goals and hard to see how the manager is going to correct that.
We're still the league top scorers, hardly struggling....Well be fine in my opinion....Everyone panicking so soon are off the mark, we were the better team today and there's a long way to go....Well be fine, I fully expect well be fighting for that top 2 come the end of the season
I just can't buy much of this.  Being league top scorers was accumulated over first 5 games, not reflective at all over the recent handful of games.  FFC is struggling right now.  Being the 'better team' means a win, not a draw or loss.  I'm not panicking right now, still early days, but at this moment in time FFC does not look like a top 2 side.  The results/table explain that clearly, as does recent form.
Not sure if you spoke to any City fans after the game the other day, any Reading fans the week before or indeed any Leeds fans? They all thought we looked like a quality side, without exception. Their only downside was that we don't take our chances.
Across the course of a season I'd prefer to be creating chances and missing them, rather than not creating chances and nicking the odd one. As Silva said, created the chances and the goals will come.
Some Fulham fans on here are way more pessimistic than opposition fans, which I find odd.

Nope, haven't talked to any other team fans, but so what?  That doesn't really matter in this discussion.  Sure, it's nice to see chances created, BUT, 'finishing' is still 'part of the game', no?  Results are all that matters in professional sport.  Being the 'quality' side means very little when the result is a loss or draw.  Not being pessimistic at all, just looking at the whole picture and reality.  I still like our chances for promotion this season, hope it happens, but FFC needs to become much more clinical and finish their opportunities.
Title: Re: Not a cake walk after all!
Post by: WindyCity on September 29, 2021, 04:29:22 PM
Haha, nice post woolly.   I did not purchase a ticket on the Happy Talk Train after the first five games.  Was happy about the early success, but wasn't making any wild proclamations as we saw here.  Right now, I think it's fair to point out FFC shortcomings, but it's still early days, and the team has time to get sorted.  Hopeful yes, because this team is at least creating chances.  Now the challenge is to make the most of those opportunities created. 

COYW!!!